Today WeEx is going to make a statement. Whatever it means. I'm really sorry about your people.

Will Rd 17 mine with BTCGuild PPS or PPLNS? If neither which other pools are being considered? Thanks!

I finally got a reply about bulk buy of Antminer U1's from Bitmain yesterday, was during the auction.

and his reply was:

did he ask you same questions?

Edit. after giving my opinion he never got back to me.

Todays Diff jump will be to around 610 mill actual number 609.4 mill.  It should be was under 20 %  the last jump under 20% was Aug. 3rd.

Long term it may not be a trend but short term it helps  r5 r6  r9 r10 r11 r12  a lot.

Coins are 482 btc!!!

https://coinbase.com/buys

Difficulty History

Date   --------------Difficulty---------   Change-------Hash Rate

Nov 05 2013………510,929,738……….   30.70%……..3,657,378 GH/s
Oct 26 2013……...390,928,788……...   46.02%……..2,798,377 GH/s

Oct 16 2013……….   267,731,249……...   41.45%…….   1,916,495 GH/s
Oct 06 2013……….   189,281,249……...   27.19%…….   1,354,928 GH/s

Sep 25 2013………148,819,200………..32.13%…...   1,065,289 GH/s
Sep 14 2013………112,628,549……….   29.56%….…..806,227 GH/s

Sep 04 2013….……86,933,018…………32.22%……..622,291 GH/s
Aug 24 2013………65,750,060………….29.40%……..470,657 GH/s

Aug 13 2013………50,810,339………….   35.88%……..363,715 GH/s
Aug 03 2013….   37,392,766………..19.63%……..267,668 GH/s

Jul 22 2013………..   31,256,961………..19.47%……..223,746 GH/s
Jul 11 2013………..26,162,876………..22.63%……..187,281 GH/s

Jun 29 2013……….21,335,329…………10.32%……...52,724 GH/s
Jun 16 2013………19,339,258………….23.92%……...138,436 GH/s

Jun 05 2013………..15,605,633………..28.41%……..111,709 GH/s
May 25 2013…….…12,153,412…………  8.64%……. 86,998 GH/s

May 12 2013……...11,187,257   ……….11.03%……..80,082 GH/s
Apr  30 2013…....   10,076,293 ……….12.28%……..72,129 GH/s

Apr 17 2013……….   8,974,296…………..16.96%…….   64,241 GH/s
Apr 05 2013……….   7,673,000…………..14.59%…...   54,925 GH/s

Mar 24 2013.………6,695,826………….    8.13%……..47,931 GH/s
Mar 14 2013…….…4,847,647………….10.98%……..   34,701 GH/s

Mar 01 2013….……4,367,876……….….19.63%……..31,266 GH/s
Feb 18 2013………   3,651,012…………..11.47%………26,135 GH/s

Feb 05 2013………   3,275,465…………..10.33%…….   23,447 GH/s
Jan 23 2013………..2,968,775…………. -8.64%…….   21,251 GH/s

Jan 08 2013……….3,249,550………….  9.06%……..   23,261 GH/s
Dec 26 2012……….2,979,637…………-11.59%…….   21,329 GH/s

Dec 10 2012……….3,370,182…………-2.00%   ……...24,125 GH/s
Nov 26 2012………3,438,909…………2.08%……….   24,617 GH/s

Nov 12 2012   3,368,767   1.95%   24,115 GH/s
Oct 30 2012   3,304,356   7.55%   23,654 GH/s

Oct 16 2012   3,072,322   0.58%   21,993 GH/s
Oct 03 2012   3,054,628   6.65%   21,866 GH/s

Sep 19 2012   2,864,141   6.31%   20,502 GH/s
Sep 06 2012   2,694,048   10.38%   19,285 GH/s

Aug 25 2012   2,440,643   11.40%   17,471 GH/s
Aug 12 2012   2,190,866   7.57%   15,683 GH/s

Jul 30 2012   2,036,671   9.12%   14,579 GH/s
Jul 17 2012   1,866,391   6.56%   13,360 GH/s

Jul 04 2012   1,751,455   1.44%   12,537 GH/s
Jun 20 2012   1,726,567   9.06%   12,359 GH/s

Jun 07 2012   1,583,178   -0.50%   11,333 GH/s
May 24 2012   1,591,075   -8.20%   11,389 GH/s

May 09 2012   1,733,208   14.89%   12,407 GH/s
Apr 27 2012   1,508,590   -4.39%   10,799 GH/s

Apr 12 2012   1,577,913   -2.99%   11,295 GH/s
Mar 29 2012   1,626,553   8.56%   11,643 GH/s
Mar 16 2012   1,498,294   0.09%   10,725 GH/s

Strange as it may seem, due to the fluctuations in BTC price, I have made ROI and have now turned on RRP to 50%. Since all of my contracts are indefinite, I should see prosperous returns from here on out.

