dai qalcosa allora a casa abbiamo portato
abbiamo portato che i primi tre sono italiani e lo sapevamo
abbiamo portato che il prossimo anno forse le regole saranno migliori e mi pare di capire che su questo punto siamo tutti felici
insomma quest'anno solo cose buone se volete
intanto io ho mangiato un buon calzone
Già, il calzone è pizza? No, è un calzone. |
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Gli ETF sono dei fondi che ti permettono di comprare dei panieri di azioni a cambio di una commissione di gestione, normalmente estremamente bassa. Il vantaggio è che non sei esposto direttamente su una sola compagnia ma tante, quindi anche se una dovesse fallire tu non hai perso i tuoi soldi. È una spiegazione molto terra terra però diciamo che per chi non sta dietro al mondo della finanza 24/7 e non ha davvero informazioni di prima mano (insomma tutti tranne @Paolo.Demidov probabilmente  ), un PAC su qualche ETF è la soluzione più semplice e meno rischiosa a meno di non comprare qualche porcheria. Tornando a BlackRock, loro gestiscono svariati trilioni di dollari, se anche una percentuale minima dei loro investitori dovesse iniziare a comprare questo ipotetico ETF su bitcoin (che sarebbe spot, quindi acquisti reali) vorrebbe dire che entrerebbe nel mercato crypto una quantità di soldi veramente importante. grazie per la spiegazione che mi hai dato, ho capito in parte ma qualcosa ho capito quindi se esce sto etf sui bitcoin è una cosa buona mi stai dicendo come mai non viene approvato allora? quale è il rischio, non capisco il motivo della non approvazione Oddio sul fatto che sia una cosa buona lo scopriremo solamente se e quando verrà approvato. Da un lato vorrebbe dire che potenzialmente potrebbero riversarsi decine se non centinaia di miliardi nel mercato in un tempo relativamente breve; dall'altro vuol dire che gli istituzionali potrebbero mettersi in pancia una bella quantità di bitcoin, e questo potrebbe essere meno positivo. Infine se iniziano a esserci questo genere di società di mezzo gli stati potrebbero anche fare leggi più stringenti, è pur sempre una possibilità. Riguardo il discorso della possibilità di mancata approvazione non saprei darti una risposta precisa, so che in passato vari ETF sono stati rifiutati, immagino che per la SEC non ci fossero abbastanza rassicurazioni per proteggere i compratori etc. Ma poi si torna sempre al solito punto: cosa vuole esattamente la SEC? Nessuno lo ha capito perché non danno risposte chiare... |
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That's true, a lot of people I've seen complaining about their exchange accounts getting compromised and their assets being stolen because they have been keeping all their assets in their exchange account which is a big mistake, someone should only keep a specific amount of money in exchange, the money that they use as their trading capital if they are making trades regularly.
If someone doesn't make trades on a daily or a regular basis, they should simply keep their assets in a non-custodial wallet where they will be the only ones to have access to them and no one can access them unless they leak their seed phrase or private keys.
To be fair, it's kinda hassle for some people to move in and out their funds between exchange and their wallet and to be honest back then, I was like that when I was day trading in Binance. After I learned the horror stories of people getting their funds frozen, I started to slap myself so bad that I would not do that every again. It depends on what you use the exchanges for: if you do daily trading then you have to leave the funds on the exchange, there is no other solution. Is it a risk? Yes, of course. If you buy for the long term and you leave the funds on the exchange because you're lazy it's a totally different story. Personally I just leave on exchanges some shit coins, I would never leave a single satoshi. |
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1. DESIRE: You should have a desire to be rich! Most of people wants to be rich by they do not have desire to become one. They simple say it but they do not put work for it. There is a big different on saying you want to become rich and you will become rich. Be sure that you are one of the people who have desire and consistently saying that you will become rich because desire is energy. And if you do not have energy, you cannot put work and effort for you to become one.
This is an interesting point mainly because it's very subjective: for some people being rich means having huge amount of money, for others is having a small house and a happy family. But no matter how you live, you will always need money, that is the only common factor for each one of us. Not everyone is willing to sacrifice the best years of his/her life to become rich, and sometimes could be enough to invest in the right assets, be patient, and live a comfortable life. |
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Inoltre come board detentrice di 3 badge dell'ultimo contest e sicuramente patria della pizza dovremmo avere maggiore voce in capitolo delle regole.
Oddio non so come potrebbe venire vista una proposta del genere, forse è chiedere un po' troppo  Dovremmo creare un fronte comune a sostegno delle regole che verranno decise qui, nella nostra sezione, e poi proporre il tutto nel thread ufficiale ma personalmente eviterei di tirare troppo la corda, già avere regole come quelle che ha postato @fillippone sarebbe oro colato rispetto allo schifo attuale. |
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Quindi o ci danno un contest degno di essere tale per questo forum oppure prometto di organizzarlo io stesso.
