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this is another reason i forgot why bitcoin can never replace paper currency, even if delusional people still think that. compound all those microtransactions for .003 btc water and gum purchases, and it will be a big issue.
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that would be nice.. but the marijuana industry needs to get a little more money to hire lobbyists.
i watched the video and those panelists who were against legalization are dumb. they act as if high school kids don't already get high.
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are you willing to put some money where your mouth is?
if he is, he could use betmoose.com or predictious.com to wager his coins. |
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topic sounds like an interesting read.. i'd consider buying the book. does anyone know if this author is reputable? anyone wanna chip in for the PDF file? we can pay the person who originally buys it in bitcoin  edit: i read the first two chapters. something felt weird, like he is just writing this shit to make russians look better. anyway, i went searching for the author and could not find any other information on him (besides a small bio on amazon). |
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I guess you can be a denier in the sense you want to keep the status quo and not burn the economy now and the consumerism and standard of living we in the west presently have.
But in exchange we will damage the ecosystem for the future with pollution and what not and contaminate the land/water reservoirs to get the oil and gas supplies from deep underground.
So economic denial-ism for climate change.
i'm not entirely sure about this issue.. if we invest in greener energy, that could create new industries and help with the economy. the only problem is that the top top 3 oil producers are worth $1 trillion dollars.. if they end up investing even .1% of that into lobbying for looser regulations or even stopping green energy industries from forming, that's still a billion dollars to buy politicians and brueaucrats. We have invested billions into "green" energy with no success. It is simply not cost efficient to produce green energy. that's misinformation. solar panels are getting cheaper and cheaper (with investments), and they are very effective in germany, even though there's a lot of rain in that area. maybe instead of invading the middle east and spend trillions of dollars in that region of the world, we should take that money and put it into renewable resources. but nah, there's more money in invading countries and stripping them of their natural resources. in california, with the rising cost of energy, people are getting more and more solar panels by the day.. and it's saving them money. Solar panels are getting cheaper because the government is increasing their subsides for them. You need to remember that when you buy a solar panel you need to place it somewhere (eg: on land that you own/rent) and this costs money as too (this will get more expensive over time). heard of scale economies? panels are currently more expensive than conventional means of energy... but the gap is shrinking more and more because more money is invested in improving the technology.. and to add to that, mmore people buying any product = cheaper prices. Solar works but the problem is that it lacks intermittency which is that it provides power consistently regardless of the condition If its cloudy solar does not produce much power or at night unlike gas and oil which is stable and provides energy regardless of the conditions a steady supply of power is a must. Wind power is popular but its noisy apparently and a large anti-wind coalition is forming against its implementation near peoples houses. From the CBC a documentary on that issue. http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episodes/wind-rush* Comments on this documentary suggest some FUD so will just leave the note that in general the noise a wind farm can make can give people grievances who live nearby. Guess you need to think who put the money into the documentary at the same time. there's a reason why solar panels are still successful in germany (where it rains a lot). read this... Cloudier locations are still a good match for solar
Germany gets only about as much sunshine as the state of Alaska, but Germans have successfully installed about 25 gigawatts of solar power– half of the entire world’s supply. Portland, Oregon is known for its rainy, dreary winters, but is another good location for solar power: over a full year, despite the winter weather, Portland gets as much sunshine as the average U.S. city. Cities like Portland also have slightly cooler weather than average, which is an advantage for solar panels. Because of the electronics inside, solar panels work best when they aren’t too hot. In a city with extreme summer heat, solar is a little less efficient, which is part of the reason why solar panels in cloudy San Francisco can actually produce more power over a year than the slightly sunnier, hotter city of Sacramento.http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-basics/how-do-solar-panels-work-in-cloudy-weather/ |
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i'm getting more and more bearish by the day.. it's been cool for about 8 months now. if someone has had more than 50% of their assets in bitcoin for these past 8 months, and it hasn't gone anywhere, it would be really tough to justify holding most of your wealth in bitcoins.
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I guess you can be a denier in the sense you want to keep the status quo and not burn the economy now and the consumerism and standard of living we in the west presently have.
But in exchange we will damage the ecosystem for the future with pollution and what not and contaminate the land/water reservoirs to get the oil and gas supplies from deep underground.
