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45261  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 15, 2013, 01:02:19 AM
Love it! It's a race now between my new hub and the usbs! Here's to 1 day delivery after canary ships (optimistic!).

TJ

My USB hub won the race. I waited to order until confirmation from Canary.

I went with the GearMo. It looks so lonely right now with just a fan in it and a USB data stick I threw in just to test.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BZABGWK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 


as a heads ups  it reads a 12v 3 amp brick   that is about  a 7 or 8 stick max.   
45262  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 14, 2013, 11:04:54 PM
question  I got 66 paid for and the mail  label is for a medium flat rate.
  if I buy 4 more to make it 70 do you them for the same package.
 or how many of the 700 are left?
as coinbase finally made me an instant 50 coin limit buyer.  oh happy day!
please see post #2


Okay just sent  1.24 btc    brings my grand total to total of 70 sticks


Philipma1957  ;4;1.24 btc   1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x


https://blockchain.info/tx/93aa7ad39147ebe5e6e8b9a7e13114cc1d846c8c96ded7c31f958a1e1481cac0  


  I  will stop at   70 sticks.   Good to hear that dhl has shipped.  Thank god our gear was not on that poor ups jet (rest in peace pilot and copilot)
45263  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 14, 2013, 10:19:31 PM
question  I got 66 paid for and the mail  label is for a medium flat rate.
  if I buy 4 more to make it 70 do you them for the same package.
 or how many of the 700 are left?
as coinbase finally made me an instant 50 coin limit buyer.  oh happy day!
45264  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: If you sell on eBay or other outlets, please read this: on: August 14, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
My 2 cents:

I bought 84 for 1 BTC. Sold them all for $140+ ($3360 profit). I thought jeez, that was a good deal.... so I bought 50 more. ASICMINER dropped the price to .55, so I ended up selling all 50 for about $75 (a $1250 loss) because prices on Ebay had already crashed. Sellers beware. You might get stung by ASICMINER dropping the prices, or by the Ebay system... read on...

Ebay fees are so high, it literally ate ANY profit I had and I actually think I operated at a loss because of ASICMINER's dropping prices.

I even had one person file a case because I said in the auction it would run at 300+ Mh and his was only running at 275-295 Mh. He said he came on the forums here and someone told him they are supposed to run at 336 Mh. I wish I knew who told him that... after mining on over a 100 of these, that is the FASTEST a BE will ever run. Speeds vary (as I mentioned in the auction) as with any other mining equipment.

Anyways.. be careful about how you describe the item and its hash speed. Of course the guy that files the case mines on the damn thing for 2 weeks before he asks for a refund. I wish I knew his name on here so I could give him a piece of my mind. Actually, I gave him a piece of my mind in a Ebay case message. I'm probably getting a negative feedback.. I just couldn't help myself. If you are not happy with the buy, then send it back and ask for your money back... don't mine on it for 2 weeks...

So, I'm done with Ebay and BEs...

/rant

PS: Sorry canary, this is the only thread I knew about selling BEs on Ebay and thought others doing the same thing needed to hear these things.

And all this with PayPal's (pretty) decent seller protection which we pay for in the fees. eBay listing fees that protect you, and PayPal processing fees that protect you again from the same thing.

Canary, you must have had some nightmares dealing all in BTC, no?

Doubtful.. you cant do a chargeback on BTC

  yeah  I sold 40 on ebay  so far no returns but buyers get a lot of ebay protection.

 I am hoping that the guy that purchased 27 of the 40 I sold does not try to return them after mining for 2 weeks.  He got a very good price for ebay an ebay price. Selling sticks on ebay is very tough to do.  Selling anything on ebay is subject to a 45 day paypal case. Buyers do take advantage of this.  I would hate to get a 40 day chargeback case on my 27 stick sale.

Right now as it stands I will have done okay with the sticks I bought 168 sticks at an average price of 38 bucks.  I sold 40 at the average price of 72 bucks. 

 leaving me 128 at 38 and a profit of about 800 on the 40 sticks sold. I can live with this  for now.
45265  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 14, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
Funny, I was sure that ckolivas' post about that cgminer bug would be misunderstood, since it was right after everyone had been complaining about bad luck for a page or two. I guess he just came to tell us about that bug without bothering to read the thread (and why should he?). Nice timing Cheesy



yeah  once I  saw that I put really my foot in my mouth I realized I better learn to read more carefully and not pop my mouth off on a decent guy.   Well all is well that ends well.


