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January 09, 2014, 02:25:50 PM
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Seems Slush has a great mess at the moment. As far as I know every issue was corrected in the past. Don't know how long it takes.

It wouldn't be that worse if they would come out with some information about the problem and an explanation what they are doing.
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January 09, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
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Hi. Can you explain what is happening? Hardware works perfect and shares are collecting with a profit of 0,0025 BTC from one round. There are no errors too. But there is one problem. Once the round is finished, the statistics shows different information. It does not match any real statistics. There is written "shares (none)" and "your BTC reward (none)". What happened with the income? That way went rounds 21408 and 21389. And more, everytime i see that the number of such problems are increasing.

21408 +1

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# Block gefunden Dauer Gesamtanzahl Shares Your shares Deine BTC-Vergütung Block # Block value Gültigkeit
21409 2014-01-09 14:13:42 1:41:20 874452642 65664 0.00172782 279496 25.15484964 97 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21408 2014-01-09 12:32:22 4:22:33 2241595323 none none 279487 25.20279536 88 Bestätigungen ausstehend


21408    2014-01-09 12:32:22    4:22:33    2241595323    none    none    279487    25.20279536    86 confirmations left

UGH Slush... Now even the database connection on the ticketing server is down! 

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Uncaught Exception
Replace Query:  in ./__swift/library/Database/class.SWIFT_Database.php:1059
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#0 ./__swift/models/Session/class.SWIFT_Session.php(559): SWIFT_Database->Replace('swsessions', Array, Array)
#1 ./__swift/models/Session/class.SWIFT_Session.php(588): SWIFT_Session::Insert(40, 0)
#2 ./__swift/library/Controllers/class.Controller_client.php(58): SWIFT_Session::InsertAndStart(0)
#3 ./__apps/knowledgebase/client/class.Controller_List.php(33): Controller_client->__construct()
#4 ./__swift/library/MVC/class.SWIFT_Controller.php(331): Controller_List->__construct()
#5 ./__swift/library/App/class.SWIFT_App.php(176): SWIFT_Controller::Load(Object(SWIFT_Interface), Object(SWIFT_App), Object(SWIFT_Router), false)
#6 ./__swift/library/class.SWIFT.php(16): SWIFT_App->ExecuteController(Object(SWIFT_Router))
#7 ./__swift/library/class.SWIFT.php(16): SWIFT->Initialize()
#8 ./__swift/swift.php(16): SWIFT::GetInstance()
#9 ./index.php(28): require_once('/var/www/html/s...')
#10 {main}
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January 09, 2014, 03:46:44 PM
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these NONE really piss off my Average hashrate...

AND..... I know Slush wont fix this just like he didnt fix the last 4!!!!

with it occurring this often u would think they would get fixed within minutes of me complaining about it!
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January 09, 2014, 03:55:55 PM
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I reported block ID 21408 showing as none, none.  This time I actually received an automated response from the support system so maybe fixes are in the works.  I didn't receive any automated responses on the last two blocks that were initially showing none, none.  I take this as progress.

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January 09, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
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I reported block ID 21408 showing as none, none.
Same here.

And again with # 21410 block height 279517
21410 is fixed, still none for 21408
Fixed!
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January 09, 2014, 04:47:27 PM
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I have also none from block 21408. Also an unanswered ticket already one week. He is not responding at all.

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January 09, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
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I have also none from block 21408. Also an unanswered ticket already one week. He is not responding at all.

there really is no reason to respond.
 He knows.
 He will fix it.
 He is Slush.
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January 09, 2014, 05:12:14 PM
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there really is no reason to respond.
 He knows.
 He will fix it.
 He is Slush.
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January 09, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
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I have also none from block 21408. Also an unanswered ticket already one week. He is not responding at all.

there really is no reason to respond.
 He knows.
 He will fix it.
 He is Slush.

Is that so? Why do i have mined 700k shares in a block and received nothing for it already more then a week ago?

