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1741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun criminal goes free...so future gun control issues don't arise on: October 23, 2019, 10:31:28 PM
ATF changes rules all the time.  Thats where this story ends up being almost comical. As someone who owns a lot of ATF governed toys, I laugh at their constant changes to definition on a whim.

I have solid core "green-tips".  Remember they were almost banned by the ATF.
I have several AR pistols. Remember all the nonsense from the ATF over braces and "shouldering" them.

I have an AR pistol with a binary trigger. The epitome of exploiting an ATF definitions loophole.

They change definitions all the time. Guess they couldn't change one in time here for this case.
Surprised they didn't try.

What I really want them to do, is enforce existing laws on those who break them, rather than constantly making it harder for those who abide by the law to continue to do so.

I agree and understand what you are saying, but these examples are of regulatory classifications, not of how the firearm itself is defined as being a firearm or not being a firearm. That is a big difference. I totally agree about enforcing the existing laws, but that doesn't serve the purpose of pushing more gun control if they don't regularly have criminal gun use now does it? Also as far as I am concerned, as long as you aren't victimizing others, or contributing to the victimization of others, any "loophole" in gun control laws should be used to it its fullest, because the 2nd amendment is an inalienable right, not a permit bestowed upon us by the whim of the ATF. In this particular case, they can't just change the definition without infringing on the ability of people to manufacture firearms for their own personal use. Gun control advocates have been frothing at the mouth to take this right away, and this IMO will be the kind of situation they use to finally end that right.

The biggest thing that people miss regarding the issue of Gun Control is that as of right now, we do have a lot of laws on the books relating to ensuring that people who are criminals don't obtain firearms. That's what the rules are for.

But the problem with a good deal of our current law is that local and state government dont provide the necessary information to the background check database to make it fully accurate. If states and local governments dont send mental health issues, criminal issues, and so on and so forth to the FBI then the FBI's system cant work.

1742  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Turkey attacking the Kurds? Potential WW3? on: October 23, 2019, 09:01:48 PM
I was impressed by Trump's speech today on Syria. He sounded very anti-war: about as anti-war as someone like Tulsi Gabbard or Rand Paul, even. Of course, in reality he's sending troops from Syria to Saudi Arabia -- not anything close to "ending the endless wars" as he claims --, but at least the rhetoric is refreshing.

That's Trumps thing, keep up the rhetoric with his voters and then do a completely different thing when his advisors (who are pro-war) to do so. It's a sad fact, but its true.

Hopefully at one point he'll be able to overpower his advisers and do what he wants to do. I do truly think that Trump is antiwar -- but continues to be swayed to do different things.
1743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Here's why the cost of gas is 40% higher in California on: October 23, 2019, 08:16:37 PM
driving generates negative externalities like more traffic, smog, co2, damage to roads.
If the tax on gas goes to offsetting these externalities then there is nothing more fair than a gas tax. Because gas use is very correlated with generation of negative externalities.

however im sure california squanders the gas tax revenue on bullshit like infringing on personal freedoms and corrupt government contracts. Not where it actually needs to be spent.

I mean I think this is something that is true of any local government. It's the government that people don't typically care about or get involved in, so corruption at that level is typically ignored and just happens without too much scrutiny. That's just how local goverment works, and until we begin to get involved on the local level we're just going to see all of this continuing.

1744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Here's why the cost of gas is 40% higher in California on: October 23, 2019, 05:58:51 PM
I can do it because I have a different value system.  I would rather pay a little more at the pump in favor of more healthy lungs and environment.  I'd actually like to see gas prices go even higher more like the ones in Europe to encourage more use of public transportation and dense residential development.  I'd support any policy that limits pipelines/refineries and would like to see an increased gas tax with he funds going towards a more sustainable transit system that would ideally, be free of cost to the rider.    Traffic is my biggest gripe with California (along with surpassed supply of housing) and we could reduce traffic by building our lives around dense, walkable areas with low or no commute time.

If that's something that you're willing to admit, then so be it. At least you're able to understand that to have a good deal of social servieces and regulations you're going to have increased COL, taxes, and so on. That's fair.