 
45266  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 14, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
hmmm in 3 month

perhaps

usb erupters would be .035

and

blade erupters would be 1.025


The price is too low   but  a set of 3 of usb sticks for  .15-.20  would work maybe?
45267  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 14, 2013, 11:27:24 AM
Disagreements and arguments that end in apologies, forgiveness, and reconciliation from both parties? I thought we were on the internet. WTF is this shit?


That is funny.
45268  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 14, 2013, 04:59:46 AM
 
  quote from bluespaceant


"  ... I wonder if ASICminer has considered allowing the pricing of these to change in direct proportion to current difficulty, with a set period for return on investment? The lower the period the better of course.  How about 14 days at current difficulty?  That would be good for miners and the network, and it would make it very difficult for ASICminer's competition."




a 40 return based on diff of:
 50 mill at 11 days  
60 mill at 11 days
70 mill at 11 days
 80 mill at 7 days

 may be possible  around .12 btc   still that is a very low price.  

I am thinking the lowest they can do is a must buy 2 at .30   pure guess work on my part.

  or maybe I don't understand your comment and your pricing scale is not what I thought.
45269  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 14, 2013, 04:02:36 AM



 philipma1957 ;6; 1.86  1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x




https://blockchain.info/tx/1000585f266d344d96af8bd77cfe72f63dca8f6eed96d7bcd59ad7c388f91456   


added 6 more sticks for a total of 66 sticks.
45270  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 14, 2013, 03:41:21 AM
Well I do apologize  for anger directed at a person that made a simple error. I have been frustrated over  mining issues that were not of his making.
I understand everyone's nerves are frayed with the hardware/investment/profit/difficulty situation. Apology accepted and issue forgotten. Now we can get back to the serious business of complaining about hardware manufacturers.

 Thanks  I have been really stressed over gear for a long time. I never meant to question your integrity and was venting about  a lot of stuff that you have 0   to do about.

I am mining 58 asic miner sticks (sold 27 on ebay)  and waiting for 70 more to come in.

      My only other hashing is from cloudhasher and that has been a disappointment.
 Oh and once again bfl has not made up a lot ground on my orders of jalapeno's
  Also waiting on bit fury and knc.

Well at least asic miner sends gear to miners quickly.
128 sticks will hash at 40gh plus.
45271  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 14, 2013, 01:56:07 AM
Apologies to bitminter miners if you upgraded to cgminer 3.3.3 which uniquely only broke this pool. I will be releasing a hotfix release today, 3.3.4, designed to mainly address this issue (if you are building from git the fix is already available).


 I do not like to sound or read so nasty but after a long list of poor btc companies and the like I am tired.

Feel free to write your own mining client. Nothing stops you. Everything is open source. It is called 'fix it yourself, if you're not happy of the software GIVEN to you'.

ckolivas is one of the most generous person to share his technical skills freely to the whole community. If he did receive 1 BTC per cgminer copy used or just received a small donation for each hour spent to improve cgminer for the benefits of all his users, he would be awesomely rich.

The hero title he has is well merited. In my mind, he is playing an important role for mainstream BTC adoption with his contribution.

I hope that you calm down a bit, realised that you might have overreacted and offer him your sincere apologizes.

The recent pool bad luck has nothing to do with cgminer.



  Well I do apologize  for anger directed at a person that made a simple error. I have been frustrated over  mining issues that were not of his making. Frankly I could never hold a candle to any one that writes a client my skills are not that good.
45272  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 13, 2013, 11:52:33 PM
Apologies to bitminter miners if you upgraded to cgminer 3.3.3 which uniquely only broke this pool. I will be releasing a hotfix release today, 3.3.4, designed to mainly address this issue (if you are building from git the fix is already available).



 yeah , but how many coins did you cost the doctors pool?

  Not to sound nasty but the doc has 16-20th on line and if 10th of it was using your client.    you 1/2 our real hash thus the bad luck was directly caused by your error.

 I also realize that maybe only 1th , 2th of our pool was using your bad software. Your admittance not mine.  I also realize that your bug was introduced at the end of the 37 mill difficulty.

 Making it all the worst.     I would say that none should do any update of working mining clients near the next adjustment.   We will go from 37 mill to 50 mill in a day. 

If your error was done on day one of an adjustment  instead of day nine of an adjustment   it would always cause less damage.   I mine mining a while and I am tired of all the little slip ups made costing myself and others money. 

So I ask you how much hash power did you take out on our pool >  How long has the damaged occurred for 1 day 2 days.  Does it match very closely our so called bad luck streak? 