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January 09, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
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Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

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January 09, 2014, 05:37:28 PM
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Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

However, I was comaring indeed. I saw by my self when the round was over. Which means, that statistics about the round show wrong information.
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January 09, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
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Code:
21410 2014-01-09 16:42:19 2:28:37 1289444440 681363 0.01226382 279517 25.03871979 88 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21409 2014-01-09 14:13:42 1:41:20 874452642    368165 0.01272845 279496 25.15484964 67 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21408 2014-01-09 12:32:22 4:22:33 2241595323    none none                 279487 25.20279536 58 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21407 2014-01-09 08:09:49 3:07:47 1593939640    45999 0.00720622 279451 25.05046229 22 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21406 2014-01-09 05:02:02 0:01:14 9793209     none none         279423 25.00811000 bestätigt
21405 2014-01-09 05:00:48 1:40:44 857271444      none none                 279422 25.09846867 bestätigt

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January 09, 2014, 06:20:42 PM
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I have received a few of the none rewards like everyone else, I know for a fact that my equipment is working 24/7. As far as I can tell these issues have always been sorted by Slush within a day or two.
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January 09, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
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Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

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January 09, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
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Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

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January 09, 2014, 06:32:05 PM
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Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.
Not true because your reward drops much faster if you stop mining. This is to prevent pool-hoping but I think it's working real good in operator's favor. I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.

Which also makes Slush useless for backup pool because if my pool goes down and my equipment switches to Slush for a bit, I will likely not finish a round before my main pool comes back online and miners switch back. So essentially mining for pool owner's new sports car.

The more I read this thread and lack of responsibility from Slush the more I hate Slush. Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.

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January 09, 2014, 06:43:57 PM
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I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.
Not true, because 'the block reward + fees - poll fee' is divided based on each miners score compared to the total score. The only reward that Slush gets is the pool fee.

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This is true. Slush aims at full time miners using other pools as backups, not the opposite.

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Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.
Theft - No.
Loyalty - Yes
Blind - No. Slush have proved to be scrupulous in the last 2+ years (since I am mining here). A bit slower in fixing things lately, but always fixing them right.

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January 09, 2014, 06:46:14 PM
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Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.
Not true because your reward drops much faster if you stop mining. This is to prevent pool-hoping but I think it's working real good in operator's favor. I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.

Which also makes Slush useless for backup pool because if my pool goes down and my equipment switches to Slush for a bit, I will likely not finish a round before my main pool comes back online and miners switch back. So essentially mining for pool owner's new sports car.

The more I read this thread and lack of responsibility from Slush the more I hate Slush. Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.
Everything you wrote other than the first sentence is wrong. The entire payout (minus fees) is distributed to miners. The score for each miner is calculated, and then the reward is split.

The expected value of hashing on Slush's pool for 5 minutes twice a day for two weeks is exactly the same as hashing there for 140 minutes consecutively. The variance will be higher, but it's just as possible to catch the end of a block and earn way more than PPS for that 5 minutes of work as it is to not hit any and have low rewards.
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January 09, 2014, 08:11:12 PM
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Are some blocks still not being counted? I had one that was 6-7 rounds ago listed as "NONE" for the reward. It now has a reward but my total hasn't gone up.
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January 09, 2014, 09:56:24 PM
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It's easy to tell who the veteran miners are vs. the newcomers.  I've never posted in this thread, but I've been mining with Slush for about a year now-- long enough to understand that there are sometimes glitches and that they rarely go unfixed.  It's so obvious that many of the users crying foul lately have never taken the time to study the mechanics of Slush pool (reward system, payout etc) nor do they have any idea who Slush is or what he has contributed to the bitcoin ecosystem.  Those accusing Slush of being a thief or pocketing your rewards need to stop and realize he is essentially the pioneer of cooperative mining as we know it.  People need to stop and think:  Maybe the pool just has issues as of late.... Maybe there isn't someone just trying to rip me off.  Is a glitchy pool grounds to leave?  Absolutely.  Grounds to accuse someone of thievery and malice?  Hardly.

Just my 2 cents.  In other news, pool luck is recovering.  That is nice.

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