CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Gleb Gamow]

The real question still remains, has anyone filed criminal charges against him? Hike down to the police station, state for the record that "Paul Vernon stole my money". That is the quickest way he will get arrested.

Easy to make an accusation, do you have proof to show?

If somebody robs the bank you keep your money at, are you going to march down to the police station and "state for the record" the owner of the bank stole your money?

Throughout this entire thread, there have been so many accusations, thoughts, ideas, 100's of "possibles" but very little FACT or proof.

Just because you dox somebody and exploit everything you can find about them does not make them guilty.

I challenge any and all trolls in this box to give some actual "proof" that those coins sitting there untouched were stolen by Paul Vernon.
If you can do that, then you have a case, if not then you have NOTHING.

What are you a fucking moron ?

People been begging the man to give back their money and he has refused to do so.

Idiot !

For the record, Cryptolicious is an asshole.

[sirazimuth]

can anyone tell me if this bigvern fellow is still in the united states, and can't leave the country? the last news i know is his house is for sale and the site is down, and no new notifications, so are these guys gone forever or is the case against them in full progress?

i still have 24 btc overthere

thanks for anyone who can help me

24 btc "overthere" eh?  well i guess you helped fund Verns retainer. his lawyers accept btc no doubt...

What Lawyers?

ORDER by Clerk of Entry of Default Re:22 Motion for Clerks Entry of Default as to Project Investors, Inc. (Default mailed to Project Investors, Inc.). Signed by DEPUTY CLERK on 3/24/2016. (ar2)

Seems Project Investors finally has a Lawyer......

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10497012/Liu_v_Project_Investors,_Inc_et_al

Quite appropriate 

http://www.payton-law.com/Attorneys/Patrick-J-Rengstl-3439003.shtml

Patrick J. Rengstl is senior counsel at Payton & Associates. He is a commercial litigator, a trial lawyer, and an appellate advocate. Patrick's practice includes commercial litigation, federal and state Court receiverships, insurance-related and foreclosure litigation, real estate litigation, and appellate advocacy. Patrick has extensive federal receivership experience in some of South Florida's most notorious alleged Ponzi scheme and investment-related fraud cases filed by the United States Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission ("CFTC"). In addition, Patrick has extensive federal receivership experience in cases filed by the Federal Trade Commission ("FTC") involving alleged deceptive telemarketing schemes.

I wonder if he accepts Bitcoin as payment?

Jon   

yeah he got 24 btc "overthere"

[mycoinsstore]

The real question still remains, has anyone filed criminal charges against him? Hike down to the police station, state for the record that "Paul Vernon stole my money". That is the quickest way he will get arrested.

Easy to make an accusation, do you have proof to show?

If somebody robs the bank you keep your money at, are you going to march down to the police station and "state for the record" the owner of the bank stole your money?

Throughout this entire thread, there have been so many accusations, thoughts, ideas, 100's of "possibles" but very little FACT or proof.

Just because you dox somebody and exploit everything you can find about them does not make them guilty.

I challenge any and all trolls in this box to give some actual "proof" that those coins sitting there untouched were stolen by Paul Vernon.
If you can do that, then you have a case, if not then you have NOTHING.

What are you a fucking moron ?

People been begging the man to give back their money and he has refused to do so.

Idiot !

For the record, Cryptolicious is an asshole.

Hmm, asshole or arsehole? Sorry for my bad, not academic english.

[Cryptolicious]

The real question still remains, has anyone filed criminal charges against him? Hike down to the police station, state for the record that "Paul Vernon stole my money". That is the quickest way he will get arrested.

Easy to make an accusation, do you have proof to show?

If somebody robs the bank you keep your money at, are you going to march down to the police station and "state for the record" the owner of the bank stole your money?

Throughout this entire thread, there have been so many accusations, thoughts, ideas, 100's of "possibles" but very little FACT or proof.

Just because you dox somebody and exploit everything you can find about them does not make them guilty.

I challenge any and all trolls in this box to give some actual "proof" that those coins sitting there untouched were stolen by Paul Vernon.
If you can do that, then you have a case, if not then you have NOTHING.

What are you a fucking moron ?

People been begging the man to give back their money and he has refused to do so.

Idiot !

For the record, Cryptolicious is an asshole.

Hmm, asshole or arsehole? Sorry for my bad, not academic english.

He probably meant both  rofl

[mycoinsstore]

The real question still remains, has anyone filed criminal charges against him? Hike down to the police station, state for the record that "Paul Vernon stole my money". That is the quickest way he will get arrested.

Easy to make an accusation, do you have proof to show?

