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I would hold off on your auction until you get this sorted.
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The dems are just desperate to turn this back into more Trump/Russia narrative so they can distract from the crater that will be the democrat party after this info comes out to the general public.
What info? You've already said there's tons of evidence. But...of what? I'm not trying to attack or troll you. The Hunter Biden $50k/month thing def looks like there's prob something shady going on there...but, what is it? No, you are just trying really hard to confirm your bias. See the other related thread here.Are there any theories on what specifically Joe Biden was so worried about the Ukranian government finding out about his son? Or even general? Like, was it just about making money? Or political? Burisma Holdings seems pretty obviously corrupt. Hunter Biden's level of involvement is unknown, but what is evident is he was hired in compensation for his father pressuring the Ukrainian government to pull the lead investigator going after Burisma Holdings, who coincidentally planned to also investigate his son. I would say all three apply to some degree. Please read the other thread, I would rather not repeat myself. |
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Nice strawman. As a communist, i don't believe in having a state at all.
Cool story bro. Unfortunately an oppressive centralized totalitarian state is required to roll out Communism. There is no way around it, otherwise it would just be called charity. This is where you try to tell me Communism has never existed, and I tell you how it just so happens to kill millions every time it is tried. |
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The dems are just desperate to turn this back into more Trump/Russia narrative so they can distract from the crater that will be the democrat party after this info comes out to the general public.
What info? You've already said there's tons of evidence. But...of what? I'm not trying to attack or troll you. The Hunter Biden $50k/month thing def looks like there's prob something shady going on there...but, what is it? No, you are just trying really hard to confirm your bias. See the other related thread here. |
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I really don't trust polls whatsoever, I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well, Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached. They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.
What is your method of determining the opinion of those 200+ Million Americans? There are definitely biased polls out there, but Quinnipiac is one of the most respected. Even if your poll is legitimate, all it shows is how completely polarized the nation is with the majority of dems supporting impeachment, and the majority of reps rejecting it. |
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Interesting opinion. To me it sounds a lot like you are describing the US government. In any case, buying stolen goods is not a good idea but buying is never stealing.
I don't really care about your relativist, justice warrior bullshit. It is just that, bullshit. Stick with the law.
By your logic, having slaves was not stealing as long as you bought the slaves and slavery was not yet outlawed. Your moral compass is broken. As long as the fruits of peoples labor is taken by the state for "redistribution" though, that is not slavery right? After all the only way to create the Communist utopia of equality is to make everyone equally enslaved and impoverished. You aren't one to talk about a broken moral compass Captain Postmodern. |
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I really am trying to approach this whole Ukraine thing as objectively as possible. 9 days ago I didn't know much about what Ukraine has been going through for the past 10 years. Then I fell off a latter and found myself with a lot more time to read than I'm used to.
I think Ukraine is a great example of today's Democracy vs Authoritarian fight.
America and our Allies are trying to liberate Ukraine and protect them from Russia taking over. You seem to be sympathizing more with Russia.
As expected, "but muh Russian collusion!" The dems are just desperate to turn this back into more Trump/Russia narrative so they can distract from the crater that will be the democrat party after this info comes out to the general public. Unlike you, I have been watching this situation develop as it happened over the past 10 years and longer. You stroll in at the last minute, regurgitate some owned corporate media talking points, and pretend you are informed. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you don't know shit. |
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Here is my signed MSG just for you  It should say... G'day TECSHARE! This is DobZombie (The BitcoinNerd) Verifying that it's me MSG Signed as at 2019-10-02G56kix4FH3/bCXn9ViMULf3lO/Whx91aNWJbjHZVLHK5ULqY/adyBNjhpV9dku/vi5wG/zZj0VD8IEnnxGurXFw= I was unable to verify this message. Can some one else give it a try please to confirm if it is a mistake on my end or perhaps a copy paste error? |
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Until there is one Dyson Sphere and a full galaxy for each human in the universe, I don't believe we need to worry about resources per person
I think you have it backwards. I believe in specialization. Not everyone should be a breadmaker. That would be a boring society. We need artists and historians and everything else. For this reason, you and I have completely different ideas about what is stealing and what is not. This means end up I wondering why you think stealing is ok and you end up wondering why I think stealing is ok when no one actually think taking something that rightfully belongs to someone else is ok. I'm just trying to address the topic. You are a Communist. Communism inherently supports government sponsored theft. They not only steal your property, but your mind, your spirit, and your pride. I don't really care what twisted Postmodernist relativist logic you use to justify it, Communism is theft. |
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I would like to request a monitor for myself to make it easier for the current default trust cartel to organize to pressure even more users to exclude me any time I get on the DT more efficiently. Maybe this way they won't need to start a 3 ring circus every time I get on it again after the fact to justify their clear pattern of retaliation for criticizing them.