Let be generous and say it was an accident. It goes to show miners that even a slip thing like an update by a client can be used as a weapon against a pool.
 So always be careful about updating your gear . The last 30 hours we have 2 blocks should have 8-9.  If your error did damage  which it did,  how many of the 6-7 lost blocks are on you.  care to guess?

 I do not like to sound or read so nasty but after a long list of poor btc companies and the like I am tired.
45273  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 13, 2013, 03:21:18 PM
Bitminter is about 20TH. Network is 400TH. 400 / 20 = 20. Therefore Bitminter has a 1/20 chance of finding a block. Statistically, BM should find 5% of 124, or about 6.2 Blocks/Day (currently).
Isn't it 144 blocks/day (at 6 per hour)?

I calculated it differently.  20 TH/s at the current difficulty calculates out to 268 BTC/day using this web calculator:  http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

Therefore, we should be finding, on average, 10-11 blocks per day.

Yep. Correction is needed. It is 144 blocks per day. Thanks. That comes out to 7.2 blocks/day for BitMinter at 5% of network hash rate. I'm not going by difficulty, but network hash rate because network hash rate is calculated more often (I think).

It is calculated more often, but it is not relevant until the next difficulty adjustment.

When the math is done by miners trying to make blocks, they only look at the difficulty. It is the frequency of published blocks that people use to determine what the network hash rate is... it is not some accurate snapshot of the network's mining power, but rather an estimate (if everyone was having bad luck, the network hash rate would be calculated as being lower than it really was.)

Currently, the network is finding over 9 blocks an hour, but that is not (yet) in any way hindering us from finding any blocks. Everyone continues to find them at the current difficulty.



yeah difficulty is what matters.  think of difficulty of 37 mill as a wheel of fortune you spin.  it has 37 mill slots only one wins.   our hash of 20th it how many times we can spin that wheel. in a given period of time
45274  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 13, 2013, 03:14:03 PM
Okay, first time creating a shipping label outside of eBay.  I created a USPS account, but when I'm about to create a label, it has my address for the return address.

So how does this work?  To and from my address?
 I did that too but it will ask what zip code will it ship from.  Canary's zip is 60181  


    edit someone please confirm the zip
45275  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 12, 2013, 05:09:33 PM
I am trying to get some more coins. I have 60 sticks  on order paid for and I paid for 1 medium flat rate priority box .  So if I scrap up 2 or 3 coins for 6 to 10 sticks to put in the paid for box when is the cutoff day?

I have 1.3 coins now and can add 4 sticks to the order today. I don't want to waste the prepaid for  post office box. Ty phil
45276  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: is cloudhashing.com a scam?? on: August 12, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
Hi All,

If you are one of the few still waiting to receive a payment. We are still waiting on the last couple of customers to update their wallets. Then we will send them all in one batch. We have pretty much ironed out the kinks in our automated payment process. It does usually take a few iterations to get these sort of things sorted.

Thanks for your patience. BTW we are now at 1.2 terahash. Another BFL minirig should be with us shortly. As I promised in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqOx3O09ol4

We will continue to go to the open market to purchase mining equipment to satisfy our customers if delays from BFL persist. This is what we said we would do, and this is what we are doing. We purchase these BFL mining rigs off Ebay & IRC, period!

<<<<< I do not comment on conjecture >>>>>

Kind regards


The BFL Minirig purchased a while back by Cloudhashing is a 1500 (1.5 Th) gig unit.

Seems as though CH is about 300 Gigs short in their public statements regarding how much hashing power they have........................................................

https://products.butterflylabs.com/1500gh-bitcoin-miner.html

http://mineforeman.com/2013/04/05/butterfly-labs-increases-prices-and-decreases-hash-rates-on-the-asic-bitcoin-mining-devices/


  or bfl gave them 2 new mini rigs at 500gh each or 1th since bfl could not build a 1.5th minirig.

 this means bfl owes them a third  new mini rig to get to 1.5th/  so if my guess is correct CH will jump to 1.7th soon.

 the other 200-300 th   may be some avalon or bfl singles
45277  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: If you sell on eBay or other outlets, please read this: on: August 12, 2013, 11:11:11 AM
 Okay I have a great ebay record 1200 plus perfect feedbacks. I have sold about 40 sticks on ebay. Today I sold 27 sticks at 53 bucks a piece based on the  new price of 29.50 usd a stick = .31 btc .  my profit was just about 23  a stick. after fees about 19 a stick.



I  think that  if the Canary becomes a drop shipper for me it would be a good deal.

