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1421  Other / Off-topic / Re: Places you want to travel to before you die on: June 11, 2014, 07:01:57 PM
I want to visit newzeland because I have seen lord of the ring.

if you want to see a place similar to new zealand, at a fraction of the cost, consider northern vietnam.. man, that region was fucking awesome! high mountain scapes, and you can take a boat ride through their rivers. you could probably get by with spending $30 a day in VN.
1422  Other / Off-topic / Re: IF YOU HAD 1,000,000 DOLLARS WHAT WOULD YOU BUY??? on: June 11, 2014, 06:59:47 PM
Would travel around the world chasing girls.

and then end up poor like you started? i don't understand the people who spend money like that. if i had money, i'd try my hardest to make sure that i could live the rest of my life not having to do work that i don't want to. i don't need to fly high, i just need to not sink too low.
1423  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Philosophy] World in 100 years will look like .. on: June 11, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
energy to be almost free? i really, really doubt that. the people who make billions off of energy will not so easily concede it to the rest of the public. why would they, when they could continue making more billions?

i think in 100 years, we'll be in our next dark age.. there are just too many reasons why we have plateaued. we have caused too many issues that will push us back for a while, like tampering with currency and pollution.
1424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Did you think Dogecoin will be the next bitcoin? on: June 11, 2014, 06:51:47 PM
oh man, i laugh at the fools who believe in the pumped alt currencies.. you focus too much on the get-rich-quick part to realize that someone is standing behind the curtain, pulling the strings and all. if you knew insider info on the people who were dumping, that's a different story.. but you're probably just a john.
1425  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your favourite holiday destination & why? on: June 11, 2014, 06:46:05 PM
Honk Kong is up there for me. Beautiful, cosmopolitan city, and bustling with activity and nightlife. It's a fun place to spend a few weeks.

Visited there twice myself.

Too crowded and too expensive.


i was going to say the same, even though i've never been there. it does seem too expensive though, and it looks like most other western cities.. so it doesn't blow my mind. i rather go to a society that hasn't felt the impact of western dominance, so that i get to experience a different way of life. for me, the best thing about travelling is experiencing things that you never knew existed.
1426  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm not prepared for a disaster, are you? on: June 11, 2014, 06:43:52 PM
Hell no I am not prepared. But oh well, I don't think one will happen in the near future so I'm good.

don't be so sure of that. the world economies are starting to crumble, and when that happens, there will be 7 billion people looking to have their meals, electricity, and water. i wouldn't be surprised to see this event occur within the next 20 years.
1427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Events that changed the world... on: June 11, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
they will likely be.. especially with technological singularity possibly being around the corner. that watson AI is now at least very close to matching human intelligence.

also, google has now made safe self-driving cars.. AI/robots are gaining some steam in the development department. btw, do you know how many taxi cab driver jobs would be eliminated if google drive offered a taxi service?

anyways, i'm not even talking about self-consciousness (in response to the for real part). i'm just talking about having AI actually connect 2 ideas together, and be able to perform tasks that humans could.

Watson is nowhere near reaching human intelligence; current AI methods are very far from that. So much so in fact, that only fairly recently has the search for a strong AI (real, human level AI) resumed after the initial hype. For the last few decades the field has mostly shifted to machine learning; that is, searching for solutions for the "simpler" problems like computer vision and so on. Now, it's true that a computer can currently store and organize a lot of information into categories and derive some meaningful information from it; but that is still very far from what a human can do.

As for the second part I emphasized, a lot of human tasks require far more than this. But you're right, a lot of jobs would be rendered obsolete if we decided to automate what we could tomorrow, even without a strong AI.


not to sound like a luddite, but it seems like we're starting to see a shift in the service industry, which is america's biggest labor pool. once things like that get automated, where will the jobs go? especially in the low skilled industries.

prior to that, jobs in factories and skilled labor were overtaken by improved technology. technology is not the same thing as AI. there's a difference in creating a car are much more cost-effective rates vs. firing all of your mcdonalds employees.

This is from my limited understanding of the situation:

Three decades ago, most of the American population was employed in jobs which required a lot of manual labor, such as coal mining and construction. But with the advancement of technology, the scope for such jobs have declined. Now most of the the population is employed in supermarkets (the biggest single provider of jobs in the US, if I am correct) and other service sector jobs. Requires less manual labor, is safer, and at the same time the average salaries are much higher.

