Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[thedue]

Any idea why this is happening?! Worked before (connected my BTC adress)... using 1.1.1

Please right click and select both "Inspect" and "Inspect background page".  Send me what you see in the Console.

Uncaught Error: More than one instance of bitcore-lib found. Please make sure to require bitcore-lib and check that submodules do not also include their own bitcore-lib dependency.

Secp256k1 bindings are not compiled. Pure JS implementation will be used.

[tonych]

It's for this reason that it is necessary to save completely the directory of the byteballs, not just seed

Yeah, but you must save it after each transaction lol. It's very hard and here can be some other problems. Like an empty balance

You must not, if you are using multisig:

... private assets, such as blackbytes, are stored only in the wallet (exactly because they are private) and get updated every time you send or receive a private asset.

To secure against loss of the wallet, I recommend that you use multisig.  For example, 1-of-2 multisig with one wallet on the phone, the other on a desktop computer.  This way, the private assets will be automatically copied to the two devices.

Interesting, will it work if one of the devices is offline?

Yes.

[tonych]

Any idea why this is happening?! Worked before (connected my BTC adress)... using 1.1.1

Please right click and select both "Inspect" and "Inspect background page".  Send me what you see in the Console.

Uncaught Error: More than one instance of bitcore-lib found. Please make sure to require bitcore-lib and check that submodules do not also include their own bitcore-lib dependency.

Secp256k1 bindings are not compiled. Pure JS implementation will be used.

Please make sure that the program is started from "C:\Program Files", not "c:\Program Files" (with capital C).  If it is not, edit the paths on the start icon.  There is one oddity in how node.js works on Windows.

[thedue]

Any idea why this is happening?! Worked before (connected my BTC adress)... using 1.1.1

Please right click and select both "Inspect" and "Inspect background page".  Send me what you see in the Console.

Uncaught Error: More than one instance of bitcore-lib found. Please make sure to require bitcore-lib and check that submodules do not also include their own bitcore-lib dependency.

Secp256k1 bindings are not compiled. Pure JS implementation will be used.

Please make sure that the program is started from "C:\Program Files", not "c:\Program Files" (with capital C).  If it is not, edit the paths on the start icon.  There is one oddity in how node.js works on Windows.

Worked, thank you!

[tonych]

If that is not enough, here are more seditious words: "blackbyte", "bad distribution", "better than iota", "very similar to iota", "actually the same" .

This post reminded me to ask: Was there a peer review of "private untraceable payments"* claim?

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* - taken from the title

I proposed similar idea in bitcoin-dev mailing list and it was discussed there.  One of the responses is from Peter Todd https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-August/012956.html, see others too.

Also there was a technical discussion at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574508 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1298588.0

[cryptohunter]

how to check which BTC address received BB and how much? where is that list?

also i noticed I did not get blackbytes only bytes? how is this possible? is it because I had to update the bb wallet because the old one would not sync?

[SatoNatomato]

People selling now at more than 0.05 price are gonna regret it when bytes are more worth than bitcoin.

Blackbytes with tor is even better than monero and zcash, because byteball scales better.

Also, zcash so anonyme, that we can't know for sure how many coins exist. Zcash has premine (or presale, as you like)
And it very speculative and have weak development (in my opinion).
Monero it's project of Poloniex.

Exactly, I do like zcash, but there is an uneasy feeling about it, mostly from "does it web scale, blockchains havent been shown to web scale" (slight sarcasm). Blockchains just dont, not a single blockchain coin has been shown to process even thousands of tx/s. So even if zcash founders have destroyed their private keys and can not generate and insert new coins into circulation at will... doubt it has a future beyond +10 years, just like bitcoin.

Byteball, with blackbytes and tor, is pure gold. It will evolve and still be in use for at least the next +25 years. Because, it is so damn simple, yet so elegant, fulfills all these "anonymous/private/untraceable transactions with anti-spam" and just works.

[SatoNatomato]

If that is not enough, here are more seditious words: "blackbyte", "bad distribution", "better than iota", "very similar to iota", "actually the same" .

This post reminded me to ask: Was there a peer review of "private untraceable payments"* claim?

---
* - taken from the title

I proposed similar idea in bitcoin-dev mailing list and it was discussed there.  One of the responses is from Peter Todd https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-August/012956.html, see others too.

Also there was a technical discussion at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574508 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1298588.0

So far, at least 1 non-founder-affiliated JavaScript developer (me) has gone through the code looking for obvious major mistakes and found none.

[Come-from-Beyond]

So far, at least 1 non-founder-affiliated JavaScript developer (me) has gone through the code looking for obvious major mistakes and found none.

What is your expertise in this area? Noone questions Todd's one, but yours is unknown.

[SatoNatomato]

So far, at least 1 non-founder-affiliated JavaScript developer (me) has gone through the code looking for obvious major mistakes and found none.

What is your expertise in this area? Noone questions Todd's one, but yours is unknown.

