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nice it will be good to see another round up and hashing!!
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will we have to pay importation charges fi you ship from Hong Kong?
lil offtopic but I'm also wondering that. How can dealextreme send you a 100 50cents packages for free but a 2lb package from HK cost you 74bucks #everybodylies DX and other Chinese vendors are supported by the Chinese government in terms of shipping costs. this |
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as a quick aside. diff is set to move up late fri the 29th. It looks like the jump will be around 609 to 711 about 16%. if that is true the knc earns about .39 coins a day.
.39 coins a day from the 30th to the 11th would be about 4.8 coins. or about 5k . based on the test listing we could get 22k. I am thinking we have to sell one.
Whether on ebay with the skrill-BTC pay option or on another site.
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Please guys do not insult Josh he is my hero. I never been banned by anyone until he banned me for life. from his forums. No warnings just a ban.
Dream on, I banned you. under performed.
English teacher..... good to know. thanks you helped me out quite a bit. |
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So getting 20 k with out a charge back seems possible. BTC payment can be forced or the buyer needs to wait for weeks for the gear. the full cancelled ad is here http://www.ebay.com/itm/KNC-Kncminer-Jupiter-Bitcoin-Miner-550-GH-s-in-Hand-USA-Ships-FedEx-/151176625724?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT BTW BTC is over 1005 at coinbase. https://coinbase.com/chartsOh I don't beg but I spent a lot of time trying to figure out a chargeback free ebay sale today. the item needs to be a) over 15000 usd b) you need a skrill account c) must be Buy it now and it helps to have best offer d) you are allowed to offer BTC as preferred payment and one electronic payment in this case skrill. my skrill account is capped at 15 k . so if I sell over 15k with skrill i would need 2 payments with a long delay in between. thus any normal buyer would pay in BTC which stops chargebacks. tips please 1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x this will help our selloff of gear in the future. even if we wait on this one. |
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the offer history. I am going to be gone for a few days I ended the listing as I feared someone would pay the 32222 asking price is I left it up!  and the ad  |
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and we just were offered 23000. soo I am shutting the test ad down since somebody may buy the fucking thing at the 32000 asking price.
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Please guys do not insult Josh he is my hero. I never been banned by anyone until he banned me for life. from his forums. No warnings just a ban.
Oh he had my money since Jan 2013. no machines no hash. HE took a hundred bucks for an update on a canceled order. then transferred it to an order I did not want the upgrade on. No refund. even though he said on his forum 'you will get your hundred back'.
every day I pray for josh so that he knows what i know.
But all you BFL haters let tell why I love him and bfl. I realized I would be screwed and would not be able to best them in a game of internet forum tag long before I was banned.
So I said I have to get even a different way. My first move was buying AM stock back in the day when friedcat was running for president I made some decent coin. I even tossed a few bucks at bfl for upgrades on 2 orders of jallys. that turned into another 200 down the drain. I then said oh bitminter is taking an add for cloud hashing I will try that. more coin tossed and why BFL did not ship to cloudhashing on time. (amazing how The BFL influence spreads out.) I still had profits fro the am stock. I purchased some knc group buy which had made money and I made the decision that worked out well for me. I decided to sell AM sticks on ebay. So what did I do from july to today I sold about 2000 am sticks. always at a good price and always fast shipping. I used the BFL name over and over and over . AM sticks in hand not bfl pre order and I sold like a motherfucker. my ebay sales were great I gave the best deals possible always thinking of how I would make up for the bfl fuck over. Well today I am fully ahead and I started many happy miners .. All because of JOSH and BFL.. I will always think fondly of him whenever I think of bitcoin. Also if anyone on the forum feels screwed around just mention well at least it is not as bad as BFL and the person perks up. I also truly believe that they are mad genius talent at being soooo very nasty to the rest of us we the BTC world do better by each other since no one wants to think they are as bad as BFL. So I say to you Josh keep on keepin on. I can't wait to see what you do with my 49GH cloud mining order that is due whenever.
