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1701  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 16, 2015, 06:21:23 AM
Okay. So he once had controlled of this account.

So here is the next question:
0. Was he really the owner before me (or before the hacker)?
1. Did he stage the hack?



1. OP downloads the wallet of a coin no one has heard of, a brand new coin launched just a few days ago.
2. OP does not scan it before downloading
3. OP does not have a anti virus installed.

4. He didn't bother to change the password after finding that his system has been compromised. He waited more than 2 days, not doing what anyone else would have done? Really?
Anyone here, who wouldn't change the passwords after getting hacked?

He either didn't care, or he is very clever.

If he didn't bother about this, and this is just irrevalent to him, then I suppose he doesn't deserve this account.
0.75BTC is more worth to me than this account is worth to him.

Or he staged it, which is quite probable. The hacker waited 3 days, why? He knew he wouldn't change the password? No. There is just no hacker. Just the OP.
1702  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
Still willing to sell this to you for 0.85BTC.

I thought it is worth to you more than that.


Quote from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

Quote
If you want me to recover a hacked/lost account, you need to prove that you own it. Typically, the only acceptable method of proving ownership is by signing a message (including current date and desired new email address) using a Bitcoin address or PGP key associated with the account. A Bitcoin address or PGP key is associated with the account only if the account posted the key/address, sent it in a PM, or if it is still listed in the account's profile.

I very rarely recover accounts if you can't prove ownership as described above. There are alternative ways of proving ownership, but they take too much time. If I point you to this thread, you can't prove ownership properly, and then I ignore your future PMs, this means that I'm not going to recover your account. Create a new one.

Well, you couldn't prove ownership properly.
1703  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: March 15, 2015, 07:59:38 PM
Can I join after I get this thing off?  Undecided

shorena said it was put so that I do not sell it or ask for a loan.
I asked to change it to neutral trust, but he said it won't get much attention, which is actually right.

This is not getting over https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982538.msg10783159#msg10783159
Probably will take weeks.
1704  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 07:28:28 PM
Posting this so that you don't believe any image he sends blindly.
I am no idiot, and I find a good probability that he may not be a/the victim, he is claiming to be.

(Please ignore that pointer at P, forgot to take it away from there Wink) Didn't bother to attend to the details. Sorry.




The gap, length, etc. is exactly accurate. Not photoshopped of course.

All 3 addresses taken from 3 profiles posted in this thread. Unfortunately, Quickseller didn't have one in his profile. ;

You can create a Bitfinx account like I did and check whether you can find anything wrong.


Shouldn't have gone with big amounts, since it gives you an unreal impression. Other than that everything is perfect:



You can even check the details..
(I think I should have aavoided the .00 part. I think it doesn't appear. Never mind.)


Well, you also understand why I didn't bother to provide images of the PMs between me and the hacker/OP. It is not credible. An administrator can check my PMs.
1705  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
You only came forward because the account is worthless with the negative remarks. Plus, I have proven I own MinermanNC, No matter what you say, that address in the screen capture of MinermanNC, IS MY WALLET ADDRESS PERIOD, ....then, now and in the future.

And what about the coindrone.com advertisement in that image capture, a website domain I STILL OWN. I suppose I copied and pasted that and went out and created a website to match? lol that in itself should speak volumes about my truthfulness.  like I said you are grasping at straws.

And to think I was almost a bit sympathetic about your situation... and taking that into considerations, for when all this is over.

Like I said before, and Ill say it again, you could do the right thing and simply return my account at anytime. Sometimes good things come to those with honesty and integrity.

MMNC

The problem is I have less than 0.2BTC right now. 0.75BTC means much to me. I can't give that up willingly.

I don't understand why you don't send ME the proofs that you have? I still believe that the whole thing can be staged. I have been scammed once, and it was quite clever and thought out. Sorry, if you were really hacked, but even if you provide evidence that you once controlled the account, you will have to provide evidence that you did not sell it to me.
The timing is very very suspicious..

Was the password changed just once or twice?

You said you gave priority to other more relevant things, for 2 days, and didn't bother to post here, etc.