You're right, most jobs nowadays are in the service sector, and depending on what metrics you use, they do provide better working conditions. But I believe you're wrong in assuming automation won't be disruptive to most people's livelihood.

I mean, let's take your example of the supermarket: I don't know where you live, but near me I have several supermarkets that have a few "self-service" check out counters; there is no reason why this can't eliminate everyone working at that station. Information areas? A couple of computers can do the trick for most things, and they can contact someone as a last resort (and probably remotely). A lot of the shelves can be redesigned to be filled in automatically; I believe I saw an article with an example some months ago (actually it might have been in a restaurant, I'm not sure). Supplying the goods to the supermarket itself could potentially be done with self-driving vehicles, with only a few people at the supermarket to offload stuff. What did I miss? Cleaning duties? Grin I'd say close to half of the workers could be laid off in a very short amount of time if we really pressed this.

Now, considering the amount of people that are currently employed in the service sector, and considering that many of the jobs could be automated tomorrow, how do you expect to easily retrain large amounts of people into new jobs? And even then, what do you expect them to do? Post in a forum for a living? Humans can adapt only so quickly. And not everyone is going to be able to start a new company; in fact, most of the jobs that could be easily replaced don't pay a lot to begin with, so we're talking about people that probably already live day to day with less than comfortable disposable income.

well, maybe human intelligence is far ahead of watson, but it's predicted that watson or computers will catch up to humans fairly soon (within the next 2 decades). i do believe in the technological singularity too... the point where we just set it to cruise control and computers do all the innovation for us.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/By-2029-computers-will-match-human-intelligence-Ray-Kurzweil/articleshow/21793726.cms
1428  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm not prepared for a disaster, are you? on: June 11, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
i'm not as prepared as i should be. i do watch survival shows though, so i know a few tips and tricks.. but i'd be fucked if i had to live that liefstyle  Cheesy

in a disaster, the most important things are food, water, and shelter.. so it's always a good idea to have some sort of water purifier, like chlorine or idione drops.. and some sort of cheap, non biodegradable food source.
1429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 15-Year-Old Makes $100,000 on Bitcoin on: June 11, 2014, 06:35:16 PM
He did a nice investment like most of us, but he was lucky not to have lost them in scams or trading at loss.

i doubt it has anything to do with luck. he just knew how to protect his assets, unlike many bitcoin holders (at least from the ones who complain here).

I bet this 15 year old will 'yolo' his 100K away in months

Don't generalize the kids. If he is smart enough to invest in Bitcoin, then definitely he is smart enough to spend the money wisely. People who win lottery jackpots usually spend their money recklessly, as they feel that they got the money without any effort. However, in this case, the kid took extreme risk by lending money from his grandma.

that might be ad hominem logic though.. tons of smart people do stupid things, and tons of stupid people do smart things. he might be a smart, tech-savy kid, but that doesn't necessarily translate to "smart with his finances." a good example is steve wozniak.
1430  Other / Off-topic / Re: i like the fact that Xanax is legal on: June 11, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
i haven't done xanax ever, but i used to take ambien to fall asleep. these days my sleep has improved big time, and it's mainly due to meditation.. which relaxes my mind and allows me to sleep. that and weed  Grin

i'm not really into xanax though, it just seems to make you numb.. which isn't the worst thing, but once you depend on it.. it just takes a big toll.
1431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Losers on: June 11, 2014, 06:30:26 PM
there are plenty of loser stories.. dafar says he spent $16k on bitcoins and now he has 12 of them to show for it.

on reddit, one kid inherited 700k and lost more than half of that from buying high and selling low.

tons of people are getting scammed of their coins as well.
1432  Other / Off-topic / Re: Places you want to travel to before you die on: June 11, 2014, 06:26:54 PM
i'm also interested in south america/the amazon jungle.. but from what i hear, south america is one of the more dangerous regions to live in.
1433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why did we develop into large country size tribes? on: June 11, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
Economies of scale. The economy is more efficient when there is a larger population living under consistent rules, so larger countries prosper. Places where there is a different set of laws for each village are mired down by too much red tape when trying to trade, and so they do not prosper. The larger, prosperous nations slowly overtake the poorer regions, either by force or by cultural assimilation: the people in poor countries do not want to stay poor, so they start doing things the way they see the richer countries do things. For example, in Europe they saw that the US was advancing more than they were, so they formed the EU to help standardize economies across borders. As this trend continues, there will be more standardization globally.


This might seem a strange thread btw.  I just always find it odd i live in a street of people who are strangers.

