Flat Earth

[Przemax]

Soooo here's another conundrum for you flat earthies to explain.

Consider the pole star (Polaris) and the south star (Sigma Octantis). Polaris is visible directly overhead if you are situated at the north pole, all the other stars appear to rotate around it, while Polaris appears stationary. Sigma Octantis is visible directly overhead from the south pole, and again, all the other stars appear to rotate around it and it appears stationary. Both are visible from the equator.

If the Earth isn't spherical, how could multiple observers see the same stars appearing stationary in different hemispheres? You could travel from north to south, and gradually Polaris would begin to dip below the horizon, while Sigma Octantis would emerge. But both would appear stationary in relation to the other stars.

If the stars are some sort of projection, then this projection would have to change dynamically based on where the observer was situated. Not only that, but with multiple observers it would have to be somehow customized to each observer. How can this be explained with the flat Earth theory?

They cant. It proves its hoax. That is a killer argument for the flat earth. Im 99% percent they will say everyone who was close the poles is a part of conspiracy, yet they wont learn astronavigation themselfs and have a trip to south or north pole, or in the general direction of them. One would think its important in their life as they devote so much energy for it. Yet they dont want any proofs or learn how to disprove stuff.

And no astronavigation is not monkeymade nasa science, its not ment to be used in space but, by everyone thats on the sea to find a way home. Compass give you a direction and astronavigation is the map of the sky that is not flat sadly. So it would be akward for the earth to be flat.

[exemplaar]

Soooo here's another conundrum for you flat earthies to explain.

Consider the pole star (Polaris) and the south star (Sigma Octantis). Polaris is visible directly overhead if you are situated at the north pole, all the other stars appear to rotate around it, while Polaris appears stationary. Sigma Octantis is visible directly overhead from the south pole, and again, all the other stars appear to rotate around it and it appears stationary. Both are visible from the equator.

If the Earth isn't spherical, how could multiple observers see the same stars appearing stationary in different hemispheres? You could travel from north to south, and gradually Polaris would begin to dip below the horizon, while Sigma Octantis would emerge. But both would appear stationary in relation to the other stars.

If the stars are some sort of projection, then this projection would have to change dynamically based on where the observer was situated. Not only that, but with multiple observers it would have to be somehow customized to each observer. How can this be explained with the flat Earth theory?

Could this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YF-pyYhbg

You do know by now that there is no "southern hemisphere" and south pole on our flat earth? Didn't you know that a compass always point to the north, no matter where you are? North pole is a magnetic pole, south are walls of Antarctica, not some bogus continent on a bottom of a ball. Everywhere you are if you traveling south you will face the walls of Antarctica.

PS: for Przemax, maybe this will help you see things clearer: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/bible.html

[HaydenBruin]

Earth's shadow falls on moon, so the edges are round not sharp. Hence proved, Earth is round.

[Przemax]

Soooo here's another conundrum for you flat earthies to explain.

Consider the pole star (Polaris) and the south star (Sigma Octantis). Polaris is visible directly overhead if you are situated at the north pole, all the other stars appear to rotate around it, while Polaris appears stationary. Sigma Octantis is visible directly overhead from the south pole, and again, all the other stars appear to rotate around it and it appears stationary. Both are visible from the equator.

If the Earth isn't spherical, how could multiple observers see the same stars appearing stationary in different hemispheres? You could travel from north to south, and gradually Polaris would begin to dip below the horizon, while Sigma Octantis would emerge. But both would appear stationary in relation to the other stars.

If the stars are some sort of projection, then this projection would have to change dynamically based on where the observer was situated. Not only that, but with multiple observers it would have to be somehow customized to each observer. How can this be explained with the flat Earth theory?

Could this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YF-pyYhbg

You do know by now that there is no "southern hemisphere" and south pole on our flat earth? Didn't you know that a compass always point to the north, no matter where you are? North pole is a magnetic pole, south are walls of Antarctica, not some bogus continent on a bottom of a ball. Everywhere you are if you traveling south you will face the walls of Antarctica.

PS: for Przemax, maybe this will help you see things clearer: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/bible.html

You have no heart do you? You give tons and tons of text.... Couldnt you find some nice fragments? But ok.... I will read thru it not to make trolls happy. And please... that movie is so not on subject the first minutes... tell us where does the movie refutes the arguments please.