Want to know what is the circumstantial evidence that you are talking about? And why is OP being very secretive about evidence?
1706  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 03:25:57 PM
I am going to fake I am Muhammad Zakir by giving same stupid proofs as you did. Wink

Done. Didn't bother to take snapshots.

Check my profile. See anything similar? Now you know that I am Muhammad Zakir. Wink  (I am acting like OP did)

Send 0.001 to that address, I will check the receiving address from any block explorers and send the amount to it from my wallet.

I also have alts other than these 2 (if I don't I will pay someone to do it) , and I will confirm from them that this is my account.


P.S. I haven't changed anything (except address just now, password and email). Nothing at all. Deleted none of the posts you made. Yet, you cannot come up with a proper proof?

Now you are really "grasping at straws"  Roll Eyes

I wish I was half as smart and clever as all that you described,,, but you lost me. Are you sure your not the hacker? you may be showing your true colors here now,,, you seem to be pretty crafty all of the sudden?  How do we know your not raindev, or even Blackcatdev ?  I think you got some explaining to do of your own.

Prove how much you say you paid some guy for this account and so on... you claim .75 BTC? .. transactions? and where were you and what were you doing when my account passwords got changed? and why did you NOT get proof he owned the account by asking for a signature address yourself?

You have not presented much of anything substantial in here ... at all.

I have been giving you the benefit of the doubt until now. I think everyone needs to demand a little more proof of your pretty lame story of how you came to get ahold of it?

Actually I am wondering if you didn't steal the account to begin with.... How do we know if you didn't steal it? maybe you are raindev and you realized I had started a thread wanting my stolen account back which, immediately got us both negative remarks, and so now you are just trying to save face and somehow get the bad remarks removed so you can continue on trying to sell it off to some sucker? Prove that? I am really having second thoughts about your claim and I think its high time you catch a little scrutiny in here on your claims.

I have presented more than enough for most with any common sense to draw a logical conclusion now. If there is something more I can add to satisfy an Admin, or persons that have realistic questions, and not bogus, farfetched and stretched imaginative type questions, then all they have to do is ask.

THX, everyone else.

I was expecting this kind of behavior. When you can't defend yourself, you go offensive.

I have enough brains to know that none of the proofs you submitted is real. You can't disprove it, can you?

I am not a scammer. And never will be. I busts scams not do that myself. If I hacked your account (which is something I would never do). as you suddenly act to be suspicious, I would have sold it. It is common sense.

I have posted transaction ids of the transactions a few posts back.You can check the timing, amount and anything you like. Administrators will also be able to check the PMs.

The burden of proving that your account is hacked is not mine. It is yours. Yet, you couldn't do that.
1707  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 04:02:21 AM
I am going to fake I am Muhammad Zakir by giving same stupid proofs as you did. Wink

Done. Didn't bother to take snapshots.

Check my profile. See anything similar? Now you know that I am Muhammad Zakir. Wink  (I am acting like OP did)

Send 0.001 to that address, I will check the receiving address from any block explorers and send the amount to it from my wallet.

I also have alts other than these 2 (if I don't I will pay someone to do it) , and I will confirm from them that this is my account.


P.S. I haven't changed anything (except address just now, password and email). Nothing at all. Deleted none of the posts you made. Yet, you cannot come up with a proper proof?
1708  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 03:58:03 AM
I am going to fake I am Muhammad Zakir by giving same stupid proofs as you did. Wink
1709  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 03:56:14 AM
OP is too vague and has not provided any credible proof till now.

I sincerely hope, administrators won't make the victim instead. He gave this account low priority, and all this is because of his carelessness and negligence.

No offence.
1710  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 15, 2015, 03:46:11 AM
My current profile TerraMaster: Image capture courtesy of Muhammed Zakir
Direct Link: https://archive.today/AnssY



My MinermanNC profile: Image capture courtesy of "Dnotes" The coin dev of Dnotes coin. feel free to PM him and verify this.

Direct Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20140519215559/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470155.1320    3rd post down.