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I would say that it is besides the point and does not exclude other corruption. For there to be competing criminal cartels is more the norm than not. After all, his testimony is by far not the only evidence against Biden.
I'm not suggesting it would make other corruption ok. Literally just trying to figure out if you think Yanukovych was working for Russia or Ukraine. (while he was the president of Ukraine) Considering the close historical relationship between the two nations, and that Crimea contains Russia's only strategically critical warm water harbor, I wouldn't be surprised. Again though this is just an attempt at whataboutism to create false equivalency between the two factions and distract from the exposure of the corruption that is the topic at hand. Cue your what about Russia conspiracy theory here. |
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Unfortunately even flags get abused. I am not fond of the idea of basing forum usage rights to the trust system, it is too heavily abused.
True, there is no easy solution, but what about eliminating it for just Newbies and Jr. Members which are 99% of the time the people who abuse it. I would consider that a reasonable compromise. |
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Do you think it's fair to say that Yanukovych was more interested in keeping Russia happy while he was president of Ukraine?
I do. And the same probably goes for Shoken.
Probably < a pile of other evidence. Furthermore the two ideas are not exclusive. Do you think it's fair to say that Yanukovych was more interested in keeping Russia happy while he was president of Ukraine? I would say that it is besides the point and does not exclude other corruption. For there to be competing criminal cartels is more the norm than not. After all, his testimony is by far not the only evidence against Biden. |
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Honestly, that picture looks so photoshopped:  As an expert in graphics with knowledge of forensic analysis, you don't have any clue what you are talking about. Just because you see marks in that type of analysis doesn't automatically mean it is shopped, it is dependent on location in the photo. Stop fronting like an expert. Even those with casual knowledge of those systems know it doesn't work that way. |
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My intentions have primarily been to get the truth and I do believe I was clear when I said I do not condone violent behavior.
As for deflecting... I'm curious what you would call it when someone is arguing that someone is a liar, then he brings up a situation relating to throwing rocks at a scammers window 6 years ago? I'd say that's probably a good example of deflecting.. by you. Me pointing out your hypocrisy and disagreeing with your current behaviors isn't really the same thing, IMO.
I'm guessing you'd just like some sort of explicit quote from me here which you can then utilize to attack others (reminds me of QS).. and I don't want to be a part of that game.
When it comes to facts, I believe I've been objective. When it comes to baseless attacks and insults without any facts, I believe I've been impartial in judging and/or deciding to ignore those from both sides.
The reason everyone keeps bringing up Vods past behavior is because first of all he never admits any fault and denies it ever happened. There is a long standing pattern of this and the community not holding him responsible for his very extensive history of documented abusive behavior, therefore enabling him to continue without consequence. You are not at all impartial or objective, you were defending Vod with false equivalence from your very first comment. You try to give the APPEARANCE of being objective, but that is not the same thing. |
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Seems simple doesn't it? Limiting it to ranking members might be a solution, but your other metric would mean I wouldn't qualify to use self moderated threads. Because of an abusive negative rating by Vod for criticizing his behavior, by your metric I would be excluded in spite of my 8 years of trade history here.
