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January 25, 2018, 04:12:52 PM

Bitcoin, with almost a decade track record, proven security model and a 180B market cap gets a C+

Doge, which is, was and always will be a JOKE, abandoned by its creator who just rolls his eyes gets a C

Cardano gets a B AND ALL IT IS IS A WHITE PAPER


that's all I need to know about this farce


I have no way of proving it but I guarantee Cardano paid for that rating. It sticks out like dog balls.

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Weiss Research maintained internal performance records which noted every trade Weiss Research recommended and the hypothetical profit or loss an investor would have experienced if he or she had followed Weiss Research’s recommendations. Weiss Research did not make these performance records available to subscribers or potential subscribers. These performance records demonstrate that, during the relevant time period, subscribers to most of Weiss Research’s premium services, who followed Weiss Research’s recommendations without deviation, would have lost money. Subscribers to the few profitable services would have realized overall gains that were well below the profits from individual trades represented in Weiss Research’s advertisements.

https://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2006/ia-2525.pdf


cardanoz is changing the world as we know it!  Roll Eyes  lol
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Same kind of reasoning could have been applied to bitcoin at the start.  Not that I have an opinion about this or that altcoin, just pointing out the hole in your rationale.

What hole tho? The impetus for creating Bitcoin against the other existing forms of payment/banking systems was clear.

How about the delusional hole in rationale that says once we have a single crypto payment system that is secure, decentralized, functional, and popular (w/ users, brokers, exchanges, and merchants), that we need another one? Or a thousand more? Ten thousand more?
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January 25, 2018, 04:44:20 PM

The bitcoin price 1!!1!
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January 25, 2018, 04:47:36 PM
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So...can we see some charts of triangles forming and where the convergence point is?

This is the only chart formation that I understand. Unfortunately it just tells me that on a certain date the price will either go up or down.
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January 25, 2018, 04:53:05 PM

The bitcoin price 1!!1!

Fiddy don't dumping today? it's funny to me the china govt afraid of an American rapstars big baller money :-D weee

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January 25, 2018, 04:57:10 PM
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there aren't even any charts on twitter
still, someone spilled paint all over a woman called Katy Perry's hands
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Are we slowly returning to the moon? Grin

Merit ???what is this Roll Eyes



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Now explaine EV properly So everybody knows that When you invest in bitcoin the EV % of returns is Just to big for not investing in it  ....


Is there an exchange platform for the Pair WO_Merit/BTC ?

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Thanks, contrarian indicator confirmed. Please tell all your buddies to short with max leverage.  Wink
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merited by Last of the V8s - haha
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Price drop was because the lunar festival check the graphs here: 2015 https://i.imgur.com/BrwD1wp.jpg , 2016 https://imgur.com/FKvJtmI , 2017 https://imgur.com/QVJkDoc . More info here: https://bitcoinvest.cc

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January 25, 2018, 05:45:12 PM
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I am calling for a nice little spike within 36 hours.

Remember: NO LUBE !

EDIT: Meh. Pulled my sell wall @ $12.5k, for... reasons.
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January 25, 2018, 05:52:14 PM
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CME first contract closes tommorow, so no doubt the tin-foil hat brigade will be out again.

I'll pre-empt them.... Smiley

Any large volumes over the next 24 hours can be attributed to Wall Street maniulating the price to profit from this contract closing.
I think we can expect a reversal of this movement once the contract has closed.

"Trading terminates at 4:00 p.m. London time on the last Friday of the contract month"

Strap-in or damp squib?   I dunno.
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January 25, 2018, 05:55:43 PM
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The chart title does not reflect the intention. It's not a for a short.
Its 8.5k not 8-5k as in the  url:
I understand we might form support here and lift off.
Im holding since 9k.
Have buy orders all the way down, in case it heads that direction.

I do have very few 500$ coins from 2013. My original a/c in my sig. was hacked.

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CME first contract closes tommorow, so no doubt the tin-foil hat brigade will be out again.

I'll pre-empt them.... Smiley

Any large volumes over the next 24 hours can be attributed to Wall Street maniulating the price to profit from this contract closing.
I think we can expect a reversal of this movement once the contract has closed.

"Trading terminates at 4:00 p.m. London time on the last Friday of the contract month"

Strap-in or damp squib?   I dunno.

How much money has been thrown at the CME first contract? If it's a massive amount the contract closing could = strap-in. If it's a small amount the contract closing could = damp squib.
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January 25, 2018, 06:31:53 PM
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Serious question. I'm trying to understand the delusions and fallacies associated with the altcoin market. So far I'm still not getting it.