If somebody robs the bank you keep your money at, are you going to march down to the police station and "state for the record" the owner of the bank stole your money?

Throughout this entire thread, there have been so many accusations, thoughts, ideas, 100's of "possibles" but very little FACT or proof.

Just because you dox somebody and exploit everything you can find about them does not make them guilty.

I challenge any and all trolls in this box to give some actual "proof" that those coins sitting there untouched were stolen by Paul Vernon.
If you can do that, then you have a case, if not then you have NOTHING.

What are you a fucking moron ?

People been begging the man to give back their money and he has refused to do so.

Idiot !

For the record, Cryptolicious is an asshole.

Hmm, asshole or arsehole? Sorry for my bad, not academic english.

He probably meant both  rofl

Both of holes or both of asses? I wonder...
Sorry for small offtopic.

[silvermetal]

If I am right, I want nothing to do with the giant shitstorm about to hit.

Sure sure well I can see you have a warm welcome in this thread, can it be worse? Maybe you should think positive and people will see you as a savior...or are you involved yourself?

I over time spent more maintaining coins I made than I made off premines. The only wealth I made from crypto was for Chinese clients back in mid to late 2013. At the time they were paying very well to be trained.

Thanks, I appreciate your honesty

Which part of original dev don't you understand???

Most probably the definition of "dev". For me copy coin cloners and developers are two different kind of people.

I see you joined on December 06, 2013, when Bitcoin was worth a ton and all altcoins had value. That's the difference you dont get and is blinding you. When I started an altcoin was worth nothing, given away to friends, trolls, anyone. Traded only in PM's for next to nothing. You come here to make money, lose that mindset and you will think clearer.

To whoever quoted Lucky7 as being a new algo is wrong, takes 2 seconds to see it is scrypt.

Nice try but if I have other reasons to come here. Lost my faith in cryptos about two years ago.

[outatime1]

I found firm evidences how P.Vernon financed Bitebi9 exchange by money from Cryptsy users.

Bitebi9 was founded 28th.July.2015 and start capital was 300.000 CNY(picture below) ~ $46.000 ~ 184 BTC at that time. Money came from Cryptsy old hot wallet(founded before theft) which was used only for paying Cryptsy expenses and refunding new hot wallet from time to time - users did not receive BTC directly from it at all.

From Cryptsy old hot wallet money went to address 17UFQvsFyq7z2tUHHWhAkGsLTYEaCZZp4S at BTCC China exchange,where BTC were changed to CNY.

For period July 2015 - January 2016,  543.5 BTC came from old hot Cryptsy wallet to this address on BTCC.In 2 such transactions 150 BTC and 200 BTC were transfered directly to BTCC - that is far over 100 BTC limit per transaction for users,so there are no doubt that is not user ,but P.Vernon.

Another indication that it is P.Vernon account is that this address received directly from Cryptsy old hot wallet 16 BTC on 10.January.2016,just few days before closure and in time when receiving just 0.01 BTC was impossible.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/17UFQvsFyq7z2tUHHWhAkGsLTYEaCZZp4S

What is also interesting that this address 17UFQvsFyq7z2tUHHWhAkGsLTYEaCZZp4S received 56 BTC from Bittrex and 100 from BTC-e,two exchanges that "hacker" used to sell stolen altcoins and convert them in BTC.

Nice work. The awesome thing about all this is im sure silver law and others are reading this thread to use this info. Some of you should be on retainers. I bet Paul err Bao and others detest the fact these threads expose them. They probably think they are so smart...

The truth of it is the block chain isn't anonymous. As long as there are transaction id's and a link to an address in teh chain somewhere that shows ownership then there is a trail. Once the accusation is there and made they have to counter it with their auditing.

Pauls fucked and he knows it. With the changing landscape china has to work more with other countries on scam stuff so he doesn't have anywhere to hide.

I wonder what pushes people to do this. Bittrex and poloniex have shown that admitting hacks when they happen has a outcome where you can recover. I haven't seen a hidden info hack / scam attempt work yet see cryptsy and paycoin. They all collapse and the owners all end up accountable with fines and/or jail. Do they not learn from past history?

So if all this comes out and the lawyers nail Vernon and get a lot of money back, how do they distribute it?  The class action lawsuit is only for
American customers.  I know it's unlikely, but if they recover a huge amount of money that he used in his new business, and all the American customers get all their money back, then how do the international customers get their money?

[eddie13]

What a clusterfuck this whole mess has turned out to be...

I thought we would have had more conclusive information of what went down by now..