Flat earthers.... be kind to us. What did we do to you so you just point to some boring, long lectures. I gave up on 5 minute of not answering the question just bragging about kids and flying humans. Could you give us short answers next time?

You give some image. Ok. What the fuck is the image. Who made it? Why should one believe its true? I read the commentary. None of the flattard are asking that question. That is the most important doesnt it? Instead the author of the movie braggs about kids.

Video 2/10.

[serbad]

Earth's shadow falls on moon, so the edges are round not sharp. Hence proved, Earth is round.

Thats so koi fresco!

[exemplaar]

Agreed. 

But let's explain again for further notice:

Earth shadow can not fall on the moon because earth is not a spinning ball planet, but it is a flat plane living environment. Sun, moon and the stars revolve above the surface of a plane earth.

Here is Creator's manual on that subject, clear as a day:

Gen 1:14  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15  And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:16  And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Gen 1:17  And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Gen 1:18  And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Heliocentric model is a lie, it does not exist.

[exemplaar]

Soooo here's another conundrum for you flat earthies to explain.

Consider the pole star (Polaris) and the south star (Sigma Octantis). Polaris is visible directly overhead if you are situated at the north pole, all the other stars appear to rotate around it, while Polaris appears stationary. Sigma Octantis is visible directly overhead from the south pole, and again, all the other stars appear to rotate around it and it appears stationary. Both are visible from the equator.

If the Earth isn't spherical, how could multiple observers see the same stars appearing stationary in different hemispheres? You could travel from north to south, and gradually Polaris would begin to dip below the horizon, while Sigma Octantis would emerge. But both would appear stationary in relation to the other stars.

If the stars are some sort of projection, then this projection would have to change dynamically based on where the observer was situated. Not only that, but with multiple observers it would have to be somehow customized to each observer. How can this be explained with the flat Earth theory?

Could this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YF-pyYhbg

You do know by now that there is no "southern hemisphere" and south pole on our flat earth? Didn't you know that a compass always point to the north, no matter where you are? North pole is a magnetic pole, south are walls of Antarctica, not some bogus continent on a bottom of a ball. Everywhere you are if you traveling south you will face the walls of Antarctica.

PS: for Przemax, maybe this will help you see things clearer: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/bible.html

You have no heart do you? You give tons and tons of text.... Couldnt you find some nice fragments? But ok.... I will read thru it not to make trolls happy. And please... that movie is so not on subject the first minutes... tell us where does the movie refutes the arguments please.

Flat earthers.... be kind to us. What did we do to you so you just point to some boring, long lectures. I gave up on 5 minute of not answering the question just bragging about kids and flying humans. Could you give us short answers next time?

You can research, or stay ignorant. The choice is all yours. It will take time yes, but in the end it will produce results, I hope.

Meanwhile, for relaxing enjoy this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vTKfSUvlFw

[HaydenBruin]

Agreed. 

But let's explain again for further notice:

Earth shadow can not fall on the moon because earth is not a spinning ball planet, but it is a flat plane living environment. Sun, moon and the stars revolve above the surface of a plane earth.

Nice imagination boi, but Earth stays on its axis and Moon rotates around it. Ez as hell.

[Przemax]

Agreed.  

But let's explain again for further notice:

Earth shadow can not fall on the moon because earth is not a spinning ball planet, but it is a flat plane living environment. Sun, moon and the stars revolve above the surface of a plane earth.

Here is Creator's manual on that subject, clear as a day:

Gen 1:14  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15  And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:16  And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Gen 1:17  And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Gen 1:18  And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Heliocentric model is a lie, it does not exist.

Full agreement on the heliocentric model its such a scam but......

Ive missed saying about the flat earth in those passages. Damn im such a bad reader.

You can research, or stay ignorant. The choice is all yours. It will take time yes, but in the end it will produce results, I hope.

Ive said Ill read it. Im tired of not finding your point for today.

EDIT: Yes Flat earth is true. This movie had finaly conviced me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw











NOT

[protokol]

Soooo here's another conundrum for you flat earthies to explain.

