Dam, this is actually a really good read. Thanks for this Theymos. Some standout points that I noticed "It should matter to us that Harris, the ardent criminal justice reformer, not only did little to enact this reform during her years as a prosecutor but backed harsh, punitive policies that undermined her own progressive rhetoric on the issue. It should matter that she at times did so needlessly, taking a harsher stance than her right-wing opponents. It should matter that she repeatedly attempted to keep an innocent man locked up in prison and attempted to defend a falsified confession."(Above link) Though even with this, I don't even think that Harris is just lying about her policies. I think she's the type of person who changes their policies when they're elected, she'll do her own thing in office but will promise you the world when she's trying to get elected. I don't think she has any beliefs, I think she's a selfish person who only cares about her looking good enough to get elected. I can't think of the word that describes people like this, though there is a word to describe a politican like this. She's someone who will stop at nothing to win, and will change her views like a pancake. Flip-floppily if you will. She is without a doubt the most dangerous type of politician. As you don't know what they'll when they gain substantial power. |
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I don't agree that there are many spam threads in P&S board. Basically, there are just few threads started by Actor_Tom_Truong and that's it. Since Flying Hellfish was appointed as a mod, quality of this board improved a lot.
You can call this threads started by Actor_Tom_Truong spam, nonsense or conspiracy theories, but he don't break rules of forum, so there are no valid reasons to delete this thread or ban. We have freedom of speech here on Bitcointalk, so even mentally ill people can post their bullshit as long as they aren't breaking rules of forum.
Your freedom of speech doesn't extend, and it never will, further than by protections from 'state action' (which is just governmental action). If Theymos wanted to limit all of us to only saying good things about Bitcoin, he could. This is a private forum with rules in place, and with my current interpretation of the rules -- this person in P&S is breaking the rules and causing spam. I'm not asking for the person to be banned, nor for the threads to be deleted - I feel like that would go against Theymos' own moral code. Though I do think they should be moved out of the section, as they show no benefit / discussion within the board itself. I'd be willing to move it if regulars on here agree with it, and Hellfish doesn't respond for a 24 hour period or so here.
Feel free to move it to meta anytime, I may end up moving it myself as it isn't appropriate in P&S. My interpretation of the no multi-posting rule is that multi-posting within a 24 hr period is not allowed. Multiple posts that could be edited in to a single post or are entirely useless all together which are designed only to "bump" a thread are what that rules targets. It does not target a thread in which any user would like to update periodically a thread and they should not be restricted to adding legitimate information to a thread just because they were the last person to post in a thread. With regards to that specific troll, just ignore him, that's what I do he isn't really harming anyone and he is obviously mentally ill. There is literally no value in engaging him or discussing him or reading his posts or anything what so ever related to him. I've already wasted time I didn't want to on him but because your a decent bloke I responded to you. I would love it if we banned the mentally ill but theymos wants them to have their say as well so chances are him and his threads aren't going anywhere. I mean, if you define updating a thread as tossing random youtube videos into it every so often which have no connection to the starting thread, then yes all he's doing is updating. But he's not, he's simply using it as his personal spew shitting area which has no conversation from outside sources. He may be the last person posting in that thread, but he's also the ONLY PERSON. I personally think it makes P&S look bad, and it makes us seem like an area where bullshit conspiracies thrive. We're not that at all, we're a board with great discussions and a wonderful group of members. |
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We have an issue in this area that's without a doubt one of the weirder ones on the forum, and I want to know if everyone agrees that it's spam and should just be moved to a different section. I'm going to list out the threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=787093.0 - ElDeRs oF 13 iNbReD EuRoPeAn bLoOdLiNeS HoUsE TrAiNiNg tHeIr iNbReD ChIlDrEn https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253142.0 - nSa, CiA, iRs, DhS, aTf, FbI, gChQ, fEdErAl rEsErVe, IsIs aRe tErRoRiStS https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179616.0 - oNgOiNg cIvIl wAr iN U.S.A. cOrPoRaTiOn Now pardon me as I made every other letter capital, though I do think that shows the amount of REAL discussion that is going on in these threads. (Hint: There is no real discussion, it's just aCtOr_tOm_tRuOnG writing back and forth to himself over and over and over for about 100 pages a thread) No one is debating with him, he's just simply rambling on and on and on and keeping his shitposting threads alive. I honestly feel like he's just using these threads as his own private blog. It's spam, and it shouldn't be here. What does everyone else think? Interesting, I just went over to the Meta section and looked HERE ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_rulesand found Forum Rule #32 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed. .....? Perhaps if the local moderator will not take action, this complaint should be put to the Meta thread. Clearly it's against the forum rules. Hm, this might be smart. Could I crosspost it to there? I would assume that Hellfish should see it shortly. I'd be willing to move it if regulars on here agree with it, and Hellfish doesn't respond for a 24 hour period or so here. |
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Can't you access other people's number from telegram? I thought you could (since it's required).
