Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware

[eroxors]

I went down to Steamboats office & helped assemble heatsinks on 25 units,my brother met me there & he did 25.My brother also went by last week & put some together too.

It takes awhile & Steamboat has all 16 chips working  

Maybe I can get back there & do some more later this week  

Steamboat is working on the USB update solution & firmware tweaks as of now,very soon,he'll be shipping  

He's working his ass off guy's,believe it  

What are the error rates? Is he shipping order by order or waiting until they are all done?

ATM,error rates are kinda high,like 20% I think he said,I may have misunderstood.I'm a hardware guy    Software confuses me  

First in first out for shipping   He's waiting to get those few things finished,no idea how long it'll take.He is busting his chops to get these out ASAP though  

Without BKKcoins,hes got this far.He does have help,so he is not on his own completely 

So nothing new regarding error rates. Are all two batches of chips completely assembled or only the purchased boards? Thanks for helping. How is testing progressing? I don't think many would mind having to connect the heatsink on their own if it would save time.

[Unacceptable]

I went down to Steamboats office & helped assemble heatsinks on 25 units,my brother met me there & he did 25.My brother also went by last week & put some together too.

It takes awhile & Steamboat has all 16 chips working  

Maybe I can get back there & do some more later this week  

Steamboat is working on the USB update solution & firmware tweaks as of now,very soon,he'll be shipping  

He's working his ass off guy's,believe it  

What are the error rates? Is he shipping order by order or waiting until they are all done?

ATM,error rates are kinda high,like 20% I think he said,I may have misunderstood.I'm a hardware guy    Software confuses me  

First in first out for shipping   He's waiting to get those few things finished,no idea how long it'll take.He is busting his chops to get these out ASAP though  

Without BKKcoins,hes got this far.He does have help,so he is not on his own completely 

So nothing new regarding error rates. Are all two batches of chips completely assembled or only the purchased boards? Thanks for helping. How is testing progressing? I don't think many would mind having to connect the heatsink on their own if it would save time.

Gotta have the heatsinks on to load the firmware & test the unit,so its gotta be done before shipping.................Not sure about how many batches are in & I didn't ask about board amount either.Just trying to help get these ready for firmware when its time.

The actual flashing is pretty damn quick  So the more that are ready when the time comes,the quicker the testing & flashing will be....oh & the shipping 

[cp1]

Nice job.  Hopefully Steamboat can sell assembly to others who have just chips, so that we can get an assembly refund.

[eroxors]

I went down to Steamboats office & helped assemble heatsinks on 25 units,my brother met me there & he did 25.My brother also went by last week & put some together too.

It takes awhile & Steamboat has all 16 chips working  

Maybe I can get back there & do some more later this week  

Steamboat is working on the USB update solution & firmware tweaks as of now,very soon,he'll be shipping  

He's working his ass off guy's,believe it  

What are the error rates? Is he shipping order by order or waiting until they are all done?

ATM,error rates are kinda high,like 20% I think he said,I may have misunderstood.I'm a hardware guy    Software confuses me  

First in first out for shipping   He's waiting to get those few things finished,no idea how long it'll take.He is busting his chops to get these out ASAP though  

Without BKKcoins,hes got this far.He does have help,so he is not on his own completely 

So nothing new regarding error rates. Are all two batches of chips completely assembled or only the purchased boards? Thanks for helping. How is testing progressing? I don't think many would mind having to connect the heatsink on their own if it would save time.

Gotta have the heatsinks on to load the firmware & test the unit,so its gotta be done before shipping.................Not sure about how many batches are in & I didn't ask about board amount either.Just trying to help get these ready for firmware when its time.

The actual flashing is pretty damn quick  So the more that are ready when the time comes,the quicker the testing & flashing will be....oh & the shipping 

Well, 50 units @ 16 chips each is 800 chips... 4% of the 20k. So, nice work. How many boards do you have personally ordered?

[slightboyme]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

[eroxors]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

I submitted 9/18.. I don't think anyone after the 16th or so is getting a refund. Look for your miners/chips in the mail in the next couple weeks.