Link to my website still active as listed in my profile as shown:
http://coindrone.com/

My other account, "scryptonite" also stolen at the same time. Passwords changed at basically the same time. https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

•March 08, 2015, 01:14:22 PM - MinermanNC - password changed
•March 08, 2015, 01:12:55 PM - hallared - password changed
•March 08, 2015, 01:10:48 PM - scryptonite - password changed
•March 08, 2015, 01:06:02 PM - MinermanNC - password changed

My scryptonite account profile from the web as it shows now after the hack.



Link to my website still active as listed in my profile as shown:
http://www.coinnoodle.com/

The confirmed transactions info as confirmed by "shorena"

Your deposit info:

BitCoin 19TDsep1Jhm4VDkbZK28tPze3pXhDwT8V4 0.00172746 BTC 2015-03-13 06:25:53
BTC TrxID: 2cd89c2364ca2a1aa1884c1f8f879061335132b3326e1c7dd1b48856e2e42684

BTC sent back info:

BitCoin 14GXh8khHXd8p4nQRCQdWi7fvHsNCDBkTG 0.01272746 BTC Yes 2015-03-13 11:49:46
Processed TrxID: 632c7ce982285db0cab46bb0339da771f70722e624d3bc22a2bd4250c5040c4a @ 2015-03-13 12:04:30

Yes this is an online wallet, still active, still owned by me, and as has served as my signature address for MinermanNC and now TerraMaster. Verified by shorena.

The actual backdoor Trojan found after the hack/intrusion into my PC while I slept. NOTICE the time/date and source of Trojan. Blackcatcoin wallet QT.
This scan was performed after removing hard drive and scanned using another PC before I went to bed Sunday Night.



I will post later the other Trojans and viruses I found from that wallet install, but will have to load up that hard drive and get a screenshot from malware bytes scan also showing time and dates. I'm sure it will help fill in some of the gaps of time chasing all this down. I have also posted in here earlier other Items such as the associated IP address of the hacker and so forth. Please take a second look at that stuff too.

THX for looking.

MMNC  Wink
 


I will put the address of Theymos in my profile and take snapshots of both and what? I am Theymos?

Can you explain how shorena proved that it is your own address? I can most probably disprove your claim.


As for the MSE snapshot, I had plaenty of examples. Only I switched from Windows Defender (that is its name in WIndows 8.1) to another service which offers better security.
And I think I removed the items from Quarantine.

None of them is a credible proof.
1711  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 14, 2015, 06:32:30 AM
Honestly, I am not yet sure, that you are not staging it. Most of the proof submitted here by you, can easily be faked.

This question I think is still inadequately answered:
Why did you take 3 days to realize your account was hacked?

I didn't understand how you are proving that address actually belongs to you? especially since you can't sign it? All I can see is that you are wearing that address in your profile, but you can wear anyone's address. So where is the catch?

Even if you controlled it once, what is the proof that you didn't stage it. I can, if needed, stage most of the things you did here, including finding an infected wallet for this. Scams are getting more confiscated and my estimate atm is a 60% chance that the account was actually hacked, 30% chance that you sold it to me, 10% chance that you either controlled it once and not now (or you never did).

I think it would be unfair for an administrator to reset the account to OP. It will make the one who was not very careful, get his hacked* account back, all expenses borne by me, who is not willing to do so.
1712  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 13, 2015, 03:34:48 AM
I didn't even get a reply to that PM.

He was acting pretty desperate and I subconsciously thought it was genuine. It was there fo a few days too and everything was just like a normal auction.

Well, I learned a few things at least.


Yeah, it is quite possible that the hacker is an experienced thief and did not change the password then so that no red flags were raised. All the red flags will be raised only after the unfortunate buyer gets it. Zero risk for him.

Or the other view is OP just sold it to me and the password was obviously changed only once.


I am not in a good financial position right now. If I had say a few BTC, I would have definitely given it to you. Atm, all I have is around 0.2BTC.