My skill-level in JavaScript and general cryptography is as high as your skills in threatening and stalking me and other people for asking inconvenient questions about your latest scam project after your failed NXT - IOTA. Thats how much expertise. Much wow such exeprtise.

EDIT: LOL. I got enough expertise to have my posts in your dumb IOTA thread being deleted. Just for pointing out technical flaws in your shit coin. Stop fooling people and do something good in your life. Now Ill just /ignore you.

[CryptKeeper]

how to check which BTC address received BB and how much? where is that list?

also i noticed I did not get blackbytes only bytes? how is this possible? is it because I had to update the bb wallet because the old one would not sync?

The stats for round 1 are here: http://transition.byteball.org/firstround.html

Please update to the latest wallet 1.1.1, maybe you still get your Blackbytes. If not, please go to the #helpdesk channel in our slack and we'll have a look at your issue.

[CryptKeeper]

So far, at least 1 non-founder-affiliated JavaScript developer (me) has gone through the code looking for obvious major mistakes and found none.

What is your expertise in this area? Noone questions Todd's one, but yours is unknown.

My skill-level in JavaScript and general cryptography is as high as your skills in threatening and stalking me and other people for asking inconvenient questions about your latest scam project after your failed NXT - IOTA. Thats how much expertise. Much wow such exeprtise.

I've just seen your interesting post on "the other thread". Was it censored or did you delete it yourself?

[Come-from-Beyond]

My skill-level in JavaScript and general cryptography is as high as your skills in threatening and stalking me and other people for asking inconvenient questions about your latest scam project after your failed NXT - IOTA. Thats how much expertise. Much wow such exeprtise.

You keep evading valid questions by distracting from the matter. I'm thinking of changing your neutral trust rating to negative, your behavior raises too many red flags.
PS: My question still stands.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I've just seen your interesting post on "the other thread". Was it censored or did you delete it yourself?

I'm deleting his posts in that thread without reading.

[SatoNatomato]

So far, at least 1 non-founder-affiliated JavaScript developer (me) has gone through the code looking for obvious major mistakes and found none.

What is your expertise in this area? Noone questions Todd's one, but yours is unknown.

My skill-level in JavaScript and general cryptography is as high as your skills in threatening and stalking me and other people for asking inconvenient questions about your latest scam project after your failed NXT - IOTA. Thats how much expertise. Much wow such exeprtise.

I've just seen your interesting post on "the other thread". Was it censored or did you delete it yourself?

No I didnt delete it, but see its gone now.

[johhnyUA]

It's for this reason that it is necessary to save completely the directory of the byteballs, not just seed

Yeah, but you must save it after each transaction lol. It's very hard and here can be some other problems. Like an empty balance

You must not, if you are using multisig:

... private assets, such as blackbytes, are stored only in the wallet (exactly because they are private) and get updated every time you send or receive a private asset.

To secure against loss of the wallet, I recommend that you use multisig.  For example, 1-of-2 multisig with one wallet on the phone, the other on a desktop computer.  This way, the private assets will be automatically copied to the two devices.

Yep, but how does it help with problem of creating new address after transaction? I dont understand for sure.
After any transaction tip will go to new address in your wallet. To denied it you can:
1. Send money again from new address to your main (i didn't test that way)
2. Back up your data wallet.

[lordoliver]

somehow I feel like in the kindergarden...

[Come-from-Beyond]

No I didnt delete it, but see its gone now.

Apparently you haven't seen

Hm, I wanted to make sure you understood what you were talking about. Judging by your reply, you have no clue at all and are just trolling. So I'm banning you from this thread. All further posts will be deleted.

You can continue playing "victim of censorship" card if you want to look stupid, it's your right.

[Come-from-Beyond]

somehow I feel like in the kindergarden...

There is a guy whom I kicked from Waves and Lisk threads, once I kick his sockpuppet from this thread the convo will be looking more mature.

[SatoNatomato]

My skill-level in JavaScript and general cryptography is as high as your skills in threatening and stalking me and other people for asking inconvenient questions about your latest scam project after your failed NXT - IOTA. Thats how much expertise. Much wow such exeprtise.

You keep evading valid questions by distracting from the matter. I'm thinking of changing your neutral trust rating to negative, your behavior raises too many red flags.
PS: My question still stands.

I didnt evade your question, I answered it, yes my expertise is damn high, like so high it raises the roofs and makes babies like you cry. If you think Im gonna post some "proof" to actually doxx myself so you can begin stalking and threatening me in other fora, yeah, that is not gonna happen.

So go ahead and put my trust rating to negative, indeed, do all that you can, but it wont stop the fact that you are an entitled scammer and your latest shit coin IOTA is being outed. Other people like me will find out, Iota can not run on IoT devices, it does not even make sense to waste precious micro-controller CPU cycles on a "ProofOfWork" when it anyway does not prevent Sybil attacks and requires humans to setup connections between nodes.