Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

1. You state:

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

2. I explained that atheists have no beliefs concerning the purpose of the universe.

3. Therefore your simple definition does not apply to atheists.

Are you changing your simple definition or will you ignore a logical argument?

2. Some people believe the earth is flat.

3. True explanations of the shape of the earth apply to all people, even if they don't understand or believe them. Truth conquers belief.

4. I am accepting, as always, the logical ideas of using the definitions of the dictionaries and encyclopedias. What, again, are you doing?

NOTE: I added the number "4" to clarify your set. I ignored your number "1" because all you are really saying there is something like, "You are not agreeing with me."

The list was a step-by-step guide to understanding the point, which once again I failed to make.

I'll try again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and say that therefore atheists are religious.

I was simply explaining what the dictionary says.

The third part of your definition, the 'purpose" part, by definition cannot apply to atheists, and therefore your definition is wrong.

First, it is not my definition.

Second, anybody can make a statement.

Third, you didn't give even one reference for your statement. At least I gave the dictionary reference.

Every time you try again, you are trying to get it right. Up until now, you have been having having a little trouble doing so.

Try again. Maybe you will get it right next time.

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[BADecker]

The list was a step-by-step guide to understanding the point, which once again I failed to make.

I'll try again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and say that therefore atheists are religious.

The third part of your definition, the 'purpose" part, by definition cannot apply to atheists, and therefore your definition is wrong.

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.

BitNow, you're a very poor advertisement for organised religions. Every time someone asks me "what's wrong with organised religion?" I can just point to the hate speech you post here.

I didn't used the word hate.


Best regards.

You don't have to feel upset about organofcorti. Notice that he said, above, "... which once again I failed to make." He is having quite a few failures lately. We should pity him.

[BitNow]

...omissis...

First, it is not my definition.

Second, anybody can make a statement.

Third, you didn't give even one reference for your statement. At least I gave the dictionary reference.

Every time you try again, you are trying to get it right. Up until now, you have been having having a little trouble doing so.

Try again. Maybe you will get it right next time.

"7 Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults;
    whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.
8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you;
    rebuke the wise and they will love you.
9 Instruct the wise and they will be wiser still;
    teach the righteous and they will add to their learning.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
    and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
11 For through wisdom your days will be many,
    and years will be added to your life.
12 If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you;
    if you are a mocker, you alone will suffer."
- Pro 9:7


Best regards.

[BADecker]

...omissis...

First, it is not my definition.

Second, anybody can make a statement.

Third, you didn't give even one reference for your statement. At least I gave the dictionary reference.

Every time you try again, you are trying to get it right. Up until now, you have been having having a little trouble doing so.

Try again. Maybe you will get it right next time.

"7 Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults;
    whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.
8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you;
    rebuke the wise and they will love you.
9 Instruct the wise and they will be wiser still;
    teach the righteous and they will add to their learning.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
    and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
11 For through wisdom your days will be many,
    and years will be added to your life.
12 If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you;
    if you are a mocker, you alone will suffer."
- Pro 9:7


Best regards.

So what? I correct you all the time. And that is mostly what I get from you... insults and abuse.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom... but when are you going to get past the beginning of it?

[BitNow]

So what? I correct you all the time. And that is mostly what I get from you... insults and abuse.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom... but when are you going to get past the beginning of it?

You are not a mocker.
You are not a wicker.

"Atheism is a capital sin."


Best regards.

[organofcorti]

1. You state:

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

2. I explained that atheists have no beliefs concerning the purpose of the universe.

3. Therefore your simple definition does not apply to atheists.

Are you changing your simple definition or will you ignore a logical argument?

2. Some people believe the earth is flat.

3. True explanations of the shape of the earth apply to all people, even if they don't understand or believe them. Truth conquers belief.

4. I am accepting, as always, the logical ideas of using the definitions of the dictionaries and encyclopedias. What, again, are you doing?

NOTE: I added the number "4" to clarify your set. I ignored your number "1" because all you are really saying there is something like, "You are not agreeing with me."

The list was a step-by-step guide to understanding the point, which once again I failed to make.

I'll try again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and say that therefore atheists are religious.

I was simply explaining what the dictionary says.

The third part of your definition, the 'purpose" part, by definition cannot apply to atheists, and therefore your definition is wrong.

First, it is not my definition.

Yes it is. you made it:

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

Second, anybody can make a statement.

Yes, and?

Third, you didn't give even one reference for your statement. At least I gave the dictionary reference.

It wasn't a statement, it was a logical argument. Your statement is the reference. Unless you'd like me tolecture you on the basics of logic?

Every time you try again, you are trying to get it right. Up until now, you have been having having a little trouble doing so.

Yes, but I think that has more to do with my audience.

[organofcorti]

The list was a step-by-step guide to understanding the point, which once again I failed to make.

I'll try again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and say that therefore atheists are religious.

The third part of your definition, the 'purpose" part, by definition cannot apply to atheists, and therefore your definition is wrong.

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.

You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.

[BADecker]

1. You state:

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

2. I explained that atheists have no beliefs concerning the purpose of the universe.

3. Therefore your simple definition does not apply to atheists.

Are you changing your simple definition or will you ignore a logical argument?

2. Some people believe the earth is flat.

3. True explanations of the shape of the earth apply to all people, even if they don't understand or believe them. Truth conquers belief.

4. I am accepting, as always, the logical ideas of using the definitions of the dictionaries and encyclopedias. What, again, are you doing?

NOTE: I added the number "4" to clarify your set. I ignored your number "1" because all you are really saying there is something like, "You are not agreeing with me."

The list was a step-by-step guide to understanding the point, which once again I failed to make.

