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1821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 08, 2019, 01:16:23 AM
I really don't trust polls whatsoever,  I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well,  Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached.  They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

Sometimes true, but this is something that would only stand true for one or two or something like 3 polls.

If you're going to aggregate polls and average them all out -- hundreds of polls with all different questions and different results -- and find a result, then I would trust that result. Yes, there's no way for all polls to be right -- but if you don't believe an average of polls then that's just not fair.
1822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Global warming explained once and for all. IPCC says: nothing to worry about on: October 07, 2019, 03:46:48 PM
[snip]
-Climate change
-Rising sea levels
-Ocean acidification
O, OK, so it all about the ocean now...
First it was the acid rains - OMG amazon jungle will be poisoned and gone by the year 2000, act now! - Tax 'em
Then was the ozone layer - OMG we all gonna get cancer, atmosphere is to thin! - Tax 'em more
Next it was the warming - OMG we all gonna boil, the atmosphere is to thick! - Tax, Tax, Tax.
And now the oceanic life - OMG we all gona... what this time? Hunker for shrimps?

When will you wake up? It's nothing but a new religion. Technocratic gibberish for the masses to accept new forms of extortions.
I'm not saying it is a bad idea to care about your surroundings. But while you do, don't force ridiculous regulations on people.
Think about this, when was the last time young generations were so, so in favour of governmental actions? When was the last time teenagers where in favour for politicians? It's a precedence due to horribly effective mind control. Don't think about 27K monitored asteroids, on a possible collision course, don't think about those that we can't monitor, do not wonder about supervolcanos and especially forget about nano-plastic in the air and glyphosate, shush.

I'm going to agree with you on the fact that I think we overestimate when it comes to the climate. People think that the world is going to be gone in the next 10 years, then 10 years after that, then 10 years after that, and so on and so forth.

At one point they'll be right.

But the only way to convince people is to truly show them real evidence and then to be RIGHT at some-point.

I don't know who or what to believe at this point.
1823  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: October 07, 2019, 11:20:18 AM
Site seems to be down right now, any official reasoning for this and any ETA on it being stable again?

Thanks!
Constant DDoS attacks. ETA is when they stop attacking or when Tor fixes the vulnerability that let’s people DDoS a website (for the Tor mirror). Cheesy

Got it.

Guess this is something the site has to deal with pretty often though. Thanks man!
1824  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: October 07, 2019, 04:02:47 AM
Site seems to be down right now, any official reasoning for this and any ETA on it being stable again?

Thanks!
1825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia to meddle in US presidential elections 2020 on: October 04, 2019, 03:23:33 PM
Here's the link to the news by CNN https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/02/politics/putin-2020-us-presidential-election-joke-intl/index.html

Newbies are not allowed to post links in the forum.

This is all joke by Putin.
They accused Russia of bringing up fake news and provocative statement to make people vote for Trump. But in reality that's just democrats not being able to accept their defeat.
And whoever wins this time, another party is surly going to blame Russia. This is why the US is losing their credentials in the world. They are now blaming another country for their simple domestic problems.

So pretty much what OP did here is he took a joke by Putin -- which isn't reall a joke, because Putin is going to do this again, and used it to show that they're going to do this again.

We know they're doing this again, this isn't news in the least.

Putin wants to divide us, and he's DOING A GREAT JOB.
1826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia to meddle in US presidential elections 2020 on: October 04, 2019, 12:53:14 PM
The link you posted isn't a link, you may wanna try posting that again. Post it again as I do want to take a look.

And I don't think anyone is going to be surprised by this developments. Putins goal is to sow divide in this country, and he's doing a great job at that as we're all divided against eachother as of right now.
1827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Twitter Censors @realDonaldTrump Posts on: October 03, 2019, 11:02:37 PM
I don't like or use Twitter, but this isn't a fair criticism against them. If Twitter receives a DMCA takedown, then they have to remove the offending content or else they're sticking their neck out legally. If they say, "this is fair use," then they're liable for copyright infringement if they're wrong. You can't expect a company like Twitter to take risks like that if there's any possibility of them being wrong; nor can you expect them to dedicate resources to having lawyers carefully analyze each case. This is just the natural result of the way the DMCA law works: service providers always take things down after receiving a DMCA takedown unless the takedown is so obviously invalid that any court in the world would immediately throw it out.

