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1781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title on: February 26, 2023, 10:42:02 PM
This is a good matchup for Donaire, and I have a feeling that he will be the favorite in this fight once the odds are out. His opponent has three losses, but is a very active boxer, having won all three fights last year.

I believe most of the posters here will be rooting for Donaire, but it would still be nice to put up a poll to determine who has the majority of the votes.

If Donaire is listed as the favorite, I doubt he will be a heavy favorite. He's coming off a big loss against Inoue, so he doesn't have much momentum, unlike Santiago, who is currently on a winning streak.
And to think that Santiago is a lot younger compared to Donaire, even if Donaire will be the favorite here, surely this fight will be hard to win for Donaire but if he will focus on their camp’s game plan and improve his performance in the ring, then we will see Donaire beating up Santiago inside the ring. But I must say, Santiago is never an easy boxer, with all his winning streaks last year, his vigor and fierce in boxing is incomparable.
There's really nothing to improve for the veteran anymore but more like polishing mistakes and keeping the game to his advantage. He is beyond his prime, this is not the time to take the risk of throwing haymakers that may ruin his chance to get the belt again. Be a veteran, and use whatever he learned from his broad experience in this division.
Santiago will surely be the aggressor here because this will be his first highest title fight. I would not be surprised if he will try for a knockout.
I also doubt a heavy favorite for Donaire like 1.10 - 1.30. It's good news for gamblers like me. Cheesy

More likely Santiago will be 3:1 underdog against Donaire, that's seems to be the trend for this handicappers in boxing.

Yes, nothing more to teach this old dog, he is already a veteran and maybe we can see some of his old move already but it's more polished. But for sure he will go down to his favorite left hook to finished the fight.

Or counter more as he is also known to just go box in and out with that counter left and right to confuse Santiago.
1782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury - February 26 in Saudi Arabia on: February 26, 2023, 10:35:31 PM
I'm just watching it from free streaming in Facebook though, hehehe

Not much on the first round 1, Fury using his jab though, but I don't like his stance, his hands are down, probably show boating but Paul can hit that hail Mary right hand.

I gave the round to Tommy, 10-9.
1783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 26, 2023, 10:21:42 PM
Atlanta Hawks - Brooklyn Nets

I'm watching this game on stake.com and it's being a very balanced game, with the Hawks having a little advantage, at this rate the Hawks can win this game by a small difference in points, and the nets need to stay focused and calm and avoid making mistakes, every time they are only 2 points apart or even with the same points as the Hawks they start to make mistakes and the Hawks manage to stay in a 5 point advantage, it has been like this in every game and I am not seeing changes, so I see the Hawks winning this game but for a small difference in points, I'm waiting for the odds to increase so I can take the risk of betting on the Hawks to win the game

It's gonna be a close game, but I will also agree with you that the Hawks has a good chance to win this game on their homecourt.

2 minutes to go and they are leading by 4, but to increased the odds though, the Nets will have to comeback and tie or even take the lead for that odds swing. The good thing with the Nets right now is that it has balance scoring, from Bridges, to Dinwiddie to Cam Thomas to Cam Johnson.

New set of players that brings more from the Durant trade.

Edit: Trae Young with a difficult buzzer beater, Spencer behind him and almost block the shot.
1784  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BETCOIN.AG closing my account and keeping my funds on: February 26, 2023, 10:10:41 PM
please send my deposit back to to bc1q7aulu4tx86v66xluw5c9j6je43npse9f6rmm82

are you saying that my account with username jset21 will be unlocked at 60 days with the rest of my funds withdrawable? please confirm

also - i never self excluded from this or any other account, i want it to be made perfectly clear for anyone coming accross this, that nobody excluded this account

please advise,

thanks

As they have said, the new account was flagged down by their system, because it was created from a device and ip addresses that requested a inclusion. So it's systems against your word here.

Usually they gather:
a. IP address
b. Device that you are using
c. OS of that device and other footprint that they can say that it come from the same person/account.

Since you already gave a address to send your funds back, then you have to wait 60 days.
1785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 26, 2023, 09:59:01 PM
Makabu, Ilunga - @1.52
Jack, Badou - @2.60
We don't really need a parlay as the odds are still profitable even for the favorites.

The fight is now ongoing between this two, I haven't beat on this fight as co-main event.

But so far it's very close in my opinion as of 6 although Makabu was down already in the 4th round.

Could be fitting win for Badou if he wins this fight in this comeback, and say that "he has that chance to become the first Muslim to win a title in Saudi". So let's see how the fight goes.

It was a war between this two Warriors, specially Jack Badou who I thought might be in the twilight of his career and might not be in his prime. But he dominated this fight from the beginning although I have Makabu winning some rounds.

