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2061  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 04:03:44 AM
lol I knew I had seen those somewhere before!
2062  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 04:03:03 AM
And if you don't convert? you will just continue normal hashing at the same rates basically?

and they value a paycoin to be at 20.00 or so at the end of the first staking round? and I know I read somewhere the actual staking rate will be determined at the start of the round,,, is that correct... or close to lol

If you don't convert you can continue mining 1 satoshi. It was explained recently that maintenance fees can't go down, so it's largely a foregone conclusion.

Yes, the actual staking rate will be determined at the start of the round, but for the first round a range of 0.0075-0.01 per day has already been given and is displayed on ZenCloud.

$20 value is presumably for the "public launch", whatever that means. Nobody knows what it will be at the end of first round, obviously everybody expects "to the moon".
Another great answer, I am just making sure I am not clueless.... lol In the begining as the emails hit me from gaw, I would glance at the cloud products but already have a cex.io account since they started, although its not worth much to me now lol, so I just didn't really have any interest in gaw. Then suddenly they evolved to where we are now. Plus a friend of mine a few months back order some btc gear from them and had delivery issues. So haven't really took the time to fully understand it all now. But I think I know enough to stay away from it. But being the curious miner that I am, I feel I need to know, and a tiny bit of me wanted to try a prime just for fun. But seeing what others are showing for returns, I think ill stick to traditional scrypt mining for now  Wink
 
I may need some answers though!

thx
2063  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 03:49:55 AM
Gotta love that ridiculous maintenance fee...

Its bad as it is, when you try to sell a hashlet on the marketplace..

Ya i bought a cleverbot solo hashlet just to check it out for the last week this is how the activity log looks like....

Device Name
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (CleverHashlet)
Power
    1 MH
BTC Payout
    0.00021081 BTC
Maintenance Fee
    -0.00021080 BTC

so thats a grand total of 0.00000001 BTC in 24 hours of mining what a fucking joke.... I can lick one faucet and make more in 5 seconds
LOL this is an amazing point I haven't even seen on any other threads.
yikes! that sucks for the cost of a MH
2064  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 03:46:53 AM
lol, man your ugly  Cheesy
2065  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 03:44:13 AM
Just in case it's not completely obvious, let me point out a couple of things with this recent stream of announcements.

POW with public mining will start sometime next week. Apparently they don't have a working wallet yet, still waiting for a screenshot to be posted:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/21689/jmordica-screenshots-of-wallet-software/28

Visa debit cards will start to be issued "within the next two weeks". The actual issuing bank has not been announced yet, not to mention all the other important details.

"Multiple exchanges" have been mentioned without any dates or names.

HOWEVER.

All decisions to convert your hashlets have to be made before the end of next week, i.e. before any of the above happens. And once you've done that, there no way back, and Market will be closed for you once you've chosen your conversion option.

And if you don't convert? you will just continue normal hashing at the same rates basically?

and they value a paycoin to be at 20.00 or so at the end of the first staking round? and I know I read somewhere the actual staking rate will be determined at the start of the round,,, is that correct... or close to lol
2066  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 03:37:01 AM
So how much paycoin can one earn with a hashlet prime flashdrive 64 gh per day? anyone know? lol just curious... NO I am not buying one either Grin

If you started today, you could probably make 400HP by the end of POW. That would be 1 full PayCoin, or ~0.07 per day I guess. If you convert your Prime to a single "forever" HashStaker, you should be making 0.0075-0.01 PayCoin per day. Conversion starts soon and lasts only for 48 hours, so HURRY Smiley
wow great answer!
thx  Cool
2067  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 03:15:16 AM
So how much paycoin can one earn with a hashlet prime flashdrive 64 gh per day? anyone know? lol just curious... NO I am not buying one either Grin
2068  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 02:03:11 AM
Got to hand it to them, They sure know how to market their product and advertise, thats the driving force behind gaw. They make everything so attractive and inviting, especially for the naïve wannabe miners of the world.

 http://gear.hashbase.com/

2069  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 01:52:04 AM
GAWsome josh !!!

you show them boss!!

gunna buy even more hashsteaks now!!!

genuis!!!

Josh is the bestest!!!

thanks CEO_Gaw we love you!!

What a freak show.
Just over there reading, its absurd. I wonder what satoshi nakamoto is thinking about all this? lol or if he is studying this and has an opinion,,,, would be interesting to know what's on his mind. Somewhere out there I am sure he is watching this, probably chuckling a little too
Satoshi wouldn't understand paycoin. It was shopped around the globe remember and it was beyond the comprehension of all devs. Satoshi is in hiding because he saw that Josh was coming and that his lifes work (bitcoin) would be just destroyed in an instant. Basically he disappeared to hide from all the public shame. Poor bugger i mean he didn't have a chance... nobody does when you have features like hybrid flex powered by thermonuclear fuckin capabilities. It won't be long before North Korea wants in on all the thermonuclear stuff.... that shit is ace!!!!
That's absolutely GAWsome! especially the hybrid flex lol satoshi probably thinking what a big waste of other peoples money going on over there"  Cool I think Josh see's himself as the next satoshi in the world (or the first if ya subscribe on HT) never know maybe satoshi is one of the early investors now holding tons of controllers, the ones that have the thermonuclear capability's   Cheesy
 
Edit: I heard they thought satoshi was a North Korean by the way" lol
2070  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 06, 2014, 01:09:07 AM
GAWsome josh !!!

you show them boss!!

gunna buy even more hashsteaks now!!!

genuis!!!