Under the DMCA, Trump could in this case theoretically send Twitter a counter-takedown in which he asserts that the DMCA takedown was illegitimate (eg. due to fair use), and then Twitter could restore it without liability. I don't know if Twitter actually has a process for handling counter-takedowns, though. (They should.)

IANAL, but it's not clear to me that it is fair use, mainly since Trump isn't commenting on the work itself (ie. the news piece), but rather the subject of the work. If he was criticizing the handling of the reporting, then that'd more likely be fair use. Probably a lawyer could convincingly argue in court that it isn't copyright infringement (maybe due to the excerpt being insubstantial moreso than fair use), but again, if there's any ambiguity at all, then service providers like Twitter aren't going to stick their necks out.

If people were using a decentralized, uncensorable version of Twitter (which technologically isn't even that difficult), then this wouldn't be an issue...

I mean just to add onto this -- which I fully agree with - I don't think twitter is just going to change their algorithm to allow for people who are verified to be allowed to share copyrighted material without it being censored.

This isn't just something that happens on twitter by the way, happens on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, etc. Nothing to do with Trump.

Un-censorable in the sense of community run? I've discussed this a couple time on the section, but I do think that at first small community run social networks can survive like this yes. But you hit a point where people notice they're able to share anything and get away with it -- here comes the kiddie porn and stuff like this, which everyone can agree shouldn't be shared. So now there is a moderator that removes this, but now these people are looking for ad revenue and the only ad partners that are willing to work with them don't like that they have porn on their website.

I think it's a slippery slope of just going back to control.
1828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders has surgery to insert stents, cancels events until further notice on: October 03, 2019, 02:56:53 PM
He also has cancelled ("postponed") some major ad buys in Iowa. I think this is probably indicative of a campaign coming to an end. The Iowa primary is only 4 months away, so he will need to resume campaigning and advertising quickly, or else his supporters in Iowa will move to other candidates, making it likely for him to do poorly in the Iowa primary. A poor performance in the Iowa primary may mean he looses supporters, and donors elsewhere.

According to the latest Morning Consult polling, Sanders supporters say that their second choice is:
 - 30% Biden
 - 28% Warren
 - 6% Harris
There was a Monmouth (and a Economist/YouGov) poll out today that has Warren ahead of Biden. This is from Biden having double digit leads, and leads exceeding the total support of the next two highest candidates combined not long ago. I suspect that Biden may need to end his campaign because of the Ukraine 'scandal' and the purpose of the scandal may have actually been to harm Biden's campaign. 

I suspect that 'second choices' of voters are more malleable, and may change depending on who the candidate endorses after dropping out.

Welp my brain was thinking that they were going to keep the ads going to continue getting his name and his ideas out there.

But once you start cancelling ads when primaries are 4 months away, you're kinda saying that you don't really know where this campaign is going to go and they're most likely just going to look things over now. Might be the end of the campaign. Might start thinking about who to endorse.

Because if we see Bernie endorse Warren, I think she might be able to pull through and beat Biden.
1829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Twitter Censors @realDonaldTrump Posts on: October 03, 2019, 02:52:44 PM
I honestly don't know too much about copyright law and how it works, epsically in an age where social media makes it very hard to police infractions. Though I must say that when I viewed the tweet by Trump isn't wasnt under a ban for copyright issues.

I'm assuming  that this is something that happens all the time when he posts a video like this, where tons of people will report it for copyright infractions and then the auto twitter bot will show that until someone manually checks it.

