CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Gleb Gamow]

Just checked my old emails and noted that Cryptsy scammed me long before they shutdown and long before most others were scammed.

I had problems logging in to their website at Cryptsy. They would not let me reset it. They ignored subsequent requests. A few weeks later I received a message from someone saying he was away on leave and just got back and wanted to ask about my logging in problems but even after that they did not allow me to reset my password and log in to Cryptsy.

How many years imprisonment would the owners of Cryptsy get if they returned to the USA?

Is it a fact or a rumour that he is in China?

Does the USA and China have an extradition treaty?

If Paul returns to the US, he'll be slapped with a fine and probation with time served for having had to suffer living in China.

It's a fact.

Not a rumor.

Only one guy in China - Paul Vernon.

No extradition treaty.

Ginny is back to fucking horses on her and Jim's Texas ranch, uploading videos of said on their Library of Thumbs website.

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[JollyGood]

What about these people I have listed below. Their names were at the footer of emails they sent when they would not let me access my account after 6 months of inactivity.

Were they also part of the scam or were they simply employees who knew nothing?

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Sincerely,
Karen
Cryptsy.com
Karen's Trade Key
585bd349400e42431d859faa00ace9ec30ca53e0
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Sincerely,
Stephanie
Cryptsy.com
Stephanie's Trade Key
09aa480347b4b9f42bf0e36dfc20a9b48e73080b
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Sincerely,
Phoebe
Cryptsy.com
Phoebe's Trade Key:
68c3f9dc1d39bb8937a72e451c1d370edd534a2f
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Sincerely,
Marjorie
Cryptsy.com
Marjorie's Trade Key:
76c504835a82afcaee32ee4b8a1933f378b51d09
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Sincerely,
Grace
Cryptsy Security Agent
Cryptsy.com
Grace's Trade Key
ff6b5268c43890eccd602c63a2c0c3232790dd7a
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This Grace person was the "security officer" who my case was escalated to because I could not recall the answers to security questions. The idea was simply to block access to steal my coins, it seems before they scammed everyone else they had a policy of stealing coins from all clients that did not login for 6 months.
 
Paul Vernon was knows as "Big Vern" right? There was also a "BitJohn" along with another prominent character that I cannot remember the name of. How deeply were they involved in the scam? Did anyone actually get arrested? Where are all these people now? Surely not all of them have fled to China

[Gleb Gamow]

What about these people I have listed below. Their names were at the footer of emails they sent when they would not let me access my account after 6 months of inactivity.

Were they also part of the scam or were they simply employees who knew nothing?

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Sincerely,
Karen
Cryptsy.com
Karen's Trade Key
585bd349400e42431d859faa00ace9ec30ca53e0
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Sincerely,
Stephanie
Cryptsy.com
Stephanie's Trade Key
09aa480347b4b9f42bf0e36dfc20a9b48e73080b
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Sincerely,
Phoebe
Cryptsy.com
Phoebe's Trade Key:
68c3f9dc1d39bb8937a72e451c1d370edd534a2f
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Sincerely,
Marjorie
Cryptsy.com
Marjorie's Trade Key:
76c504835a82afcaee32ee4b8a1933f378b51d09
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Sincerely,
Grace
Cryptsy Security Agent
Cryptsy.com
Grace's Trade Key
ff6b5268c43890eccd602c63a2c0c3232790dd7a
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This Grace person was the "security officer" who my case was escalated to because I could not recall the answers to security questions. The idea was simply to block access to steal my coins, it seems before they scammed everyone else they had a policy of stealing coins from all clients that did not login for 6 months.
 
Paul Vernon was knows as "Big Vern" right? There was also a "BitJohn" along with another prominent character that I cannot remember the name of. How deeply were they involved in the scam? Did anyone actually get arrested? Where are all these people now? Surely not all of them have fled to China

I'm leaning heavily toward them gals being part of Jim Shockney's support team, most, if not all, working remotely outta the Philippines. Taxing my memory, Grace may be the most closest to Jim, recalling a wedding on Facebook.

The support team that I'm alluding to was defunct in January of the year that Jim came on board in October. That much is certain. Jim, his wife, Ginny, and Paul have been partners in various businesses since the late 90's, mostly in the porn sector, but did venture to another sector where they ripped off folks prior to getting their feet wet in crypto. I'm sure that Paul's dick stayed hard as a rock for months when he stumbled upon Bitcoin et al.

