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January 04, 2023, 08:53:36 PM
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Personally, I do not think that the players should be held accountable for taking some performance, enhancing materials, just because they dropped an insane performance in a match. I am also positive that he did not take anything like that.

I know for a lot of people, it is going to be hard to believe that he was actually “in the zone“. But that can happen and that has happened previously. However, I also think that the authority is very much in their right to check if he is actually taking any substance or not. If the player is not taking anything, which I believe he did not, everything should be fine.
I think it is definitely possible for players to have good games and this was one of them, plus he didn't had this much points for the first three quarters neither, it didn't look like a 71 point game at all, it was like a 40+ even maybe 50 point game at best which does happen time to time, we have seen it done by Luka so many times in a row during December for example.

The difference was that he had a good game like that, but then it also went to OT and he scored a bunch of points there too. Other team gave up eventually, and his team got him the ball and he was on fire so he put them in. That's the greatest thing and it does help him a lot too.

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January 04, 2023, 09:07:59 PM
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I simply don't know if Jazz are awful or if Kings are good this season.... because Jazz had a phenomenal start of season by going in 1st place and having a massive winning streak and since then , they are in free falling that seems it won't stop soon. Then , we have Kings who have been at the bottom of NBA for quite some years now but since they got Sabonis , the entire team kinda changed and I don't see them missing the play-offs anymore and this can be a massive boost in moral for this team but also for the city and fans. Cool
Did you watch the game? Sacramento Kings are just getting better. Sabonis is a monster but when Fox also becomes a nine-tailed Fox they become a team that is hard to beat. Utah Jazz is not an awful team and in fact, it was a close game until the 4th quarter. I don't remember a time it went to a high double-digit lead or I must have missed it.

Yeah, and for us bettors, how many times did Sacramento give us good wins, hehehe.

Sabonis is really the big difference for them obviously, they have a big guy, all over, that can shoot and include other players that's this team is very deep in my opinion.

And then Fox now becoming that we are expected of him, and he indeed put a show against the Jazz fans and that dagger drive for a 2 point lead. I wanted to see an OT by damn, Fox is really quick on his feet and easy lay up for a go ahead basket.

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January 04, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
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Career night for Giannis but it's weird that his previous career high was only 52. Now he made 55, I feel like he should've already scored 60+ a couple of times. I think a star player with 33 ppg stats can do better in a game. Of course, this makes the 60-70 point performances even more special. Shooting 60+ in a game is very different from throwing 30 in each game. Giannis is a special player, I think he will break his record again soon.
Besides Giannis I think Brook Lopez is the most important part of this team. His domination in the paint is something else. He might be the defender of the year so far. We should also mention Bobby Portis for Bucks' achievements. His double double stats from bench is very important. Bucks is going good but East is harder than ever, so anything is still possible.

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January 05, 2023, 12:13:26 AM
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Speaking of career-highs, several players were able to establish it this season.

To name some:

Luka Doncic - 60 points
Anthony Davis - 55 points
Joel Embiid - 59 points
Donovan Mitchell - 71 points
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 55 points

Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?

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January 05, 2023, 03:36:39 AM
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Anyone see the game between the Pacers and the Sixers? no Joel, but they took the lead majority of the game, until it was down in the 4 minute mark wherein the Pacers take a 4 point lead.

However, they force several turn over and tie the score and force OT. And we all know that when the team that chases and force that OT, they usually have the momentum and so this what happen to them, Pacers got tired the whole regular quarters and then the home team has the final push, 129-126 score.

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January 05, 2023, 03:39:46 AM
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Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?
Even analysts are also saying that today's generation isn't the same as where it was in the 90's.

During the time of Jordan, you can see the physicality in their games. Sometimes there is blood coming out on them. Players are very physical that if they play in the current era, you will just get ejected immediately. Referees right now are softer. The league is more focusing on offense more than defense that's why we are seeing players who are scoring more than 40 and sometimes 50 in a single game. I just saw an ESPN video hours ago saying that the '98 Finals against the Jazz and Bulls. On that whole series, no team scored more than 100 points. That shows how tough it is to score and just how they are playing defensively

We can also say that there is much talent right now with the players that's why they can put up these many points. Players got evolved and they are into "Offense wins games" mindset where they will be focusing more on offense. Just look at Gobert. He is the perfect example of how defense is almost non-existent right now. Gobert is a very good defender and won DPOY in the past but lacks offense and now, he is having his worst season in the Timberwolves (and I also consider it the worst trade).