I doubt this is new.
1830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A YEAR AFTER KHASHOGGI WAS MURDERED on: October 03, 2019, 01:17:03 PM
This is really scary for all journalists who wants to express their themselves on various issues involving the rich and powerful in the society.

it's not actually confirmed that was the real reason why he was killed/murdered/disappeared (or even exactly what happened to him). Of course, it's not an unreasonable supposition to think it, but there is no genuine evidence.

I say this in particular because Kashoggi had a colorful family background; he was nephew to the famous Saudi arms dealer Adnan Kashoggi. Adnan Kashoggi has an extraordinary reputation and life story, he was selling weapons into the 1980's Iraq/Iran war, as well as the contras in Guatemala (or was it Nicaragua?). He was ridiculously wealthy, was well known for parties that lasted 3-4 days at his luxurious properties, in places like Spain and the USA. In other words, Uncle Adnan had some really strong political friends in US and Europe, which of course he needed to be an arms dealer in wars that US and European powers were involved in.

So was Jamal Kashoggi just an innocent Saudi journalist, fighting the House of Sa'ud for the Saudi people? Maybe, but growing up with an Uncle like Adnan, he could easily have been doing another job (or 3) at the same time, using the journalist role as cover (which also gave anyone he annoyed the cover they needed to kill him). Without any proper evidence, it's difficult to say anything for certain.

Haven't heard any of this as a theory before, not saying that you're not to be believed. I think it's just more believable that the Saudis would kill someone that doesn't agree with them due to the fact that they have done it before.

This whole event was tried on like 6 other people as well, though Khashoggi was the first one to actually enter the embassy and we all know where that led him.

Could you toss a source for all the other info ya got? Would love to read.
1831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders has surgery to insert stents, cancels events until further notice on: October 03, 2019, 12:00:46 AM
Some other candidates would be able to continue after this, but since the media hates Sanders, they'll constantly portray him as near death. Probably it will hurt his support enough to kill his inertia and force him to drop out after he performs poorly in the first few states.

According to the latest Morning Consult polling, Sanders supporters say that their second choice is:
 - 30% Biden
 - 28% Warren
 - 6% Harris

If you assume that Sanders drops out now, go based on the above numbers along with the current RCP average, and give one-tenth of Sanders' remaining support to candidates not listed in the Morning Consult poll, you get adjusted numbers of:
 - Biden 26.1 -> 31.1
 - Warren 24.4 -> 29.1
 - Buttigieg 5.6 -> 6.2
 - Harris 4.7 -> 5.7
 - Yang 3.3 -> 3.9

This (incredibly rough/unscientific analysis) makes it look good for Biden and to a slightly lesser extent Warren, but it really solidifies it into a 2-person race.

I would've really liked Sanders vs Trump because it's win-win in some ways: compared to previous presidents Trump is above average in most areas, while Sanders is excellent on foreign policy and civil liberties and terrible on policies that a president is more limited in affecting. Now I probably have to hope for Trump beating Biden or Warren.

In Trump vs Biden, I think Trump would probably win, but it wouldn't be a sure thing. President Biden would be like a mix between Obama and Bush. Biden himself is very authoritarian and pro-intervention, but he would probably appoint some Obama people to his administration, which might improve things somewhat on average. On the plus side, he is definitely not anti-capitalist.

In Trump vs Warren, Warren would have a very low chance of winning, but it'd be high stakes because Warren is really terrible. Warren is a horrible fusion of authoritarianism, interventionism, anti-capitalism, and corporatism, and her victory would embolden progressives while also giving them an opportunity to say, "Warren is destroying the country only because she's not progressive enough: she's no Bernie!". On the plus side, if she loses (which is the most likely outcome), it might diminish AOC-type progressivism in the Democratic party for a while.

I guess Bernie is most likely spewing the same stuff that Trump said about foreign policy - which was the idea that the US was in too many foreign ways and the troops should come home.

I don't know much about his foreign policy, though I've heard its pretty much what Trump had spoken about during the campaign trail.