[slightboyme]

I dont think i ever saw an email/post about a cutoff date by steamboat. Do we have an official answer from steamboat that says no refund after 9/16? Sent steamboat an email a couple days ago, no reply yet.

[Duetschpire]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

I've submitted a refund on the 18th, but couldn't sign as my PC which had my walled was down. Got an email  from SB asking me to sign it. Found a wallet.dat backup after few days of searching (wallet had 0 coins that's why I didn't care about it). Sent a refund request again on the 23rd and replied to SB's email confirming that I've submitted a signed refund. Never heard back...

No Coins, no reply email, no chips and no shipping email.

I have a mate who submitted a correct refund on the 17th of September and he's on the same boat as me. I think this refund is more like a lotto ticket, those who were lucky enough got a refund, but people like us will be receiving a pretty expensive paper weight.

Looking at SB's post below, we were all under the impression that THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR REQUESTING A REFUND, so not sure how in hell SB decided that post 16th of Sep orders are not eligible.

Update:
   
We have confirmed with Yifu directly the eligibility of all batches ordered for a refund, to be processed when requested. Additionally, there is no deadline for requesting a refund. As such, we have begun processing all requests for refunds of orders placed with us, which will be submitted to Yifu upon each batch being requested in full.

[rocks]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

I've submitted a refund on the 18th, but couldn't sign as my PC which had my walled was down. Got an email  from SB asking me to sign it. Found a wallet.dat backup after few days of searching (wallet had 0 coins that's why I didn't care about it). Sent a refund request again on the 23rd and replied to SB's email confirming that I've submitted a signed refund. Never heard back...

No Coins, no reply email, no chips and no shipping email.

I have a mate who submitted a correct refund on the 17th of September and he's on the same boat as me. I think this refund is more like a lotto ticket, those who were lucky enough got a refund, but people like us will be receiving a pretty expensive paper weight.

Looking at SB's post below, we were all under the impression that THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR REQUESTING A REFUND, so not sure how in hell SB decided that post 16th of Sep orders are not eligible.

Update:
   
We have confirmed with Yifu directly the eligibility of all batches ordered for a refund, to be processed when requested. Additionally, there is no deadline for requesting a refund. As such, we have begun processing all requests for refunds of orders placed with us, which will be submitted to Yifu upon each batch being requested in full.

The deadline was before YiFu finally shipped chips. Once Yifu received a batch and shipped that batch, that batch was no longer eligible for refunds. Given how late thing were Yifu should have just canceled and refunded all batch orders. But he is the type of guy that would rather ship very late and unprofitable product than make things right with people.

[Duetschpire]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

I've submitted a refund on the 18th, but couldn't sign as my PC which had my walled was down. Got an email  from SB asking me to sign it. Found a wallet.dat backup after few days of searching (wallet had 0 coins that's why I didn't care about it). Sent a refund request again on the 23rd and replied to SB's email confirming that I've submitted a signed refund. Never heard back...

No Coins, no reply email, no chips and no shipping email.

I have a mate who submitted a correct refund on the 17th of September and he's on the same boat as me. I think this refund is more like a lotto ticket, those who were lucky enough got a refund, but people like us will be receiving a pretty expensive paper weight.

Looking at SB's post below, we were all under the impression that THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR REQUESTING A REFUND, so not sure how in hell SB decided that post 16th of Sep orders are not eligible.

Update:
   
We have confirmed with Yifu directly the eligibility of all batches ordered for a refund, to be processed when requested. Additionally, there is no deadline for requesting a refund. As such, we have begun processing all requests for refunds of orders placed with us, which will be submitted to Yifu upon each batch being requested in full.

The deadline was before YiFu finally shipped chips. Once Yifu received a batch and shipped that batch, that batch was no longer eligible for refunds. Given how late thing were Yifu should have just canceled and refunded all batch orders. But he is the type of guy that would rather ship very late and unprofitable product than make things right with people.

