non sono caproni sanno benissimo cosa vogliono fare.
Diciamo che forse dovrebbero organizzare un po' meglio i loro piani, non sembrano esattamente preparati: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhA1dZXeao0Parte più interessante (a mio modo di vedere ovviamente)sono coloro che vendono "in preda al panico" o peggio sperando di speculare. La storia si ripete sempre, non si impara mai nulla. Guardiamo il lato positivo, "notizie" del genere 5 anni fa avrebbero portato a discese molto più importanti. |
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I propose to introduce a new rule for the next contest: it is forbidden to distribute a link to your pizza in various forum topics, which, moreover, are not related to the theme of bitcoin pizza, and openly agitate for users to vote for a particular pizza. This is cheating and an attempt to cheat votes. I believe that such behavior should be punished by disqualification of the one who does so.
Campaigning during the voting period has always been prohibited.
If also the next pizza contest will be voted on Discord then it'll simply be, again, a prize for the best cheater, not the best pizza. There are users with Discord and Telegram channels, or Twitter, FB groups etc, how would you know if they post it there and tell their friends/followers to vote for them? The only way is to vote on the forum, and only users registered before a certain date and have accumulated a certain amount of merits should be allowed to vote otherwise it's just a joke. I understand this contest is supposed to be made just as a fun thing but when people decide to cheat even for something like this everything changes and who is to blame? Those who complain or those who cheat? |
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Ho i miei dubbi che un domani si accetterà di vivere in una topaia. Presumo che tu non conosca i "coffin apartments" di Hong Kong  L'essere umano sa sempre come adattarsi in un modo o nell'altro, che poi faccia una vita di merd@ è un altro discorso. E non dimentichiamo che già in passato sono esistiti popoli che vivevano sottoterra. |
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The only way to keep a minimum of credibility at this point is to have people posting on this thread their Discord votes, if someone is not registered/doesn't post here then the vote doesn't count otherwise let's just all buy votes online and that's it. better to not use vote, the admin should form to build a jury to assessment. I hear someone sell service discord vote in marketplace. You can buy that type of services anywhere, not only on the forum, and exactly for that reason voting on Discord is totally pointless, you just need to tell your friends to vote for you or buy the votes, that's it. But again, what's the point of the contest then? Awarding the best pizza or awarding the best cheater? I can submit a salad (like someone did), buy 1k votes and the best pizza would be a salad. Does that make any sense? |
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In realtà ci sarebbe da dire che secondo le recenti ricerche scientifiche, gli esseri umani del futuro dovrebbero essere più alti, con la schiena curva (per via dell'utilizzo continuo dello smartphone) e con occhi giganti. Guardando una possibile simulazione degli stessi sembriamo dei veri e propri alieni un domani, quindi non oso immaginare come ci evolveremo tra 1000 anni  Tra 1000 anni, visto l'andazzo attuale, mi chiedo se l'essere umano sarà ancora in grado di vivere in superficie visto il ritmo dell'innalzamento delle temperature. Non per nulla un sacco di super-ricchi si costruisce bunker sotterranei. Quanto sarà bello vivere in stile Fallout poi non lo so ma alla fine l'istinto primordiale è la sopravvivenza. |
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This is probably one of the largest Bitcointalk Pizza Party contest, but I have to say that I am surprised by the amount of crap some people posted as pizza.
We need to have something like alternative shame voting for worst submissions, this people need to learn what pizza is, you can't put lemon, potato and call it a pizza.
Anyway, good luck everyone. I think there should be rule next time to be qualified for Pizza Contest and pizza yeast ,sauce and some other ingredients should be mandatory to use. At least the dish should be called Pizza. An example of potato dish is like altcoins holder claim that he is holder of BTC. I agree, I know it sounds ridiculous but at this point it's better to specify what pizza is and what the basic ingredients and cooking process are. I see that in the discord all pizzas got 1 vote each while two pizzas got 10 votes each (to be honest I think someone texted friends or something like that).
Or they created multiple accounts... just sayin. Creating discord account is quite easy and if you have number of email then its just like ABC. i am also aware of multiple discord accounts bot which can do 1000 vote in very less time. these bot are commonly used by airdrop hunters. every body should be honest otherwise greedy user will try to cheat by providing fake votes which will spoil the fun of the competition[/quote] The only way to keep a minimum of credibility at this point is to have people posting on this thread their Discord votes, if someone is not registered/doesn't post here then the vote doesn't count otherwise let's just all buy votes online and that's it. |
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I really don't get this obsession for Discord, why is it so important to vote on Discord rather than using the forum? Cyrus (or someone else) will correct me if I am wrong, but idea of having Bitcoin pizza bakeoff on Discord was a sort of attempt to make Bitcointalk Discord server more lively and it kinda became tradition to host it there. Discord is just a mess and there is plenty of space to cheat, it totally kills the contest.
