[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[Icardi09]

Vouch for trezor!Using this all the time

[NEO2012]

Vouch for trezor!Using this all the time

im not exaclty that happy

mytrezor plugin freezes in firefox chrome and ie even before i plugin in the trezor on

 2 different machines one windows7 desktop

one vista laptop same mytrezor crashes freezes in all brozers even before i plugin device

im trying electrum now and trezor is hang at signing transaction for over one hour , i have latest firmware on trezor

i was geting 30 minutes 45 minutes 1 hour transaction signing times even before wen it was barelly workin with firefox


any ideas? im livid

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp


ps. i already tried different usb cables and on 2 different systems same result

also i installed electrum on 2 different pcs  and same results over 1 hour 2hour wait and signing transaction bar barelly moves

[stick]

mytrezor plugin freezes in firefox chrome and ie even before i plugin in the trezor on

Uninstall Plugin and try using Chrome Extension.

[jim618]

Vouch for trezor!Using this all the time

im not exaclty that happy

mytrezor plugin freezes in firefox chrome and ie even before i plugin in the trezor on

 2 different machines one windows7 desktop

one vista laptop same mytrezor crashes freezes in all brozers even before i plugin device

im trying electrum now and trezor is hang at signing transaction for over one hour , i have latest firmware on trezor

i was geting 30 minutes 45 minutes 1 hour transaction signing times even before wen it was barelly workin with firefox


any ideas? im livid

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp


ps. i already tried different usb cables and on 2 different systems same result

also i installed electrum on 2 different pcs  and same results over 1 hour 2hour wait and signing transaction bar barelly moves

Try MultiBit HD.
It has support out of the box for Trezor (though only what's labelled 'Account 1' in myTrezor.com).

There's a bit of a sync when you first create a Trezor wallet (10 mins or so) whilst it trawls through the blockchain but after that it syncs from where you left off.

The integration really is plug in your Trezor and follow the instructions.

[yaoxin]

How is with trezor?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108304.0

[Reynaldo]

How is with trezor?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108304.0

The same stuff, trezor holds privatecoins and can't see the blockchain thus imagine it as a hardware that only cointains a privkey; therefor, if you send anybitcoin to trezor's address you might receive it if its confirmed on the right blocks, if the transaction was built on an invalied SPV block you'll see that it will vanish since it was done in a fake blockchain, just wait 30 more confirmations to be sure.

[stick]

How is with trezor?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108304.0

myTREZOR backend runs full node and I recently upgraded it to 0.10.2 so this should be a non-issue.

[Scamc0p]

Was thinking of this or one of those usb ones(forgot the name of it).
Seems alot better than bit-core with all the problems they have had in the last few months.

[gravitate]

will you be doing the Stainless steel version again>?

[Carlton Banks]

https://github.com/trezor/python-trezor/blob/master/trezorctl#L317

Re:python-trezor

Looking at this part of the trezorctl.py code, it looks alot like transactions cannot be signed using python-trezor. What option is there for those who don't want xpubs and master xpubs disclosed to all the 3rd party services that offer Trezor transaction signing/broadcasting? Surely not nothing?

[Carlton Banks]

http://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-apps/index.html#using-trezor-with-bitcoin-and-altcoin-wallets

That information isn't complete. It does imply that there is no way of keeping your xpub/master public key private, but python-trezor isn't on the list.

[Carlton Banks]

Running your own Electrum server: https://www.sky-ip.org/configure-electrum-server-debian-ubuntu.html

It appears that running your own Electrum server is the only way right now to use a Trezor while maintaining public key privacy. It's not so simple to setup, but the instructions seem comprehensive and well written.

[fonsie]

Running your own Electrum server: https://www.sky-ip.org/configure-electrum-server-debian-ubuntu.html

It appears that running your own Electrum server is the only way right now to use a Trezor while maintaining public key privacy. It's not so simple to setup, but the instructions seem comprehensive and well written.

