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781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: February 15, 2014, 01:25:31 PM
Hi
I am new in the world of cryptocurrency.
I want to join to NEM.

Write in the private message of utopianfuture with a theme "NEM Registration thread".

Automatic registration to new accounts is closed NOW. If you are new to Bitcointalk and want to join in you will need to make a short introduction post about yourself in our introduction thread first.
The thread is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.new#new  Automatic registrations are still open to veteran account opened before 2/1/2014. No need to PM me. Thank you all for your support.
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 15, 2014, 12:06:53 PM
To simplify the process of accepting new account registrations, I asked every new accounts to make a short introduction post in this thread before sending the fee in. The community could ask questions but please be nice to new people of whom many are not native English speakers and also respect other's right to privacy. I am preparing NEM front site so the list update was delayed yesterday. So be patient if you sent the fee in after page 70 and did not see your accounts yet. Thanks for supporting NEM.

UP
783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 09:06:32 PM
guys stop being retarded.  hes deleting the 'interested' bullshit you all are spewing because this thread is not for that.  the other registration thread is for claiming a stake.  its not a scam.  This is the discussion thread.

its a scam!  Look at the name and activity.

Hey guys, just go to his profile

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=249998

and give him negative trust

That he can't ddelete

I did this !
Let's hope this helps , also please use the function to report to moderator!!!

OK apparantly it is handeled. The thread is locked and Utopianfuture1 has -6 thust.
So as a warning to everyone, Utopianfuture can be thrusted but beware of the dude with a 1 behind it!

It's incredible what people do to rip off others  Shocked
Sorry but I won't let anyone thrust me, especially from behind.
784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 03:42:07 PM
I see others here on bitcointalk are making "clone/fork" versions of nxt as expected.  Would it be possible or even practical to get any of them to join forces with us and make an even more powerful community around nem, or is that just like chasing your own shadow?

A success is all about the community including developers, helpers who share the same idea. What kind of ideas, peoples does these forks have ? All of them comes from new, anonymous accounts which by itself has no credibility perhaps except PiNX which I like.

And at this point NEM is not planned to be a NXT fork. We re-write the codes completely with many new ideas. 
785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
Excuse me, I send you a transaccion with a few bitcoin with my bitcointalk id  because  in the list
of shareholder i have a note with duplicated hash, please modify this error.  The scam FotonBumm has appropriated the transaccion.
Thanks


https://blockchain.info/es/tx/f5c403a08d5b8dfd5227eb64483caf3608535f3577b5c54d20de6e96704d8c77

I moved your request to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5141743#msg5141743 ; don't worry it will be solved in an order.
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 14, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Mike howard case of duplicate hash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5141718#msg5141718
787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: February 14, 2014, 02:03:48 PM
UPDATE:

Automatic registration to new accounts is closed now. New people are still welcomed to join in but not sockpuppet accounts. So if you are new to Bitcointalk and want to join in you will need to contact me first.

Edit: I make a simple rule for new accounts to join in; make a post introducing yourself in our discussion thread then send the fee to join in. Thanks.

UP

Thanks for supporting NEM.
788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 14, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
I sent 40 nxt and posted relevant information in page 42 of the first thread (link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4686582#msg4686582)

but when i looked at the stakeholder list i saw that my name didn't have a Y behind it.

link to blockchain explorer: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=3909252813797837342

what should i do to confirm that it is my account?

when will this be addressed? thanks.

There will be a public auditing once registration is over. That's the latest point possible. However it could very well be that uptopian will address this sooner - hard to say since there are quite a few people with problems.

patmast3r will take care of this stake complaint thread from now on. So please PM him if your information is sensitive, otherwise just post the your case here and we will deal with it in an order. Thanks.
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: February 14, 2014, 12:03:40 PM
UPDATE:

Automatic registration to new accounts is closed starting from page 80. If you are new to Bitcointalk and want to join in you will need to contact me first.

All fee sent from new accounts without verification could be considered a donation. Thanks for supporting NEM.
790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
Some updates :

1. This is the NEM stakeholder population statistics compiled by Kooream https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdG1XYWlDemNENl9IaGR5ZHNUNTNhcmc#gid=1  This statistics is up to page 70 of registration thread 2. Feel free to check the accuracy yourself.

Basically, we look though the profiles of every stakeholders and group them into three groups: Group 1 : veteran accounts opened before the fundrasing; Group 2 : accounts opened during the fundrasing but showed further activity; Group 3: accounts opened for NEM registration only (1 post)

The results are:

For thread 1:

Group 1 : 711 stakeholders
Group 2 : 310 stakeholders
Group 3 : 440 stakeholders

For thread 2 up to page 70

Group 1 : 706 stakeholders
Group 2 : 286 stakeholders
Group 3 : 706 stakeholders


Thanks for supporting NEM.

