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September 09, 2015, 02:21:23 AM
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I've got coins in a wallet.dat from the initial version back in June - v0.3.3.1

How do I safely get those coins into the latest version? I see reports that others have lost coins updating to the new version so I don't want to make a mistake

Just import the old wallet into your new 0.4.1 OR
Send them to exchange and send back to your new 0.4.1 wallet Cheesy


It is strongly recommended that you do not even open versions prior to 0.3.3.3. Import the wallet. Close the GUI and shut down siad with siac. Restart the wallet. Wait for it to sync. Then unlock the wallet. Your previous wallet balance will be there. However, the old address will not be restore-able from the new seed. You should save your old wallet.dat file as a backup in addition to the new wallet.json format. As far as I know, with 0.4.1 no one has actually lost any coins if they read the instructions, backup and don't delete stuff they shouldn't. Regardless, it is always smart to do a test transaction of a small amount.
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September 09, 2015, 02:33:05 AM
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i have issues running this GUI on windows x64

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September 09, 2015, 02:39:14 AM
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i have issues running this GUI on windows x64

Many of the issues people are having is due to unfamiliarity. There are instructions, but some aspects of its use are still confusing to people. If you would like some step by step help, I recommend the slack channel. I am running the GUI on windows 64 without issue and I could probably help you figure it out in chat.
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September 09, 2015, 03:39:18 AM
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How many coins exist? 4 billion something? So like 290 BTC to buy them all?
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September 09, 2015, 03:41:53 AM
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i have issues running this GUI on windows x64
works fine on my end, care to share the rest of your specs?
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September 09, 2015, 05:23:38 AM
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The GUI for OSX isn't working. I've let it sit for hours wondering if it's supposed to be loading the blockchain.

Errors came up first time I opened the GUI.
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September 09, 2015, 06:10:07 AM
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is now pool mining available?
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September 09, 2015, 06:36:12 AM
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Ok, so I deleted everything except the wallet files. Let it sync and now I have 2568971.37 SC again when I unlocked my wallet. Still 5M SC short...
I'll wait a few more blocks as suggested and restart the wallet completely. I'll know more in a few hours.

edit: I'm now at block 16275 (for future ref.)



Have shut down the wallet (reboot comp) for over 8 hours. Restarted sia gui 0.4.1 just now. Still a balance of only 2568971.37 S and should be 7568971.37 S

I tried everything I can think of and haven't deleted any wallet files in the process. Still there's 5M SC missing from my wallet.  Undecided
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September 09, 2015, 07:04:23 AM
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Will there be a Sia Android app for my phone?

My new NOTE 5 does not have an SD card slot...Samsung has phased them out. Can we have unlimited storage on our phones with a Sia app?
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September 09, 2015, 09:23:51 AM
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Hi,

I am using siac miner start 4 to start CPU mining on 4 threads but the miner does not show as started when I use siac miner status.

When I use siac miner start the miner status shows that it started but only on 1 thread.

What am I doing wrong ?

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September 09, 2015, 11:08:28 AM
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Hi,

I am using siac miner start 4 to start CPU mining on 4 threads but the miner does not show as started when I use siac miner status.

When I use siac miner start the miner status shows that it started but only on 1 thread.

What am I doing wrong ?

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sorry have no idea, but it is pretty senseless to solo mine with cpu, this coin needs a pool and it needs it fast.
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September 09, 2015, 12:32:12 PM
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I'm trying to understand value propositions for exactly what Sia is, at this point.

Does anyone have any ideas of what we have here?

What makes this have value?

Sia is valuable because it offers a decentralized way to do storage. On the current network, that value is rather low b/c you can only upload one file at a time and there is a 500mb limit to what can be uploaded. The next client will be much more powerful, the file size limit will be removed (or at least bumped to multiple GB) and there's a good chance that you can choose to upload entire folders instead of just one file at a time.

We do believe that in the long run, storage on Sia will be substantially cheaper than the current cloud storage platforms (Amazon, etc.), which is very attractive to enterprise customers. Enterprise customers will need siacoins to rent storage, this will create a baseline demand for the coin.

