and the competition continue UNO managed to step ahead i hope shortterm   we had a big whale sell like 7% of total coins as reason we did fall from 600k marketcap to 300k and now slowly recovering (hint hint cheap DMD ...) what happend with UNO why the loss? I'd like for you to explain to me (feel free to PM so as not to derail thread) how is this 50% interest scheme of yours considered sustainable? Genuine curiousity. |
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A properly set up .conf file is by far the best approach and can increase your security by directing your client to only connect to trusted peers.
Curious. Are you stating that you should be explicit about what nodes to connect to? The only two instances I can think of off the top of my head where you could have problems is if: 1) Every peer you're connected to is on a forked chain. 2) Every peer you're connected to will not relay transactions. Each of these would seem unlikely, so am I missing something? Missing nothing. No need to be explicit (i.e connect instead of addnode) unless that is your preference. The security of it all comes from not having a generic rpc pass. |
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Excellent responses, and yes, as Siameze just said, if you are already backing up your wallet as you have to do with each and every coin.... what is the issue with editing the .conf file? It takes only a minute. I'd assume if one cannot find where to place a new config file, they also have never even backed up their wallet. That's a scary thought.  you don't need to to find that folder to back up your wallet. under the "File" menu of the app there is an option for "Backup Wallet" that just makes a copy of the wallet.dat to wherever you point it to save. Yes, I know that exists but I can't remember the last time I used QT. You can also do it in CLI in a similar way. It's a good idea to know the location of this folder anyway so if bigger problems present themselves one can know where to find things, such as debug.log that help pin down problems a bit quicker. |
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Excellent responses, and yes, as Siameze just said, if you are already backing up your wallet as you have to do with each and every coin.... what is the issue with editing the .conf file? It takes only a minute. I'd assume if one cannot find where to place a new config file, they also have never even backed up their wallet. That's a scary thought. I handily demonstrated the importance of this to one of my friends last year by taking all his BTC from his wallet while I was on vacation in Florida. (Yes of course they were returned ) To this day, he makes regular backups and never uses the default .conf file any longer. |
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@siameze As always, thanks for the detailed information. I had no idea about the security issue. Seems to me that the .conf issue is a non-issue then if it's that easy. The community has proved that it is certainly more than willing to assist any newcomer with issue resolution.
I am always happy to help anyone understand it all better, and members of the UNO community can contact me for support anytime and I am glad to assist free of charge. Sure DNS is shitty for peer discovery but we cannot change the architecture of the internet at a snap of our fingers. As it stands, taking the few minutes needed to make a proper .conf file is just how it works for now. This isn't limited to UNO, but applies to all clone coins. You can argue if you like that other clients just connect, and that may be true but a great majority are still using that shaky irc peer discovery method we mentioned a few posts back. It pleased me greatly to see that excised from UNO core so I no longer had to do it manually before building. EDIT: @FK I missed your reply while formulating my own. Agreed, excellent analysis. |
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So what method of peer discovery does UNO use? Is there a better method out there? If so, we need to utilize that method for Unobtanium. Problem solved.
UNO uses the same method as BTC: https://github.com/unobtanium-official/Unobtanium/blob/master/src/net.cpp Line 1069 or so starts the magic. irc peer discovery was removed in bitcoin here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/c2efd981aa14e94cce4a0a888b6ee1f4e4347924 so UNO clients don't use this outdated method of discovery anymore, which can cause more problems than it solves. If you were around BTC in the early days, clients would often get k-lined for connect/disconnect issues. A properly set up .conf file is by far the best approach and can increase your security by directing your client to only connect to trusted peers. @siameze For the minority of people having this .conf issue, is there anyway to create an .exe install file that contains only the .conf file; for placing it where it needs to be? Anything is "possible" but automatically creating the file and placing it in the proper directory goes against good security practices, since you need to specify a unique password in the rpc field so you don't get your coins stolen using generic responses. (Ask the Ethereum users that found this out the hard way last week.) Some things just aren't meant to be "engineered in". I have helped so many users do this on a variety of coin platforms. It honestly takes 2-5 minutes to learn and is something you likely won't forget in the future. I mean, most bitcoin users certainly know where their wallet.dat is stored so they can make backups right? S.O.P. is to make a backup every 100 tx's and if you know where that file is, then one should be able to pull up or paste a .conf file in the exact same folder. Knowing this is just part of knowing how bitcoin works. EDIT: Also bear in mind, you don't have to use the location specified by your client, you can make any directory you please your data directory by adding flags: -datadir=/path/to/directory -conf=/path/to/.conf |
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So what method of peer discovery does UNO use? Is there a better method out there? If so, we need to utilize that method for Unobtanium. Problem solved.