Players right now are more focused on offense because you can't win with defense alone that's why you need to be better on offense as well.

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January 05, 2023, 03:55:37 AM
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And so the trend continues with high caliber NBA players pushing their limit, Giannis against the Wizards, 55 points, 10 boards, 7 assists. I know, this is payback time for Giannis as some of the bettors are made against him not playing the last time because of the late news about his injuries and so majority of us lost our parlay and singles bet.

As for the Mitchell drug tested, I think it's fair, I didn't click on the link but what is the NBA looking for as a sort of performance enhancing drugs in basketball?

Steroids.  Not that I think he is on them but being artificially stronger than opposing guards is a huge advantage.  Being able to muscle through the lane, shoot through contact etc.  They randomly check every team/player, it just so happens that dude went nuts the night they got checked.  Could be a mere coincidence, I haven't read up whether it was a random or non random check.
Whether random or his performance triggered a drug test doesn't matter. All players agree to tests at any time and if he is clean, he has nothing to worry about. Personally, I think he's clean but better safe than sorry when it comes to a billion-dollar sport like the NBA.

I also don't suspect that he has taking any enhancing drugs for that matter. We have seen him scoring even when he was still in Utah, maybe he just woke up on the right side of the bed and just decided to take over that game and win it for them.

And now it's Giannis turn to have a 50 point game performance, Klay had one as well. And so as we have discussed, this season is going to be a special one with this kind of scoring and specially if Lebron will break Jabbar's record it will be the ultimate scoring record.

I guess it was just a surprise test because Donovan Mitchell managed to put 71 points with 11 assists which got the NBA executives thinking that maybe he was on PEDs that's why he managed to drop that kind of stats, honestly, it was surprising too but that didn't gave me some doubts that he was on some kind of enhancing drugs. Also, he is not alone in this season because lots of players in any given team also managed to put up huge stats.

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January 05, 2023, 04:08:31 AM
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We can also say that there is much talent right now with the players that's why they can put up these many points. Players got evolved and they are into "Offense wins games" mindset where they will be focusing more on offense.

Adding to that, some players today can really score that much even with good defense and well-contested, either on the perimeter, beyond the arc, or inside the paint. That's why I mentioned that it's not just about the question of where's the defense now in today's generation but rather players really evolved that's why offense becomes efficient.

Even big men in today's NBA can even nail a shot beyond the arc compared to before the era. These big guys even have a much higher 3-point FG percentage compared to some SG and SF role players. That's how big the changes is since then.

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January 05, 2023, 04:11:26 AM
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Speaking of career-highs, several players were able to establish it this season.

To name some:

Luka Doncic - 60 points
Anthony Davis - 55 points
Joel Embiid - 59 points
Donovan Mitchell - 71 points
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 55 points

Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?

You can add Devin Booker, not personal best but he had 58 points two weeks ago and then Klay Thompson 54 points a week ago.

So yes, it seems that the league plays no defense at all, we can say that as well as we have seen teams scoring 140 or higher points per game. Just the other night, OKC blasted Celtics with a huge 150 point game, a Celtics team that lead the Eastern Conference.

And with that, I do agree that there are no defense and the game is being played at a high pace game right now.

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January 05, 2023, 05:37:22 AM
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Speaking of career-highs, several players were able to establish it this season.

To name some:

Luka Doncic - 60 points
Anthony Davis - 55 points
Joel Embiid - 59 points
Donovan Mitchell - 71 points
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 55 points

Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?
Hmm... your question is interesting.

I have no doubt that the NBA of the 70s, 80s and 90s is different ""style of play"" today.

In the last decades, there were hardly some tall players with an excellent shoot and good ball control, unlike today, when there are several PF, C with these attributes that I mentioned just above.

I would also include the qualities that most players have today, it is the three point shoot, in the past, very rare were tall players who had this attribute, unlike today, there are several PF and C with this quality.

And that's the future, time goes by I have no doubt that many tall and skilled players will be drafted into the NBA.