I made a little mistake. In the second thread there are 281 veteran stakeholder against 706. I apologize for the misunderstanding but my defense I was tired in the end of the list.


Is was embarrassing. Kooream was sleepy when he made the summary for  thread 2 and I forgot to check as well. So the summary statistics are (nothing changes to individual grouping)

For thread 1:

Group 1 : 711 stakeholders
Group 2 : 310 stakeholders
Group 3 : 440 stakeholders

For thread 2 up to page 70

Group 1 : 281 stakeholders
Group 2 : 286 stakeholders
Group 3 : 706 stakeholders

So this statistics is probably more in line with the expectation. While I believe the majority of group 3 accounts are not sockpuppets given that it is allowed to make a proxy account to buy 1 share for your loved one; and maybe some new accounts are not yet active. In light of the recent jump in group 3 registration, I would close automatic registration to new accounts starting from page 80. New accounts want to join in will need to contact me to verify their status before the registration. Automatic registrations are still open to veteran account opened before the fund raising.
  
791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 03:08:57 AM
What charitable foundations would you like to see NEM donate to?  I think it'll be fun to decide now.

I personally am a fan of charities such as Water for Kids, Build Africa or any other charity which helps out vulnerable people in third world countries, especially ones involving building projects like schools, wells etc. How cool would that be for NEM to get involved with? I think it resonates well with NEM's egalitarian ethos.

@The Development Team, what do you think about reserving a stake or 2 (maybe more?) for a charitable cause? I think that'd be really great.

Edit: I posted this same question to the NEM subreddit. Head over there to talk if you feel like it! Smiley

While it is tempting to do so, I would prefer charity as a decentralized effort. We should be able to do it as a community.
792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 03:06:01 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to my fusion powered quantum ROI calculator we've struck gold here. 1 stake = 1 million NEM. If NEM were to be listed on any BTC exchange we'd see a minimum price of 1 satoshi per NEM. This equals 0.01 BTC per stake. We're rich!

It is too conservative. I will not stop until NEM's market capitalization at least reaching Litecoin's level. 

That's what I was thinking. This is not a "dump at the first possible opportunity" project. I'm afraid though that many stakholders think like that.

This is why we should make sure that we can also build a similarly strong community! Then,anything is possible. But in the end the goal should be to achieve someting that has value (not because of the investment but) because it is usefull!

Yeah - agreed. NEM in and off itself won't be more usefull than NXT or most other cryptos. The most advanced and stable priced crypto isn't usefull if you can't do anything with it (other than storing value if it's really really stable). What could and will make it more usefull is the services and other things we (mostly devs Smiley ) build around NEM.


Agree with the comments. I have been thinking what can be do to give value to NEM beyond the still restricted world of crypto currencies. Maybe, if the development can introduced the idea of NXT's coloured coins and assist's exchanges in straightforward way, I guess it can be more easy to establish markets in which NEM can be used to buy/sells gods and thus transfer value to the coin. Thus, one of the markets that NEM can exploit is those agricultural products under the denomination of Fair Trade. Quite often, those products are sealed by small cooperatives of farmers in third developed countries. I envision in the near future that NEM, thanks to its egalitarian character, can be used by small communities or cooperatives to interchange its products in a fair way, without the intromission of intermediates that inflates the prices on their benefits

I love this idea. please join our Trello borad to make this possible. (pm me)
793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 14, 2014, 02:45:15 AM
Some updates :

1. This is the NEM stakeholder population statistics compiled by Kooream https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdG1XYWlDemNENl9IaGR5ZHNUNTNhcmc#gid=1  This statistics is up to page 70 of registration thread 2. Feel free to check the accuracy yourself.

Basically, we look though the profiles of every stakeholders and group them into three groups: Group 1 : veteran accounts opened before the fundrasing; Group 2 : accounts opened during the fundrasing but showed further activity; Group 3: accounts opened for NEM registration only (1 post)

The results are:

For thread 1:

Group 1 : 711 stakeholders
Group 2 : 310 stakeholders
Group 3 : 440 stakeholders

For thread 2 up to page 70

Group 1 : 706 stakeholders
Group 2 : 286 stakeholders
Group 3 : 706 stakeholders

Interpretations of this statistics are up to readers but I believe we should have at least 2000 unique accounts after the fundraising is over. Given the increasing percentage of group 3 accounts, I may require new account registrations going through a verification process first after page 80.