[JollyGood]

How tragic that when this Paul Vernon character was enticing customers to deposit funds to the exchange, no one dug out his previous history and alerted the rest of the crypto-world.

[RoomBot]

I was alerted to Cryptsy's "Craptsy" status on BCT YEARS before the Big Steal.  People on this very thread were warning you people for YEARS.

Once they accepted a Paycoin "Prime Controller'" (hyper-inflationary XPY private keys) from Scam King Garza, it was OBVIOUS they were totally corrupt.

I mean, if you can't trust BCT Trolls & FUD, who can you trust??  

[JollyGood]

I was alerted to Cryptsy's "Craptsy" status on BCT YEARS before the Big Steal.  People on this very thread were warning you people for YEARS.

Once they accepted a Paycoin "Prime Controller'" (hyper-inflationary XPY private keys) from Scam King Garza, it was OBVIOUS they were totally corrupt.

I mean, if you can't trust BCT Trolls & FUD, who can you trust??  

Did you lose any money at the hands of Cryptsy?

[RoomBot]

ZERO.

I got everything out when Cryptsy did dirty deals with Josh Garza's Paycoin scam.

[JollyGood]

ZERO.

I got everything out when Cryptsy did dirty deals with Josh Garza's Paycoin scam.

Glad to hear you saved yourself from getting scammed.

How much would you say is the total losses facing Cryptsy investors?

[YuTü.Co.in]

ZERO.

I got everything out when Cryptsy did dirty deals with Josh Garza's Paycoin scam.

Glad to hear you saved yourself from getting scammed.

How much would you say is the total losses facing Cryptsy investors?

I, too, am seeking a documented figure. If it's over U$7M, I may have to do some adjusting to my plan.

Bruno

[JollyGood]

I, too, am seeking a documented figure. If it's over U$7M, I may have to do some adjusting to my plan.

Bruno

I would like to get my coins back or the cash equivalent on the day of the theft or at todays rate... either way I would like some compensation even if it is to be atthe lowest rate available. I do not know how get ball point figures of exactly how many coins I had in Cryptsy though I do have an estimation.

[YuTü.Co.in]

I, too, am seeking a documented figure. If it's over U$7M, I may have to do some adjusting to my plan.

Bruno

I would like to get my coins back or the cash equivalent on the day of the theft or at todays rate... either way I would like some compensation even if it is to be atthe lowest rate available. I do not know how get ball point figures of exactly how many coins I had in Cryptsy though I do have an estimation.

At this speaking, the best I'll be able to do is to give you an equivalent as of November 1, 2015 (I believe that's the date that the lawyers are using - correct me if I'm mistaken). And that's only if you filed with the class action suit. All other proof will/could be handled on one-to-one basis.

I'm calling the plan the Cryptsy Relief Fund (CRF).

Bruno

[Horus_Cryptsy]

What about these people I have listed below. Their names were at the footer of emails they sent when they would not let me access my account after 6 months of inactivity.

Were they also part of the scam or were they simply employees who knew nothing?

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Sincerely,
Karen
Cryptsy.com
Karen's Trade Key
585bd349400e42431d859faa00ace9ec30ca53e0
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Sincerely,
Stephanie
Cryptsy.com
Stephanie's Trade Key
09aa480347b4b9f42bf0e36dfc20a9b48e73080b
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Sincerely,
Phoebe
Cryptsy.com
Phoebe's Trade Key:
68c3f9dc1d39bb8937a72e451c1d370edd534a2f
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Sincerely,
Marjorie
Cryptsy.com
Marjorie's Trade Key:
76c504835a82afcaee32ee4b8a1933f378b51d09
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Sincerely,
Grace
Cryptsy Security Agent
Cryptsy.com
Grace's Trade Key
ff6b5268c43890eccd602c63a2c0c3232790dd7a
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They were all oblivious staff out of PH. They worked under Jim.

[JollyGood]

They were all oblivious staff out of PH. They worked under Jim.

So does that mean there was no real 'hack' at Cryptsy?

Does it mean Paul Vernon basically screwed everyone over and blamed it on a non-existent 'hack' then fled to the far away land of China to live off of our coins but is citing he ran away because he got scared of facing the music over the non-existent hack?