No, one negative would not be enough. It would be like those new flags for scammers, where you need the support of multiple users. The user would have to be "red" and have received multiple negatives by DT users in order to lose the self-mod ability. Sorry for not explaining properly  Unfortunately even flags get abused. I am not fond of the idea of basing forum usage rights to the trust system, it is too heavily abused. |
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This is something that has been discussed ad nauseam in the past. We shouldn't be stripping down features of the forum when the trust system, report to moderation, and making your own threads are more than sufficient. I was around before this feature existed. To this day a similar problem sill exists, and to a lesser extent still does, of users trolling the marketplace posts for their own amusement or to target certain members and prevent them from trading legitimately, then claiming they are simply warning people of XYZ for example and cry censorship when they're asked to stop. They may also object to the specific good being offered and do their best to prevent it from being traded, leaving the seller with few options to trade legitimately.
This might not seem like a big deal to those who don't sell in the section or only do so occasionally, but it really doesn't take much to turn people off of a sale. Most buying habits are compulsive, so a little thing like one guy making up some bullshit is possible to stop the vast majority of sales. Self moderation exists in those sections for good reason.
I understand. That's why we can either limit certain user groups or, even better, keep allowing it for everyone except those that have/get negative red trust. Seems simple doesn't it? Limiting it to ranking members might be a solution, but your other metric would mean I wouldn't qualify to use self moderated threads. Because of an abusive negative rating by Vod for criticizing his behavior, by your metric I would be excluded in spite of my 8 years of trade history here. |
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Do you think it's fair to say that Yanukovych was more interested in keeping Russia happy while he was president of Ukraine?
I do. And the same probably goes for Shoken.
Probably < a pile of other evidence. Furthermore the two ideas are not exclusive. |
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"We have all the evidence that the DNC colluded with Ukraine, but the media is deaf dumb and stupid as they always are and corrupt" -Hannity Is the evidence their talking about an affidavit from Shoken? Or am I missing something here. When Biden told Ukraine they had to get rid of Shoken in order to get any money (money = weapons), it wasn't just something he decided on his own, and it wasn't even just American money. The G7 (which had just kicked Russia out for literally taking over a chunk of Ukraine) all agreed on it and most other EU countries were happy to see Shoken forced out. Shoken was not just corrupt. He was an anti Ukranian revolutionist, that openly went after the parties that were fighting for their independence from Russia. He was basically a less powerful version of the president that had just been ousted. Meanwhile, the G7 (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States) agreed that it was in their best interest to not let Russia keep fucking with Ukraine. It seems like they genuinely wanted to offer assistance, but it was pretty clear that if they did while Shoken held a powerful government position, their 'assistance' would be a waste. Bidens son probably did do something shady to get his $600k/ year job working for a company owned by a corrupt Ukranian. But Biden wasn't the one behind getting Shoken fired. He just happened to be the messenger for most of the western world. My point is - Rudy and Hannity celebrating that they got Shoken to promise something was true is just...meaningless. All they are trying to do is rile up half the country. P.S. I TwitchySeal, LOVE the cock First of all, don't modify my quotes. Second, regarding the photo, there is a big difference between yours and mine. Trump never denied knowing Epstein, and he rubbed shoulders with just about everyone in power, so a photo of them together is meaningless. My photo however exposes that he in fact did have direct contact with Burisma Holding's board members in spite of his explicit denial that he ever discussed it with his son. Regarding the affidavits Giuliani has from Shoken are quite relevant and by far not the only evidence against the Bidens and others. As I previously explained, factions within the US organized a coup within Ukraine, leaving anyone with a legal complaint with no one to report the evidence to, until now. These crimes have been in the public domain for some time, but law enforcement both in the US and Ukraine were owned by the perpetrators. Now that both administrations have changed, that is all coming out, and it is going to implicate more people than any of you can imagine as well as expose Russiagate as a desperate attempt at these perpetrators trying to cover their own asses. |
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