It makes cheating much easier, that's for sure. And unfortunately, when there is money incentive there will always be certain amount of people that will try to cheat. I didn't even know there was a Bitcointalk Discord server and I don't understand the point, where should we discuss? On the forum? On Discord? Then what about Telegram? Maybe I'm old school (or just old) but the forum is more than enough, I don't get why posting on the forum and then posting also on Discord and voting there, and all the merits earned on the forum (for the pizzas) are pointless. And not everyone has/uses Discord. It's my first year participating but it's all very confusing to be honest. In that case, I would like to add an additional 5 mBTC to the prize pool (on behalf of MixTum).
However, if we come up with some more transparent and at the same time simple and fun way to vote, I would make sure that next year the prize pool would be several thousand dollars in bitcoins.
I know that you have best intentions, but if people keep adding more money to this contest, it will just create more drama and there will more complaints and more cheat attempts. Thats simply how it goes around here. Imho, pizza badge should be reward enough and that way you would eliminate a lot of bad things from happening and still keep it somewhat fun and relax contest. I'm totally down for the pizza badge alone, and I would make it permanent, not just for one year. If someone wins again then he'll have 2 badges instead of one. |
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To be honest, I think the voting system should be changed as it's really funny at the moment (because some of the pizzas on display are culinary arts). But at the same time, these pizzas did not receive due attention. I see that in the discord all pizzas got 1 vote each while two pizzas got 10 votes each (to be honest I think someone texted friends or something like that). As long as voting is done on Discord, there will be some sort room for manipulation. Something similar happened in the first contest, when one of the participants invited his friends (that had no connection with bitcointalk whatsoever) + bunch of brand new Discord accounts voted for him so (obviously made just for that ocassion) so in the end he shared the first place with me. The only way to avoid something like that is if only verified accounts (Discord members who are also part of bitcointalk) of certain rank can vote, but I don't know how feasible is to do something like that. Or to have voting done on bitcointalk. I really don't get this obsession for Discord, why is it so important to vote on Discord rather than using the forum? Simply members with merits can vote, 1-2-3+ merits always count as 1 vote anyway and that's it. Is it perfect? No, but for sure it's easier to "recognize" the users and people can't make new accounts or telling friends that have nothing to do with the forum. We can also add a registration date, for example only users with at least 6 months of posting can vote. Discord is just a mess and there is plenty of space to cheat, it totally kills the contest. |
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I will repeat what I've said in previous years: This is supposed to be a fun little* event. If someone tries to ruin the fun they will likely be disqualified anyway. And if this stops being fun for people it will stop being organized.
Let's call this a social experiment with prizes. From the start, I didn't want to create rules for every conceivable case, caveat and exemption. There is no such thing as a perfect system anyway.
So far nobody ruined our fun and am hoping this will continue this year!
* This is not such a little event anymore. Las year we had a record 50 entries, now over double that... 113 pizzas! Thank you @John Abraham for you help in posting the (many) entries that were missing.
As every year, I truly am hoping our fun won't be spoiled this year either because some of us have some big ideas for next year's event!
If I can suggest a valid alternative for next year, I suggest you keep the contest within the forum and use the merit system for voting with the max limit. of only 1 merit as a vote. This does not allow external votes and keeps the vote closely linked to the pizza and its success. I totally agree with you, everybody can vote on Discord, I don't understand why the voting isn't kept within the forum so it's possible to see who voted for who and whether the account is legit or not based on the registration date. |
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Concorso 2023 ufficialmente terminato, molti partecipanti: The contest is over! It's been amazing... we had a record 50 pizzas last year and this year we likely doubled it!
