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1901  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 13, 2015, 03:33:03 PM
You´ve got to admit that this is looking down right scary. Imagine the retards that have been buying this thing. Sheesh.


Ya somewhat but I tend to look at the long and big picture. When I started mining BTC was just breaking $30.00 very little name recognition and development then. So I feel this is just the cycles and growing pains of a new technology. I also feel, it been over priced as well for a long time. The onslaught of asics, centralized mining farms have really hurt by massively increasing difficulty levels. Hopefully this price drop will serve a form of cleansing or flushing out of sorts, maybe a reset time for many. And get rid of the speculators who have driven BTC on wild ride for quite some time now. Its already stabilizing.

Still may be feeling some effects of the bitstamps stolen coins hitting market? and how they may be attempting to replace missing coins? all the things will impact price. I am sure there are many waiting to see the new floor" per se and buy back up BTC while low.
1902  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 13, 2015, 03:20:33 PM
Waking up to even a lower BTC,,,hmmm I am just wondering how Josh plans to buy back XPY at 20.00, now or in the future without much BTC value, I am sure that's a big part of it and sure is going to hurt that effort, assuming he really plans to.

Only good news is last night I gobbled up GHash mining shares on cex.io dirt cheap lol, now the big question is, will they ever turn back on cloud hashing  Undecided but I still have confidence BTC will rebound, and after having an active account with cex.io since the beginning I felt it worth the risk.

Much better to do that than gobble up XPY on a notion of a 20.00 buy back  Grin

I see the hash rate on Ghash is still around ~40 PHs. Seems like they have not actually shut anything off at this point.

Yes that's correct, 40+ PH and was the first thing I looked at! lol I am sure they will keep mining without the added burdens of cloud services, kinda lean up operations and keep the BTC to pay bills and keep it alive for now. Lets just hope we see a rebound soon. May never see BTC go this low again for a while, I seriously doubt its going away anytime soon. But could go even lower before a turn around.
1903  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 13, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
Waking up to even a lower BTC,,,hmmm I am just wondering how Josh plans to buy back XPY at 20.00, now or in the future without much BTC value, I am sure that's a big part of it and sure is going to hurt that effort, assuming he really plans to.

Only good news is last night I gobbled up GHash mining shares on cex.io dirt cheap lol, now the big question is, will they ever turn back on cloud hashing  Undecided but I still have confidence BTC will rebound, and after having an active account with cex.io since the beginning I felt it worth the risk.

Much better to do that than gobble up XPY on a notion of a 20.00 buy back  Grin
1904  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 07:17:48 PM
Anyway, https://hashtalk.org/topic/28852/i-completely-disagree-with-allens-math-for-buyback-20-taking-15-years/28 we got some more words:

Quote
We has the option of focusing on just building paybase and helping xpy grown over time. Or, to do that and make sure every person received at least $20 for their coins. We choose the latter of the two.

Why will it take another 2 and a half months until anyone sees payments? Why have you not responded to claims that you're selling coins out of the premine?
We have to build the system for the program.

We will clear up the confusion on the coins soon.

Why is there a lock-in period without guarantees as to whether we'll get the money in a short amount of time?
There are variables we still do not know.

Who is the "third party"?
We are evaluating companies now.

What happened to the promise of not requiring verification for xpy/btc $20 selling?
You will not need to verify yourself to trade btc or xpy.

But you will to participate in the program. There are legal requirements on our end.

So basically nobody not even Josh knows WTF will happen, all they know is what they want to hear,,, and that changes by the hour... what a true definition of a cluster F**k, and like all along no one agrees on any of the math with this coin fiasco. Good luck! you all are sure going to need it. There is no light at the end of this tunnel, only more darkness....
1905  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 02:58:31 PM

Anyone have a copy of what allen1980 posted last night in regards to the INCOMMING announcement? would be interesting to read.... what got him banned?
1906  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 02:44:25 PM
Appears to have already peaked....  Shocked

Time for another announcement from josh
1907  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 02:18:35 PM
Price is soaring on bittrex can ya believe it,,, I just wish I had bought up some yesterday at .011 and selling it today to the suckers buying in at .021 and up lol oh well.... really don't want any part of it  Wink I'm am sure the peak is coming then massive dump AGAIN
1908  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 01:08:42 PM
What does that escrow thing even matter? What's an escrow anyways? I think maybe you guys have run out of things to complain about and are just witch hunting for anything. Don't call Josh Homero and don't talk crap about him. He's doing really good and is buying paycoin at $20 each now. Sad to see you'll resort to anything to try to bring down Mr. Garza and his company. GAWminers has done nothing but be great and innovate the industry. It ain't easy leading an entire industry with innovation chaps think about that for a sec.