I think that most Americans care about what they pay at the pump and would like to limit it. I would go even further and say that most everyday Americans care a lot more about gas prices being lower compared to what the stock market is doing -- because most Americans aren't investing in the stock market (and cant as of right now)
1745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you accept money backed by happiness? on: October 23, 2019, 03:50:38 PM
This is like how when people want to pay you in exposure. It doesn't mean anything and it cant pay the bills. Meaning that it isn't worth shit and shouldn't be used.

I'll never understand the world where people think that happiness or some shit like that is going to mean something when we're trying to keep the lights on.
1746  Other / Politics & Society / Here's why the cost of gas is 40% higher in California on: October 23, 2019, 01:40:47 PM
If you live in California, the first thing I'd like to say to you is that I feel bad for you. California's weather is beautiful, yes, but the amount of taxes you're paying and the amount you're paying to live in California, through the absorbent COL is insane. I don't know how anyone does it. But back on the subject here.

The cost of 1 gallon of Gas in California is: $3.63
The national average for 1 gallon is: $2.60

Prices have surged in California (and some other Western states) due to issues with certain refineries and limited pipelines/refineries in the area. But this isn't an isolated incident, as gas prices in California are always higher then the rest of the US.

So why are there limited pipelines and refineries: Californians higher emission standards. It's a bottleneck.

But that's not something you'd hear from California Dems or their Governor, due to the fact that they dont want people to know that enacting their climate change policy is going to cause this.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rising-california-gasoline-prices-highlight-growing-divide-in-u-s-11571832001?mod=hp_lead_pos5
1747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: North Korea demands Japan pay compensation for sinking fishing boat - KCNA on: October 23, 2019, 05:47:20 AM
North Korea's foreign ministry "strongly demanded" on Saturday that Japan pay compensation for a fishing boat that sank when it collided with a Japanese patrol boat earlier this week, North Korean state news agency KCNA reported.
The collision on Monday was deliberate and "a gangster act" by Japan and Tokyo should take steps to prevent future incidents, a spokesman for the foreign ministry said in a statement carried by KCNA.
The Japanese coast guard said on Monday it rescued about 60 North Korean crew members from a fishing boat that sank after it collided with the patrol boat that was chasing it out of Japanese waters.


they should be thankful that the Japanese coast guard rescued the 60 North Korean crewmen when they entered the Japanese territory illegally. Philippines had a similar incident with the Chinese but
the difference is the Chinese vessel illegally entered the Philippine territory and they intentionally sank a fishing vessel and left the fishing vessel crewmen to die. fortunately the crewmen were rescued
by the Philippine navy.

I have to ask for two things here. Thanks in advance.

1. Why in gods name do you make those weird space after you post something? Is there a reason for that?
2. Could you link this story? Very interested on reading about it.

1. not sure how it happened but it became a habit of mine and It would not probably stop  Grin
2. here is a list of article regarding the issue 1,2,3,4(there are more aritcle about this issue not just these four articles). also I made an error it was a Vietnamese vessel who saved the stranded fisherman  
not the Philippine navy.

1. Hehe. That's fine, was just curious on if it was done for a reason.

2. Thanks for the article, I appreciate it. Will read up on it and just edit this post with what I think from there.
1748  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Audit the fed. on: October 23, 2019, 03:02:40 AM
As part of Bernie Sanders' Wall Street Reform...

I would echo the idea that Ron Paul’s name is the one that should be attached to all things “audit the Fed.”

I'm assuming that the only reason that Bernie is going to continue to echo this (alongside some people in the GOP) is because they want Congress to have more control over monetary policy. Not something that I would want to support due to the short term view that most politicians focus on.
1749  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do politicians take us for granted? on: October 23, 2019, 01:19:00 AM
Does a farmer take his animals for granted?

Politicians play the role of workers on the factory farm and slaughterhouse environments.  The so-called 0.001% are the farm owners.

Just like those working the floors, some percentage of politicians take a sadistic pleasure in making the animals lives even less pleasant than they already are.  Probably not a high percent.  Most of them just do what they are paid to do:  follow their bosses directives and keep things working smoothly and efficiently.