Consider the pole star (Polaris) and the south star (Sigma Octantis). Polaris is visible directly overhead if you are situated at the north pole, all the other stars appear to rotate around it, while Polaris appears stationary. Sigma Octantis is visible directly overhead from the south pole, and again, all the other stars appear to rotate around it and it appears stationary. Both are visible from the equator.

If the Earth isn't spherical, how could multiple observers see the same stars appearing stationary in different hemispheres? You could travel from north to south, and gradually Polaris would begin to dip below the horizon, while Sigma Octantis would emerge. But both would appear stationary in relation to the other stars.

If the stars are some sort of projection, then this projection would have to change dynamically based on where the observer was situated. Not only that, but with multiple observers it would have to be somehow customized to each observer. How can this be explained with the flat Earth theory?

Could this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YF-pyYhbg

You do know by now that there is no "southern hemisphere" and south pole on our flat earth? Didn't you know that a compass always point to the north, no matter where you are? North pole is a magnetic pole, south are walls of Antarctica, not some bogus continent on a bottom of a ball. Everywhere you are if you traveling south you will face the walls of Antarctica.

PS: for Przemax, maybe this will help you see things clearer: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/bible.html

That video is misleading and poses a false hypothesis. It doesn't take into account the vast distances between the Earth and the stars.

It also doesn't address my point about the north and south star appearing stationary to two observers, or that you could travel from the north to the south and see Polaris disappear and Sigma Octantis appear, with both stars appearing stationary in relation to all the other stars.

The video's hypothesis (of spirals etc.) would only work if the stars were much closer, and we could see their movement as the Earth travels through space. It's similar to when you drive at high speed and objects in the distance don't appear to move, because they are so far away.

[TooQik]

If you're going to go to the effort of mapping the sun positions against your flat Earth map, you should as least draw the compass correctly with zero pointing to your Geographical North Pole.

Or maybe it doesn't show the result you desire when you choose a country in the Southern Hemisphere without rotating your compass 180 degrees and inverting it.  

[Przemax]

Soooo here's another conundrum for you flat earthies to explain.

Consider the pole star (Polaris) and the south star (Sigma Octantis). Polaris is visible directly overhead if you are situated at the north pole, all the other stars appear to rotate around it, while Polaris appears stationary. Sigma Octantis is visible directly overhead from the south pole, and again, all the other stars appear to rotate around it and it appears stationary. Both are visible from the equator.

If the Earth isn't spherical, how could multiple observers see the same stars appearing stationary in different hemispheres? You could travel from north to south, and gradually Polaris would begin to dip below the horizon, while Sigma Octantis would emerge. But both would appear stationary in relation to the other stars.

If the stars are some sort of projection, then this projection would have to change dynamically based on where the observer was situated. Not only that, but with multiple observers it would have to be somehow customized to each observer. How can this be explained with the flat Earth theory?

Could this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YF-pyYhbg

You do know by now that there is no "southern hemisphere" and south pole on our flat earth? Didn't you know that a compass always point to the north, no matter where you are? North pole is a magnetic pole, south are walls of Antarctica, not some bogus continent on a bottom of a ball. Everywhere you are if you traveling south you will face the walls of Antarctica.

PS: for Przemax, maybe this will help you see things clearer: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/bible.html

That video is misleading and poses a false hypothesis. It doesn't take into account the vast distances between the Earth and the stars.

It also doesn't address my point about the north and south star appearing stationary to two observers, or that you could travel from the north to the south and see Polaris disappear and Sigma Octantis appear, with both stars appearing stationary in relation to all the other stars.

The video's hypothesis (of spirals etc.) would only work if the stars were much closer, and we could see their movement as the Earth travels through space. It's similar to when you drive at high speed and objects in the distance don't appear to move, because they are so far away.

Dont worry. They mean no bad nor trolling. They simply dont understand you, as some of them had said they have troubles understanding complicated matters.

[Gleb Gamow]

It saddens me to report that the Moody Blues got in on the act of influencing me, among others, the notion that the Earth is a globe thingy:

Cold hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colors from our sight
Red is gray and yellow white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion

Pinprick holes in a colorless sky
Let insipid figures of light pass by
The mighty light of ten thousand suns
Challenges infinity and is soon gone

Nighttime to some, a brief interlude
To others the fear of solitude
Brave Helios, wake up your steeds
Bring the warmth the countryside needs

[nomad13666]

Polish jokes never get old.