What I am not real clear on is when storage is used by a customer, is that persons data stored entirely on just the one PC in which you have a contract on? or is it dispersed around the network in bits and pieces across many storage units. I would think some form of the latter?

Ya I know, I need to read up and do more homework lol, but a quick answer is always nice Smiley

On the current network, the full file is uploaded to 8 different hosts. The hosts are selected randomly, but cheaper hosts are more likely to be chosen. I forget the exact algorithm, but someone who is 1/2 the price is ~8x as likely to be chosen. If you are a host and you are more expensive than everyone else by a significant amount, you will never be chosen for storage. If you are significantly cheaper than everyone else, you will be chosen pretty much every time, and your storage will fill up much faster.

The optimal price is the price where your storage fills up at the same rate as contracts expire. You make it cheap enough that you are pretty much always nearly sold out, but expensive enough that you are making money on every contract.

Right now, there's not enough upload demand to fill pretty much anybody's hard drive. It's difficult to upload more than a few files, people don't want to spend their siacoins, the filesize cap isn't that high, and the network doesn't have any sort of a proven track record. We hope to address a handful of these in the next major version (v0.4.0) in the next 6-8 weeks.


BEFORE I INVEST QUESTIONS:

1. Can I share my files with other Sia users or post them up like torrents?

2. Is there a a torrent system where people can get paid for seeding?


3. Are there any other coins working right now that allow me to do what Sia Coin does?

4. What does Sia stand for?

5. What makes Sia different from Storj?
I would invest now ask later   Grin

A lot of what you ask has been answered in this in this thread if you care to read.

As far as uploading shared files for downloading, there is this: https://staging.siafiles.com/#/browse/ However I think with the new version release the files that were on sunfish are gone.

Not really sure what SIA stands for if anything.




SECURE INTERNATIONAL ARRAY


no idea if that makes sense lol.

how about - secure(d) information array

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September 09, 2015, 03:21:03 PM
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I'm trying to understand value propositions for exactly what Sia is, at this point.

Does anyone have any ideas of what we have here?

What makes this have value?

Sia is valuable because it offers a decentralized way to do storage. On the current network, that value is rather low b/c you can only upload one file at a time and there is a 500mb limit to what can be uploaded. The next client will be much more powerful, the file size limit will be removed (or at least bumped to multiple GB) and there's a good chance that you can choose to upload entire folders instead of just one file at a time.

We do believe that in the long run, storage on Sia will be substantially cheaper than the current cloud storage platforms (Amazon, etc.), which is very attractive to enterprise customers. Enterprise customers will need siacoins to rent storage, this will create a baseline demand for the coin.

What I am not real clear on is when storage is used by a customer, is that persons data stored entirely on just the one PC in which you have a contract on? or is it dispersed around the network in bits and pieces across many storage units. I would think some form of the latter?

Ya I know, I need to read up and do more homework lol, but a quick answer is always nice Smiley

On the current network, the full file is uploaded to 8 different hosts. The hosts are selected randomly, but cheaper hosts are more likely to be chosen. I forget the exact algorithm, but someone who is 1/2 the price is ~8x as likely to be chosen. If you are a host and you are more expensive than everyone else by a significant amount, you will never be chosen for storage. If you are significantly cheaper than everyone else, you will be chosen pretty much every time, and your storage will fill up much faster.

The optimal price is the price where your storage fills up at the same rate as contracts expire. You make it cheap enough that you are pretty much always nearly sold out, but expensive enough that you are making money on every contract.

Right now, there's not enough upload demand to fill pretty much anybody's hard drive. It's difficult to upload more than a few files, people don't want to spend their siacoins, the filesize cap isn't that high, and the network doesn't have any sort of a proven track record. We hope to address a handful of these in the next major version (v0.4.0) in the next 6-8 weeks.