But round 10-11 was completely dominated by Badou and then referee stop the contest already by the 12th.
1786  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: February 26, 2023, 09:53:14 PM
Taya na naman tayo kabayan, sabayan kita sa Boston -1.5 bet na yan at sama ko na rin ang Pacers ML @ 2.26 vs Magic.

Congrats kabayan, sa wakas tumama rin yong dalawang bet mo. Hindi ko nakita yong laro ng Pacers at ng Magic, yong Celtics lang at ng Sixers. Grabe ang intense ng laro, habulan yong nangyari na ayaw magpaiwan ng isang team, buti nalang at pumasok yong tres ni Tatum na siyang nag-seal sa kanilang panalo, buti nalang at nasa kamay pa ni Embiid yong bola nang umilaw at hindi counted yong tres niya, ang layo noon na parang four points na yon hehe.

Bucks -3.5 @1.90 vs Suns

Giannis ay magpapahinga pero para sa akin walang problema dahil kompleto naman sila kahit papaano at wala pa si KD para sa Suns.

Malas ang mga pili ko ngayon ah, hindi ako nanalo kahapon, talo ang Nuggets ko sa maangas na Memphis hehehe.

Tapos na pala to, nanalo na ang Bucks pero hindi na cover ang handicap, 104-101, ga-buhok lang brader, hehehe. Naglalaro na rin ang iba, aga pala ng games sa oras natin.

2 games na lang ang natitira memya, Kings ako laban sa OKC -3.5 @1.84. Isa lang muna tingnan natin kung makabawi ako o hindi.
1787  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There is no way to know unless I ask on: February 26, 2023, 09:38:18 PM
There is no way to get more knowledge in this crypto world than asking questions from those who are here before me, so friends, I will like to know if it's slightly even possible to get insurance on your bitcoin holdings? I've heard about this before but honestly, I don't have anyone close to being doing this, maybe someone on here insured their Bitcoin or it's just a fad.

I don't think this is a stupid question to ask on this forum so please take it easy on me if this sounds stupid, because, Bitcoin is decentralized, any possibility that insurance can cover something decentralized? Or you gotta give it up?

Not sure what you mean by insurance since when you have bitcoin, you control of it, as long as you have the private keys and mnemonic phrase, hence the phrase, non-custodial wallet.

But if by chance you store your bitcoin to an exchange let's say Binance, they have control of you bitcoin and or crypto. You can also get at least some sort of insurance if Binance gets hacks. But if you yourself was lose it through hacks on your account then you can't get anything from them. Not all crypto exchange though as SAFU.
1788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: February 26, 2023, 11:50:57 AM
Oh well, didn't see any of the games that I bet, Raptors won by didn't cover the spread.

While the Nuggets was blown away by the Memphis specially in the second quarter when they were out scored 33-22.

And now there were interviews and they say that they have their swagger back, Lol.
1789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Here are list of very useful chart patterns to learn and make money in crypto 🫡 on: February 25, 2023, 11:55:18 PM
Thought it was a site but I ended up opening my telegram, I don’t think this is a good idea to share information but it looks like you have a good followers already.

If you can give a more useful links to discuss these patterns it can be a big help, to beginners this is good if you are still learning trading and still learning how to use these patterns.

Yep, it's obvious a click bait as he has to point it to his telegram account, and I will say that it doesn't sit well with some of us here who have seen this kind of strategy before.

If there is onethread that can help traders, I will recommend this:

Trading Cheat Sheet Collection

It's an old thread but still relevant in my opinion.
1790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bye Bear Market :) on: February 25, 2023, 11:45:53 PM
25k is a strong resistance that bitcoin has not been able to break for the first time. If this repeats a few more times and bitcoin don't gets above 25k, we will probably see another drop, maybe even to the old bottom. By the way, the situation of stock markets around the world does not give hope that we will see good growth.
Bitcoin has passed $25K during February, but a correction is inevitable. At the moment we are only away $2K from $25K, certainly not that far but hard to stay above $25K when a lot of traders and the market tends to sell a lot instead of holding it. Several attempts to hit $25K also failed in the last few days, but that doesn't really indicate a deeper correction like you said.

For the time being, I don't think the price will correct further just because bitcoin failed to hold above $25K, but a small correction is always possible due to the influence of high selling among traders in the market.
Right now the price is around $23k and trying to keep up the resistance to stay above $23k by the falling week. The price that wasn't able to be above $25k dropped down all the way undergoing correction and reached $23k. Based on the upcoming week's start only we'll know whether this gets maintained or we gonna undergo further correction as selling is high from the traders.