Organizzare un concorso è relativamente semplice però deve anche essere approvato a livello ufficiale e immagino che Theymos non accetterà mai due concorsi sulla pizza. Al tempo stesso trovo anche difficile pensare subentrare a chi organizza attualmente il concorso, a meno che lui stesso non si faccia da parte. |
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"Not your keys, not your coins" is what we would say. Take your bitcoins off exchanges so you can sleep peacefully at night. I know about software wallets like Electrum, but this is not about them; it's about hardware wallets, assuming they are my preference.
Does the price(how much it costs) of a Bitcoin hardware wallet determine how secure your bitcoins will be when you use them? Or, rather, as the main factor of being opened source, does the price to determine the security of my bitcoins when using a hardware wallet?
I am not sure I would ever buy a $5 hardware wallet, so in a certain way the price plays a role. Anyway if you take a closer look many hardware wallet work in a very similar way, oftentimes some are more expensive than others just because they spend more money in advertisements and marketing, so somehow they need to get that money back, and how do they do that? Increasing the prices of course. |
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6 months ago, my savings went down because of the FTX debacle. I've never used FTX, I've never been a customer of this company, but my savings are in BTC, and because of that failure, BTC's value went down, and so went my savings.
Today, bis repetita. I've never used Binance. I've never been a customer of this company, but because the SEC sues Binance, BTC is down, and so are my savings, so I have a message to all bitcoiners out there.
Exchanges and BTC are 2 different things. One exchange going down doesn't mean BTC must follow.
Binance will disappear? I don't give a damn.
First of all you are mixing Binance and Binance US, and those are two completely separate entities. If Binance created Binance US is exactly to avoid problem with the main exchange because they know how things (don't) work in the US thanks to the SEC. Now let's talk about exchanges: does bitcoin need exchanges? No. Do ordinary people need exchanges because they're the simplest way to buy crypto? I would say yes. If you care only about bitcoin's existence then you're fine, if you care also about bitcoin's value then you shouldn't be here hoping that exchanges fail. |
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Is been a hard knocked to everyone trading bitcoin this seasons especially investment, my friend was sore disappointed for the recent falling of price because he bought $1000 bitcoin but the truth is that we cannot foresees the future in today, this is not the first time the price is Reding down, we should take advantage of this time at least you can use a small to purchase high value bitcoin. I wish we've profound bitcoin price analyst here, many people really wants to know the cause of continues price deflected, if you've ideas please your comments will be very important here. We newbies this days fall victims a lot because of ignorance of cryptosystem. Let's talk as a family.
Probably your friend now is way happier due to the recent price increase. Anyway if he gets so anxious for $1k, which I understand in some countries is a lot of money, maybe he invested more that he should have invested. Bitcoin price is always pretty volatile, if he gets worried now I can't even image what could happen during a long bear market... |
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With all this catastrophic litigation against Binance and Coinbase and a legal battle against Greyscale by none other than the SEC, two asset managers Blackrock and Fidelity are applying for their own Bitcoin ETFs. ( Source). BlackRock manages ~8.1 trillion dollars worth of assets and a Fidelity manages ~4.2 trillion. Fidelity also wants to buy out Greyscale, who themselves would be in big financial trouble if these ETFs get approved - and they very much look likely to be, because these managers have a good record of getting their ETFs approved. For reference, the entire crypto market cap is around ~1 trillion dollars (also from Reddit). I am extremely curious to see the result of BlackRock's application because usually when they apply for an ETF, they get approved. It's going to take a while for sure, it's not going to be quick, but if there is a bitcoin ETF that could actually be approved it's BlackRock's. Potentially there is a ton of money waiting to flood into the market. |
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Pero nel badge c'è scritto a tutti 2022 lol
Sappiamo tutti che questo forum alla fine è una specie di Internet Explorer Con questa mi hai fatto veramnte ridere, pero se in effetti tolgono l'anno non devono cambiare ogni anno il badge no? CHiaramente la mia è una soluzione da scemo che non capisce niente, ma io farei in questo modo, senza bisogno di fare fatica ogni anno Non sono molto esperto del concorso avendovi partecipato solamente poche settimane fa per la prima però, da quello che mi pare di aver capito, il badge con la fetta di pizza non è per sempre, è temporaneo: l'anno scorso era per tutto l'anno (quindi fino al concorso nuovo), quest'anno dovrebbe essere solamente per 3 mesi. Non chiedermi il perché, io lo avrei lasciato fisso e se uno vinceva due concorsi (tipo @fillippone) allora avrebbe avuto un secondo badge, ne vinci 3 e allora hai 3 badge. Ma come spesso accade su questo forum si prendono decisioni particolari... |
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Un pò poco?