2. After publishing the development plan, our core team has moved to a Trello board. Ideas are being discussed and works are being done in earnest. That board is private for now. I have opened another board : NEM promotion and I would like you to join in if you want your ideas stick. The key difference between the board and this thread is that: the ideas in that board will stick and have people trying to carry it through. I read many great ideas in this thread but without people push them forward they might just be great ideas forever. Furthermore, they may be buried under dozen of pages on different topics after a few days. So a task board for these ideas is a good thing.

So Pm me your email if you want to join the board. Many things are in need of people managing : Reddit, Twitter, websites, charity etc.
https://trello.com/b/GEWEPSZJ/nem-promotion.  This board will be open to the public but of course only members can write. And just to be clear joining and working to what extent on the board is voluntary; it is just a way to organize the community's efforts better.

Thanks for supporting NEM.
794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 13, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to my fusion powered quantum ROI calculator we've struck gold here. 1 stake = 1 million NEM. If NEM were to be listed on any BTC exchange we'd see a minimum price of 1 satoshi per NEM. This equals 0.01 BTC per stake. We're rich!

It is too conservative. I will not stop until NEM's market capitalization at least reaching Litecoin's level. 
795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 13, 2014, 04:31:20 PM
Guys, i want to promote NXT on reddit now that the tipbot works and want to start a giveaway that i crosspromote on other subreddits. Would there be some communityfunds available for that?

We should take a big effort to explain why P-O-S is different from P-O-W coin and the term pre-mine does not apply. Also take an effort to stress on how P-O-W coin have been dominated by mining industry which is a big extra burden for a self-sufficient blockchain.

Yes, we will start also a seperate info campain. When i start this giveaway i will need a list of clients and links where one can get started with NXT. Reddit is currently a Doge dominated place, but i think we can penetrate that market with our superior features!

I have been advertising massively in Dogecoin reddit in more than a week. Click-though rate is very decent at more than 1500 unique clicks. It probably does not work that well for NXT since NEM is still in registration phase and everyone is curious. Here's the thing about crypto-subreddit spaces; everyone protects their spaces like crazy. You could not book an advertising spaces in Peercoin, Litecoin, Bitcoin subreddit up to 1 month forward, however Doge spaces are relatively open so that I did find some slots while NEM registration is still open. I have one day in Bitcoin subreddit later this month as well.
That's something if you manage Reddit you should keep in mind. When the readers there grow, have NXT related businesses advertise in the sub-reddit far into future.  
796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 13, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
Guys, i want to promote NXT on reddit now that the tipbot works and want to start a giveaway that i crosspromote on other subreddits. Would there be some communityfunds available for that?

We should take a big effort to explain why P-O-S is different from P-O-W coin and the term pre-mine does not apply. Also take an effort to stress on how P-O-W coin have been dominated by mining industry which is a big extra burden for a self-sufficient blockchain.
797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: February 13, 2014, 04:07:15 PM
Hey just sent my .06 BTC from blockchain at 1H7qrCMZWE9UeEDHyH7xz1e65xYAYZ3CF

Hash 8e112df29c20ec5c151d58091b8dd77832ce6c6f4ad21f6b23d6d0cb12ae4eff

Thanks! I sent this on 6 Feb I am also on page 52 with the same post

Why do you repost ?

I didn't know if they got it bc I still haven't been added to the stakeholder list

You are already in. Check the list.
798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 13, 2014, 03:50:01 PM
Do you need additional help/support from community?

I think for now we have enough people to get this implemented but when we get to the "testnet" stage we'd be hoping to get some extra help.


Great initiative. any ETA for a testnet ?
799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 13, 2014, 03:02:24 PM
i hope you will refund/cancle any stakes that are from the same btc/nxt accounts? even if there are sockpuppets i think this is goig to be good! Smiley oh whats the expected stake for regular stake?

The goal has always been to spread NEM widely and evenly (but not perfectly even) at the beginning distribution and I take that goal seriously. We have couple of plans to make that happen.

hi this is what I plan to share. NEM stakeholder's population statistics

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdG1XYWlDemNENl9IaGR5ZHNUNTNhcmc#gid=0

Kooream complied this and he is half way through thread 2.

In my estimation, we already have around 1000 unique stakeholders in registration thread 1 alone.
800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 13, 2014, 02:45:28 PM
i think you should close the stake holder list!!! keeping it open longer while knowing its purely new accounts just makes you look greedy! thats not a good image for a coin creator!

I have funding number and stakeholder number targets and they have been announced well in advance. You can read it in the front page when you fist register. Everything goes according to plan so far. Fundraising actually goes a bit too fast. 
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