No. You canīt know the phone number from a user on telegram. You could search for him using only their nick. Maybe not through traditional means. If the information is out there, it can be accessed by someone. When working in the financial industry, I was always shocked at how easy it was to access client SSNs or other personal information. That, and social engineering is typically a fairly easy way to get information like this out of nonchalant employees. Way off topic though. Sorry. You'd have to explicitetly share the account name with someone else, so no -- at least through what Og said, traditional means. But yeah, most companies (in many industries) have some pretty horrible 'security', or for this matter a lack thereof, when it comes to all of your most sensitive information (tax returns, id scans, ssn, etc) |
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I think that people who keep on pointing out the flaws in politics and government, but don't have an answer about what to do about the flaws, are really subjecting the people to despair. But that is the point of people who are trying to take over the world. Get as many people as possible to succumb to fear. It makes them cower in a corner. They are much easier to vanquish that way.  That's all these threads are, just random conspiracy theories that have no basis in an attempt to make people scared. Though I don't know how he posts the same garbage day in and day out, if you check the threads it's literally just him for tens of threads pretty much responding to himself.s |
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Pretty large read, I'll edit this post down below once I'm done and have some analysis! Thanks for the source Theymos. |
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We have an issue in this area that's without a doubt one of the weirder ones on the forum, and I want to know if everyone agrees that it's spam and should just be moved to a different section. I'm going to list out the threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=787093.0 - ElDeRs oF 13 iNbReD EuRoPeAn bLoOdLiNeS HoUsE TrAiNiNg tHeIr iNbReD ChIlDrEn https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253142.0 - nSa, CiA, iRs, DhS, aTf, FbI, gChQ, fEdErAl rEsErVe, IsIs aRe tErRoRiStS https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179616.0 - oNgOiNg cIvIl wAr iN U.S.A. cOrPoRaTiOn Now pardon me as I made every other letter capital, though I do think that shows the amount of REAL discussion that is going on in these threads. (Hint: There is no real discussion, it's just aCtOr_tOm_tRuOnG writing back and forth to himself over and over and over for about 100 pages a thread) No one is debating with him, he's just simply rambling on and on and on and keeping his shitposting threads alive. I honestly feel like he's just using these threads as his own private blog. It's spam, and it shouldn't be here. What does everyone else think? |
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What similar things do people use now?
telegram +1 Telegram, Discord, Signal (though I wouldn't be putting my # out there), and so on and so forth. At least in the case of Tele and Signal, privacy minded apps. |
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The way it actually works, they'll let Bernie run and even give him a lot of publicity. But just like last time, they'll be aiming to fold his votes into the back-room-selected-bred-candidate.
And you'll be used, just like last time.
This is why I'm not giving another dollar or minute to Bernie's campaign until he has fully cleared the primary. At least you're honest about it, that's fair. I don't know how he's getting the large amount of donors that he had before -- but, people are stupid I guess. I think that the Democratic establishment put Kamala Harris in as insurance against Bernie-or-bust people. She's pretending to be a Sanders-style Democrat, even though if you actually look at her record, she's basically a neocon. Are you seeing many people fooled by Harris?
As a libertarian, I'd be reasonably happy with Sanders because he has OK positions on the two things that a president has the most power over: foreign policy and civil rights. His economic policy is garbage, but a president can't unilaterally make massive economic changes. More worrying is that he has been successfully browbeaten by the establishment into doing things inconsistent with his philosophy on several occasions, but he's still better than most about that.