So economic denial-ism for climate change.
i'm not entirely sure about this issue.. if we invest in greener energy, that could create new industries and help with the economy. the only problem is that the top top 3 oil producers are worth $1 trillion dollars.. if they end up investing even .1% of that into lobbying for looser regulations or even stopping green energy industries from forming, that's still a billion dollars to buy politicians and brueaucrats. We have invested billions into "green" energy with no success. It is simply not cost efficient to produce green energy. that's misinformation. solar panels are getting cheaper and cheaper (with investments), and they are very effective in germany, even though there's a lot of rain in that area. maybe instead of invading the middle east and spend trillions of dollars in that region of the world, we should take that money and put it into renewable resources. but nah, there's more money in invading countries and stripping them of their natural resources. in california, with the rising cost of energy, people are getting more and more solar panels by the day.. and it's saving them money. |
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I really believe in bitcoin but I would think the best option is to convert to cash or junk silver as a means to protect your investment and maintain a spendable option. I remember during 9-11, the gov shut down all communications immediately and I remember the chaos during the blackout in the Eastern US. Both would have been troublesome situations trying to get supplies/food and pay with bitcoin whereas junk silver 90% quarter dimes halves and nickels would have still been accepted.
I do love the ease of payment with bitcoin though.
I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I am just being a realist because the emp or blackout WILL happen.
sure it WILL happen, because it's happened before.. but how long will that be? 10 years? 100 years? 1,000 years? the last time it happened, where it would have wiped out or electronic systems, was in the mid 1850's.. and it hasn't happened since. I don't really care when it happens it is just the concern that I will holding a bunch a electronic shit that may not work and therefore I am screwed. Mining, spending and diversity into other assets is the only way to go. Anyone that banks entirely on e-coin which can be flicked off by the United Nations is not a realist. well, if you're afraid of a sunspot/EMP from the sun, what i'm saying is.. it shouldn't be at the top of your list of thing to be concerned about. |
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I guess you can be a denier in the sense you want to keep the status quo and not burn the economy now and the consumerism and standard of living we in the west presently have.
But in exchange we will damage the ecosystem for the future with pollution and what not and contaminate the land/water reservoirs to get the oil and gas supplies from deep underground.
So economic denial-ism for climate change.
i'm not entirely sure about this issue.. if we invest in greener energy, that could create new industries and help with the economy. the only problem is that the top top 3 oil producers are worth $1 trillion dollars.. if they end up investing even .1% of that into lobbying for looser regulations or even stopping green energy industries from forming, that's still a billion dollars to buy politicians and brueaucrats. |
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No one knows the future, but predicting that the exchange rate of bitcoins will remain stagnant for 6 months is the most outrageous prediction that one can make.
he isn't saying it will be stagnant. he's just saying that it won't reach 1,000. that's not the same thing. |
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i got a philippino dude into mining bitcoins.. it broke down on him though  Yah its bloody hot down there not the best place for mining although I do recall a few mining centers in a company prospectus or two since the electricity in some parts of the country can be very cheap. So bad for individuals nice for commercial scale. funny thing is, his miner fried and he lives in california |
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if you are a denier, then you are just flat out wrong. an overwhelming majority of scientists say that climate change is man-made, and the science backs it up. something like 90%+ agreed on it.
the one who deny it.. i wouldn't be surprised if they were schills for the energy/oil industries.
also, i used to watch CNN.. when i started to notice how bullshit it was, was when they kept on running those exxon mobil commercials.
For anything you say that's true, you would first have to be able to define denier. If you couldn't do it without creating strawman arguments, tough. Having made that minor note, bolded statement above is enough of an exaggeration to be a lie. how else could you interpret a denier? someone who says that burning fossil fuel, coal, and other energy forms is absolutely NOT causing the heat to be trapped by our ozone layer. it's not an exaggeration. take a look at wikipedia, or listen to a vast majority of scientists speak. the only reason why there is any form of "dissent" is because companies worth billions of dollars are profiting from it, so they have a lot of money leftover to spread misinformation. i mean, shit, you probably can't watch any cable news channel without seeing an exxon mobil commercial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_changehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/05/17/97-percent-of-scientific-studies-agree-on-manmade-global-warming-so-what-now/ |
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You would need to find people in the Philippines to buy your bitcoins with php also. I'm hoping that bitcoin microloans will replace the 5/6 system for poor people that have OFW friends and family. With an SEC license, you could work with money exchanges to set up online accounts for such loans and cover whole cities. Mobile apps would be safer than ATMs or brick and mortar businesses, but keep the amounts small so they don't need to handle a lot of money and require extra security. Really something like localbitcoins or mycelium would work great. It would just take someone to teach people how.