I am willing to sell this to you for 0.6BTC.
I would not personally sell it to him for a loss. I think there is a very good chance that the account was not hacked. The problem that I see here is that I think there is a good chance the OP is trying to scam the buyer of his former account out of the .75 BTC that it was sold for. If you were to sell it back to him at that price then he loses nothing when his scam attempt failed. If he gets it back at a discount (or for free) then he has successfully scammed for the difference. If the OP wants his account back then he should have to pay some amount above what was paid for it in order to discourage such scam attempts.

Here is a timeline of events that pretty much everyone has agreed to (all times forum time):

March 04, 2015, 03:52:18 PM - MinermanNC posts that he is having difficulty with the malware wallet. This is when his account would have allegedly was compromised.
March 05, 2015, 02:56:48 AM - This is the last post the previous owner made with his account.
March 05, 2015, 11:30:29 AM - [RAIN]Dev lists the account for sale here. This is roughly 18 hours since the account was allegedly compromised.
March 08, 2015, 01:06:02 PM - The password for MinermanNC was first changed. This is the first opportunity that the OP would notice that his account was hacked if he is in fact telling the truth. This is roughly 4 days after it was allegedly compromised and roughly 3 days after the account was listed for sale. The account has not been used for posting in ~3 days
March 08, 2015, 02:02:18 PM - The new owner makes exactly one post from the MinermanNC account. This post however was in a thread that the previous owner had not posed in the past 14 pages of his post history. I would find it unlikely that the previous owner would have seen the post unless he was looking specifically at the MinermanNC account
March 08, 2015, 11:48:56 PM - The OP creates this thread. This is roughly 10 hours after the account was sold and roughly 4 days since he last posted from the account.

I personally find it hard to believe that someone would not use their account for 4 days and then happen to attempt to login roughly 10 hours after it was sold. I think it should have been obvious not to download that wallet/program blindly. I think that you saw that the program contained malware, made the post claiming to have problems with it and then stopped posting in order to give the illusion that your account was hacked. To me this is just a lazy attempt to scam someone out of .75 BTC.

Do I have a solution? No. I hope I never have to be in a situation like this.
Do I think theymos will be able to solve this? I dont know, this was his opinion on the last case that seems more similar the longer I think about it.

I think that marcotheminer should return the account now since it was probably hacked, but everyone should give yussuf89 negative feedback for being unable to stand behind his account's actions unless he pays 50-75% of the loan principle. (This is just my opinion -- I'm not going to try to enforce it.)
I think this case is very different from the yussuf89 case. It was much more clear that yussuf89 was hacked then it is clear that MinermanNC was hacked. There is no reason to give back the account just because someone claims it was hacked, there needs to be more concrete proof. Granted, it was not smart to not get a signed message on the new owner of the account's part, but that alone should not allow the OP to get the account back if he did in fact sell it.

I have yet to see proof that the OP even ever actually owned MinermanNC, although Shorena has said that he has seen reasonable proof. I am also curious to know why the OP is not willing to publicly share such proof. He has previously sent a PM giving 1DiR25SPo84sThzTATr27EZEQZLt6hv6tG as his address, and a google forum search comes back with results with all of MinermanNC's posts so I think it is fair to say that the above address was probably at one point in the signature of MinermanNC.




I am really thankful to you for making this post. I am really running short of funds atm, and this post will be really helpful in helping me decide.

Thank you once again Smiley
1713  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 12, 2015, 05:54:26 AM
lol, you downloaded the wallet of an altcoin without even scanning it? I won't do that even if I get drunk.

Posted on the thread by someone else


Hey shorena,

If you will, look at my TerraMaster profile BTC address. What seems familiar?  Wink  Compare to the "unedited" BTC info I PM'd you, and theymos as well. Send me an undisclosed amount of a BTC a satoshi or 2, and I will tell you exactly how much you sent and the time and date and TrxID #  Cool what do they say?... "the proof is in the pudding" of course I will send the satoshi's back right away.  Grin I should have thought of this 2 days ago, could have perhaps saved us all a bunch of grief..

THX!
Lets do it!

