Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[Eric Mu]

Because historically, religions have a pretty bad track record when it comes to excercising tolerance on ppl who don't - sometimes even those who do, share their convictions?

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[organofcorti]

All of the definitions of 'religion' that I read included belief in a god or the supernatural as some of the defining traits. If you're not including one or the other, you're not using the word 'religion' on the way accepted by "all world".

You are an atheist: how do you know about the World?

BitNow, that's a non-sequitur -- a type of logical 'trap' into which you tend to fall. You need to watch out for that.

As for how I know about what the usual definition of religion is, I did some reading, a little research. You could easily do the same. 

I know I won't change the attitudes of BitNow or BADecker, but I keep this discussion going with them for the sake of other readers.

You think you are God?


Best regards.

You call me an atheist and then tell me I think I'm a god in the same post? I can't both not believe in gods and believe I am one. Perhaps you meant something else?

[BitNow]

All of the definitions of 'religion' that I read included belief in a god or the supernatural as some of the defining traits. If you're not including one or the other, you're not using the word 'religion' on the way accepted by "all world".

You are an atheist: how do you know about the World?

BitNow, that's a non-sequitur -- a type of logical 'trap' into which you tend to fall. You need to watch out for that.

As for how I know about what the usual definition of religion is, I did some reading, a little research. You could easily do the same. 

I know I won't change the attitudes of BitNow or BADecker, but I keep this discussion going with them for the sake of other readers.

You think you are God?


Best regards.

You call me an atheist and then tell me I think I'm a god in the same post? I can't both not believe in gods and believe I am one. Perhaps you meant something else?

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

[organofcorti]

All of the definitions of 'religion' that I read included belief in a god or the supernatural as some of the defining traits. If you're not including one or the other, you're not using the word 'religion' on the way accepted by "all world".

You are an atheist: how do you know about the World?

BitNow, that's a non-sequitur -- a type of logical 'trap' into which you tend to fall. You need to watch out for that.

As for how I know about what the usual definition of religion is, I did some reading, a little research. You could easily do the same. 

I know I won't change the attitudes of BitNow or BADecker, but I keep this discussion going with them for the sake of other readers.

You think you are God?


Best regards.

You call me an atheist and then tell me I think I'm a god in the same post? I can't both not believe in gods and believe I am one. Perhaps you meant something else?

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

You already called me both a believer and a non-believer, and now you ask me for my opinion?

[BitNow]

You already called me both a believer and a non-believer, and now you ask me for my opinion?

Answering questions means being a man!


Best regards.

[organofcorti]

All of the definitions of 'religion' that I read included belief in a god or the supernatural as some of the defining traits. If you're not including one or the other, you're not using the word 'religion' on the way accepted by "all world".

You are an atheist: how do you know about the World?

BitNow, that's a non-sequitur -- a type of logical 'trap' into which you tend to fall. You need to watch out for that.

As for how I know about what the usual definition of religion is, I did some reading, a little research. You could easily do the same. 

I know I won't change the attitudes of BitNow or BADecker, but I keep this discussion going with them for the sake of other readers.

You think you are God?


Best regards.

You call me an atheist and then tell me I think I'm a god in the same post? I can't both not believe in gods and believe I am one. Perhaps you meant something else?

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

You already called me both a believer and a non-believer, and now you ask me for my opinion?

Answering questions means being a man!


Best regards.

That's all it takes to be a man? I thought you needed a penis as well?

[BitNow]

That's all it takes to be a man? I thought you needed a penis as well?

I thought we were talking about atheism?


Best regards.

[organofcorti]

Answering questions means being a man!


Best regards.

That's all it takes to be a man? I thought you needed a penis as well?

I thought we were talking about atheism?


Best regards.

No, your last post was about defining manhood, which you stated is all about answering questions.

[BitNow]

No, your last post was about defining manhood, which you stated is all about answering questions.

You read but You don't understand: focus on the subject and you will understand the words.


Best regards.

[subSTRATA]

No, your last post was about defining manhood, which you stated is all about answering questions.

You read but You don't understand: focus on the subject and you will understand the words.