Regardless, those who requested a refund before SB sent the email about chips being shipped should get their funds back. I don't believe that Yifu shipped the chips on the 17th of Sep  yet we only knew about it on the 3rd of Oct.. Doesn't make sense as if I was SB, I'd want people to know about it within the second

[Unacceptable]

I went down to Steamboats office & helped assemble heatsinks on 25 units,my brother met me there & he did 25.My brother also went by last week & put some together too.

It takes awhile & Steamboat has all 16 chips working  

Maybe I can get back there & do some more later this week  

Steamboat is working on the USB update solution & firmware tweaks as of now,very soon,he'll be shipping  

He's working his ass off guy's,believe it  

What are the error rates? Is he shipping order by order or waiting until they are all done?

ATM,error rates are kinda high,like 20% I think he said,I may have misunderstood.I'm a hardware guy    Software confuses me  

First in first out for shipping   He's waiting to get those few things finished,no idea how long it'll take.He is busting his chops to get these out ASAP though  

Without BKKcoins,hes got this far.He does have help,so he is not on his own completely 

So nothing new regarding error rates. Are all two batches of chips completely assembled or only the purchased boards? Thanks for helping. How is testing progressing? I don't think many would mind having to connect the heatsink on their own if it would save time.

Gotta have the heatsinks on to load the firmware & test the unit,so its gotta be done before shipping.................Not sure about how many batches are in & I didn't ask about board amount either.Just trying to help get these ready for firmware when its time.

The actual flashing is pretty damn quick  So the more that are ready when the time comes,the quicker the testing & flashing will be....oh & the shipping 

Well, 50 units @ 16 chips each is 800 chips... 4% of the 20k. So, nice work. How many boards do you have personally ordered?

I ordered 6 boards & my bro ordered 15.I hope he gets that firmware/USB thing done ASAP 

[Unacceptable]

Far as I know,when Avalon shipped anything,the last anyone would know is the tracking #.The stuff just arrives out of nowhere................................

[Duetschpire]

Far as I know,when Avalon shipped anything,the last anyone would know is the tracking #.The stuff just arrives out of nowhere................................

What I don't get is who in their right mind would want chips in 3-4 weeks from now? even on free electricity, you'd be waiting years before ROI. Plus, we know that Avalon and Yifu are dicks, but for SB to say

Chip refunds:
Those who have submitted a refund request which cannot be fulfilled will be contacted shortly regarding their order.

and never send an email is a bit ridiculous too as there are 10s of people waiting for there funds and checking their wallets every day hoping a payment would come in at some point.

I'm not sure how/who figured out that there will be no refunds for post 16th of Sep orders, but I'm sure we'd all love an official response in that regard.

[KS]

I'm "officially" the cutoff customer, as per SB's email. The "official" refund request is "16/09" (between " " because I *think* I submitted it before, but hey, I might be wrong).

I got an email yesterday saying I would get a refund for 450 chips (I ordered 904) and saying assembly is starting - but I also have 54 miners, fully assembled + hosting, paid for and still no news regarding the amount of the refund for those.

If anyone is interested, PM me with a reasonable offer. I'm looking at min 1BTC per miner, chips for free.

[eroxors]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

I've submitted a refund on the 18th, but couldn't sign as my PC which had my walled was down. Got an email  from SB asking me to sign it. Found a wallet.dat backup after few days of searching (wallet had 0 coins that's why I didn't care about it). Sent a refund request again on the 23rd and replied to SB's email confirming that I've submitted a signed refund. Never heard back...

No Coins, no reply email, no chips and no shipping email.

I have a mate who submitted a correct refund on the 17th of September and he's on the same boat as me. I think this refund is more like a lotto ticket, those who were lucky enough got a refund, but people like us will be receiving a pretty expensive paper weight.

Looking at SB's post below, we were all under the impression that THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR REQUESTING A REFUND, so not sure how in hell SB decided that post 16th of Sep orders are not eligible.