I guess we'll see.
1832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders has surgery to insert stents, cancels events until further notice on: October 02, 2019, 06:03:35 PM
This is without doubt going to be the end for Bernie Sanders campaign,  if he goes away for even two weeks without any events, it's going to affect his position on the opinion polls and am sure Joe Biden and Warren are going to capitalize on it and appeal to some of his supporters.

This is kinda the way I'm going with my line of thinking.

I think that there's no way that anyone is going to be able to survive without being involved for two weeks. Even Bernie Sanders, who really does have a cult following. Even with that, you HAVE TO be involved in this day and age.

Bernie does have a chance to stay involved for a little bit -- not himself, but sending out emails and virtual stuff.

I really want to hear what some others think about this.
1833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Request For Help From P&S Regulars/P&S Meta Thread on: October 02, 2019, 04:12:42 PM
So B1tUnl0ck3r is basically making this forum unreadable.  The majority of threads are started by him, all incoherent and mostly 0 responses.  He also invades most of the rest of the threads with irrelevant anti-semitic rants.

+1 on this.

I've ignored him, but even with that I have to see all of his topics saying that half of the threads in here are ignored.

Is there anything we can do to stop that sort of spam.


ALSO:

Tried to make a self moderated thread before and it seems to not be allowed on here anymore, was that just a fluke or is there a new rule here?
1834  Other / Politics & Society / Bernie Sanders has surgery to insert stents, cancels events until further notice on: October 02, 2019, 04:11:28 PM
Didn't hear anything about this until it happened, so I'm not fully sure if this is NEWSWORTHY. But it is something to take note of.

Sanders was already having a hard time keeping up with Warren and Biden in the polls, and I think (depending on how many events hes going to miss) this could be the end of his campaign.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sanders-cancels-events-until-further-notice-due-to-health-issues-11570027592?mod=hp_lead_pos3

Would be nice if they gave some sort of ETA, because if the entire campaign goes dark for a month or so that would end this. A week is different.
1835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: While people stare at Trumps Ukraine comments, Biden is let off the hook. on: October 02, 2019, 02:59:21 PM
Also -- the prosecutor had been forced out because of his investigation??? Isn't that what we're all saying here.

Yes, that's what you're all saying here because this is an echo chamber outside of my opinion. I'm glad you at least framed it as a question, because that's what it is: a question. We don't know the answer. Of course its easy to assume that's the case if you don't like Biden.

I do agree with you about the "conflict of interest" part. As I've said before I don't know what Hunter Biden was doing there other than using his last name to make big bucks. I'm not going to say Biden's conversation was "perfect" when he bragged about having the prosecutor fired. Perhaps that will become its own investigation, if its not already. However, I don't see him being destroyed over this. If he slips in the polls, perhaps it will just be a better entrance for my man Bernie, so I actually wouldn't mind it. I just don't see that happening, however. I think there's a 90% chance he'll still be the dem nominee.

Well yeah -- it's a question to me as well. We're most likely never actually going to know if that was the reason that the prosecutor was fired. We're all just going to form our different theories here. Very easy to assume if you don't like Biden....

When you have Joe Biden bragging about threatening to get the prosecutor fired by with holding a billion dollars, said prosecutor being fired exactly when Biden threatened them, you have no factual basis to make the claim bolded above.

This is kind of garbage that Democrats are pushing. They want to lean over backwards and look the other way at their peoples' corruption, but get out a microscope to find the smallest thing about Trump.

On a different level entirely, this kind of crazy is that which can only be created and propagated by lawyers. Regular people see through. And that's a major reason why Trump is where he is right now.

Just to further explain what I meant when I typed that -- if you were to see I had been talking about how no one will know the exact reason that he was fired.

Biden is going to say he was fired by an international effort to remove him due to corruption.
Trump is going to say the prosecutor was fired due to going after Bidens son, Hunter Biden.

We know that the prosecutor was fired because of Biden forcing him out, yes, no one disagrees there. But no one knows the true reason that Biden had pushed for his removal. And we most likely will never know.