I'm looking for the first 2 weeks of March to have a recovery, it's either $25k or we are going to fall back to $20k.

Either case still very good movement though, if we hit $25k then we might to go $30k. But it is goes down to at least $20k, time to buy again and keep accumulating BTC, so still a win win situation for us. And by any case, we shouldn't think that we are in a bull season, bears are still in the market and will do anything to pull the price. Not manipulation per se, but they wanted to buy when the price is low on pushing the market to make a huge correction. So still up to us on how we are going to play.
1791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: February 25, 2023, 11:35:20 PM
Yes, let's just wait if we can watch this fight without having to pay huge price, hehehe. Much better if we can used that money to bet and try to get to watch it for free from some streaming services or those who are willing to share it in social media like Facebook.

But I like what @serjent05 says, we still need to be very careful, there will be a lot of clickbait websites out there that might take advantage of this event to install malicious malwares or anything that not only harm our computers, but those who will steal information.
1792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue - WBC and WBO 122 lbs bout - May on: February 25, 2023, 11:25:19 PM
@danherbias07  - It was the Olympics though that Roy Jones was robbed of the gold medal, so it can't be compare and that was a long time ago. But in any case I agree that Fulton needs to go to Japan and handle his business with the Monster.

That's the only way he can really gain the respect of being a champion, but beating Inoue in his home town. Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.
1793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) on: February 25, 2023, 11:15:05 PM

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Some versatile boxers can do the same strategy when they find their opponent is weak.  In this case, Vargas had exposed Magsayo's weaknesses, so there is a possibility that the camp of Figueroa will implement the same strategy.  It would be lucky for Magsayo if Figueroa will fight him toe-to-toe and do not take advantage of the reach advantage.

On the other hand, I believe Magsayo had studied Figueroa's fighting style and strategies, I hope his camp can find the weakness of the opponent and devise a plan to exploit it.

Might be, Vargas strategy though is to use his length against Magsayo by using a lot of jabs, and Brandon is not known to jab, he is a very definition of brawler, even in the first rounds of the fight against Fulton, he uses his aggressiveness and try to wear out Fulton. But Stephen was intelligent enough to grab him the moment he goes inside. So I'm seeing the same Figueroa in this fight, same strategy, he will try to wear you down with his volume punching. So it's the sheer volume of Figueroa. But to win against a volume puncher, Magsayo should be accurate enough, even if he has less output, if he is accurate then he has a good chance to win or maybe score a knock down in the later rounds.
1794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: My $300 bet won $417,000 on: February 25, 2023, 11:04:51 PM
Always remember to only bet what you can afford to lose and gamble responsibly

I like this your concluding aspect that gives a calm but serious advise for the wise, when we gamble and win or loose, we shouldn't get discouraged because things were not thesame in gambling with individuals experience, when some gamblers win others loose and so the trend continues, we can use others experience and work our own best practices from theirs and learn, some winning also motivates but does not determines winning or loosing.

Usually, we get over excited when we see other gamblers winning big amounts and then we take big risks thinking we can achieve the same results.

This is a bitter truth that most of the times people will lose in gambling and moments like this when you spend 300 dollars and win over 400,000$ dollars are very rare. People do come in gambling after seeing such big returns and want to change their fortune in days but actually very few times they succeed.

True that, in gambling, it is hard to duplicate the winnings of others.  I am also amazed at how good @OP in predicting the winner of the match.  It is quite hard to win especially in a parlay.  And I think @OP is lucky to be playing on a reputable Sportsbetting platform since he has no issue withdrawing his won amount.   As we know, we have seen lots of cases posted here of a player denied of their winning and the sportsbook acuse them of anything that will justify that sportsbook's action.

he mentioned, he only betted on sports he has high knowledge. so it means, he's pretty comfortable with his bets because he knows very well the sports. i guess, that's true to most successful bettors. they know the sports very well, so it is not too difficult to place their bets with. and coupled with luck, they can really hit the jackpot. but yes, do take note that this fate is not for all gamblers. very rare that you will encounter gamblers with this kind of story. so people should not think that this is quite easy feat.
As you've mentioned people shouldn't think it an easy thing. Making a prediction about the outcome of any game is not simple and it requires big knowledge as well as understanding about the team and the players involved. It is true that OP have been following the matches for long and this had made him highly skilled. Similar outcomes were possible only when we've got skills and luck to favour us. OP made himself skilled and luck got stuck along with it making the bet a jackpot win. These kind of wins were very rare to experienced.

Yeah, that's what you gotta get with your skills on sports and then some luck on your side. His bet is already even huge for a single bet, but he make it higher when that big number of games parlay that is hard to hit.