I just checked this BitJohn character on the forum here, he has not logged in for over a year. Can anyone say for sure he was not part of the scam?

Also this Jim Shockney character, is this his real name because not much is available about him. If he, his wife, Paul Vernon and his wife were in to porn together and were a tight knit group surely he would be part of the scam if he was involved with Cryptsy so where are BitJohn and Jim Shockney? Did the police ever speak to them?

[JollyGood]

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-disappeared-along-with-millions-of-his-customers-cash-8557571

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-speaks-out-about-millions-in-lost-customer-funds-8568540

Here are two very interesting articles about Paul Vernon and Cryptsy. Good bits of information here that I never knew.

[mymenace]

What about these people I have listed below. Their names were at the footer of emails they sent when they would not let me access my account after 6 months of inactivity.

Were they also part of the scam or were they simply employees who knew nothing?

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Sincerely,
Karen
Cryptsy.com
Karen's Trade Key
585bd349400e42431d859faa00ace9ec30ca53e0
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Sincerely,
Stephanie
Cryptsy.com
Stephanie's Trade Key
09aa480347b4b9f42bf0e36dfc20a9b48e73080b
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Sincerely,
Phoebe
Cryptsy.com
Phoebe's Trade Key:
68c3f9dc1d39bb8937a72e451c1d370edd534a2f
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Sincerely,
Marjorie
Cryptsy.com
Marjorie's Trade Key:
76c504835a82afcaee32ee4b8a1933f378b51d09
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Sincerely,
Grace
Cryptsy Security Agent
Cryptsy.com
Grace's Trade Key
ff6b5268c43890eccd602c63a2c0c3232790dd7a
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They were all oblivious staff out of PH. They worked under Jim.

Ignorance of the law does not make u innocent, ignorance of incompetence does not make you innocent, being incompetent does not make you innocent

And I said it before certain people do not give a #@!* if you were oblivious or not.

[JollyGood]

They were all oblivious staff out of PH. They worked under Jim.

Thank you for clarification Horus_Cryptsy. Judging by your name you were somehow connected to Cryptsy, will you please elaborate on it if you were.

The articles mention nothing about the depth of involvement by other people and seem to point the finger clearly at Paul Vernon. It seems as though some must have been totally oblivious to what was going on but maybe some were involved such as Grace who did nothing to help me log back in after blocking my access. The whole thing seemed to me to be delay tactics and whereas stealing coins directly from cold wallets or otherwise would have been clearly something Paul Vernon could have done as and when he pleased, it would have been impossible for him to maintain the charade without help. Some others had to have been involved either with full or partial knowledge about what was happening and with guidance from Paul Vernon. I think Grace is a stand out candidate for being complicit.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-disappeared-along-with-millions-of-his-customers-cash-8557571

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-speaks-out-about-millions-in-lost-customer-funds-8568540

[joepl]

I dont know exact of the US law is but if someone has stole cryptos so should give back reconstruction value isnt ?

I had some of cryptos there and i dont car US dollars I dont care gold ... i dont care corn etc... etc ..  I care exact cryptos

agreed ?

[JollyGood]

I dont know exact of the US law is but if someone has stole cryptos so should give back reconstruction value isnt ?

I had some of cryptos there and i dont car US dollars I dont care gold ... i dont care corn etc... etc ..  I care exact cryptos

agreed ?

I think the way the law works almost everywhere (except super-corrupt countries) is that the enforcement officers will confiscate assets belonging to the company or those that were purchased from proceeds of the scam, they are then sold with the recovered money being distributed between the people that lost out.

As Paul Vernon has vanished and no bitcoins or other altcoins will be recovered it seems the only assets that have been recovered are a mansion and maybe a car or two. This totals just under $2 million or so. It is this amount that will be used to pay back investors who signed up to the class action. I missed the deadline and did not register.

I think there will be legal fees involved as well which will be deducted from the $2m as well therefore the amount received by the people who claimed will be even less.

[dunja22]

i just figured out all of my altcoins from cryptsy were transferred to poloniex, so cryptsy = poliniex?

[JollyGood]

i just figured out all of my altcoins from cryptsy were transferred to poloniex, so cryptsy = poliniex?

How can you be so sure?