  Upside is I have a prebuilt stellar name as a seller and the work is less with him drop shipping. I could sell a shitload of sticks at a low price .

making 20  to 30 bucks on 3 sticks works for me since I have no workload vs making 57 bucks and doing all the work.

 Downside is  I piss off a lot of other sellers with lowball prices.  Not sure I want to do that.

 I need to sit back and think about the ebay idea carefully.
This isn't anything new, Amazon can do the same for you guys.... At higher cost and you'd have to ship inventory to them.
And you shouldn't cut your price to the bone, you have to watch the market and maximize your profits...
And there's that whole thing about having inventory issue that pops up sometimes Smiley
Plan accordingly.


 you have been a great seller .   so this idea has a lot of merit for me. I am going to weigh my options carefully over the next few days.
45278  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] batch #20/21 .31 - .35 btc for USB miners & 10.25 blades - USA only on: August 12, 2013, 04:02:18 AM
Please excuse me for asking this here but I want the recommendations of those that are actually mining, buying mining equipment.

I need BTC, lots of them, so I can make BE buys with Canary.  Problem is this will be my first BTC buy ever so I want to deal with the very best among, to my knowledge, not many very good choices.
How hard can it be to find a relatively, in crypto-currency terms, established, reliable party to accept my cash or cash equivalents and convert them to BTC in a reasonable amount of time at a reasonable fee, exchange rate?   I understand that people want to deal in BTC which helps us all by supporting the value of BTC but if you can't reliably buy them you have to mine them; you can't mine them without mining equipment which you buy with BTC.  A Catch-22.

If you were going to buy BTC, where would you buy them?  Coinbase, Camp BX, ??

Thanks for your input.


you are the new guy so buying btc will be slow. coinbase is okay order from them the first order takes a week. during that week no more orders allowed.  so order enough since you can not order for a week.  after they pay your first order you can order 10 coins a day every day but wait a week for each new shipment.  then after 30 days you can order 50 coins a day short wait 1 to 6 hours.

for now  if you want to test  buy a stick or 2 .
 some are on ebay for under 50 usd.
I resold 27 on ebay today at 53 a stick.

I do not have any to sell and will mine with what I have.
45279  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 12, 2013, 03:27:18 AM
forgot a good trick for counting sticks.
start 3
skip 3
start 3
skip 3     

3 sticks = 1gh

6 sticks = 2gh

9 sticks = 3gh 

12 sticks = 4gh   


After playing with gear tonight I am now running 80 sticks on 1 machine.

   the first piece of gear is this

http://usb.brando.com/usb-20-port-hub_p03123c039d015.html 

it will run 10 sticks and 6 hubs of 10 sticks so that is 70 sticks 


 I have 6 of these plugged int the above 20 port gear I have the other 4 ports empty. I use the better power brick. I linked to.

http://www.amazon.com/Aitech-Adapter-backward-Compatible-aluminum/dp/B009NESU4M/ref=pd_cp_pc_1


   I use this mobo

http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-USB3-0-Mini-ITX-Motherboard-Z77E-ITX/dp/B007RS71O6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376277717&sr=1-1&keywords=asrock+z77+itx 

 I plug into the 2 usb 2.0 jacks in back of the board.  So that is 70 sticks.

 I plugged 2  of these 7 port  hubs

 http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Professional-Premium-Quality-Chipset/dp/B00B59BFVI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376277811&sr=1-2&keywords=viewhd+7+port

 I use the 2 back usb 3.0 ports   I can only use 14 usb 3 sticks with this board so I use the 2x 7 port hubs...


I am at 80 sticks but I could run 4 more for sure or 84 sticks..

I think that is the max on this mobo due to hub limits. 


Still 80 sticks and 320 watts with the screen turned off is a money maker for now.
45280  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: If you sell on eBay or other outlets, please read this: on: August 12, 2013, 02:25:52 AM
  Okay I have a great ebay record 1200 plus perfect feedbacks. I have sold about 40 sticks on ebay. Today I sold 27 sticks at 53 bucks a piece based on the  new price of 29.50 usd a stick = .31 btc .  my profit was just about 23  a stick. after fees about 19 a stick.



I  think that  if the Canary becomes a drop shipper for me it would be a good deal.

  Upside is I have a prebuilt stellar name as a seller and the work is less with him drop shipping. I could sell a shitload of sticks at a low price .

making 20  to 30 bucks on 3 sticks works for me since I have no workload vs making 57 bucks and doing all the work.

 Downside is  I piss off a lot of other sellers with lowball prices.  Not sure I want to do that.

 I need to sit back and think about the ebay idea carefully.
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