At the end of the day though, there are some politicians that actually do want to see the benefit of the people. Not a majority of politicians, though I don't think there are politicians present that take pleasure in hurting people. They're just in the game to make money and sometimes the people don't get everything they want when you're elected -- so that's the way they make themselves feel better.

It's game, and we're losing. Politicians are winning, corporations are winning, the rich are winning.
1750  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Audit the fed. on: October 23, 2019, 01:14:12 AM
Ah my bad. Honest mistake -- read that wrong.

But the rest of what I put below stands.

None of what you provided excludes the point I was making. The Fed does all kinds of stuff in complete darkness. The "audit" you describe is a sham and superficial at best.

What is your evidence or proof that this is 'superficial' or a 'sham'

I'd understand if your argument was that you want congress to have more control over the Fed. That's something that at least is understandable and could be helpful in certain circumstances -- though horrible in others when politicians want short term growth just to get reelected and they start using monetary policy to get that.
1751  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Turkey attacking the Kurds? Potential WW3? on: October 22, 2019, 07:49:23 PM
Very important to note that after WW1 the Kurds were promised their own land, but then this was taken from them. They were then split up among 4 ME countries: Turkey, Iraq, Syria, and Iran. Here's the quote from the WP:

The Kurds are members of a large, predominantly Muslim ethnic group. They have their own cultural and linguistic traditions, and most speak one of two major dialects of the Kurdish language. After World War I, Western powers promised Kurds their own homeland in the agreement known as the Treaty of Sèvres. But a later agreement instead divided them among Turkey, Iraq, Syria and Iran.

Today, there are about 30 million Kurds living across the region, with about half of them in Turkey. Iraq is the only country in the region to have established an autonomous Kurdish region, known as Iraqi Kurdistan. Its parliament was founded in 1992.

“The Kurds have been suppressed in all sorts of ways, often very violently,” said Henri Barkey, a professor of international relations at Lehigh University and adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. “They have really suffered at the hands of the four states.”
1752  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kim Jong Un’s rode a horse to send out a message to people. on: October 22, 2019, 07:38:36 PM
I feel so guilty of helping to deprive those poor people of food.  We need to end all sanctions and allow the north korean people access to the global economy.  Punishing people because their leaders are bad is a double blow. 

I mean if the North Korean government didn't continue to test with different weapons and fail to give up their nuclear capability then they'd be able to have their sanctions lifted and be apart of the global economy. But that's not the case, as they know their only piece of leverage against the rest of the world is being able to threaten people with a potential nuclear device.

1753  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight on: October 22, 2019, 06:58:48 PM
I mean they're doing things for a reason though, it's not like they're just shutting off the power to save money. They're shutting off the power due to the fact that dangerous winds could cause another Forrest fire, which is the reason they're shutting off the power.

I'd much rather have no power for a few days then see my home burnt down.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-21/power-outages-california-pge-and-southern-california-edison-shutoffs-fire-weather

Wow, it's just been 2 weeks and they're going to see another blackout. I've known for a long time that California have a high fire risk but it seems it got worse that they have to cut power.

If this is the new "normal" they should probably consider changing the way they supply power. Like maybe underground? We don't see exposed cables in Venice, they managed even with the risk of flooding.

Very very expensive to go to underground wires after it's been done. It's something that they're most likely going to think about doing for certain areas (if the power lines have already burnt out) but I don't think all of Cali is going to go underground as the cost is VERY VERY EXPENSIVE.

And even at a certain point there does have to be exposed wires. Most of Europe isn't exposed due to when they got the power cables built and put in -- very different time compared to the US.
1754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight on: October 22, 2019, 06:11:45 PM
I mean they're doing things for a reason though, it's not like they're just shutting off the power to save money. They're shutting off the power due to the fact that dangerous winds could cause another Forrest fire, which is the reason they're shutting off the power.