I meant exactly what I said. All that you have done is note that no one ever can truly know another's internal motivations. Except to the extent that it is evidenced by his statements or actions.

Repeating,

This is kind of garbage that Democrats are pushing. They want to lean over backwards and look the other way at their peoples' corruption, but get out a microscope to find the smallest thing about Trump.

On a different level entirely, this kind of crazy is that which can only be created and propagated by lawyers. Regular people see through. And that's a major reason why Trump is where he is right now.


I think you're right in a way.

I think a large amount of people can agree that what Biden did is a problem and is a conflict of interest,  me included.

I think that the prosecutor was fired due to getting too close to Bidens son, and maybe Biden had another cover -- as the prosecutor maybe was corrupt as well. So Biden had been able to get away with both.
1836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kamala Harris Calls For Formal Impeachment Inquiry Into Brett Kavanaugh on: October 02, 2019, 01:39:09 PM
Donald Trump should be ashamed of letting that guy into his administration who brags about drinking alcohol with his anus, when his own brother dies from alcoholism.

What in gods hell.

I think he's referring to the death of Trumps brother from alcoholism, which is true. Which is exactly the reason Trump himself doesn't drink.

Unsure about the anus part.

... they should stop with the witch hunt because it has become way too obvious.

Let them pay the price of continuing with an obvious farce, then.

The 'price' is getting Trump in for at least the start of a 2nd term (before Yael Kushner takes over as the Trump brand figurehead.)  For the Dems this is a 'please don't throw me in the brier patch' type of thing.  Their instructions from their masters are to arrange for exactly that to happen which is why they put forward witches, pedo-creepers, etc when it's their turn to 'lose'.

There is a very useful analytical construct which goes 'Invert.  Always Invert.'  If you start with the basic assumption that Democrats want a Democrat in the whitehouse, all types of mental gymnastics are required to explain observations.  If, on the other hand, you drop that erroneous assumption things fall into place rather nicely.

This principle of throwing elections is certainly not limited to 'the Democtrats.'  The Republicans did it with McCain/Palin and with the Mormon.  If you realize that the 'two party paradigm' is nothing but gas-light fraud then it all makes a lot more sense.   All presidents are compliant on getting certain constructs in place and it takes more than 4 years to really solidify things like the medical/industrial peep-trap and money machine that we call a health care for instance.



See I've always said something like this, not as extreme as you put it, but yeah.

I truly do think that the two party system is a 'batman needs the joker' system. Where if the other party wasn't there, the other party wouldn't be relevant. Do you know why the RNC can raise large amounts of funds from businesses, individual business owners, oil companies etc -- it's because the DNC is around and they're able to fear monger money out of their donors.

That's how this sytem works.

The RNC and DNC wouldn't be relevant without each-other on the other end pushing money into the system. It's why every politician goes into lobbying / consulting after they're done with public office.
1837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 02, 2019, 01:13:15 PM
Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

If you want to point at history. Clintons impeachment was low as well, and he was impeached but wasn't found guility in the senate. Clinton was someone who had used the impeachment effort against him to frame Republicans as partisan and out to get him for personal matters. Clinton won his second term and Dems won many seats in both chambers.

I don't think I'd say that's pretty high. Even if 40 percent of the public or 44 percent of the public supports impeachment -- that still leaves a large number of Amercians who DONT support impeachment.

Look at something like the RNC and Trumps reelection campaign raising tons and tons of money off of this whole thing. They're literally breaking records when they raised 125m in one quarter.
1838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you really think U.S. government worries about drugs? on: October 02, 2019, 01:09:37 PM
Does the US government worry about the influx of illegal drugs into the country? Yes.

But they worry about in the wrong way. The US government always has, and for the foreseeable future, always will treat drugs a certain way. Instead of treating drug addicts as addicts, they treat them as criminals. Instead of getting them the help that they need, they put them in prison cells for long periods of time for non violent possession charges. Now at this point in history, Americans don't support long mandatory minimums for non violent drug charges -- but many other groups support it.