BEFORE I INVEST QUESTIONS:

1. Can I share my files with other Sia users or post them up like torrents?

2. Is there a a torrent system where people can get paid for seeding?


3. Are there any other coins working right now that allow me to do what Sia Coin does?

4. What does Sia stand for?

5. What makes Sia different from Storj?
I would invest now ask later   Grin

A lot of what you ask has been answered in this in this thread if you care to read.

As far as uploading shared files for downloading, there is this: https://staging.siafiles.com/#/browse/ However I think with the new version release the files that were on sunfish are gone.

Not really sure what SIA stands for if anything.




SECURE INTERNATIONAL ARRAY


no idea if that makes sense lol.

how about - secure(d) information array

I like that name. 

THE TIME IS RIPE FOR SIA:


https://youtu.be/uwoGyXdmPKg
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September 09, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
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Anyone able to help please?
I have installed the GUI clent.
Copied my passphrase, could not close the box showng me the passphrase so had to close the GUI.
Upon re openng the GUI, my wallet is locked.  The passphrase  recorded does not unlock it.

I have deleted all files and started over with the same issue.
What am i doing wrong?
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September 09, 2015, 05:47:27 PM
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Anyone able to help please?
I have installed the GUI clent.
Copied my passphrase, could not close the box showng me the passphrase so had to close the GUI.
Upon re openng the GUI, my wallet is locked.  The passphrase  recorded does not unlock it.

I have deleted all files and started over with the same issue.
What am i doing wrong?
Don't panic, most of us are having that same problem. Taek Is working on a fix for getting the password to display properly when first opening SIA. I am waiting for the release with fix as well.  Smiley

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September 09, 2015, 05:55:04 PM
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Wow that definitely lends a lot of support for decentralized storage.

Good vid post  Wink

https://youtu.be/uwoGyXdmPKg

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September 09, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
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Ok, so I deleted everything except the wallet files. Let it sync and now I have 2568971.37 SC again when I unlocked my wallet. Still 5M SC short...
I'll wait a few more blocks as suggested and restart the wallet completely. I'll know more in a few hours.

edit: I'm now at block 16275 (for future ref.)



Have shut down the wallet (reboot comp) for over 8 hours. Restarted sia gui 0.4.1 just now. Still a balance of only 2568971.37 S and should be 7568971.37 S

I tried everything I can think of and haven't deleted any wallet files in the process. Still there's 5M SC missing from my wallet.  Undecided

I'm still out 5.000.000SC or half my total balance after a single deposit to poloniex. All suggested fixes didn't work.

kept original wallet files, restarted, resync, wait a few blocks, unlock, restart,... (tried in different order)
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September 09, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
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So i do not need a open wallet to mine then?
Dont seem able to do alot wth the GUI  wth the wallet locked.
thanks
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September 09, 2015, 07:07:11 PM
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So i do not need a open wallet to mine then?
Dont seem able to do alot wth the GUI  wth the wallet locked.
thanks

Make sure you are killing the process SIAD in you task manager. But the wallet really is useless without the password. As far as mining I am still mining on 0.3.3.3 as far as I know it still useable in everyway until we get fixed 0.4.1 released from Taek.

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September 09, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
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Ok, so I deleted everything except the wallet files. Let it sync and now I have 2568971.37 SC again when I unlocked my wallet. Still 5M SC short...
I'll wait a few more blocks as suggested and restart the wallet completely. I'll know more in a few hours.

edit: I'm now at block 16275 (for future ref.)



Have shut down the wallet (reboot comp) for over 8 hours. Restarted sia gui 0.4.1 just now. Still a balance of only 2568971.37 S and should be 7568971.37 S

I tried everything I can think of and haven't deleted any wallet files in the process. Still there's 5M SC missing from my wallet.  Undecided

I'm still out 5.000.000SC or half my total balance after a single deposit to poloniex. All suggested fixes didn't work.

kept original wallet files, restarted, resync, wait a few blocks, unlock, restart,... (tried in different order)
So did you actually send 5 million coins to Poloniex, and from which wallet version...and then they never appeared? I'm a little confused. And you were able to get a password to work for 0.4.1 as well? I know I have had no luck with it.

EDIT: and have you checked for that 5M transfer in the block explorer?

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