PM me  Smiley

I also assure that I will not change or edit any posts you made. I will aslo not try to sell this account or provide as collateral to a loan till this issue is done with.
1714  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 12, 2015, 05:50:19 AM
The hacker most apparently got all your passwords by a keylogger. You don't have any decent anti-virus or security software installed on your PC? Nxt time, please don't download anything you get from here.

Till date, I have never downloaded anything to my PC from here.


Please forward the proof you sent to this account too. I would also like to check it.
1715  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 12, 2015, 05:46:33 AM
I am glad that both of you are peaceful about this and trying to work it out. More than I've seen out of a few on here. Hope you both get this resolved and nobody loses anything. GL.

I agree. I think I said this in the past, but I have to repeat this: I applaud those involved how civilized this is despite the amount of money and merde (pardon my french) is involved.

Id like to offer my advice on this. Take it or not I cant judge how important this is for each of you. Pardon me if I address you with your current accounts names it is just simpler for me and should not be take as bias.

MinermanNC I know - as you PMed me - that you are an experienced user here. I will not reveal your other account as you asked, dont worry. Yes, you should have asked for a signed message. Yes, it is understandable that you did not do so. I also agree that the price is somewhat normal. One might argue that the avatar might increase the value, but the trade was up ~3 days which should have given TerraMaster time to raise flags left and right. On the other hand: If I learned anything from past trades -> a hurried trade is rarely good a sign. Some people are just impatient, but usually I would say selling an account that is >600 days old would be a more considered decision. The asking price fell from 1.3 to .75 in those 3 days.

TerraMaster I personally think you have reasonably estblished that you once owned the account. I dont know if theymos will accept it though. There also is another problem. Lets say theymos accepts your proof, it does not clear up who sold the account. As we have seen from the time line of the events the thread which lead to the trade was opened 3 days prior to you noticing the hack. I also think its odd that the password was not reset as a change of password requires an attacker to have the old password. There are several explanations for this, among them (no order)

#1 you staged the hack
#2 your machine was compromised without you noticing and durring that time the old password was obtained by the hacker via e.g. a keylogger. They speculated you would not change the password for a while as long as they are careful in order to avoid raising flags when selling the account.

The lawn mower analogy is a nice picture, but the important difference is that in our digital world we have no faces or can easily change them. How would a judge rule in such a world?

There has been a similar situation in the recent past. It involved a loan though.

Im not sure where I am going with this. Would this be a battle it would be a draw and the longer this is dragged out the higher are the chances that the civilized conversations stop and more time is invested to solve something that might very well be unsolvable.

Do I have a solution? No. I hope I never have to be in a situation like this.
Do I think theymos will be able to solve this? I dont know, this was his opinion on the last case that seems more similar the longer I think about it.

I think that marcotheminer should return the account now since it was probably hacked, but everyone should give yussuf89 negative feedback for being unable to stand behind his account's actions unless he pays 50-75% of the loan principle. (This is just my opinion -- I'm not going to try to enforce it.)




I asked for a signed message, but he didn't reply. At the time of first transaction, however I hadn't, but later when I asked, I got no reply. I gradually forgot about it, since what I was worried of was he running of with the money.

Quickseller too asked for a signed address:

Is 1.3 your best price you can offer?
1.1 Last,but last price
1.1 would be too high for me. I have sold hero accounts for as low of ~.7 as of recently, and I would obviously want to buy for a lower price then that. In my experience it takes a long time for hero accounts to sell because of their high price and their overall prices are falling because of additional supply.

Would you be able to prove ownership of the account via a signed message?
Acc is not hacked.Last price is 1.1 and escrow service can check evrything that my acc have.People offer me .8 .9...but this is to low for my hero.

I didn't even get a reply to that PM.

He was acting pretty desperate and I subconsciously thought it was genuine. It was there fo a few days too and everything was just like a normal auction.

Well, I learned a few things at least.


Yeah, it is quite possible that the hacker is an experienced thief and did not change the password then so that no red flags were raised. All the red flags will be raised only after the unfortunate buyer gets it. Zero risk for him.

Or the other view is OP just sold it to me and the password was obviously changed only once.


I am not in a good financial position right now. If I had say a few BTC, I would have definitely given it to you. Atm, all I have is around 0.2BTC.