Here are some of the people: Police Unions, Sheriffs Unions, Private Prisons, Public Prisons, Correctional Unions, Big Pharma, and so on and so forth.

At the moment, the US government should really legalize Marijuana (or, let the states decide instead of leaving their weird gray area for states that do legalize marijuana) and then they should lower the criminal jail time for people that are non violent drug offenders.

For the amount of money that we may to put these people into cells, we could truly get them help and get them back on track on their life. But instead, we let money get into the way of a horrible health issue that is ravaging the nation.
1839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: While people stare at Trumps Ukraine comments, Biden is let off the hook. on: October 02, 2019, 12:56:42 PM
Also -- the prosecutor had been forced out because of his investigation??? Isn't that what we're all saying here.

Yes, that's what you're all saying here because this is an echo chamber outside of my opinion. I'm glad you at least framed it as a question, because that's what it is: a question. We don't know the answer. Of course its easy to assume that's the case if you don't like Biden.

I do agree with you about the "conflict of interest" part. As I've said before I don't know what Hunter Biden was doing there other than using his last name to make big bucks. I'm not going to say Biden's conversation was "perfect" when he bragged about having the prosecutor fired. Perhaps that will become its own investigation, if its not already. However, I don't see him being destroyed over this. If he slips in the polls, perhaps it will just be a better entrance for my man Bernie, so I actually wouldn't mind it. I just don't see that happening, however. I think there's a 90% chance he'll still be the dem nominee.

Well yeah -- it's a question to me as well. We're most likely never actually going to know if that was the reason that the prosecutor was fired. We're all just going to form our different theories here. Very easy to assume if you don't like Biden....

When you have Joe Biden bragging about threatening to get the prosecutor fired by with holding a billion dollars, said prosecutor being fired exactly when Biden threatened them, you have no factual basis to make the claim bolded above.

This is kind of garbage that Democrats are pushing. They want to lean over backwards and look the other way at their peoples' corruption, but get out a microscope to find the smallest thing about Trump.

On a different level entirely, this kind of crazy is that which can only be created and propagated by lawyers. Regular people see through. And that's a major reason why Trump is where he is right now.

Just to further explain what I meant when I typed that -- if you were to see I had been talking about how no one will know the exact reason that he was fired.

Biden is going to say he was fired by an international effort to remove him due to corruption.
Trump is going to say the prosecutor was fired due to going after Bidens son, Hunter Biden.

We know that the prosecutor was fired because of Biden forcing him out, yes, no one disagrees there. But no one knows the true reason that Biden had pushed for his removal. And we most likely will never know.
1840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: While people stare at Trumps Ukraine comments, Biden is let off the hook. on: October 01, 2019, 05:12:37 PM
Also -- the prosecutor had been forced out because of his investigation??? Isn't that what we're all saying here.

Yes, that's what you're all saying here because this is an echo chamber outside of my opinion. I'm glad you at least framed it as a question, because that's what it is: a question. We don't know the answer. Of course its easy to assume that's the case if you don't like Biden.

I do agree with you about the "conflict of interest" part. As I've said before I don't know what Hunter Biden was doing there other than using his last name to make big bucks. I'm not going to say Biden's conversation was "perfect" when he bragged about having the prosecutor fired. Perhaps that will become its own investigation, if its not already. However, I don't see him being destroyed over this. If he slips in the polls, perhaps it will just be a better entrance for my man Bernie, so I actually wouldn't mind it. I just don't see that happening, however. I think there's a 90% chance he'll still be the dem nominee.

Well yeah -- it's a question to me as well. We're most likely never actually going to know if that was the reason that the prosecutor was fired. We're all just going to form our different theories here. Very easy to assume if you don't like Biden.

Without a doubt what Hunter Biden was doing. He was using his name to help a company look better as they were in a very tough time. I even said before, it's not rare for someone with literally no experience in that particular industry or company to be on the board of that company.

I'm just pointing out that this is a conflict of interest. That's it.
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