Se devo risponderti con gli occhi della SEC, si, un pò poco. MI sa che il record di Blackrock, sarà peggiorato. Anche perché , se a fronte di questa minuscola assicurazione in più venisse davvero approvato l'ETF, fioccherebbero le cause da tutti quelli che si sono visti bocciare (ripetutamente) gli ETF precedentemente sottoposti. Scusate l'estrema ignoranza, non so cosa sia un EFT e non ho capito quello che intendete. Non voglio che me lo spieghiate, pare troppo difficile. Volevo sapere cosa cambia per bitcoin se ne approvano uno, cosa cambia? Gli ETF sono dei fondi che ti permettono di comprare dei panieri di azioni a cambio di una commissione di gestione, normalmente estremamente bassa. Il vantaggio è che non sei esposto direttamente su una sola compagnia ma tante, quindi anche se una dovesse fallire tu non hai perso i tuoi soldi. È una spiegazione molto terra terra però diciamo che per chi non sta dietro al mondo della finanza 24/7 e non ha davvero informazioni di prima mano (insomma tutti tranne @Paolo.Demidov probabilmente ), un PAC su qualche ETF è la soluzione più semplice e meno rischiosa a meno di non comprare qualche porcheria. Tornando a BlackRock, loro gestiscono svariati trilioni di dollari, se anche una percentuale minima dei loro investitori dovesse iniziare a comprare questo ipotetico ETF su bitcoin (che sarebbe spot, quindi acquisti reali) vorrebbe dire che entrerebbe nel mercato crypto una quantità di soldi veramente importante. |
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Kids learn about a lot of useless stuff in school but bitcoin is something with actual use they can learn about. So I think it's a good thing if they learn about it.
Some subjects taught in the school are really useless for their lives futurely, as they won't have any practical application later. And I would extend this to what children are taught by the media and internet. They put so much attention and time on useless matters disseminated by influencers and so called specialists, generating huge income for these people through clicks, views and purchases, that I think it shouldn't hurt to have some notion about Bitcoin since an early age, because that is something which will actually benefit them in some years. Anyway, let children decide... Nothing done forced, through power usage have positive results. All parents can do is to advise and show the way. What children will do with the advices received, it's up to them. What subjects do you think being taught in school is useless? because as we know, knowledge is endless, the more knowledge we have, the more opportunities we have in life. There are several taughts inside Mathematics and native language subject that we only see at school, which don't have practical usage later on the professional life. And depending the field the person is going to work, matters from other subjects like History, Biology, Chemistry, Physics and others can be also useless. Actually, school should introduce the child to the areas they have interest for, so the education would be directed to their future professional life. There are some projects with this approach for the educational system, but they haven't been approved yet. I agree that some thing they teach in school have really no day life real use unless you pursuit a very specific carrier. At the same time some people say they teach you those things to "open your mind" and even though they're pretty much useless you're training your brain. I think the truth is in the middle, it's ok to teach some things just because you actually need to think and make an effort to solve them but at the same time school doesn't really prepare you for the real world, I see too much theoretical things and little, in any, practical things. Besides bitcoin the simple fact that there is no explanation of how money/economy works is absolutely insane. |
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This and many more is the reason behind my current confidence in Bitcoin's ability never to let me lose if I hold for a long time.
Indeed knowledge is power, because knowledge can save you when money failed, because knowledge failure is a lifetime problem but money failure in terms of investment is temporally and if I wait I will soon be in profit again very soon, that is what past records have shown and proven.
I must say, I admire your courage for purchasing BTC before you actually studied it. Normally. potential investors would first study and research the market before they commit to an investment. Though the price of BTC has went down and somehow stabilized, this should not discourage anyone from attempting to invest in this space due to its sheer potential in the future. It depends what you mean by "actually study it": bitcoin's purpose is pretty easy and straight forwarding to understand, and you don't need to be a financial expert or have some sort of financial degree to realize that countries keep printing money out of nothing, so inflation will be worse and worse every year. If you get those two points you are ready to buy bitcoin. Then you can go deeper on all the other related topics, especially the more technical ones, but in my opinion you don't need to know everything about bitcoin in order to buy it. |
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First five winners will also get to wear a Bitcoin Pizza badge for the next 3 months!
The Betnomi Custom Ledger Nano X will be raffled soon between the first 10 winners (Mendace, fillipponee, Ale88, Petulino, Not your key not your btc, pixie85, icopress, acroman08, light_warrior, Bbigtart). A block number will be announced and the last two digits will reveal the winner. Another block will be announced if the winner declines the prize.