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January 05, 2023, 05:44:04 AM
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Career night for Giannis but it's weird that his previous career high was only 52. Now he made 55, I feel like he should've already scored 60+ a couple of times. I think a star player with 33 ppg stats can do better in a game. Of course, this makes the 60-70 point performances even more special. Shooting 60+ in a game is very different from throwing 30 in each game. Giannis is a special player, I think he will break his record again soon.
One of the reasons why he hasn't reached 60+ per game before was his free throw shooting. He is always fouled but his free throw sucked. Now it's improved although not perfect. Today 15/16 at the line and I think that's one of his best career free throws made especially that many attempted.
If he keeps this up nightly basis then he would break his career-best over and over.

Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?
New added rules. It's difficult to be good defensively in this era.
Yes, because of the flaw, many players are taking advantage of it and just polishing their offensive power instead of defense. Those who cannot shoot well though will make this a top priority to keep their career. Like Draymond Green. He always argues with the referees because he plays by the book and it can be seen in how he contests paint attackers. I am not a fan of his bad mouth but he's really good at what he does, overall defense.

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January 05, 2023, 06:21:14 AM
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Speaking of career-highs, several players were able to establish it this season.

To name some:

Luka Doncic - 60 points
Anthony Davis - 55 points
Joel Embiid - 59 points
Donovan Mitchell - 71 points
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 55 points

Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?

I am one of those who believe that today's players just evolved. I'm so fed up with how old people romanticising the past as if their defense still works the way how players played today compared before.
We can obviously see the difference when watch the games from the 70's, 80's or even the 90's. You wont see much players with a heavily built physic but could be as agile and fast as a PG. You won't see much of a big men who can shoot anywhere on the floor.
The past era of the NBA are only more physical than today, because they're also less athletic than the players today.

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January 05, 2023, 07:46:07 AM
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Speaking of career-highs, several players were able to establish it this season.

To name some:

Luka Doncic - 60 points
Anthony Davis - 55 points
Joel Embiid - 59 points
Donovan Mitchell - 71 points
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 55 points

Now leads again to the argument that NBA today has no defense at all.

Personally, I would say that today's NBA can't be compared to the past where hard defense is really a big thing. But is that really a defense or is it just that players today just evolved and got improved where the offense is way more efficient? Thoughts?

I am one of those who believe that today's players just evolved. I'm so fed up with how old people romanticising the past as if their defense still works the way how players played today compared before.
We can obviously see the difference when watch the games from the 70's, 80's or even the 90's. You wont see much players with a heavily built physic but could be as agile and fast as a PG. You won't see much of a big men who can shoot anywhere on the floor.
The past era of the NBA are only more physical than today, because they're also less athletic than the players today.

Of course, we can't compare era's, and as well as the team and players have evolved, 3 point shot are part of the norm now, There are players like Lillard, Trae Young and Curry who are shooting beyond the arc. Big men two have evolved into shooting outside, like Jokic.

So we are in a different era right now that as Luka said, it's easy to score in the NBA. And we can add to the sports medicine and trainings too has progressed in the last 20 years. A lot has really contributed why we are now seeing players scoring 40 points and higher per night.

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January 05, 2023, 08:37:35 AM
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Lakers 112 - 109 Heat

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we have been performing well in the last few games, for this game in the first period we won comfortably by a difference of 11 points, then in the second period we lowered the pace and with that we lost by a small difference of points, but in the third period we lost again but with a small difference in points compared to the 2nd period, and finally in the fourth period we managed to win by a small difference in points, with this victory we have 4 victories in the last 5 games and we already have 3 consecutive victories, and a better performance than even a few weeks ago




Even though the Lakers were severely shorthanded missing three starters in LeBron James, Anthony Davis and Lonnie Walker IV, they still came away with a 112-109 victory to improve to 17-21.

https://s22928.pcdn.co/recap-shorthanded-lakers-come-away-with-scrappy-win-over-heat/2023/01/04/

without a doubt Dennis Schroder was the guy who boosted our victory, he scored 32 points, our next game will be against the Hawks, we're going to beat them again



King 117 - 120 Hawks

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January 05, 2023, 09:36:19 AM
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What a night in NBA games , right ?

Starting with Bulls who got a very important victory over Nets who had a winning streak of 9 games before meeting Bulls. With this mega important win , Bulls keeps their dream alive of getting into play-offs.