[Fontas Returns]

So, are you saying Paul Dalian = Paul Vernon = Bao Luo? Am I following this right? So is Paul/Bao embezzling from Cryptsy to fund new Chinese shell Companies and launder the embezzled money?

[Gleb Gamow]

So, are you saying Paul Dalian = Paul Vernon = Bao Luo? Am I following this right? So is Paul/Bao embezzling from Cryptsy to fund new Chinese shell Companies and launder the embezzled money?

Correct, or: Paul Vernon is an honest dude that wouldn't lie to your face while taking your moneys and fucking you up the ass while fingering your lady's pussy while he and Jim Shockney watch porn. The ONLY saving grace is that Susan Wilson aka DCGirl and John MacPherson aka Horus are working behind the scenes with the FBI to get to the bottom of the inside job conducted by Paul Vernon with the help of DCGirl, Horus, etc.

[thunderjet]

So, are you saying Paul Dalian = Paul Vernon = Bao Luo? Am I following this right? So is Paul/Bao embezzling from Cryptsy to fund new Chinese shell Companies and launder the embezzled money?

Yes, Paul Vernon and Bao Luo are the same person.Bitebi9,his Chinese exchange was registred as Project Investors inc company.When he was discovered he transfered it to his Chinese paramour Liu Xiuxia.


What are infos about Cryptsy till now:

- 11825 BTC stolen BTC were never moved after so call hack(never happened such thing in crypto world)

- hacker took BTC and altcoins during 5.5 hours long hack and no one at Cryptsy react for that time.It was not flash hack,but slow transfer.
 
- stolen altcoins were sent directly to Bittrex,BTC-e,Huobi(smaller amounts on BTC38 and BTER) from October 2014-July 2015.Transactions were easy to track,but Vernon did not do anything to stop them or alarm exchanges about these transactions,so stolen altcoins were converted in about 4400 BTC

- 8 months after huge hack,poor Vernon bought $1.3 millions worth huge house for cash and 2 expensive SUVs,

- after Cryptsy closure,members found out that not only reported BTC and altcoins missing,but many others coins and cash which were not hacker target - DASH and DOGE worth millions of dollars vanished.From Cryptsy Canada a lot of cash money dissapeared too.Hacker could not take cash so where is it? Now we know that he used members cash money and coins to pay Cryptsy and his own expenses too

- before hack, at least 585 BTC from Silkroad siezed accounts passed through Cryptsy accounts in the time when rogue agent Shaun Bridges controlled them. 75 BTC came directly to Cryptsy cold wallet(which was under Vernon sole control) and was never moved.Probably payment for laundry services and advices

- month before AML,KYC introduction,Vernon fired Shandice Anderson-Fulton, who is specialist for AML,KYC, Fincen and SEC regulations and put totally unexperienced Horus on her place

- starting July 2015 and to the very end,Vernon sucked 545 BTCs from old hot Cryptsy wallet and transfered them to BTCC China address 17UFQvsFyq7z2tUHHWhAkGsLTYEaCZZp4S,where they were sold for needed CNY for Bitebi9 opening and different expenses.Operation were conducted till to end of Cryptsy - on 10th.January 2016. he took last 16 BTC,when nobody can get even 0.01 BTC from Cryptsy,

-he claimed during divorce that he has no income,but he gave all his US properties and money to his wife.Further,that man without income and properties obliged to pay $20000  for big house real estate tax, $15.000 for his wife lawyer expenses, to continue paying for his $1.000.000 life insurance and $2.500 monthly payment for child support.From where he will pay that,no money,no income,no assets?

- in class action lawsuit papers there is statement that IRS Criminal Division and SEC put Cryptsy and Vernon under investigation

[toeshe]

They all should be in court.they all played a part in this crime.The staff ,support staff ,network staff,volunteers,even the damn cleaning staff Jail them all and maybe realtor and realtor broker to

[justdimin]

They all should be in court.they all played a part in this crime.The staff ,support staff ,network staff,volunteers,even the damn cleaning staff Jail them all and maybe realtor and realtor broker to

Yes I also think so , I wonder why they decided to scam when they were largely known for the biggest exchange site. Guys you ruined it just for some money while you could have earned more than that over a long period of time.

[BagHolder010]

How do international customers who lost coins in Cryptsy get them back, do I need to do something with a US court?

[addergebroed]

@thunderjet thanks for that recap, nice work

[spamsucks]

How do international customers who lost coins in Cryptsy get them back, do I need to do something with a US court?

<sigh>

You can't. The money was stolen. about 10 million dollars worth in a hack, the rest (an unknown amount) by cryptsy employees afterwards.
The only thing you can do now is try to file criminal charges against the people working there as they full well knew that you were going to loose your money.