My goal is to always change orders and never get gear. just be waiting for the next gen. I will attempt to set the record of the longest preorder in bfl history. It is great fun.. But after this post they will most likely cancel the 534 dollar order and not refund me a dime. But who knows they have soo many good moves.. like a great chess player 4 5 6 7 moves in advance. .
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well I just got a 8300 offer on the listing. I am going to pull it down in a few hours as I do not want some one to buy it before we have fully voted.
8300 would be too low.
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correct. and my skrill account is set at 15k so for them to pay with skrill they would need to wait for it to clear and pay part of it in BTC. that would mean weeks before they get it.
the down side is they bid and we accept and they never pay. that would cost use 50-250 usd not sure if the 50 dollar fee deal works if the buyer never pays.
We could list it for a more normal number of 24,000.00 and accept an offer of 20,000 plus . I hold the btc until it is shipped then distribute it.
I can provide id to dz for full vetting.
There shouldn't be any fee if the item is not paid for, you simply open a ticket saying that the item wasn't paid. yeah you would be right but I am not so sure as I just set up the skrill account today. If you want to list it since you handled all the btc you need to setup a skrill account .. they need a:ssn b:cc c: bank account they set your limit at 15k in or out, so if we sell this for say 20k on a best offer the buyer must pay with BTC. This gets rid of the chargeback issue. So if you want to look up on your ebay if you can do a skrill for payments check it out. oh the listing must be buy it now. I put in a best offer option. Since it helps a buyer decide. If we list this at 24 or 25 k and take 20 k or more this seems like it should be safe for us. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151176625724&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT the listing I slapped together but the key part is this: Payments:
Skrill, Pay on pickup | See details
Returns:
No returns or exchanges, but item is covered by eBay Buyer Protection.
Guarantee:
| Learn more
Get the item you ordered or get your money back.
and this Payment:
Paying via bitcoin is prefered. Bitcoin to USD rate will be determined by Coinbase sell price at close of auction. If I do not receive payment in 48 hours I will award to the next highest bidder. I will provide wallet address to the winner. I will not ship until payment clears SKRILL. So if you choose SKRILL there will be a long delay. weeks. If you pay with BTC shipping will be the next business day. |
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correct. and my skrill account is set at 15k so for them to pay with skrill they would need to wait for it to clear and pay part of it in BTC. that would mean weeks before they get it.
the down side is they bid and we accept and they never pay. that would cost use 50-250 usd not sure if the 50 dollar fee deal works if the buyer never pays.
We could list it for a more normal number of 24,000.00 and accept an offer of 20,000 plus . I hold the btc until it is shipped then distribute it.
I can provide id to dz for full vetting.
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go to this ebay listing. see that I kind of force the buyer to use BTC. make suggestions. and if some crazy mother fucker buys it right now we are selling it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151176625724 it has to be a buy it now for me to list it with no paypal. my skrill limits are 15000 so they can't pay it with skrill. they kind of have to pay in btc. |
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Let's take a minute here to define EXACTLY what we are talking about here otherwise a vote is meaningless. When I first read this thread and voted the above quotes were what I based my vote on, But with this as an option as a price point ant miner is selling a non auction right here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348747.0 they ask 4.25 BTC for a 180 gh machine. this is a flat price. seems to me we could list our 1 for 11 BTC it would be a bargain compared to the 180 gh x 3 = 12.75 for 540 gh for unproved tech. while we would be 11 BTC for 550gh proven tech. I would probably change my vote. Starting at 20 or 25K but then considering 11btc (11K) is half of what I voted on. In order to make this valid I believe we need to set a price that we sell at, anything less than that and we keep hashing. Its hard to vote when the target is changing by 50% or more+1 (incidentally, 1 share) I agree well at least the problem is an upside problem (btc went to the MOON) rather then an other type of problem. After we get the next dividend we will have more house money making decision a bit easier. In a way there are 3 votes not 2 .. 