I'll try again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and say that therefore atheists are religious.

I was simply explaining what the dictionary says.

The third part of your definition, the 'purpose" part, by definition cannot apply to atheists, and therefore your definition is wrong.

First, it is not my definition.

Yes it is. you made it:

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

Second, anybody can make a statement.

Yes, and?

Third, you didn't give even one reference for your statement. At least I gave the dictionary reference.

It wasn't a statement, it was a logical argument. Your statement is the reference. Unless you'd like me tolecture you on the basics of logic?

Every time you try again, you are trying to get it right. Up until now, you have been having having a little trouble doing so.

Yes, but I think that has more to do with my audience.

Whether or not it is you or your audience, you barely (if at all) attempt to explain what you mean in a step-by-step process that would clarify the whole thing for everyone. Since you are not doing this, and since you won't provide references... anyone can say stuff. Just saying it doesn't make it true.

[organofcorti]

BitNow, you're a very poor advertisement for organised religions. Every time someone asks me "what's wrong with organised religion?" I can just point to the hate speech you post here.

I didn't used the word hate.


Best regards.

You don't need to say the word "hate" for it to be hate speech. Do you deny you think all atheists should be murdered?

[BitNow]

You don't need to say the word "hate" for it to be hate speech. Do you deny you think all atheists should be murdered?

That's a law: laws have no sentiment.


Best regards.

[BADecker]

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.

You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.

Look, even if atheist all thought that the universe doesn't have a purpose - not all of them think this way - the definition that uses the word "purpose" is only one of many definitions. Atheism is a religion, but if somehow it is not, it is so extremely close that it may as well be considered religion.

[organofcorti]

Whether or not it is you or your audience, you barely (if at all) attempt to explain what you mean in a step-by-step process that would clarify the whole thing for everyone. Since you are not doing this, and since you won't provide references... anyone can say stuff. Just saying it doesn't make it true.

I did explain it step by step.

Let's do it again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and you say atheism is a religion. Atheists do not have beliefs about the purpose of the universe. If they did, they could not be atheists, since a purpose or reason for the universe demands a creator. Therefore, atheism is not a religion.

Which part of that train of logic don't you follow?

[organofcorti]

You don't need to say the word "hate" for it to be hate speech. Do you deny you think all atheists should be murdered?

That's a law: laws have no sentiment.


Best regards.

What law? I didn't mention laws, I just ask if you denied saying that all atheists should be murdered. Do you?

[organofcorti]

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.

You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.

Look, even if atheist all thought that the universe doesn't have a purpose - not all of them think this way -

Yes, they do. If the universe has a purpose it must have a creator. If you believe in a creator, you're not atheist.

the definition that uses the word "purpose" is only one of many definitions. Atheism is a religion, but if somehow it is not, it is so extremely close that it may as well be considered religion.

Can I summarise your statement? "Atheism is a religion. Even if it isn't a religion, it's a religion".

This is not an argument, it's just a self contradictory statement.

[strayanbit]

Don't bother Corti, he doesn't even realise that Zeus is the one true god.  How do you expect him to be able to read a dictionary?

[BADecker]

the definition that uses the word "purpose" is only one of many definitions. Atheism is a religion, but if somehow it is not, it is so extremely close that it may as well be considered religion.

Can I summarise your statement? "Atheism is a religion. Even if it isn't a religion, it's a religion".

This is not an argument, it's just a self contradictory statement.

You are almost there.

Any human that lives and thinks has his own personal religion... in addition to whatever formal religion he may have. Only if he is dead does he not have a religion.

You are finally getting it.

[BADecker]

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.

You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.

Look, even if atheist all thought that the universe doesn't have a purpose - not all of them think this way -

Yes, they do. If the universe has a purpose it must have a creator. If you believe in a creator, you're not atheist.

Does an atheist do anything in the universe? Does an atheist dream? Does he make plans? Does he use the things of the universe? For him the universe has a purpose. If it didn't, he would go off and commit suicide out of despair. If he didn't commit suicide out of despair, and the universe didn't have a purpose for him - at least in his own mind - he would have to be a vegetable.

An atheist views himself as god, although he may not recognize that he is doing so. Since he doesn't know much about himself - the way-down-deep human self that he is - yet he believes that he knows, he has a personal religion going.

[BitNow]

What law?

How many do you need?


Best regards.

[mOgliE]

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.

You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.

Look, even if atheist all thought that the universe doesn't have a purpose - not all of them think this way -

Yes, they do. If the universe has a purpose it must have a creator. If you believe in a creator, you're not atheist.

Does an atheist do anything in the universe? Does an atheist dream? Does he make plans? Does he use the things of the universe? For him the universe has a purpose. If it didn't, he would go off and commit suicide out of despair. If he didn't commit suicide out of despair, and the universe didn't have a purpose for him - at least in his own mind - he would have to be a vegetable.

An atheist views himself as god, although he may not recognize that he is doing so. Since he doesn't know much about himself - the way-down-deep human self that he is - yet he believes that he knows, he has a personal religion going.

What you're saying is extremely arrogant for talking for each and everyone of us.

An atheist is someone thinking there is no purpose in the universe. But does it mean he has to commit suicide out of dispair? No of course not. Because thinking there is no purpose to the universe doesn't mean you can't have any will or any purpose yourself.

You don't have to follow a divine guideline to be happy, to just understand the basic satisfaction of love and good health. That's the goal of most of us: to find someone to love and be happy.

There is absolutely no link between that and any kind of religion...

[BitNow]

There is absolutely no link between that and any kind of religion...

How about that and the kind of England: Queen Elizabeth II?


Best regards.