Update:
   
We have confirmed with Yifu directly the eligibility of all batches ordered for a refund, to be processed when requested. Additionally, there is no deadline for requesting a refund. As such, we have begun processing all requests for refunds of orders placed with us, which will be submitted to Yifu upon each batch being requested in full.

The deadline was before YiFu finally shipped chips. Once Yifu received a batch and shipped that batch, that batch was no longer eligible for refunds. Given how late thing were Yifu should have just canceled and refunded all batch orders. But he is the type of guy that would rather ship very late and unprofitable product than make things right with people.

The thing is... we had no idea when or if the chips would ship and how many chip buyers had requested refunds. Unless we hear otherwise from SB, KS is the cutoff and he refunded on the 16th. SB said all refunds would be processed last week, so if you don't have coins in your wallet, you'll probably be getting miners.

SB, whenever you update, it would be nice to know when the chips actually arrived and if Yifu was honest about when he shipped them.

[bystander]

I went down to Steamboats office & helped assemble heatsinks on 25 units,my brother met me there & he did 25.My brother also went by last week & put some together too.

It takes awhile & Steamboat has all 16 chips working  

Maybe I can get back there & do some more later this week  

Steamboat is working on the USB update solution & firmware tweaks as of now,very soon,he'll be shipping  

He's working his ass off guy's,believe it  

Thanks for the update! Glad to hear that things are moving along.

[ScaryHash]

So far, this is apparently the only working version of the Klondike that's actually working.

Of course, there is always tweaking to be done, but I've always known that Steamboat will come through.

As for why would anybody in their right mind would want these miners, the answer is quite easy.

They're already paid for, and are more likely to be in my hand than any other miner anytime soon, short of buying BFL or other crap on E-bay. I want to see them hashing, end of story. I don't give a rat's behind about ROI, or difficulty rate, or anything else. Once I see that hashrate working and going up, anything else is irrelevant. It's a drug, I admit it.

There is so much late shipping stuff or soon (tm) crap out there, and I frankly don't trust anything anymore. At least I know that Steamboat is getting his stuff together.

[ionstorm]

Would love to see some asics shipping porn soon :-)

[nightengale]

Would love an update from SB with details on assembly, testing, hosting refunds. Hundreds of dollars tied up there that we're being stonewalled on. 

[KS]

Still no refund. Submitted 9/16. Anyone has the same situation?

I've submitted a refund on the 18th, but couldn't sign as my PC which had my walled was down. Got an email  from SB asking me to sign it. Found a wallet.dat backup after few days of searching (wallet had 0 coins that's why I didn't care about it). Sent a refund request again on the 23rd and replied to SB's email confirming that I've submitted a signed refund. Never heard back...

No Coins, no reply email, no chips and no shipping email.

I have a mate who submitted a correct refund on the 17th of September and he's on the same boat as me. I think this refund is more like a lotto ticket, those who were lucky enough got a refund, but people like us will be receiving a pretty expensive paper weight.

Looking at SB's post below, we were all under the impression that THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR REQUESTING A REFUND, so not sure how in hell SB decided that post 16th of Sep orders are not eligible.

Update:
   
We have confirmed with Yifu directly the eligibility of all batches ordered for a refund, to be processed when requested. Additionally, there is no deadline for requesting a refund. As such, we have begun processing all requests for refunds of orders placed with us, which will be submitted to Yifu upon each batch being requested in full.

The deadline was before YiFu finally shipped chips. Once Yifu received a batch and shipped that batch, that batch was no longer eligible for refunds. Given how late thing were Yifu should have just canceled and refunded all batch orders. But he is the type of guy that would rather ship very late and unprofitable product than make things right with people.

The thing is... we had no idea when or if the chips would ship and how many chip buyers had requested refunds. Unless we hear otherwise from SB, KS is the cutoff and he refunded on the 16th. SB said all refunds would be processed last week, so if you don't have coins in your wallet, you'll probably be getting miners.

SB, whenever you update, it would be nice to know when the chips actually arrived and if Yifu was honest about when he shipped them.

No coin, no miner here.