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May 07, 2014, 11:58:26 AM
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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

Request for a BTC refund instead as they are offering that as an option now.

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May 07, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
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Maybe yes if every day cashed so many money
Maybe yes
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May 07, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

Request for a BTC refund instead as they are offering that as an option now.

BTC refund will not work for our Tax office in UK.
All we want is this transfer started finally how they promised when we pay for the product:

"All Refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund till shipment"

Are we doing something wrong KNC?
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May 07, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
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Finally got my refund today in BTC, you got to call them daily and bug them, I requested refund about a month ago then about a week ago I emailed them a nasty email with threatening to file a complaint with Swedish Officials and demanded refund in BTC or bank wire which was the initial refund, they emailed me and said they would refund in BTC, that was about a week ago, I called them this morning again and went off on them and was told that the refund would happen today in BTC and it did, about $50 less than the original wire amount.

I am glad I got my money back and no more this Pre-Order BS stuff, I think KNC ruined their reputation and would never buy from them again.

 

That's the way to do it!! Good job!!

Works a lot better than posting messages here complaining!!

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May 07, 2014, 12:06:50 PM
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Got my refund too. Today makes it just under a month since the refund request was made for my 2nd (and last unit).

Imho, KNC feels like a house of cards at the moment that will stay up as long as they can get fresh funds $$$ in or mine enough BTC for the refunds. So I took the BTC refund instead of the wire transfer that never went through.

For what it's worth though, thank you the refund (and customer service for the prompt replies) and good luck to those still holding out

Cheers


House of cards?

I want to be that house of cards!!

They mine more BTC in a few weeks than they make selling Neptunes, Frankenjups and controller cards.

Customers to them are like a mosquito buzzing around them during a dinner party.


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May 07, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
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How many days will take for a refund if ask refund at btc?


27 days, 14 hours, 29 minutes and 18 seconds.

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May 07, 2014, 12:09:15 PM
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These a lot of days be far
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May 07, 2014, 12:17:09 PM
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These a lot of days be far

INDEED   Grin

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May 07, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
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How many days will take for a refund if ask refund at btc?


27 days, 14 hours, 29 minutes and 18 seconds.

Didn't you miscalculate? Shouldn't it be 38 seconds?
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May 07, 2014, 01:02:33 PM
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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

You should ask refund in BTC, forget about bank wire and call them daily.
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May 07, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
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Got my refund too. Today makes it just under a month since the refund request was made for my 2nd (and last unit).

Imho, KNC feels like a house of cards at the moment that will stay up as long as they can get fresh funds $$$ in or mine enough BTC for the refunds. So I took the BTC refund instead of the wire transfer that never went through.

For what it's worth though, thank you the refund (and customer service for the prompt replies) and good luck to those still holding out

Cheers


House of cards?

I want to be that house of cards!!

They mine more BTC in a few weeks than they make selling Neptunes, Frankenjups and controller cards.

Customers to them are like a mosquito buzzing around them during a dinner party.



well the fankenjupiters were genius on their part ...assuming they would have shipped them correctly and they would have actually worked that is...now not so much...but if they HAD gotten them out with out wreaking them and with clear instructions and not junk cases etc....no one would have complained much they were used...

by doing so...giving a no refund option on 400 Neptunes to that antsy types likely to 'refund' and giving them used equip....and imho then taking their neptune orders and eventually rotating them back to the knc farm or for re sale it would have killed

400 neptunes x 10,200.00 assuming CA prices...means they would save $4080000.00 usd (their 400 frankenjupiter numbers)

now that it wall went to sh*t with shipping issues lousey setup etc..they are sticking with it...so RMA tag shall ensue ...I mean
they can RMA broken boards back and forth used etc till 'eventually' you MAY get a complete 3TH unit ..but no refund sorry

imho the idea was killer from an 'evil genius' point of view...but the implementation fell through....much like BFL the schemes are genius..the actual execution can't fly

meanwhile back at the giant PH farm they have added another top row of shelves and miners....

sigh

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May 07, 2014, 01:28:45 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen
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May 07, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Well  a 10,200 buck Neptune order is not looking too good now you can get 3 1.5th units (they state elsewhere 1.5th)
for the price of a Neptune 3th by may 16th (group buy less then 100 only price) of 3,200 usd free shipping...so that is
9,600 usd for 4.5th potential in stock now

again shipping starts on the instock units MAY 16th I think the units are 1,250 watts each

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598502.0

in stock units

that is 4.5th (+10%/-10%)

there may be a reason the refunds have stalled huh?