1)do a safe btc auction on bitcointalk----get 10-12 safe coins pros no returns con less money 2) do a risky ebay auction ------------- get 18-21 risky coins pros more money can't stop a return 3) fuck it just hash man hash------------ the next diff should be under 700 mill we would earn 5 btc maybe 6 from dec 1 to dec 13 Good point Phillip Before I can finalize my vote I need to know what I am voting on, which was the only point I was trying to make. I'm not opposed to any of the above options, would just like to know which one is being voted on so I can make the best decision. So I guess the first decision to be made is which auction would we do? Once that is known the vote to keep or sell could be made as we would then know the expected return from the sale. Are there any other options or possibilities that should be put forward before a decision is made? I think I can force BTC as the only option for an EBAY BUYER. I am working on this right now. Give me an hour. If this works I will post. |
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Let's take a minute here to define EXACTLY what we are talking about here otherwise a vote is meaningless. When I first read this thread and voted the above quotes were what I based my vote on, But with this as an option as a price point ant miner is selling a non auction right here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348747.0 they ask 4.25 BTC for a 180 gh machine. this is a flat price. seems to me we could list our 1 for 11 BTC it would be a bargain compared to the 180 gh x 3 = 12.75 for 540 gh for unproved tech. while we would be 11 BTC for 550gh proven tech. I would probably change my vote. Starting at 20 or 25K but then considering 11btc (11K) is half of what I voted on. In order to make this valid I believe we need to set a price that we sell at, anything less than that and we keep hashing. Its hard to vote when the target is changing by 50% or more+1 (incidentally, 1 share) I agree well at least the problem is an upside problem (btc went to the MOON) rather then an other type of problem. After we get the next dividend we will have more house money making decision a bit easier. In a way there are 3 votes not 2 .. 1)do a safe btc auction on bitcointalk----get 10-12 safe coins pros no returns con less money 2) do a risky ebay auction ------------- get 18-21 risky coins pros more money can't stop a return 3) fuck it just hash man hash------------ the next diff should be under 700 mill we would earn 5 btc maybe 6 from dec 1 to dec 13 |
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yeah my post was a quote of I think bitter dog's photo. it is really easy . I am pushing 2.68 now. with 1 stick. these furies want for power I am going to use an adjustable meanwell psu and an anker 10 port hub I will try to get the usb 3.0 hub to be at 5.1 or 5.2 volts a port and .9 amps each. I have moved my stick from 2.29 up to 2.68 and I just sold off the rest of my AM sticks. I pulled them off the hub causing my BF to jump from 2.62 to 2.68
I am thinking they really want power.
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as I see it ebay is risky. while I have the 50 max cap on the fees Which is nice . I could be on the hook for 20k on a charge back . an ebay listing would need to be inventive to protect the seller. btc is a must transferred to our group btc address and give the goods. the charge back risk is very high. If this sold on ebay at 15k and everything tanks not good in a month. read this listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/KNC-Kncminer-Jupiter-Bitcoin-Miner-550-GH-s-in-Hand-USA-Ships-FedEx-/291022844481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c2503241If I listed this way and it goes to 16k and 1 btc is 1000 usd we get 16 coins. if he puts the 16 BTC in the account as directed. and the coop ships it to him. I am not so sure if he wants to fuck me in 30 days that he can't. My ebay business has been around a long time I am not so sure I want to put it at risk. for 16BTC vs 11 BTC since I only get about 10 percent of the sale. I have 19 of the 200 shares. so of the extra 4 or 5 BTC on ebay . I would see an extra 400 or 500 bucks. I do a lot of sales on ebay. I have a shitload of accounts that could be attacked on a chargeback. BUT an auction on this site I like start it at 8btc for 1 machine . it should go to 10-12 btc. no return risk and we still have the other machine to mine with. my thoughts are this is a better way to sell. It also means we will be half right and half wrong. What I mean by this is either selling both machines or keeping both machines maxes our gain or loss. an all or nothing concept. while keeping one and selling one averages the gain or loss. |
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a very clear photo on page 33 post 647
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