Isn't it possible to use an offline PC to sign the transaction using electrum+trezor and broadcast the transaction on a online PC, kind of defeats the convenience of a trezor, but it shouldn't leak anything. Also, no need to setup your own server. ...?

[Carlton Banks]

Isn't it possible to use an offline PC to sign the transaction using electrum+trezor and broadcast the transaction on a online PC

I too thought that was possible, but it's not.

[Erdogan]

Isn't it possible to use an offline PC to sign the transaction using electrum+trezor and broadcast the transaction on a online PC

I too thought that was possible, but it's not.

It is not necessary. The point of the trezor is to be the offline computer.

[Carlton Banks]

Isn't it possible to use an offline PC to sign the transaction using electrum+trezor and broadcast the transaction on a online PC

I too thought that was possible, but it's not.

It is not necessary. The point of the trezor is to be the offline computer.

Thanks, but I know. Offline Trezor usage is not what I'm interested in, protecting the chain of public keys is. My bad, I didn't leave the quotes for the whole discussion in the post.

[kkurtmann]

Because of privacy.

[Carlton Banks]

Isn't it possible to use an offline PC to sign the transaction using electrum+trezor and broadcast the transaction on a online PC

I too thought that was possible, but it's not.

It is not necessary. The point of the trezor is to be the offline computer.

Thanks, but I know. Offline Trezor usage is not what I'm interested in, protecting the chain of public keys is. My bad, I didn't leave the quotes for the whole discussion in the post.

Why are so keen in protecting your Extended Public key?   Please educate me.   I was under the impression that only protection of the Private keys was important.

Yep, privacy.

1. The 3rd parties who broadcast your Trezor transactions for you necessarily know the xpub (and possibly the entire public key seed too). That information could be used to discover all the money you have/had with that Trezor seed.  

2. If you want to use "Sign in with Trezor", depending on the way that scheme is implemented, could also reveal xpub or public key seed to the services you use it to sign in with. That provides a possible way to link your website profiles together (and the email, real name, real address, other real world info etc), and also to link those profiles with all the money you have/had with that Trezor seed.

I realise there are good reasons to trust MyTrezor.com, an Electrum server or a miner you resolve your Multibit SPV transactions with. But that doesn't account for hacks/mistakes at their end. My preference would be to eliminate the need to trust those people with the xpub information altogether. Rule #1 of keeping information off the internet: don't even make the information available to begin with.

[fonsie]

1) Use different password for all of your big bucks BTC and your spending money, try to minimize 3rd party exposure with big bucks BTC
2) For sign in use different password
3) Don't buy a house, previous owner knows exactly how much money you've atleast had to buy the house
4) Don't buy a car, dealer knows exactly how ....
5) When buying food, always try to pay the exact amount required, because otherwise the teller knows the amount of change you are carrying.

Luckily for human kind, most of them like to brag about how much they've got. 


But an interesting question nonetheless, it should be fairly simple to sign a transaction offline using Trezor somehow...and broadcast it using your own full node. Sombody just has to write a couple of lines of code.

But now for the bigger problem, how are we going to protect our privacy at the bank, so that people that work at the bank don't stare all night at parties, because they know exactly how much money you've got too.

[Carlton Banks]

1) Use different password for all of your big bucks BTC and your spending money, try to minimize 3rd party exposure with big bucks BTC
2) For sign in use different password
3) Don't buy a house, previous owner knows exactly how much money you've atleast had to buy the house
4) Don't buy a car, dealer knows exactly how ....
5) When buying food, always try to pay the exact amount required, because otherwise the teller knows the amount of change you are carrying.

Luckily for human kind, most of them like to brag about how much they've got. 


But an interesting question nonetheless, it should be fairly simple to sign a transaction offline using Trezor somehow...and broadcast it using your own full node. Sombody just has to write a couple of lines of code.

But now for the bigger problem, how are we going to protect our privacy at the bank, so that people that work at the bank don't stare all night at parties, because they know exactly how much money you've got too.

0) Broadcast Trezor transactions with a wallet that protects your xpub information
1) Forget steps 1-5