Since the US has started extraditing people to this country for copyright infringement, I can assume that the government of your country can extradite the cryptsy employees who are not hiding in non extradition countries (read that as Paul)

There is ample info on how to find a few of them in this thread. You will just need to go back a bit.

Even then, the odds you will get any money back are slim to none. The only thing you can do is put these people in jail where they belong.

And since craptsy is in receivership, it will be months before they can even get a proper accounting of what was taken and by whom.  It will then take years to sort out who is owed what, and more years before they tell us all that there is nothing they can do... can't juice a turnip I guess.


The only thing left after that (or while its happening) will be criminal charges against the staff... I hope that will be sooner than later.
 

[gembitz]

===> it will be months before they can even get a proper accounting of what was taken and by whom.  ..."

proper accounting? bwaaahaa we are talking about cryptsy!!!    *aaaaand it's gone

[cashintor1]

They all should be in court.they all played a part in this crime.The staff ,support staff ,network staff,volunteers,even the damn cleaning staff Jail them all and maybe realtor and realtor broker to

This!

[fakecryptsynagger]

Hmm what a asshole make big worm hole in bitcoins community
67% cap on crypty small trader to big trader was trap in that crapshitty
Business ,project how we fuck your money .


https://blockchain.info/tx/b3082e100ec9f09a4d898d67481c42e872bc2535e179d6e5dbffafe397dc32c6

13k Btc gone / but we can fuck that vernton dog .

bitebi9 weekly income is $2 to $5 right now running
Resources of cryptsy like support system n machine are use
In bitebi9 ( he just did copy paste job )

Vernon is Osama bin ladan of btcoin community

Soon we send peoples to China to take him down

[gravitate]

So, are you saying Paul Dalian = Paul Vernon = Bao Luo? Am I following this right? So is Paul/Bao embezzling from Cryptsy to fund new Chinese shell Companies and launder the embezzled money?

Yes, Paul Vernon and Bao Luo are the same person.Bitebi9,his Chinese exchange was registred as Project Investors inc company.When he was discovered he transfered it to his Chinese paramour Liu Xiuxia.


What are infos about Cryptsy till now:

- 11825 BTC stolen BTC were never moved after so call hack(never happened such thing in crypto world)

- hacker took BTC and altcoins during 5.5 hours long hack and no one at Cryptsy react for that time.It was not flash hack,but slow transfer.
 
- stolen altcoins were sent directly to Bittrex,BTC-e,Huobi(smaller amounts on BTC38 and BTER) from October 2014-July 2015.Transactions were easy to track,but Vernon did not do anything to stop them or alarm exchanges about these transactions,so stolen altcoins were converted in about 4400 BTC

- 8 months after huge hack,poor Vernon bought $1.3 millions worth huge house for cash and 2 expensive SUVs,

- after Cryptsy closure,members found out that not only reported BTC and altcoins missing,but many others coins and cash which were not hacker target - DASH and DOGE worth millions of dollars vanished.From Cryptsy Canada a lot of cash money dissapeared too.Hacker could not take cash so where is it? Now we know that he used members cash money and coins to pay Cryptsy and his own expenses too

- before hack, at least 585 BTC from Silkroad siezed accounts passed through Cryptsy accounts in the time when rogue agent Shaun Bridges controlled them. 75 BTC came directly to Cryptsy cold wallet(which was under Vernon sole control) and was never moved.Probably payment for laundry services and advices

- month before AML,KYC introduction,Vernon fired Shandice Anderson-Fulton, who is specialist for AML,KYC, Fincen and SEC regulations and put totally unexperienced Horus on her place

- starting July 2015 and to the very end,Vernon sucked 545 BTCs from old hot Cryptsy wallet and transfered them to BTCC China address 17UFQvsFyq7z2tUHHWhAkGsLTYEaCZZp4S,where they were sold for needed CNY for Bitebi9 opening and different expenses.Operation were conducted till to end of Cryptsy - on 10th.January 2016. he took last 16 BTC,when nobody can get even 0.01 BTC from Cryptsy,

-he claimed during divorce that he has no income,but he gave all his US properties and money to his wife.Further,that man without income and properties obliged to pay $20000  for big house real estate tax, $15.000 for his wife lawyer expenses, to continue paying for his $1.000.000 life insurance and $2.500 monthly payment for child support.From where he will pay that,no money,no income,no assets?

- in class action lawsuit papers there is statement that IRS Criminal Division and SEC put Cryptsy and Vernon under investigation

Thank you for this... But this makes me go CRAZY MAD