you addressing me? you wouldn't need people in the philippines to buy your bitcoins.. you'd need for philippino people to buy bitcoins from the US or wherever they are, and then send it to the philippines. then you have an exchanger to give the recipient fiat. the exchanger, if they want, can turn the bitcoins into currency. Right. That's what I said. OFWs send bitcoins. But exchangers don't want bitcoins. They don't have anyone to sell them to. You would need to set up an exchange for them and find Filipinos that want to invest in bitcoins. not necessarily though. you don't necessarily need to liquidify your bitcoins in the philippines. why not cash out in another country? i wonder if it's possible to set up a bitpay account to become an exchanger where you liquidify your bitcoins for USD. btw, aren't remittance fees to the philippines ridiculously expensive.. something like 12%? It depends on how much and how you are sending remittance. I pay close to 10%. I tried to get coinbase to work with PNB. They say they are considering it, but that was almost two years ago. If you try to do all the money clearing yourself, I think you will have troubles with banks. There are exchanges starting in PH. Things are moving fast there! are you sending it to family? why can't they accept bitcoin if there are exchanges there? it's kind of a hassle, i'm assuming. |
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there are bigger multinational corporations to hate more than apple, but that doesn't mean i don't hate apple. every time i have to use itunes to fix someone else's phone, i just think "i fucking hate this shit." there are so many things that apple does that just gives the middle finger to consumers, and people still buy their shit.
Agreed. In fact, Apple (Now this hasn't been confirmed, but evidence leads to it) was thinking of forcing people to buy custom headphones just to be able to use headphones at all. They're considering abandoning the standard headphone jack and replacing it with a smaller cable, or changing it to their lightning-30 of whatever cable that is used for USB connections. Their purchase of Beats would make this a very real possibility. So yeah, Apple is inconsiderate. they have their own proprietary cables so they can charge you $29.95 + S&H for it. the whole itunes ecosystem is a way to trap consumers into being locked in to them. apple's file transfer system is inconvenient and stupid, but it makes them a lot of money so they continue to do it. they've also, in the past, withheld new technologies so they can give it to you in the following year and then tell you "this. changes. everything." |
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here's the worst case scenario EMP from 1859 that would be catastrophic in today's terms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/there was an episode on the sun on "how the universe works" recently.. it was a good watch. |
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You would need to find people in the Philippines to buy your bitcoins with php also. I'm hoping that bitcoin microloans will replace the 5/6 system for poor people that have OFW friends and family. With an SEC license, you could work with money exchanges to set up online accounts for such loans and cover whole cities. Mobile apps would be safer than ATMs or brick and mortar businesses, but keep the amounts small so they don't need to handle a lot of money and require extra security. Really something like localbitcoins or mycelium would work great. It would just take someone to teach people how.
you addressing me? you wouldn't need people in the philippines to buy your bitcoins.. you'd need for philippino people to buy bitcoins from the US or wherever they are, and then send it to the philippines. then you have an exchanger to give the recipient fiat. the exchanger, if they want, can turn the bitcoins into currency. Right. That's what I said. OFWs send bitcoins. But exchangers don't want bitcoins. They don't have anyone to sell them to. You would need to set up an exchange for them and find Filipinos that want to invest in bitcoins. not necessarily though. you don't necessarily need to liquidify your bitcoins in the philippines. why not cash out in another country? i wonder if it's possible to set up a bitpay account to become an exchanger where you liquidify your bitcoins for USD. btw, aren't remittance fees to the philippines ridiculously expensive.. something like 12%? |
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i don't remember how this all started exactly.. was it from when he asked for a pretty big "loan" for some "investment opportunity"? it's not like i would have trusted a stranger with money, but damn.. if i met a guy who acted like him, i wouldn't invest even half of a bitcent.
I doubt anyone cares or that you have a half a bitcent to invest. Keeping it going I see? You just don't know when to stop. You forgot that you started it with beetcoin? i can't help but think evershawn is the black night from monty python http://youtu.be/zKhEw7nD9C4?t=1m9s |
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You would need to find people in the Philippines to buy your bitcoins with php also. I'm hoping that bitcoin microloans will replace the 5/6 system for poor people that have OFW friends and family. With an SEC license, you could work with money exchanges to set up online accounts for such loans and cover whole cities. Mobile apps would be safer than ATMs or brick and mortar businesses, but keep the amounts small so they don't need to handle a lot of money and require extra security. Really something like localbitcoins or mycelium would work great. It would just take someone to teach people how.
you addressing me? you wouldn't need people in the philippines to buy your bitcoins.. you'd need for philippino people to buy bitcoins from the US or wherever they are, and then send it to the philippines. then you have an exchanger to give the recipient fiat. the exchanger, if they want, can turn the bitcoins into currency. |
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