Ma quindi il badge sotto l'avatar sarebbe solo per un anno? Peccato, io lo avrei lasciato fisso, ad esempio se @fillippone dovesse vincere ancora ne avrebbe due, sarebbe più carino secondo me. |
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L'ho vista, molto ben fatta e ottima presentazione! Icopress è ucraino, davvero notevole. |
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Post aggiornato con le 4 pizze della sezione italiana, oramai siamo agli sgoccioli... |
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it may well be better to allow that one to be entered and to attempt to receive votes.. rather than completely leaving such a submission out of the contest... If it's a pizza contest and someone submits an entry that is clearly not a pizza, what's the point then? If next year we make a pasta contest would you ever submit a risotto or a salad? Are you suggesting that pizza has actually been clearly defined? Then yeah no problem. Are you going to presume that anyone looked at the dictionary for the definition of pizza or to know what is the definition of pizza if it has not been pointed out? That's seems to be the point that I was attempting to make, which is people might have differing definitions of what is a pizza if such definition has not clearly been made from the start... For example if the definition of pizza is that it has to have tomato sauce.. or it has to have bread or it has to have cheese or it has to be cooked in some kind of an enclosed space (oven)? Can you make a pizza that would qualify in the contest without tomato sauce, without bread, without cheese, cooked in a pan or on a non-enclosed grill? Hypothetically speaking, within a contest, pizza could have a variety of crazy-ass definitions including but not limited to that all pizza submissions must have some kind of a green vegetable (such as lettuce), noodles, corn, pineapple and/or anchovies contained therein.  I'm sorry but are we actually debating what is considered pizza in 2023? Just a quick copy-paste from Wikipedia: Pizza is a dish of Italian origin consisting of a usually round, flat base of leavened wheat-based dough topped with tomatoes, cheese, and often various other ingredients, which is then baked at a high temperature, traditionally in a wood-fired oven. [ source] If the "pizza" is not baked of course it can't be considered a pizza. If someone uses cake ingredients it can't be considered a pizza. I'm not saying that all the pizzas must be exactly as stated above but at least some basic steps must be followed. I am not debating what is a pizza. I am merely pointing out that if pizza has not been defined then it would not be fair to impose a definition after the contest has already started.... Regarding your wikipedia reference, was wikipedia pointed out as the "official definition" of pizza for the purpose of this contest? #askingforafriend... myself   By the way, in the end, I don't care that much regarding the extent to which the contest is fair or not - except stating my opinion regarding if the goal were to be to have a fair contest, then it is probably better to have the definitions of: "what is a pizza" for example, in the beginning of the contest, not being made up on the fly after a contest had already started. I can't believe we're still discussing about what a pizza is because for you is acceptable to make a rice salad and call it a pizza. Please don't insult my intelligence, there is no need to "clearly define" a pizza for this type of contest, just google pizza and compare the images: do they look like rice salad? Do they look like unbaked stuff? Do they look like a mix of ketchup and mayonnaise thrown in a plate? If someone is writing on this forum it means he has internet access, they ask you to make a pizza then just google what a pizza is, that's it. |
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PS: ti prego @giammangiato, correggi il post sopra che mi sanguinano gli occhi a quel “metti”.
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If I order a pizza, the waiter must bring me a circular pasta cooked in the oven (preferably wood-fired) with a layer of tomato on the surface up to half a centimeter from the edge covered with mozzarella.
This is the basis.
Not really, this is your preference. If we follow your description pizza al taglio is not a pizza. Pizza bianca is also not a pizza and pizza marinara is not a pizza. That said, An omelet is not pizza.
Ramen noodles mixed with eggs is not pizza.
A potato pancake with toppings is not pizza.
I agree with you (sorry @mendace ), as long as it's made using a dough and it's baked, for me it's enough. No matter the shape, no matter the thickness nor the sauce, just bake it! |
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it may well be better to allow that one to be entered and to attempt to receive votes.. rather than completely leaving such a submission out of the contest... If it's a pizza contest and someone submits an entry that is clearly not a pizza, what's the point then? If next year we make a pasta contest would you ever submit a risotto or a salad? I'm sorry but are we actually debating what is considered pizza in 2023? Just a quick copy-paste from Wikipedia: Pizza is a dish of Italian origin consisting of a usually round, flat base of leavened wheat-based dough topped with tomatoes, cheese, and often various other ingredients, which is then baked at a high temperature, traditionally in a wood-fired oven. [ source] If the "pizza" is not baked of course it can't be considered a pizza. If someone uses cake ingredients it can't be considered a pizza. I'm not saying that all the pizzas must be exactly as stated above but at least some basic steps must be followed. |
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Manca pochissimo alla chiusura del contest, se doveste decidere di participare all'ultimo momento non dimenticatevi di caricare la vostra pizza anche sul canale Discord: Do they have to be uploaded to Discord now too, i think no?
See the rules below; You have to upload them on Discord. Guys, Don't forget to submit Your Pizza Photo via Discord Server - Discord link; https://discord.com/invite/ahgHyku. To officially participate in the contest, upload your pizzas photo to the discord server. It seems like Cyrus did not post the rules here. I want to quote him from the Discord server. Welcome to the 2023 Bitcoin Pizza Day Contest! This is our 4th contest so far!  Rules: - Post your entry here, one entry/user. Pictures and animated GIFs are ok.
- Pick one picture/GIF which will be pinned as your entry. You can post more in the channel, though.
- The picked pictures will be pinned when the voting starts.
- Reactions are disabled on purpose. After voting starts, a reaction will be added, which you will be able to click (makes it easier to count and verify the votes).
- Vote by adding a reaction to the user's pinned entry.
- The theme: Bitcoin Pizza Day. Feel free to get creative!
Nel frattempo siamo arrivati a 80 pizze!! |
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Bella anche questa e simpatica anche la grafica Noto che ci sono anche utenti che si sono registrati appositamente per postare le loro pizze, curiosa questa cosa, immagino sia solo per il premio. EDIT: ho appena notato che hai editato il post anteriore quindi nel post riassuntivo appare ancora la versione precedente: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247383.msg62308483#msg62308483 |
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Tra l’altro ho visto di tutto nelle foto: animali, ripiani abbastanza discutibili, condizioni igieniche precarie… mah.
In effetti spesso abbiamo visto proprio di tutto tranne che la pizza |
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