I hope no one minds if I choose the numbers for each myself (to speed up the process). We will play with block 795100 (the last character of the hash will decide the winner). 0 - Mendace
1 - fillipponee
2 - Ale88
3 - Petulino
4 - Not your key not your btc
5 - pixie85
6 - icopress
7 - acroman08
8 - light_warrior
9 - Bbigtart
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f - Let's start over if the last character is a letter. All good luck friends!  That's fine for me, no problem at all. |
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In a recent CNBC interview, U.S. Congressman Brad Sherman openly expressed his hope for the end of cryptocurrencies, a stance that will ruffle the feathers of crypto enthusiasts. "I hope so, don't think so," was Sherman's succinct response when asked if the ongoing crackdown signaled the end of cryptocurrencies in America. His caustic comment follows recent regulatory actions taken by the SEC against major cryptocurrency exchanges, Binance and Coinbase. The Congressman, who is well-known for his anti-crypto stance, took issue with the idea that cryptocurrencies could benefit the economy or consumers, stating that their primary use was to evade the U.S. government and sanctions. Read more on U.Today https://u.today/is-this-the-end-of-crypto-this-us-congressman-hopes-soSo you're asking if a single country could end bitcoin and the crypto world? Do you really think bitcoin needs the USA? I don't think so. China tried to do the same thing and look now what is going on with Hong Kong, endorsed by China of course. This is just (another) battle the US can't win, the sooner they understand that the better for everyone. |
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?
I feel somehow about my friend because I just found out that he has been into Bitcoin for a long time, probably before me, what's surprising to me is whenever I tried to enlighten him about Bitcoin he always Shawn me down and say he has no interest..
Today I get to know from a relative of his, who thought that we are into Bitcoin investment together, a coincidence that brings up some suspicious thought, now I am left with thoughts of why he was hiding this all along from me?
At first I though maybe he was scared bringing me along, but it doesn't make any sense because I thought I knew better than him and I needed to teach him.
What do you think is probably ongoing here? Privacy, personal safety, possibility of people asking for money... There are a ton of different reason someone, even a close friend, would not tell others about his investments, at the end of the day we're talking about money and people can get jealous or even aggressive regarding this topic. Don't take it personally, that's my advise. |
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I've been holding BTC since 2020. 2 weeks ago when inflation data came out saying core CPI went up a lot i sold my BTC at 18,000$.At first it seemed i made right choice since stocks went almost -3% premarket and i thought we're gonna have final capitulation in both stocks and BTC, that it will go down to 13-15k.
Well when market opened everything just went up, ended like almost +3% at the end of the day. It was the perfect explanation why you shouldn't time the market. I made a huge mistake and i really refuse to buy BTC at now higher price.
It really seems BTC bottomed at 17.5k and stocks(SP 500) at 3480.
Now market is pumping like crazy,its obvious we won't go back to 18k or below.
Good luck to all, i hope you're smarter than me
Why shouldn't you buy bitcoin again? You made a mistake, we all make mistakes, the fact that you recognize you were wrong instead of blaming "the whales/the government/your neighbor" already is a good sign. But the worst mistake, in my opinion, would be forgetting about bitcoin. When you feel ready just buy again, you will have less BTC, we have all thrown money away, that's how life works, now you won't make the same mistake again. |
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Insomma pump, ritorno a 28k, dump forte, retest dei minimi e poi vera ripartenza. Stiamo parlando di valori attorno ai $15k-16k quindi? Per minimi ti riferisci proprio a quanto successo post exit scam di FTX? Perché se vedi un ritorno a $28k vuol dire praticamente perdere il 50% del valore, sarebbe una calo veramente importante e mi sentirei di dire esagerato in assenza di eventi veramente catastrofici. No no scherzi? Stavo facendo un esempio dei movimenti di breve termine per fari capire il rumore. Intendevo pump sui 28k crash sui 24k e ripartenza del trimestrale (come movimento manipolatorio possibile di chiusura semestrale) Io onestamente i 15k proprio non ce lo vedo proprio. Ah ok, ora ha più senso. Quando sento menzionare i minimi penso sempre automaticamente ai minimi di questo macro ciclo e quindi la mia testa va direttamente a $15k-16k, valori che sarei estremamente sorpreso di vedere nuovamente. Ma dato che c'è gente che aspetta ancora i $3-5k tutto è possibile Se il "crash" fosse a $24k sarebbe un bicchier d'acqua visto quello a cui siamo abituati. Ricordo che tanti europei han già fatto all time high in queste condizioni, il Nasdaq è già in modalità missile e titoli come Apple è di nuovo in all time high. Il gold ha gia fatto all time high etc..
Sarei curioso di sapere cosa ne pensi dell'azionario, mi sembra strano che continui a salire con questo ritmo, mi pare veramente esagerato... |
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SEC right now is hunting every exchanges in US
So? The US don't understand they're just throwing away a huge opportunity to make a ton of money and bring even more money. At this point is clear that the SEC is abusing its power because they don't make clear rules, they don't give explanations, they don't answer, the only thing is trying to fine/sue/shut down exchanges just because someone else told them to do it. Several congressmen are asking for a serious investigation within the SEC. |
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