But as we have said, he love the sports and following it for many years that he knows the team or even those individual events that he bet. And then all the stars align that night for him. So no easy feat indeed.
1795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury - February 26 in Saudi Arabia on: February 25, 2023, 10:54:55 PM
Here's the official weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwDpIiUPoHE

Fury - 184.5 lbs
Paul - 183.6 lbs

As usual, some pushing to hype the fight even more hehehe, but it is expected that this is going to be huge as far as PPV numbers in the Middle East/London and the US.

1796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 25, 2023, 10:41:32 PM
Lakers are certainly looking "better" but at the end of the day they are still nowhere near where they should be. This team has Lebron, and on his last years nevertheless, so they should have been a much better team. They are not even at a position where they were before they acquired Westbrook.

I mean they had KCP, Kuzma, maybe Danny Green wasn't that much great but he had some great days and was awesome on defense, hell Rondo still provided some help, and Caruso was a fire cracker off the bench, that team won a title, maybe not enough to win a title now, but still better than the current roster. They haven't fix anything yet, they were terrible, they are just bad now.

I think the fire and desire by that team to win a championship is present, everyone is contributing both in offense and defense. But when the Lakers let go of that players and only left AD and Lebron, it was a very different team then. Even getting Westbrook didn't help them either and it become worst.

Now it's a much better upgrade, but I still don't think the current roster will be enough to push them into the playoffs. It's kinda late, but if they stay for the whole season next year, it might be a different outcome for them.
1797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 25, 2023, 10:31:44 PM
But apparently, Bivol is willing to go down to 168 lbs and fight Canelo as long as Alvarez is willing to put his belt on the line.

That makes sense since it's already clear from the start that Bivol will only take the rematch against Canelo with the belt on the line.

But I'm not aware of it honestly that Bivol is willing to go down. As far as my knowledge is concerned, it's Canelo's camp doing the run.

Regardless though, a fight with Beterbiev or Canelo is a good one for Bivol. Let's see.
For Bivol it makes more sense to fight Canelo first and then fight Beterbiev, Canelo supposedly wants a rematch and this means a lot of money for Bivol against an opponent he dominated clearly, if Bivol is willing to go down a division this also benefits him as in the case he were to lose he will not lose his title on the light heavyweight division and he will still retain the right to fight Beterbiev for the undisputed, while at the same time it gives both parties more time to agree to a date and a venue for the fight to take place.

I think that is their goal, fight Canelo fight. The thing is that Canelo is recovering and has a schedule fight with Ryder this May. So Bivol will have to wait, or he can get a tune up fight,against Buatsi as reported but nothing yet is sign according the Hearn.

So there is a lot of movement from behind before this two will have to rematch.

And then it's the question whether it will be 168 lbs with Canelo's belt or 175 lbs. But eventually Bivol and Canelo will have a rematch for this year and it could be along the line on Mexican Independence day in September.
1798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: February 25, 2023, 04:26:42 PM
Just 1/2 for me, the Warriors did manage to win in double digits, while Wizards was just good for the first 2 quarters, hehehe.

Raptors vs Detroit - Raptors -6.5 @1.84
Nuggets vs Memphis - Nuggets 2.5 @1.94
1799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: February 24, 2023, 11:58:59 PM
Here we go boys, it's official now,



https://twitter.com/Gervontaa/status/1629214312949751808

And several media outlets are also reporting it, so its' going to be April 22. Everyone is right though, maybe the biggest stumbling block is the court case of Tank Davis, sentencing is May 5 so after this fight, then he has another one in court.

Nevertheless his legal team are going to handle that so there should be no distractions for him and Garcia as well to make this fight happen on April. For sure everyone now is very excited that finally, we have a date and just waiting for what venue it is in Las Vegas.
1800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) on: February 24, 2023, 11:47:26 PM
You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo.  Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support


That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.
Well, in every fight, a fighter could up their game depending on their drive which is more likely from their previous fights.But if we would base on stats, this could be a toe-to-tose or a close match even if they have different fighting styles. The heartbreaker is a heavy puncher and is more agressive but Magnifico has the speed over Figuerroa. This would be interesting for sure because they are fighting for a vacant belt. Both are eager for the spotlight given that their previous fights didn't turn out to be as what they have expected. Hard to guess to be honest but for this fight I guess edge is on The heartbreaker. Outcome probably is by unanimous decision.

It we look at the record though, and basing on their ko % it should be Figueroa that is considered a heavy puncher,

Figueroa - KOs    72%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/718399

Magsayo - KOs    64%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/653034

Speed in boxing is relative though, you can be fast, but if you are not going to hit a target then that speed is nothing. Or Magsayo could be fast in his last fight, but when he faces another fast boxer, then again, his advantages becomes 0.
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