Kings...man...I've had a post about them some days ago and I was talking about how great they are this year and play-offs should be reachable for them but last night Hawks had a little bit of extra luck and manage to put those essential 3 points in front and locked the victory.

Lakers...are playing much better without LeBron and AD in my opinion only.

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January 05, 2023, 10:11:25 AM
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What a night in NBA games , right ?

Starting with Bulls who got a very important victory over Nets who had a winning streak of 9 games before meeting Bulls. With this mega important win , Bulls keeps their dream alive of getting into play-offs.

Yeah, finally, the Bulls played very well in their homecourt and what a way to win against the hottest team in the Nets, finally seeing their winning streak ended.

The Warriors as well, ending their successful run in their homecourt losing to Detroit.

Kings...man...I've had a post about them some days ago and I was talking about how great they are this year and play-offs should be reachable for them but last night Hawks had a little bit of extra luck and manage to put those essential 3 points in front and locked the victory.

Another close game by the Kings, unfortunately, Trae Young and Murray had a big games, both with 21 points.

Lakers...are playing much better without LeBron and AD in my opinion only.

It's probably they feel comfortable at their homecourt that even without AD and Bron, they manage a close win against the Heat.
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I was surprised to see the Lakers pull out a win over the Miami Heat. Without LeBron James in the lineup you had to figure the Heat would win easily but that wasn’t the case. Schroeder stepped up and scored 32 to lead them. Adebayo and Butler had big games for the Heat also, but it wasn’t enough for them to get the win as they lost by 3, 109-112 Lakers.

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January 05, 2023, 11:41:13 AM
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So we are in a different era right now that as Luka said, it's easy to score in the NBA. And we can add to the sports medicine and trainings too has progressed in the last 20 years. A lot has really contributed why we are now seeing players scoring 40 points and higher per night.

Let's just appreciate how they play right now and so far, this is the most surprising season we had in the last 10 years because of how the star players in the teams turning their games into something historical play. With them being consistent in making their shots to score more than 50 points, they are about to surpass some great records this season and they are a few more points to be in the second but Kobe's still the best one after Wilt's 100. Do you guys think Victor Wembanyama can be the next Wilt Chamberlain? let's see if he gonna score more points in his first-season debut in the NBA.

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January 05, 2023, 11:46:23 AM
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So we are in a different era right now that as Luka said, it's easy to score in the NBA. And we can add to the sports medicine and trainings too has progressed in the last 20 years. A lot has really contributed why we are now seeing players scoring 40 points and higher per night.

Let's just appreciate how they play right now and so far, this is the most surprising season we had in the last 10 years because of how the star players in the teams turning their games into something historical play. With them being consistent in making their shots to score more than 50 points, they are about to surpass some great records this season and they are a few more points to be in the second but Kobe's still the best one after Wilt's 100.
Because nowadays they are more focus on 3 point shots, and the games are in a fast pace mode. Look at the scoring, most of the teams combine can easily score 220 points, before I think some teams even struggle to reach 200 points.

Do you guys think Victor Wembanyama can be the next Wilt Chamberlain? let's see if he gonna score more points in his first-season debut in the NBA.
What team do you think would sign him? is he gonna play next season?

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January 05, 2023, 01:29:18 PM
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So we are in a different era right now that as Luka said, it's easy to score in the NBA. And we can add to the sports medicine and trainings too has progressed in the last 20 years. A lot has really contributed why we are now seeing players scoring 40 points and higher per night.

Let's just appreciate how they play right now and so far, this is the most surprising season we had in the last 10 years because of how the star players in the teams turning their games into something historical play. With them being consistent in making their shots to score more than 50 points, they are about to surpass some great records this season and they are a few more points to be in the second but Kobe's still the best one after Wilt's 100. Do you guys think Victor Wembanyama can be the next Wilt Chamberlain? let's see if he gonna score more points in his first-season debut in the NBA.
That will be tested. Because sometimes rookies tend to be surprised at how big the difference the NBA can be. There will be bullies, there will be unwanted physical contact, and locker room issues. If he can somehow deal with that after a year or two then we could say he might surpass even the greatest name in NBA history.
Then there's building a team to surround him with good players if the management wants him to be the face of their franchise. This is where it all goes wrong for one great player. Lebron took years before he can get a championship although he was a promising rookie at the start of his career.

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