I am willing to sell this to you for 0.6BTC.
1716  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 11, 2015, 07:59:26 PM
A sells to B his account.

A claims it was C who sold it to B and C hacked it.

A provides proof of ownership.    (A - OP, B - me)




A sells to B.

B sells to C.

A provides account was hacked and provides proof of ownership.  (A - OP, C - me)




Of course you need to change password while selling...


This is indeed a clever way of making money, especially the first scenario.
1717  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 11, 2015, 07:50:46 PM
I regret you made a move and bought the account, despite what should have been red flags everywhere. I am not going to pay 1 red dime to get it back. You are in possession of stolen goods essentially, and it does not belong to you. "I am old school" and rely on principles in life in most things that I do. If this account is so important to you and you feel good keeping it, knowing its stolen and knowing its mine and you are comfortable with all of that and you can sleep at night with a clear conscious knowing all this... well? Best of luck to you in life.

There was 0 red flags. Only thing I skipped off was getting an address signed. He didn't respond.

No I don't have any uncomfortable feelings here. My intentions were genuine and so is yours. I lost 0.75BTC, you lost your account. We are even. Smiley
We just need to get that hacker.

Same to you Smiley
1718  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 11, 2015, 07:43:08 PM

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I have submitted the proof that it is my account, aside from the fact we all know it is. You could have passed on the deal from the person who stole it, unless you had more proof it was theirs.

Time line: Sunday morning EST. at 9.30am (March 8th) I realize my PC has been hacked. Less than 1 hour later the following passwords are changed, including scryptonite my other account.

From security report ( 4 hours ahead of my time)

•March 08, 2015, 01:14:22 PM - MinermanNC - password changed - You buy my stolen account and change password again...
•March 08, 2015, 01:12:55 PM - hallared - password changed (don't know this guy lol)
•March 08, 2015, 01:10:48 PM - scryptonite - password changed - Thief changes
•March 08, 2015, 01:06:02 PM - MinermanNC - password changed - Thief changes

Later that night at 7:30 pm I realize they stole my BCT accounts, I PM you @ ( My MinermanNC account) to let you know I am here.

You could be lying.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976969.msg10667034#msg10667034

Hacker had control before: March 05, 2015, 11:30:29 AM



Assuming everyone is honest,

Real owner was active after : March 05, 2015, 02:56:48 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10663581#msg10663581

Brief gap

Hacker has control before : March 05, 2015, 11:30:29 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976969.msg10667034#msg10667034
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Nothing happens for 3 days
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Account sold on March 08, 2015, 01:16:37 PM

Brief gap

Reports it on March 08, 2015, 11:48:56 PM

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Are you thinking what I am thinking?

Well, the hacker must be very clever then. Or is it experience?
1719  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 11, 2015, 07:37:24 PM

So, Lets say I leave my garage unlocked overnight, a thief comes in and steals My nice high end John Deer lawn Mower. He goes to the other side of the county and sells to someone, telling them oh he just needs money to pay his electric bill, and sells it dirt cheap. He doesn't show his receipt or prove to that person as to where he bought it etc. or that he actually owns it. That buyer just assumes its his and he knows it a great deal so he goes ahead and buys it anyways without proof from the thief that he is the true owner.

I spot my mower being used in some guys yard the next day, I call the police and prove that's it my stolen mower, Now are the police going to tell me well we all know its your mower but you will have to pay the guy back who bought it from the thief in order to get it back?? lol, I don't think so, that's not the way it works in life.

You took a huge chance that may have been a stolen account, sort of like buying a gun with the serial numbers scrubbed off, a little light should have went off in you head saying maybe this isn't such a good deal. Little red flags should have been popping up everywhere. But you took a chance and bought it anyways because it seemed like a good deal, as they say "to good to be true" it usually isn't ya a Hero account for peanuts.....

Because I got hacked it in no way puts the burden on me to feel I should have to reimburse you because you took a chance on buying it. Remember, if its to good to be true, it isn't.

I have submitted the proof that it is my account, aside from the fact we all know it is. You could have passed on the deal from the person who stole it, unless you had more proof it was theirs.