Ya, Be sure to report back March 1st and let everyone know how its working out for you.  Shocked
1909  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
This is amazing to see, how he can spew out some half assed plan and the following and then some, start buying all over again. Now I am sure there is many who are simply buying just for the ride to make a quick buck before price falls again. Once the rest realize they won't see any buy back or even be able to touch their coins for months if not years is all just beyond me. Its hard to even comprehend that GAW may still be in existence that far out or even worse crypto in general. And if BTC continues to stagger and slide as it has, then XPY really wont be worth anything either, not even to Josh and he knows it too.
1910  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 06:07:47 AM
Gaw appears to already be in a liquidation mode of some sort,,, and now this attempt to create a "retirement plan" out their paycoin holders and name it the Honors Program, (sounds convincing enough lol) even then it seems there will be some kind of a lengthy red tape sign up enrollment... this just gets better every day  Cheesy

Goodnight all,  Cool
1911  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 05:49:39 AM
Gaw released an announcement about a $20 paycoin honor program:

http://blog.paybase.com/paybase-honors-20-paycoin/
Just when you think you have seen it all lol  Grin I wonder how many Gaw geniuses it took to come up with his new plan? What a crock of shit.  Cool
1912  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 03:07:35 AM
If paycoin falls in the Forrest do you hear it ?

Nope, if Paycoin falls in the forest Josh will tweet the believers and soothingly tell them that the world turned sideways and Paycoin is still standing tall and they will believe it.

Check out the latest "Not a pre-announcement" over at HT. One little blurb from their messiah and they are all giddy and talking about what "gift" he has for them this time:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/28778/incoming

In 1 hour over 130 schoolgirl posts. Effing pathetic.
Going to throw them another bone now (with no meat on it)  Grin
1913  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 11, 2015, 05:53:03 PM
I was just wondering what power supply they are providing with them?

I was curious about that as well.  

Someone posted the Email yesterday and it showed the EVGA PSUs with the red braiding in the pictures for sale by themselves, and also server PSUs as well. I bet the PSU included in the $169 S3 deal is a 100 db Jet Engine server PSU and not the pricey EVGA one. Can anyone confirm this or find the post with the email? I tried to dig through the ~50 pages from the last day and my eyes got blurry and I gave up.

Link from my email yesterday

https://www.gawminers.com/collections/on-sale?utm_source=Newsletter+List&utm_campaign=23e62a4d3e-final-miner-sale&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ec90950adf-23e62a4d3e-146078825&mc_cid=23e62a4d3e&mc_eid=be1f346751

I assume the included PSU with s3 is the red braids

I don't think so. Those are EVGA 1,000 watters which can run 2xS3 (you can see that in the operation pics) and they have those for sale @ $129 each in the email. Yesterday I saw an Email flyer that also had server PSUs with PCIe cables for sale by GAW, I bet one of those is included with the $169 S3/PSU deal.

Edit to add: DOH! The email I was talking about is the one linked here, I had just looked at the other one. You can see the server PSUs for $50. I scored 2x EVGA 600 watt PSUs from Egg for $19 on BF. They are a really beefy 49 amps of 12volt.

19 bucks! 49 amps... sweet, I must have missed that deal lol Would have bought just to have as spares....  Cheesy
1914  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 11, 2015, 05:15:25 PM
I was just wondering what power supply they are providing with them?

I was curious about that as well.  

Someone posted the Email yesterday and it showed the EVGA PSUs with the red braiding in the pictures for sale by themselves, and also server PSUs as well. I bet the PSU included in the $169 S3 deal is a 100 db Jet Engine server PSU and not the pricey EVGA one. Can anyone confirm this or find the post with the email? I tried to dig through the ~50 pages from the last day and my eyes got blurry and I gave up.

Link from my email yesterday

https://www.gawminers.com/collections/on-sale?utm_source=Newsletter+List&utm_campaign=23e62a4d3e-final-miner-sale&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ec90950adf-23e62a4d3e-146078825&mc_cid=23e62a4d3e&mc_eid=be1f346751

I assume the included PSU with s3 is the red braids
1915  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 11, 2015, 04:39:18 PM
GAW might be returning to its roots as a hardware reseller, I just got the first email yesterday offering Bitmain miners. Not a single mention of PayBase or Paycoin.... I think he realized that this is going to come crashing down around them and ruin the company, so back to plan A?
Yep got the same email. I think they will or should be selling them even cheaper due to being used AND BTC so low and little if any profit for now. But GAW should have stuck to what was working. I am sure they are also trying to raise capitol before the shit hits the fan with PAYwhatever coin.
1916  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 11, 2015, 03:52:01 PM
I wish you all luck with your endeavors, I am going back to the real game and that is BTC, I hope we all can one day look back at this and wish that we did not cause the damage to all Crypto that we have done over the last few months.