Woah woah woah. Kamala Harris is a neocon? I mean, looking at her platform makes me think that she's a socialist -- though I might be fooled over here too. Though it's pretty easy to get fooled when she's on the Medicare for All, trillion dollar tax plans, and some other random dem style stuff ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/21/sen-kamala-harriss-policy-agenda-trillion-tax-plan-tax-credits-renters-bail-reform-medicare-for-all/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.294c4356f36f) He's fallen in line, and he has had to I guess. Though I still don't know how people can support him after that -- he obviously is just going to flip flop again if given the chance. |
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Yes it is disappointing to see otherwise productive forum members have such extremist views. I guess it is just a fact of participating in such a diverse forum
Though I guess that's just how life is, sometimes you disagree with people and that's just how the world works. Hope you don't take that the wrong way Jet Cash, we just disagree politically! (at least on here)
Yes it is disappointing to see otherwise productive forum members have such extremist views. I guess it is just a fact of participating in such a diverse forum
Lots of people simply don't like the U.S. and the international banker's actions in that country. We've seen them before, and the people of neither country win. Socialism sucks. Why not just let it fail on it's own? If it won't fail in Venezuela due to their natural wealth, deal with it. The only thing which the sanctions and harassment accomplish is to lend strength to the relatively false idea that Socialism works unless Capitalism interferes. Then there is the plainly unethical idea that it is OK to steal if you have the muscle to do so, and the U.S. policy doesn't even hide that that is the goal. Whoever supports us on that philosophical principle is NOT someone who is going to be reliable or beneficial to have around in the long run. Even as lap-dogs. Certainly not as masters which is more likely to be the driving force given the relative strength of our people in influencing our politicians relative to certain other groups. I wouldn't even say that US muscle has done anything, if the US wanted socialism to fail in Venezuela for good they could make it happen. But they're not doing so, yet. |
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The way it actually works, they'll let Bernie run and even give him a lot of publicity. But just like last time, they'll be aiming to fold his votes into the back-room-selected-bred-candidate.
And you'll be used, just like last time.
Bernei bros got ruined last time when Bernie turned Pro Clinton, I would hope that they don't fall for the same thing again. Even if they're not out to get him this time, he's one of them at this point and he knows it. I don't know how someone could fall for all of his BS the second time around. At least support a candidate with a chance of winning, like someone like Biden. Bernie is a sellout. |
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The news is so distorted. Venezuela receives so much aid, that it tried to give some of it to part of Columbia, and the US blocked it. If the US really cared about helping people, then they would route that aid to the parts of Columbia that really needs it. But maybe that would mess up their drug dealing, and they need that to fund all their stupid wars that everybody knows are just attempts to seize the assets of countries to give to the super-national elite.
What the hell did I just read. Could you please explain I have noticed he posts a lot of pro-Maduro (what amounts to) propaganda in Venezuela threads. I wouldn't take it seriously. There seem to be a few others similarly supporting Maduro, although this may be because they are wanting Socialism to be tried in the US. Interestingly, Socialist Bernie Sanders acknowledged there is a humanitarian crisis recently. Didn't know that Jet Cash swung that way. Pretty horrible to see! Maduro is a horrid leader, and should be ousted. He's not a legitimate president, I want to stretch that one more time, MADURO IS NOT A LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT |
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The news is so distorted. Venezuela receives so much aid, that it tried to give some of it to part of Columbia, and the US blocked it. If the US really cared about helping people, then they would route that aid to the parts of Columbia that really needs it. But maybe that would mess up their drug dealing, and they need that to fund all their stupid wars that everybody knows are just attempts to seize the assets of countries to give to the super-national elite.
What the hell did I just read. Could you please explain |
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It's because gambling with fiat for me, is more expensive. Another reason is that, I'm easily getting tired of waiting so I can sit for the game that I want. Unlike gambling with crypto, I'm very free to play anytime I want.
This is going to be the main answer that you see on here. Plus the fact that: 1. Online gambling could be banned in a certain countries, crypto is a way to circumvent this. 2. You can gamble anonymously, and your CC company / family won't know (not saying if this is a good or bad thing) 3. Fees are going to be much lower. |
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Can one of you make the bitcoin price go up with your hats, or did you just waste money on some nice hats? <3
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There's definitley nothing wrong with changing or lowering commission percentage, but the thing is, first of all at the start of their affiliate program they should point out that the commission rate is not fixed and can/will be changed, and even after that every participant should be notified about every single change in this rate by whatever medium they use for communicating with their users.