Time line: Sunday morning EST. at 9.30am (March 8th) I realize my PC has been hacked. Less than 1 hour later the following passwords are changed, including scryptonite my other account.

From security report ( 4 hours ahead of my time)

•March 08, 2015, 01:14:22 PM - MinermanNC - password changed - You buy my stolen account and change password again...
•March 08, 2015, 01:12:55 PM - hallared - password changed (don't know this guy lol)
•March 08, 2015, 01:10:48 PM - scryptonite - password changed - Thief changes
•March 08, 2015, 01:06:02 PM - MinermanNC - password changed - Thief changes

Later that night at 7:30 pm I realize they stole my BCT accounts, I PM you @ ( My MinermanNC account) to let you know I am here.

Almost immediately I create this thread looking for solutions and answers.

I regret you made a move and bought the account, despite what should have been red flags everywhere. I am not going to pay 1 red dime to get it back. You are in possession of stolen goods essentially, and it does not belong to you. "I am old school" and rely on principles in life in most things that I do. If this account is so important to you and you feel good keeping it, knowing its stolen and knowing its mine and you are comfortable with all of that and you can sleep at night with a clear conscious knowing all this... well? Best of luck to you in life.

I said in a Pm to you,  you could just do the right thing and return it, and move on, I would if it were the other way around.

So, you took 3 days to realize your account was stolen?

Do you think it makes sense that you install something in your PC, get it hacked and I pay the price?

(Just my views, don't get angry Smiley )

I didn't buy it for dirt cheap rates. For me, at least, it is quite a good amount. That is adequate compensation for the purchase.
(If you think that is dirt cheap, you can buy it from me for the same dirt cheap rates)
I honestly thought it a good price. Sr. members are heard to be worth 0.3-0.4. So double for Hero member. Certainly a decent rate.

There is negligence on your part, since you did not even add a negative trust to the account so that I could have spotted it. (If my account gets stolen, I will pretty sure it will go for sale and that will be the first thing I would do. I would also check Digital goods and Auctions boards for any similar account, which apparently you didn't. It was there at both places, I noticed from Recent posts of the seller yesterday)

You can buy this account from me for 0.75BTC. No strings attached.

I will try to find more about this case. Good luck to you too. Cheesy
1720  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk account hacked any way to recover? on: March 11, 2015, 07:21:56 PM
Assuming everyone is honest,

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Everything is possible, but if the account is stolen you should give back it for "free". However if he will accept to pay, better for you but if he will not accept to pay these 0.75 bitcoins I don't know what will happen. Can I ask you again if you have requested a signed message before buy the forum account or not?

No, that will be unfair to me. I lose 0.75 to a hacker, because someone else account was hacked? OP was probably careless, for instance I never install anything I get from here to my PC. I also have a good Anti-Virus installed.

I believe that OP is saying the truth and hence I will fully agree to give the account back for 0.75BTC.

There is negligence on the part of OP as far as I can see. He did not PM this account with any of the details, did not leave any trust feedback which could have been easily spotted by me.
He simply kept silent until the account was sold. He found it only after 3 days!?

All I did was I skipped asking for a signed address. He just ignored the question and I forgot to insist about it since the main worry was trust. No escrow was involved, you see. He ignores the question completely. Check the quote QuickSeller posted. He didn't reply to the part he asked for a signed address.

Proof can be submitted to mods/admin as required.

I believe, I am a bona fide purchaser of this account.

It was asked previously to post the tx of the transaction



Need exact time when OP noticed or is faking to notice when the account was hacked. OP is online. Please provide the info.

Address provided by seller: 1ApAzBgKPoJ3AYhZEph9tuJ9z8bjbpWZwX

Tx 1: before transferring account
1bc57468a72cfdeffd04c71d9914467cdd66fcd801de9368755e2045e3a66cc8  0.3BTC

Account was transferred and checking was done.

Tx 2: after
27e24d27738d7864c295622675310ec0c56d7d35e1f3256295c241e9a191be40  0.45BTC
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