UNO uses the same method as BTC: https://github.com/unobtanium-official/Unobtanium/blob/master/src/net.cpp Line 1069 or so starts the magic. irc peer discovery was removed in bitcoin here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/c2efd981aa14e94cce4a0a888b6ee1f4e4347924 so UNO clients don't use this outdated method of discovery anymore, which can cause more problems than it solves. If you were around BTC in the early days, clients would often get k-lined for connect/disconnect issues. A properly set up .conf file is by far the best approach and can increase your security by directing your client to only connect to trusted peers. |
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Gekko: I value your input & your influence, let's break this down as a community and objectively analyze each characteristic of UNO as it stands now, both positive and negative. Preferably, each bold item will be addressed by someone with the knowledge to address it properly. 1) Gekko's Mac wallet will not sync and he does not want to bother with learning how to find a recently hidden folder and paste a .conf file. He doesn't want to do this because he doesn't think he should have to, we should have a dev who can say within a month, "There, I found the issue and fixed it, re-download the wallet Gekko." That is a fair point, but two things need to be addressed here. If 100 Mac users download the wallet, how many of them will find their clients to sync fully and properly from the first attempt? A few users have responded just in the last day stating that their Mac wallets work fine, even on a virtual machine. On that note, I personally have had 0 problems with Windows wallet or Android. I have always found connections within seconds of starting the wallet, the blockchain syncs at a very impressive rate, I am able to import private keys from brain wallets, backup procedures and sending/receiving funds is flawless, transactions confirm quickly and reliably. For me it meets no criteria of the word 'broken', but I suppose it's the reliability of the Mac .conf directories that are in question? Why do .conf node directories become insufficient in the first place, and how can that be prevented? Does this ever happen with bitcoin, dogecoin, NXT or any of the other top clients? 2) Liquidity (Gekko addressed this in a recent reddit comment). It is not an issue right now that $200 moves the price, that is 0.1% of the market cap, $3,000,000 also moves the bitcoin price. The markets are healthy and if people want to acquire UNO or leave the market they can. Put 1% of UNO for sale at 0.006 and it will be gone in a day or two. Put a buy order for 1% of UNO at 0.007 or 0.008 and it may be filled in a day. We are operating on more exchanges and have more trade pairs than probably 90 or 95% of cryptocurrencies. We consistently have very respectable volume, as I detailed in a recent reddit post about 5.5% of all coins have traded hands in the last month alone. (link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unobtanium/comments/3ja8xb/exchange_volume_totals_past_30_days_accumulation/) If anyone can compile data of how UNO has ranked of all 600+ cryptocurrencies in volume over the last 1 year, 3 months, and 1 month, that would be fantastic. That may be very difficult though, sites like coinmarketcap only seem to allow you to sort by 24h volume, which fluctuates for all currencies significantly. 3) Strength of Network & hashrate. Unobtanium currently has the second-highest hashrate of all 600+ cryptos. That is incredible! http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency?sort=hashrate&dir=desc 4) Developer. We payed for Android wallets recently, Cryptapus has given us many great features at cryptap.us, LearnMiner runs a great looking website (although I messaged him 2-4 weeks ago about removing Comkort from the website, I got to no response and it is still listed there.) It appears to me that stuff just gets done when people want it, with UNO valued at $280,000 people have incentive to expand the features and maintain progress (albeit gradual) so they either pay for it or do it themselves. However, do we have someone who's responsible for core development and keeping things running smoothly? Who got merged mining working properly earlier this year? Who published the mac and windows clients?Peer discovery isn't perfect, mainly because the majority of coins replicated from bitcoin carry over the broken irc peer discovery method. Seriously, if I connect to irc.lfnet.org I can see every flavor of shitcoin representing in their respective channels. I usually snip this functionality before building. More info on how this works can be seen here: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/2027/how-does-the-bitcoin-client-make-the-initial-connection-to-the-bitcoin-network/2030#2030 |
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Yep, fun to mock me out. Fun to explain to me how I have to pop open the hood to make your shitty car run and fun to mock me because I feel entitled to a car where you just turn the key and drive off. Big fun.
UNO is broken. That's why it is down. Nobody buys a broken coin. Mac users don't pop the hood any more often than Bently owners do.
Pull your heads out.
You are mocked due to your fun-loving attitude and interpersonal communication skills. Since UNO is broken, do what any unsatisfied consumer would do: Return it to the store, take your refund and get the hell on down the road to your next adventure! Cheers! Also: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque  |
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DONATIONS ARE NOW CLOSED. Thanks to all!The Staff of HamRadioCoin has just donated a total of $ 91.78 to amateur friend KP4MCR of Puerto Rico.
The total is the revenue from the conversion of HamRadioCoin donated for this cause and converted into higher price for single HAM sold at 8pm UTC on 4 September 2015 between our three main markets of exchange with Bitcoin.
In this case the price for single HAM was taken from Cryptsy.com to 0.00002400 BTC.All info: http://www.hamradiocoin.com/hamradiocoin-team-offers-help-to-erika-victim-in-pr/ Warms my heart to see crypto communities pull together and help members out like this. o7 to all that contributed to this effort. Having values and integrity is what sets your HAM community apart from others. |
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More of that is needed, people that are intuitive enough to search for answers. I have no qualms at all helping anyone or staying up all night if need be to help a fellow community member get their shit together. People that demand answers and have inflated senses of entitlement rarely get that luxury.