Best regards.

rather, its you that needs to focus on the subject rather than constantly changing it whenever you want to avoid a question.

[BitNow]

rather, its you that needs to focus on the subject rather than constantly changing it whenever you want to avoid a question.

Quoting myself (in October 2015):

This issue is solved for me.

This thread can now be closed.

Best regards.

[differential350]

A small group of loud atheists live it as it was a religion

[BADecker]

A small group of loud atheists live it as it was a religion

And the rest of the atheists live it as part of the general religion of their lives.

[strayanbit]

The definition of an Atheist: Does not have imaginary friends.

So in essence when we speak of religion, it means that you either have an imaginary friend, or you follow the guidelines to living set out by your imaginary friend.

[organofcorti]

Answering questions means being a man!


Best regards.

That's all it takes to be a man? I thought you needed a penis as well?

I thought we were talking about atheism?


Best regards.

No, your last post was about defining manhood, which you stated is all about answering questions.

You read but You don't understand: focus on the subject and you will understand the words.


Best regards.

OK, let's focus on the words:

Answering questions means being a man!


Best regards.

Your quote nothing to do with atheism, and everything to do with being a man.

[organofcorti]

A small group of loud atheists live it as it was a religion

I'd like more details - how small is this group, and how did you measure it's size? Or did you just make this up?

[strayanbit]

He just thinks that because his imaginary friend whispered it in his ear.  Therefore its a FACT.  No discussion entered into it.

[organofcorti]

A small group of loud atheists live it as it was a religion

And the rest of the atheists live it as part of the general religion of their lives.

Not really. You use the word religion in a way that is not acceptable by the rest of the world. All of the definitions of religion which I could find include a belief or faith in a god or the supernatural.

You've made up your own meaning for religion, which is simply "Anything on which you spend a lot of energy". This means everyone posting here has multiple religions - any hobby you have (such as correcting logical fallacies posted by forum members) becomes a religion to you.

By your own definition, you simply posting here regularly is a religion - you have at least two religions, maybe more.

[BADecker]

A small group of loud atheists live it as it was a religion

And the rest of the atheists live it as part of the general religion of their lives.

Not really. You use the word religion in a way that is not acceptable by the rest of the world. All of the definitions of religion which I could find include a belief or faith in a god or the supernatural.

You've made up your own meaning for religion, which is simply "Anything on which you spend a lot of energy". This means everyone posting here has multiple religions - any hobby you have (such as correcting logical fallacies posted by forum members) becomes a religion to you.

By your own definition, you simply posting here regularly is a religion - you have at least two religions, maybe more.

That's the way we are, isn't it. If you picked up one of the original printings of the Bible by the King James crew, you wouldn't be able to read it except that you had special training. And, the funny thing about it, it is English.

As far as how I use the word "religion," there are many in the world who understand it that way.

As far as making up my own meaning for the word "religion," my restating of the definition using other words than the dictionary I quoted previously, is a thing that kids are taught in schools all over. They are taught to say "it" in their own words. The idea is to get an understanding of something by the words used.

In the definition of "religion" found at http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion?s=t, definition number 6 states:

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

While this definition is most certainly not the popular one, it is still part of the meaning of the word "religion."

As far as I, myself, having more than one religion, perhaps it is not incorrect to suggest this. But, maybe it is all part of my personal religion. How many religions do you have?

[BADecker]

The definition of an Atheist: Does not have imaginary friends.

So in essence when we speak of religion, it means that you either have an imaginary friend, or you follow the guidelines to living set out by your imaginary friend.

He just thinks that because his imaginary friend whispered it in his ear.  Therefore its a FACT.  No discussion entered into it.

You have to work at it a little to see what is behind you. Your eyes can't easily see the back of your head. You might use a couple of mirrors.

In a spiritual way, only through lots of training and understanding can you see the things that are mentally and spiritually behind you... the things of your subconscious. What's most interesting is, even if you start to figure your subconscious out a bit, it is extremely difficult to see if there is someone else in there working on it besides you.

Think what you like, but also recognize that you don't know if you have a spiritual friend or enemy right inside your mind, the friend holding you up, the enemy tearing you down.