I'd much rather have no power for a few days then see my home burnt down.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-21/power-outages-california-pge-and-southern-california-edison-shutoffs-fire-weather
1755  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary Clinton to Trump "Don't Tempt Me" on: October 22, 2019, 05:53:03 PM
I wonder if she can win re-election in 2020.
I don't think Hilary Clinton can win Trump,  Trump is an incumbent president and it's not That kind of easy defeating an incumbent president, she had tried twice and failed to win perhaps maybe she wanna give a third trial,  I see an easy victory for Trump if Hilary contest against him. Democratic Party needs a though candidate to contest against trump
Thanks. I didn't know any of that Cheesy



I suspect she does intend on entering the race, in part because none of the current candidates are electable; they are all competing against each-other to be the most left wing extremest candidate. This would explain her recent comments about Gabbard, who I think has a chance to come from behind and grab the nomination. If Clinton were to enter the race, and Gabbard was still in the race, I would suspect that Gabbard would beat Clinton in a nomination fight.

Eh I doubt it. She'd done with politics and shes washed up. The race is already underway and she hasn't been in any of the debates, hasn't assembled a team, and all of that stuff which must be done to win at this stage in the game.

She's done.

Biden, Bernie, or Warren have this primary.
1756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do politicians take us for granted? on: October 22, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
Well I can tell you it's not something which is specific to Africa. Politicians have stopped caring about trying to solve problems and fixing things, they've changed their view. Now anything they do is going to result in short term gain and hopefully a reelection for them.

That's all most politicians care about -- reelection.

I do feel for the politicians that have great monumental plans that look as if they're going to be able to help the country but then they lose because they didn't provide the short term gain that their people wanted. We're to blame for some of this as well, as we get outraged very quickly and want immediate change when that's just not always possible.
1757  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun criminal goes free...so future gun control issues don't arise on: October 22, 2019, 05:38:03 PM
Here's the reason they stopped the prosection of him:

Federal authorities preferred to let Roh go free rather than have the ruling become final and potentially create case law that could have a crippling effect on the enforcement of gun laws.

Under US District Court Judge James V. Selna's interpretation of the law, convicted felons and other people prohibited from possessing firearms would be allowed to legally acquire all the parts necessary to assemble an AR-15-style rifle and other weapons


So yeah. Let one guy go free who isn't going to cause much more harm because he now knows that he is under constant surveillance -- instead of letting tons of people acquire parts who are convicts.

Or... ATF could change a definition, and correct both issues.

Yes. But that's not something that can be done while a court is convening on the subject matter. Law / regulatory concerns would have to be  addressed after the fact, and that's something that's most likely going to be done.

Get it?
1758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun criminal goes free...so future gun control issues don't arise on: October 22, 2019, 03:40:54 PM
Here's the reason they stopped the prosection of him:

Federal authorities preferred to let Roh go free rather than have the ruling become final and potentially create case law that could have a crippling effect on the enforcement of gun laws.

Under US District Court Judge James V. Selna's interpretation of the law, convicted felons and other people prohibited from possessing firearms would be allowed to legally acquire all the parts necessary to assemble an AR-15-style rifle and other weapons


So yeah. Let one guy go free who isn't going to cause much more harm because he now knows that he is under constant surveillance -- instead of letting tons of people acquire parts who are convicts.
1759  Other / Politics & Society / Re: are there any Beto O'Rourke supporters here? on: October 22, 2019, 03:07:26 PM
Doubt it. He's one of those people that isn't going to get much love from anyone on here due to the fact that a good portion of people on here are libertarian / anti government intervention.

Beto is one of those people that is flip flopping on policy - relating to the second amendment which no one is going to be fond of when you're talking about a right that was supposed to have been given to you by the bill of rights.

His campaign is going to end soon, no doubt.
1760  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Senator Sanders and Rep. Omar introduce Universal School meals bill on: October 22, 2019, 03:01:57 PM
Hm.

I know that as of right now, local schools handle the logistics on a large amount of this. The governments kick in the funds, but its up to the state and the local school boards to handle a good amount of the implementation of things.

I know as of right now this is something that only certain states have implemented, and I would like to see it done on a federal level though I do think the federal government is going to use this as leverage to force certain states into giving them what they want.

Don't think this is only 'for the good of the children' this is something where the fed government is just going to take more control.
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