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May 07, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Well  a 10,200 buck Neptune order is not looking too good now you can get 3 1.5th units (they state elsewhere 1.5th)
for the price of a Neptune 3th by may 16th (group buy less then 100 only price) of

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598502.0

in stock units

that is 4.5th (+10%/-10%)

there may be a reason the refunds have stalled huh?

Searing


On the phone, they tell me that they can't look where in the payment queue I am. However, in the KnC-forum, "Kurt" writes:

"BTC refunds will not be sent instantly, there are procedures that we must follow before we issue refunds, there are also many other customers before you in the queue. The delay will be a matter of days, compared to weeks like the delays with bank transfer."

So how does he know where in the queue I am when he can't check the queue?

Also funny: In the past, KnC mined with Eligius with the address 1A73ExsM2doRwTLp82rv5U36QHbBFmHD1X. Today, it seems they are mining 140'000 US$ a day.

Bitcoins for about 9 million US$ were transferred during the last days to another wallet which seems to be from KnC, too. From this wallet, lots of payments were made, some of them in amounts which look "familiar", i.e. it seems that they are paying their "customers" - at least with parts of these Bitcoins.

If this is so, then their problem could be that they are not producing Bitcoins as fast as they have to get them back to former clients, i.e. they not only seem to have a cash-problem, but also a Bitcoin-problem.

But as you see: I'm a newbie, and maybe, I am totally wrong.

So there are just my 2 Satoshi...
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May 07, 2014, 01:59:27 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Well  a 10,200 buck Neptune order is not looking too good now you can get 3 1.5th units (they state elsewhere 1.5th)
for the price of a Neptune 3th by may 16th (group buy less then 100 only price) of

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598502.0

in stock units

that is 4.5th (+10%/-10%)

there may be a reason the refunds have stalled huh?

Searing




On the phone, they tell me that they can't look where in the payment queue I am. However, in the KnC-forum, "Kurt" writes:

"BTC refunds will not be sent instantly, there are procedures that we must follow before we issue refunds, there are also many other customers before you in the queue. The delay will be a matter of days, compared to weeks like the delays with bank transfer."

So how does he know where in the queue I am when he can't check the queue?

Also funny: In the past, KnC mined with Eligius with the address 1A73ExsM2doRwTLp82rv5U36QHbBFmHD1X. Today, it seems they are mining 140'000 US$ a day.

Bitcoins for about 9 million US$ were transferred during the last days to another wallet which seems to be from KnC, too. From this wallet, lots of payments were made, some of them in amounts which look "familiar", i.e. it seems that they are paying their "customers" - at least with parts of these Bitcoins.

If this is so, then their problem could be that they are not producing Bitcoins as fast as they have to get them back to former clients, i.e. they not only seem to have a cash-problem, but also a Bitcoin-problem.

But as you see: I'm a newbie, and maybe, I am totally wrong.

So there are just my 2 Satoshi...

All these people/companies have multiple wallets and addresses , and switch pools like crazy.  Is it wonder the "dark pool" is so large.
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May 07, 2014, 02:13:29 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?
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May 07, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Well  a 10,200 buck Neptune order is not looking too good now you can get 3 1.5th units (they state elsewhere 1.5th)
for the price of a Neptune 3th by may 16th (group buy less then 100 only price) of 3,200 usd free shipping...so that is
9,600 usd for 4.5th potential in stock now

again shipping starts on the instock units MAY 16th I think the units are 1,250 watts each

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598502.0

in stock units

that is 4.5th (+10%/-10%)

there may be a reason the refunds have stalled huh?

Searing


....because KfC are greedy bastards
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May 07, 2014, 02:44:28 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

ImI, a lot of people said there was thermal paste smeared on the chips and it looked like someone tried to clean it off.
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May 07, 2014, 02:55:04 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Well  a 10,200 buck Neptune order is not looking too good now you can get 3 1.5th units (they state elsewhere 1.5th)
for the price of a Neptune 3th by may 16th (group buy less then 100 only price) of 3,200 usd free shipping...so that is
9,600 usd for 4.5th potential in stock now

again shipping starts on the instock units MAY 16th I think the units are 1,250 watts each

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598502.0

in stock units

that is 4.5th (+10%/-10%)

there may be a reason the refunds have stalled huh?

Searing


I don't care about any other machines (they are all unprofitable anyway at BTC $440), I just want my money back (BTC, wire, whatever).
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May 07, 2014, 03:17:27 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

Here you can see through the bubble wrap packaging that the coolers have old thermal paste, showing they are old and used
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