In businesses that I assist, this is a daily problem. Intuition is not the problem, it is a function of pure laziness. Not to be too much of an old-timer, but much of the current generation growing up has never had to do anything for themselves because their helicoptor mums have done everything. Pure ignorance. When a person expects to receive a trophy for showing up to the last football match, but has never been present at a single practice, he / she sure as hell will not be able nor willing to solve a simple problem like putting a .conf file in a directory. If you don't build your dreams, then you will likely be left building on the dreams of others. |
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HAM on Cryptsy! O.o This is ultra sweet news! how many coins do you think big vern bought before he listed this shit? maybe 15%? I dunno, how much of your brain did you use before making that post, maybe 15% ? Eat a Snickers dude LOL Jk lol. This isn't a good evening to rile me in these forums. Plus you already know my fault tolerance for stupidity. |
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HAM on Cryptsy! O.o This is ultra sweet news! how many coins do you think big vern bought before he listed this shit? maybe 15%? I dunno, how much of your brain did you use before making that post, maybe 15% ? |
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I'm on a mac and my wallet is working fine....using Pnoch's build v0.10.0.0-gf8e2039-preMM (64-bit)
I wrote out a post for him a few pages back on how to get it to work. Its very easy: put FallingKnife's unobtanium.conf file in user/Library/ApplicationSupport/Unobtanium and it will work.
The only funny business is that with the latest few versions of OSX it defaults to hide the library folder and you have to do something to make it visible. anyone can google "show library folder OSX" and find out how to do this though. its not fucking rocket science, but i dunno, maybe all these words i am saying just do not register in mind of a cave man?
I agree that in a perfect world it should work straight away "out of the box" but this isn't a perfect world and mac users are 3rd in line for experimental software like unobtanium-qt
just please, gekko, if your little monkey mind can get this to work, please continue shutting the fuck up and, if you must speak up, only talk about things related to unobtanium/trading. also ask yourself how many drinks you've had before you click "Post." You can always just leave the tab open, close ur macbook, and re-read it in the morning.
I have added you to my btctalk web of trust simply because these comments prove you have some brains, Krypto Superdog. Even for a mac user  lol. i'm just a guy who knows how to google stuff and sign up for forums when i don't find the answer. More of that is needed, people that are intuitive enough to search for answers. I have no qualms at all helping anyone or staying up all night if need be to help a fellow community member get their shit together. People that demand answers and have inflated senses of entitlement rarely get that luxury. Masturbation works out of the box, m8. No need for women! /s |
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I'm on a mac and my wallet is working fine....using Pnoch's build v0.10.0.0-gf8e2039-preMM (64-bit)
I wrote out a post for him a few pages back on how to get it to work. Its very easy: put FallingKnife's unobtanium.conf file in user/Library/ApplicationSupport/Unobtanium and it will work.
The only funny business is that with the latest few versions of OSX it defaults to hide the library folder and you have to do something to make it visible. anyone can google "show library folder OSX" and find out how to do this though. its not fucking rocket science, but i dunno, maybe all these words i am saying just do not register in mind of a cave man?
I agree that in a perfect world it should work straight away "out of the box" but this isn't a perfect world and mac users are 3rd in line for experimental software like unobtanium-qt
just please, gekko, if your little monkey mind can get this to work, please continue shutting the fuck up and, if you must speak up, only talk about things related to unobtanium/trading. also ask yourself how many drinks you've had before you click "Post." You can always just leave the tab open, close ur macbook, and re-read it in the morning.
I have added you to my btctalk web of trust simply because these comments prove you have some brains, Krypto Superdog. Even for a mac user |
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Can anyone with a Mac let us know whether or not the Mac wallet works for them?
Gekko is claiming that Mac wallets have not worked for months and nobody is doing anything about it. I have a feeling his node directly is bad and he just doesn't want to spend 20 minutes to learn how to add nodes, but maybe I'm wrong.
You would be correct. If he would spend half the time learning/doing something as spewing vitriol then perhaps things would work out. See my comments on the guild for further insight. This has been explained 100 times, and the rest of cryptoverse can do this without issue if they really want to. |
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Sorry for my rant, you and I have had many conversations about encryption, etc. and the restrictions placed on HAM operators regarding it's use stopped me cold :/
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Throwing a dice is easy, but converting it into a WIF private key isn't.
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Is there anyone who can give me some other suggestions?
You're on a real operating system, right? If so, you can use bc, the calculator. $ bc
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9FEE7990BF5 My paper wallets have been created from dice rolls. Chinese ones, so I'm free from any tinkering from the NSA . I like the bc method best, it reeks of simplicity. Thanks for the share.  |
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Yes I am very upset with your friends at the FCC, that they should even think about making it a crime to experiment with a device that you own. DD-WRT, tomato, et all were mainstays of my education on how things work when I was a kid. While others my age read sports magazines, I was down at Radio Shack buying whatever new book Forrest Mims III had contributed to. Hams are part of thee original hacker community too, implementing this would be a disservice to your community imho. |
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Believe it or bot, I have been following development of that project since 2012 IMZ. coinffeine is really working hard to make their service the best it can be. |
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