I really don't know what happened to this case but as I read their terms and conditions they stated in Miscellaneous and other significant terms that "FortuneJack reserves the right to amend, cancel, reclaim, or refuse any promotion at our discretion." so technically they can change the rules whenever they want. They must abide the rules to their affiliates before creating a new one. Since it is stated in their terms and conditions then they have the right to amend or cancel any promotion offered on their site. It it there before the player and user who registers an account with them has to confirm they understand these terms before they are allowed to complete registration. So I dont see anything coming out of it if they decide to fight them for their affiliation payments. Even if your terms and conditions say one thing, it still doesn't mean that you can retroactively change them. If you were supposed to be paid one thing, and then months later (when your due to get your affiliate payment) the terms are changed and you're told your being paid less, then that's a scam. The correct thing to do, would be to say we're paying x terms until month end and then phasing in this new program. If you'd like to stay then stay, and if not alright. That would still leave a bad taste in the mouth of affiliate programs, though it would be fair enough to them to not waste their time if it's not financially worth it anymore. As a complete side note: most terms and conditions don't hold up in court, as they typically violate local law. Hopefully DT comes here and checks this all out. EDIT: Quoting below what is alleged occured from FortuneJack. In January 2019, FortuneJack forced unfair, retroactive terms and conditions onto their affiliate marketing partners in a very sneaky way. They tried to paint it in a positive light, with a subject line that read, "Become a Member of Club40!" Sounds cool, right?
Wrong. The devil is in the details, and after taking a close look at the fine print, it's clear that "Club40" is nothing but a big, greasy turd.
Under the original terms and conditions, an affiliate of FortuneJack would earn at least 25% from their referred players. This was a fair deal -- pretty standard in the industry for a starting rate.
With Club40 -- which seemed like a choice, but was actually the name of their mandatory new commission structure -- most affiliates will earn only 10% on their referred players.
But it gets worse. This extremely low rate isn't just for any new players sent after Club40 went into effect. It applies to all players ever sent, including those referred under the previous T&Cs where the affiliate was supposed to earn at least 25% for the life of the player.
This is a classic bait and switch, and certainly not the way an ethical, professional company should behave. This is why we have rogued them here, and this is why FortuneJack is rogue at Affiliate Guard Dog as well.
In addition to the above, FortuneJack is refusing to pay commissions to their affiliates. You can read about them refusing to pay at least one affiliate in the thread above (in post #3).
Making one-sided retroactive changes to a contract is never acceptable, and refusing to pay what they owe is a big red flag.
Avoid FortuneJack at all costs. |
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Wow this is gorgeous!  Any estimate of how much this goes for??? my guess: 14 to 15 BTC Well, I just got priced out of this..... It's beautiful though, I'll BOLO for it. Goodluck as well! |
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But why do actual verification that could actually determine if PrimeDice is cheating their own players after years of being a reputable site in the Crypto gambling scene (hint: they're not) when you can simply make crazy threats online as an anonymous player with no way of getting a dime back as you just got unlucky while betting. Protip OP: Don't gamble and you won't lose money. |
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Mainly because it's a company and the fact they run funding where people think blockstream must have some private agenda or they use LN to centralize bitcoin and take profit so they can paid their investor. But the fact are : 1. Only fraction of Bitcoin developer work at Blockstream 2. Even if Blockstream were to defunct, Bitcoin and Bitcoin Core development won't be stopped as there are thousand contributor worldwide This article isn't 100% accurate, but it sums up this topic : https://medium.com/bitcoin-not-blockchain/the-blockstream-conspiracy-and-the-bitcoin-cash-pump-8f35fb44491aSo it's pretty much the fact that people want all developers in the Crypto space to not have the ability to benefit from their talent (in a completely separate area though, as Blockstream =/ Bitcoin Core) I think this is the correct assumption. As people who are on the Bitcoin Core team and working for the Blockstream company, are able to separate their duties (I would hope) |
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