Josh is the bestest!!!

thanks CEO_Gaw we love you!!

What a freak show.
Just over there reading, its absurd. I wonder what satoshi nakamoto is thinking about all this? lol or if he is studying this and has an opinion,,,, would be interesting to know what's on his mind. Somewhere out there I am sure he is watching this, probably chuckling a little too
2071  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 05, 2014, 03:14:48 PM
Typical, another newbie troll ...

Don't you feel guilty promoting a ponzi just because you're invested in it and don't want it to collapse? Smiley

Dismissing anyone who sees through the smokes and mirrors as a 'troll' isn't going to change the truth. It's blindingly obvious now (not that it wasn't obvious early on) that GAW's operations are ponzi-like and they conduct no substantial operations at all, and the sole mechanism by which anyone has achieved ROI is via passing along the bag to another sucker.

-Sahra

Yep its true i'm a newbie... lets not forget that i was invested with GAW. If you really want to know i had the free 10GH at the start. I waited 5 days and watched then though hmm might grab some zens. I had 90MH in zen approx and still liked what i saw. Then i got some primes... at peak i had 330MH of prime, I didn't want paycoin but i was doing zen and double dipping into hashpoints in the chance this side coin had some traction.

When i saw the nazi forum behavior and the only comments on the forums from people that appeared to be in a crazy pot induced state of euphoria i mean come the fuck on.. GAWsome, Go Josh, Blow me Josh, Josh you're the man... Josh o Josh you don't need to prove anything we love you.... i became sick. I realised that its not normal for the world to be that tilted on the side of good there is always balance and no negativity means heavy moderating. I got scared when i saw his slow plan on cashtakers and bailed and i'm fucking glad i did. I do thank josh for breaking me into the world of ponzi its taught me a alot and how to be more vigilant and skeptical.

I had around $14-$15k invested at one point and while it wouldn't break the bank it sickened me to know if i was 1 person 100 others like me made him $1 million. I do feel remorse though... i know some poor bastard has my primes and zens. What helps me sleep is hoping that either GAW bought them back from me or one of their top 10 champions that are in on it got them.

So newbie maybe but i lived the GAWful experience and didn't get the first 3 months of plundering from later investors. Newbie me if you like i don't give a shit but it doesn't change the experience i had and what my opinion is. I guess in 6 months one of us will be a dick right? I'll happily apologise if i'm wrong... will you?
Wow, buy me 15k in scrypt mining gear I will make you plenty of good ole BTC  Wink
2072  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 05, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
I have read one page on this post and I could not read anymore.  A lot of you I am not sure your either bitter or children.

How many of you have supported a coin that lets be honest has failed?

How many of you have lost money?

I bet a lot of you.

Well I know GAW customers who have not lost any money.  In fact until a month ago.  Everyone was making money at GAW.

Now Josh and his team knows as well as most of you know.  Most pools and coins are slowing down or not making any profit now.   So they have created a new coin and not just a coin a system where they is no difficulty.  They have put millions into this (unlike all past coins) Yes its all new (and some old) yes they is a chance it will fail.  But with the money behind GAW they are trying to bring crypto to the masses.

This is all good for the Crypto World.

So grow up or step back.

Buy Fuji coins lol, enough for the masses and the whole world and hell of a lot cheaper too!
2073  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 05, 2014, 02:22:45 PM
Maybe some jurisdictions will charge GAW with bait and switch. People signed up for bitcoin and scrypt mining and now practically being forced to stake for some yet releast ShitCoin.

Yes , This is how I have been perceiving the whole deal here. But it seems many are onboard with it Huh I guess some people can sell ice cubes to Eskimo's
2074  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 02:35:30 PM
So what up with their prized hashtalk? ddos? The GAW flock must be climbing the walls with anxieties right about now lol

I just got into HT .
its good was using old link apparently.  Undecided

thx
2075  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 02:21:36 PM
So what up with their prized hashtalk? ddos? The GAW flock must be climbing the walls with anxieties right about now lol
2076  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
So, it looks like Primes are going for about $55 a MH right now. I wonder what the pricing will be like tonight? I wonder if it's worth holding out and seeing if it doesn't spike into the $60 - $70 range.

I have a few more Primes to offload, but trying to figure out the best time to dump them. I could have made more BTC if I hadn't liquidated the majority earlier, but my crystal ball was broken.  Grin

Talk about making money "hand over fist" lol
2077  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 04:42:41 AM
To me it just seems like they are creating ways to keep people buying more and more and not having to pay them out for long periods of time...

I can't believe people are so blinded by greed that they can't see how they are being taken advantage of.
yes it sure would appear as such ....
2078  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 04:42:00 AM
I'm just bummed out cause my gridseed black 25 MH scrypt miner I ordered Monday for a Friday delivery won't be here until Tuesday now due to UPS backlog from black Friday and cyber Monday oh well

k, out of here for the night  Cool
2079  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 04:37:03 AM
Shh don't make too much noise, I am selling my hashlets Smiley

lol
2080  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 04, 2014, 04:35:37 AM
Does anyone know actually how many people are truly signed up with GAW for this whole deal? I know we have heard a lot of numbers in terms of sales etc. but how many actual miners or accounts I should say are there... in other words, is it a very small world in terms of headcount lol
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