This vendetta against GAW and Josh has made the whole crypto community look like a bunch of fucking amateurs. Only 6 months ago Crypto was getting excellent main stream press and was looking good. However the in fighting, scams, and crap coins have now made it look like a joke.

Asic mining has killed scrypt, it may even kill BTC, coins like Dark Coin and Black Coin will not take off due to their names.

I will not be posting here or on hash talk as all the negativity has shown me that the crypto community will keep fighting each other and keep calling all new coins or innovation a scam.

The people on this forum and others have done more harm to Crypto than good, so be proud of yourselves as you may find that you are the ones stopping crypto getting wide spread acceptance, it is only a matter of time before the Banks and Governments of the world centralize the technology and all Crypto will go down in the history books as a fad.

So pat yourself on the shoulder and say well done as you are the guy's who supposedly want to see Crypto be a success have actually made it look like a fools paradise.

You all need to rethink what your agenda is here and start thinking about the bigger picture, so step away from your key boards and start promoting Crypto instead of tearing it down.    
Huh? what is he talking about lol, let me get this, so this one forum thread critiquing a new alt coin that claims to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, is now responsible for ruining crypto in general?  Cry  Like they say there is one in every crowd... I guess we found him  Cool
1917  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 04:35:58 AM

that's better, but your still missing the point.. as in Trained like a dog or monkey,,,,, he ask you to jump and you will say how high...... NOT as in, Trained like a skilled certified server technician or code writer or a PR pro, as you seem to insist on implying that in what I said, for some unknown reason? lol

EDIT: For the record his current staff is a joke... NOT trained


i see what you are saying, I merged everything together into one giant blob , lawyer was there, after that trained was mentioned. my bad



lol ya its cool,,, I know exactly what you mean  Wink

but understand, I do agree with everything you said, non the less lol  Grin
1918  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 04:12:59 AM
Well I gotta give Homero some credit....at least he knows that he's too stupid for a LIVE debate.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28616/response-to-andrew-re-debate

There is no way that was written by Garza.  Sounds like a lawyer'd response to my ears.  lame.

Agree. And it took them two days to come up with this, so you can imagine the pace of the "debate" Smiley
lol ain't no way Josh wrote that, its bogus.. a prepared statement. (by someone else) Must be nice to have trained people at your disposal like that..... he's gotta be doing something right  Grin  lol

Trained?

the same people who "realised" after a failed attempt that it would be illegal to make the proposed pay floor?

the same people who didn't read a simple TOS on the site they were using for credit card payments?

The same people "who went over the maths" and it all make sense and it perfectly doable?
trained at what?
Trained at bowing to his every wish and command, whether it be right or wrong,,,, Don't take a "word" out of my post or anyone elses for that matter and make a spectacle out it either please... that's so un cool and tacky  Cool

how about 2 instead.

trained people?
that's better, but your still missing the point.. as in Trained like a dog or monkey,,,,, he ask you to jump and you will say how high...... NOT as in, Trained like a skilled certified server technician or code writer or a PR pro, as you seem to insist on implying that in what I said, for some unknown reason? lol

EDIT: For the record his current staff is a joke... NOT trained
1919  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:54:08 AM
Well I gotta give Homero some credit....at least he knows that he's too stupid for a LIVE debate.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28616/response-to-andrew-re-debate

There is no way that was written by Garza.  Sounds like a lawyer'd response to my ears.  lame.

Agree. And it took them two days to come up with this, so you can imagine the pace of the "debate" Smiley
lol ain't no way Josh wrote that, its bogus.. a prepared statement. (by someone else) Must be nice to have trained people at your disposal like that..... he's gotta be doing something right  Grin  lol

Trained?

the same people who "realised" after a failed attempt that it would be illegal to make the proposed pay floor?

the same people who didn't read a simple TOS on the site they were using for credit card payments?

The same people "who went over the maths" and it all make sense and it perfectly doable?
trained at what?
Trained at bowing to his every wish and command, whether it be right or wrong,,,, Don't take a "word" out of my post or anyone elses for that matter and make a spectacle out it either please... that's so un cool and tacky  Cool
1920  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:42:38 AM
Well I gotta give Homero some credit....at least he knows that he's too stupid for a LIVE debate.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28616/response-to-andrew-re-debate

There is no way that was written by Garza.  Sounds like a lawyer'd response to my ears.  lame.

Agree. And it took them two days to come up with this, so you can imagine the pace of the "debate" Smiley
lol ain't no way Josh wrote that, its bogus.. a prepared statement. (by someone else) Must be nice to have trained people at your disposal like that..... he's gotta be doing something right  Grin  lol
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