Perhaps that is your own fault? Turn off your computer and go meet your neighbors. Invite them over for a barbeque, see how you can help them, be their friend and you will be happier.




yeah, it's also free trade too. one of the many reasons why america was able to jump ahead of europe after WW2. its' probably why you don't need a passport to travel through europe, and why there is a euro currency in the first place. the bigger you, the more united you are, the more you can dominate other smaller guys.
1434  Other / Off-topic / Re: $16,264.50 ......I'm a fucking idiot on: June 11, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
if you treat bitcoin and cryptos like some get-rich-quick whore, she'll treat you like some get-poor-real-fast, whore soliciting john. plus, if you keep your pants on longer, you'll be able to make calmer, more rational moves.
1435  Other / Off-topic / Re: Places you want to travel to before you die on: June 11, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
i'd liek to go to the mountains in malaysia/indonesia.. had a friend who dropped by that area years ago and it was amazingly beautiful. it's also secluded from the west, at least compared to most touristy places.
1436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Expedia, world's largest travel company, now accepts Bitcoin. Your thoughts? on: June 11, 2014, 04:55:58 PM
Wow, that is great news, and yeah, I think it's probably a bigger deal than Overstock. I'd never actually even heard of them until they started accepting Bitcoin, but Expedia is pretty huge. One of my goals is to be able to travel the world on Bitcoin so this is another step in the right direction.

my goal as well, but thing is.. overstock is huge, even if you haven't heard of it. expedia is big as well though.
1437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP House Majority Leader Eric Cantor Goes Down Hard Tonight!! on: June 11, 2014, 07:24:32 AM
Too early to celebrate. I heard that Cantor is considering to contest the election as a write-in candidate. Considering that the constituency is heavily Republican, he may get the Democrat support. A repetition of the 2010 Alaska senate election? For sure, Cantor has the resources and funds to do the bogus voting and vote rigging.

That could be very risky.

Although GOP is expected (IMO) to gain seats in the house it is generally not good to risk any seats to the other party.

Having two republicans run against each other greatly increases the chances of a Democrat winning the seat.

you know, the funny thing is that republicans get the lower amount of votes, but end up winning more seats due to gerrymandering.

http://library.cqpress.com/elections/document.php?id=rcookltr-1527-84193-2523552

democrats aren't as organized or vicious as republicans, hence them being mocked as pussies.

You obviously don't live in a heavily unionized state or are simply not paying attention.

oh please. i'm talking about the politicians and the wealthy billionaires who pay them to make certain laws. labor unions do buy off politicians too, but not even close to the impact of the koch brothers, roger ailes, rupbert murdoch, and george soros. it makes sense you're from texas though.
 
unions don't have nearly enough money to bribe the politicians too.
1438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Events that changed the world... on: June 11, 2014, 07:16:00 AM
what i'm saying is that ai technology will remove the jobs required from the service industry, as it previously did with manufacturing. well then, where do people concentrate on jobs when the services field is overrun by robots?

This is where I disagree with you. As long as robots are not enabled with Artificial intelligence, they won't be able to do the tasks which are done by store assistants. And artificial intelligence is never going to happen for real.  Grin

they will likely be.. especially with technological singularity possibly being around the corner. that watson AI is now at least very close to matching human intelligence.

also, google has now made safe self-driving cars.. AI/robots are gaining some steam in the development department. btw, do you know how many taxi cab driver jobs would be eliminated if google drive offered a taxi service?

anyways, i'm not even talking about self-consciousness (in response to the for real part). i'm just talking about having AI actually connect 2 ideas together, and be able to perform tasks that humans could.
1439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: June 11, 2014, 06:56:32 AM
I remember seeing him get booed off stage at tea party rally once. ******* carpet bagger.

Lindsey Graham is currently the most senior RINO senator, after many of his friends (including Richard Lugar and Olympia Snowe) and went down in the recent years. The inability to oust him from the GOP shows the sorry state of the party in South Carolina. 

oh god, lindsey graham is hilarious.. i love it when jon stewart mocks his effeminate voice, and makes fun of his name along with it.
1440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Iraq's second largest city, Mosul, captured by Islamic State of Iraq and Syria on: June 11, 2014, 06:54:48 AM
last week's episode of through the wormhole implied that people from africa and the middle east had too much diversity, so it made something about their genes more sectarian. through the research, they found that the societies with the a good balance of diversity, but not too much, would be the ones that have the most success as societies.
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