Unless you're a Polack, I guess.

Pij moją siusiu! Wiwaty, przyjacielu!

 

[montaga]

You know the moment in time when everything comes to a hold.

When you try to accept, when hand and feet don't want to go, your set frame of mind needs time to adopt,  when....

It is now.



Trolls its time to pack up and move Home, unless you already operate form home.

[Przemax]

Polish jokes never get old.

Unless you're a Polack, I guess.

Pij moją siusiu! Wiwaty, przyjacielu!

 

Nah. Jokes about Khazars are better. Like how many nomadmen you need to spam a flat earth thread? 13666

[Drowzy]

This is a joke thread right? People don't actually believe that the earth is flat in this day and age do they? I seen some links posted that I haven't watched yet. Maybe I will check one out and see what this nonsense is all about.

[serbad]

This is a joke thread right? People don't actually believe that the earth is flat in this day and age do they? I seen some links posted that I haven't watched yet. Maybe I will check one out and see what this nonsense is all about.

Its no joke! Wherever you are in this world the one thing for sure is. Your government is not governing you. Your government is repressing you.
They own the media and so the general consensus.
To imagine there is a vast endless universe out there and we are just a freak of an insignificant spec in some lost part of it.
Kinda makes you feel small and worthless doesn't it....
Go ahead educate yourself you might find your self awakened.

[Drowzy]

This is a joke thread right? People don't actually believe that the earth is flat in this day and age do they? I seen some links posted that I haven't watched yet. Maybe I will check one out and see what this nonsense is all about.

Its no joke! Wherever you are in this world the one thing for sure is. Your government is not governing you. Your government is repressing you.
They own the media and so the general consensus.
To imagine there is a vast endless universe out there and we are just a freak of an insignificant spec in some lost part of it.
Kinda makes you feel small and worthless doesn't it....
Go ahead educate yourself you might find your self awakened.

I agree with most of your points. However I don't think we are alone. To think that life only happened on this planet is pretty egotistical. Clearly it happened and is happening on many planets all over this galaxy and others.

I watch a video and what I got out of it is that if I don't believe in flat earth then I'm an idiot. Got it. IMO I would be and idiot to believe that one video. I'll go watch more some of the stuff these guys say is pretty funny.

[montaga]

Ok here we go lets make it short and simple.

Flat Earth is proven not the case.

So what is going one, well lets have a look.

Four Angels standing on the Four Corners of the World Rev. 7:1
Auguste Piccard first Men to "Space" 'I see an  upturned Edge'.
Magnetic Mount Meru, all of the before are true with most of the "Flat Earth" evidence.

Get used to the fact that this is reality:
Square Earth

After looking at the facts I can not think of any other scenario.
Rockhampton a wee little town in Queensland, Australia is located at the Tropic of Capricorn.
Hobart the capital of the State Tasmania, a Island south of Australia and 2687,4 km south by car of Rockhamton and a starting location when heading for Antarctic gets 2 hours more Sunlight but at the same time is significantly colder as it does not get as much heat from the centre. It is only possible because it is further out and sunlight gets not blocked as much by Mount Meru which obtrudes all sunlight all the way to the equator as seen here: https://i.imgur.com/p4mDNcv.jpg
This also explains why Antarctica has a lot of sunlight in summer. It is also the reason for Daylight saving to cover it as much as possible.

Now you ask why the "weird" compass readings in the south. It is because the Equator marks the tipping point and then the attraction of the outer magnetic field is stronger as the center. It is because the way the magnet is located. haven't looked into it just yet but here is a  crude example https://i.imgur.com/hdd8rap.jpg
Looking at the earths magnetic lines it is clear that there are at least 2 magnets at work. the second most likely operates the sun and moon. as mentioned in my other posts I am of the opinion that the energy field on top of the main magnet has a wobbling object completing on turn in 24 h and projects heat and light which then gets deflected by the atmosphere layers which rise and lower to have a completed circle in one year (breath in let go) it is also the polar star reflecting from the waters above.
All cleverly designed. As it is a working model it can be build on smaller scale.
I am all ears if you have other explanation.