Or if you just consider it a "buy" because you think it's going to get pumped one day, then just say so. Penny stocks see their day in the sun sometimes too.

Most altcoins are just pump-and-dump schemes. But there are a few ones that are really trying to do novel things: see for instance Zcash and Monero (anonymous transactions), or Cardano and Ethereum (Turing complete smart contracts and PoS). Bitcoin is not trying to do those things, and I personally believe that's great (Unix philosophy), but there is no reason why others shouldn't try to develop solutions for a different set of problems.

My last Bitcoin transaction cost me a bit less than 2 USD (at that time) and took more than 7 hours for the first confirm. It was not as bad as those "$25 dollars txs" that so many people were complaining about, but it was not that good either... In contrast, Litecoin transactions cost a few cents and you get the first confirm in a couple of minutes. This is not to say that Litecoin is a better long term investment than Bitcoin, but if one had to pay for anything during a mempool crisis, Litecoin would be a better choice economically and practically speaking. So maybe part of the LTC rally we saw last year was simply due to this.

I believe once SegWit and LN finally get implemented and deployed everywhere, things will improve and maybe even be like in the "old" days for a few years at least. Not everyone shares this optimistic vision, but even if you do, you have to understand that if Bitcoin is extremely successful (i.e. massive global adoption) then tx volume will keep growing indefinitely, and of course fees will follow, meaning that on-chain txs won't be super common for ordinary people. We may see then a zoo of altcoins (in the same way today we have a zoo of gift cards, credit cards and state currencies) being used for different purposes and being traded using cross-chain atomic swaps.
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January 25, 2018, 06:43:10 PM

The triangle closes around the 28th. I predict it drops down within this long term trend line.

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January 25, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
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Want to really see that DAG under stress.

Actually, I would like to see:
* basic wallet functionality like generating a random wallet address
* transactions always confirming
* fool proof solution to avoid address reuse (=vulnerable under IOTA system)

Before that happens, I do not consider it a buy until below $0.50.

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The real question is why would you consider it a "buy" at all? Does it feel good to have a slick hypothetically functioning payment system that mimics Bitcoin, but no one ever uses to buy things with because there is zero merchant adoption?

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I don’t think Bitcoin is established (yet) as the sole cryptocurrency of choice for everyone on planet Earth. Adaption in genuine use cases is a non-existent feature for now, also for Bitcoin. Frankly, I do not think that Bitcoin will ever take the position as one and only cryptocurrency and that we will remain forever to have a variety of coins (including FIAT brothers) with their own fans. Yes, I expect Dogecoin to be still there after 10 years, whether (micro)pennystock or not (just like Tittycoin or other shitcoin). It does not matter.

For now, the race for leadership is still fully on with Bitcoin having a lead but that’s not carved in stone. It is not said that this will be the case forever. In a use case whereby ‘no fees’ micro transactions are vital, IOTA would clearly have a lead over most other cryptocurrencies, assuming they can get their clusterf* of a wallet and network stability up to standards.

Besides that, having various altcoins around with new variations and technologies popping up all the time is vital for the survival of this digital phenomenon. Adapt continuously or die. So I welcome altcoins instead of loathing them.

TL;DR: Bitcoin still reigns, but it will not be forever. I see a purpose and place for various altcoins.
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SEC Statement - surprisingly supportive of crypto. 

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Distributed ledger technology, or DLT, is the advancement that underpins an array of new financial products, including cryptocurrencies and digital payment services. Many have identified DLT as the next great driver of economic efficiency. Some have even compared it to productivity-driving innovations such as the steam engine and personal computer.

Our task, as market regulators, is to set and enforce rules that foster innovation while promoting market integrity and confidence. In recent months, we have seen a wide range of market participants, including retail investors, seeking to invest in DLT initiatives, including through cryptocurrencies and so-called ICOs—initial coin offerings. Experience tells us that while some market participants may make fortunes, the risks to all investors are high. Caution is merited.

A key issue before market regulators is whether our historic approach to the regulation of currency transactions is appropriate for the cryptocurrency markets. Check-cashing and money-transmission services that operate in the U.S. are primarily state-regulated. Many of the internet-based cryptocurrency trading platforms have registered as payment services and are not subject to direct oversight by the SEC or the CFTC. We would support policy efforts to revisit these frameworks and ensure they are effective and efficient for the digital era.

The CFTC and SEC, along with other federal and state regulators and criminal authorities, will continue to work together to bring transparency and integrity to these markets and, importantly, to deter and prosecute fraud and abuse. These markets are new, evolving and international. As such they require us to be nimble and forward-looking; coordinated with our state, federal and international colleagues; and engaged with important stakeholders, including Congress.

http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7680-18
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