I am not being a shill, but my figures are my own.

I commend philipma1957 on his postings through this thread, but I value my financial privacy.

Let me share one example which may dissuade some of you from engaging in selling on eBay, given the real risks involved which eBay will never tell you.

I sold off my FPGA miners on eBay in May, when I started to transition to ASIC. Then in July, one of the buyers filed a bullshit chargeback with their credit card company, citing undelivered goods or something along those lines. Paypal pulled the amount from my Paypal balance. After I provided Paypal with the tracking number and the proof of delivery in the form of a signature form which I requested from USPS, Paypal gave me back my money.

I thought I was in the clear.

Fuck No.

The criminal buyer and his equally criminal credit card company ignored the proof that Paypal sent to them on my behalf. The credit card company refused to reverse the chargeback.

So guess what?

Paypal once again pulled the amount from my Paypal balance. I'm out the miner and I'm out the money.

I checked with eBay and Paypal to see how I can set up my listing so that next time, I can prevent people from paying using a credit card through Paypal and potentially abusing me again. Both eBay and Paypal said they can't and won't do that. So, I told them to fuck themselves. I have a 100% feedback on eBay and have been selling since the year 2000. Despite that, I walked away from the eBay/Payal platform that shifts all risk to the seller.

The chargeback example I provided above is just one of several scams enabled by credit card companies, eBay and Paypal. I've had enough and am not selling on eBay anymore. Frankly, after all the fees and shit they take from the seller, the margins really aren't worth the inevitable headache. Sellers take all the risks. Everyone else benefits. Well, it's high time I got out of that unbalanced, pathetic model.

Bitcoins are neither. They neither depend on more people joining,nor is the inherent value of a BTC dependent on newer adopters. These allegations of it being either a pyramid or ponzi scheme stem from the suddenly rising value of it,but that value inflation is due to pure demand-supply equations rather than anything else.

The price of Bitcoin is going up because Bitcoiners are pumping it to get more and more new participants to enter. The media is not helping the situation either with their report of skyrocketing prices. This should be a clue for some people that the Bitcoin scheme is a pyramid scheme.

As you state that Bitcoin can work with no new participants. Can it work?
Let's do a thought experiment.

Assuming:
No new coin creation, it stops now
12 million total BTC supply and it's fixed at 12 million
1 million Bitcoiners

Looking at BTC Distribution.
the Pharaoh (Satoshi) 3m BTC 25%
early adopters, ruling class Lords (~100 people) 2m BTC 17%
early adopters, ruling class Governors (~2000 people) 1m BTC 8%
early adopters, elite class (~15000 people) 1m BTC 8%
.... it gets granular as we go down, but let's lump the rest together
late adopters, working and slave class (~980000 people) BTC 5m 42%

This is a rough estimate distribution from Bitcoin supply issuance scheme and early adopters were few, maybe under 20000 people.
Teleport the one million Bitcoiners to planet BitEarth.

On BitEarth, let's simplified things and condense time so we can get a better visual. The basic principle is the same.
One generation is one year and population growth doubles every year. Die-offs after 3 generations.

Year - Population
1 - 1m
2 - 2m
3 - 4m
4 - 7m (1m die-off)
5 - 12m (2m die-off)
6 - 20m (4m die-off)

Since money supply is fixed at 12 million BTC, as population grows economic activity grows, the money supply can be increased by moving the decimal point, 0.01 (year 1), 0.001 (year 2) and so on. Over subsequent generations, the wealth gaps incremental widens more and more. The slave class where the majority resides have the widest gap between the ruling class.

This is not how a fair monetary system can possible work.
I hope people can see why the Bitcoin scheme is a pyramid scheme.

Just want to get info on these terms.

I go with option 6. That both terms are incorrectly used.

Hey send me an email.I will have our guys look at it.

Why would people bother trying to scam through eBay.  I'll admit ignorance when it comes to online market place rules/regulation.  Are their funds cleared immediately upon receiving payment?

R13 isn't canceled, just delayed and open for refunds the boards should arrive before thanksgiving and be up and running.

And why the machines are sold? Members interest?