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September 12, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
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As pool rate went up by nearly 50%, my reward came down 33%. Upside should be more blocks? But latest one still over 8 hrs and counting. Undecided

the pool went up by 33% not 50% so your payout should drop 33% as it did.

It was on 67 and went up to 97, so actually 45%, but not far off 50%.  An increase of 'approx' 50% meant the old pool total was 2/3rds of what it is now, so we roughly get a third less.  I think that an increase of 33% would have meant a reward reduction of a quarter, not a third.


eyeballing it. 67 increasing to 97, means 30 was added. 30 taken away from 67 is 37... all I see is 33% changes so payout should have a 33% change which it does... nothing to see here...

important part is the owners of 30 increase go back to their original pool and ASAP!!!
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September 12, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
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Yeah who invited  them to our pool party. ? Cry

If we continue to get 8-10- hour blocks with all this firepower I;m going to start to suspect something
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September 12, 2014, 07:57:30 PM
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Had a popped breaker on my dedicated circuit going to my mining equipment and lost 6 blocks can i cry now.  Angry Cry Cry

JT

Please check your amps being pulled. That breaker makes me nervous. I wouldn't want to see your house catch fire. Breakers actually can take more amps than are rated for. Heat trips them. The problem is the wire may burn with that heat. Please be carefull. Are you 220v or 110v? What amp is breaker?

Note: 110v 15amp circuit should be used for 1440watts/12amps max for no more than 3 hours at a time. You can problably do ok with 1400watts/11.8amps continuously. I know a lot of people run more but that's not safe.

All my miners are hosted in the server room of my friends Machine shop (He owes me i fix his cnc machines) and they are on a dedicated 20 amp circuit.  There was some kind of surge come down the line and knocked out a bunch of stuff.  Back up and running now but it still hurts to loose those six blocks.

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September 12, 2014, 07:59:25 PM
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^ good deal. Safety is Paramount!!!

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September 12, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
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My shares.     Reward
0               0.00025848

Lol  into the pool is massively glitching lately but lol how is this even possible.


Doesn't bother me though nothings going to stop me from hashing on slushs pool.  I just might split my miners between pool.



But it seems this is a elongated issue that seems to take time being fixed but time is but an essense, precious.


Best luck to all in fixing this issue

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September 12, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
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As pool rate went up by nearly 50%, my reward came down 33%. Upside should be more blocks? But latest one still over 8 hrs and counting. Undecided

the pool went up by 33% not 50% so your payout should drop 33% as it did.

It was on 67 and went up to 97, so actually 45%, but not far off 50%.  An increase of 'approx' 50% meant the old pool total was 2/3rds of what it is now, so we roughly get a third less.  I think that an increase of 33% would have meant a reward reduction of a quarter, not a third.


important part is the owners of 30 increase go back to their original pool and ASAP!!!

No argument from me on that!  Smiley
Seems to be dropping... down to 87 now.
Edit: Dropped as low as 79, now up to 87 again (20:46:08 UTC).  Huh
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September 12, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
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Free beer and t-shirts at ghash.io!!! You make double the bitcoin there and the guy who ownes it is a saint. Pool hopping actually works good there as long as you hop between ghash and Eligius(not Slush's). You just have to go try it out. All the hashrate there is from happy customers that they respect so much and not from a huge bitfurry farm that has led to the end of home mining making any profits. I respect all the smart people who kept mining there helping ghash make the profits to keep buying more asics for their farm. People talk bad about them sometimes but all they did in the past was intentionally double spend payments against the system but they admitted it - so that's ok. See you there!  Go ghash Smiley

You got me a free beer and t-shirts........They really need to work on the "Evil Empire" logo though.

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September 12, 2014, 09:45:26 PM
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Statistically speaking, I think bigger pool power is good. It helps crunch big blocks faster, but because of good pool luck we get more payment, even it is divided in smaller payments. If I`m correct.
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September 12, 2014, 09:59:54 PM
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^ Twice as much ghs has cut my profits in half. Notice it really hasn't affected our block count much. If we were nailing down 18 or so blocks a day then yes more ghs would be better. Mabey a pplns pool that worked in shifts I would be sitting a little better with this issue.

I agree if blocks dont increase with this huge surge of hashing power then somethings wrong in Demark
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September 12, 2014, 10:00:33 PM
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^ Twice as much ghs has cut my profits in half. Notice it really hasn't affected our block count much. If we were nailing down 18 or so blocks a day then yes more ghs would be better. Mabey a pplns pool that worked in shifts I would be sitting a little better with this issue.
would love if just before this diff jump ...prob tomorrow we could have some nice rain 15 blocks 24 hrs yes PLZ Roll Eyes

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September 12, 2014, 10:02:31 PM
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^ so much ghs at once. We may start nailing them down. We will see. Let the Rain Dance begin!!! We are officially testing new waters. I guess we need a minimum of 12 blocks a day to survive? If we can keep it steady and balanced without people hopping around and throwing off our processing stability, which does effect luck on block solving, we may have a chance.

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September 12, 2014, 10:51:54 PM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

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September 13, 2014, 12:21:05 AM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...


Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

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September 13, 2014, 12:32:43 AM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...


Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

  How do you know if someone was block witholding?
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September 13, 2014, 12:39:13 AM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...


Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

  How do you know if someone was block witholding?



There's quite a few pages in the BTCGuild thread about the block withholding user...it was going on earlier this year from what I read

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September 13, 2014, 12:42:43 AM
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 How do you know if someone was block witholding?
It has been discussed to death in other threads.  There is absolutely no way of knowing it apart from bad luck for certain. The best you can do is be very suspicious once one miner has mined more than about 5x diff in shares and not found a block. By 10x diff it's almost certain. That's a long time to wait and see before you can start accusing, and there's nothing to stop them from just moving their mining to a different account or split it across multiple accounts to hide it. On the other hand, on a non-PPS pool, the miner has zero to gain by doing a block withhold unless they're maliciously trying to harm the pool as a very expensive exercise. The only known block withhold to date has been attributed to a software bug on the miner's part for their custom mining hardware+software combination, but even then we'll never know for sure.

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September 13, 2014, 12:59:35 AM
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 How do you know if someone was block witholding?
It has been discussed to death in other threads.  There is absolutely no way of knowing it apart from bad luck for certain. The best you can do is be very suspicious once one miner has mined more than about 5x diff in shares and not found a block. By 10x diff it's almost certain. That's a long time to wait and see before you can start accusing, and there's nothing to stop them from just moving their mining to a different account or split it across multiple accounts to hide it. On the other hand, on a non-PPS pool, the miner has zero to gain by doing a block withhold unless they're maliciously trying to harm the pool as a very expensive exercise. The only known block withhold to date has been attributed to a software bug on the miner's part for their custom mining hardware+software combination, but even then we'll never know for sure.

Thank you for putting this into layman's terms. I actually understand it better now than from when I was trying to follow the thread and I do remember the custom software being mentioned now.

I don't claim to know too much about the technicalities of how mining works but I do my best to stay aware of whats happening so that I can make more educated decisions when it comes to buying new gear or what have you.

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September 13, 2014, 01:07:02 AM
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CK, know you visit various threads do you have any insight / speculation on the sudden appearance of the 3+PH here? As said thanks for that and other explanations it really does break it down and helps educate a lot of us.

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September 13, 2014, 01:33:38 AM
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CK, know you visit various threads do you have any insight / speculation on the sudden appearance of the 3+PH here? As said thanks for that and other explanations it really does break it down and helps educate a lot of us.
No idea, and no they're not the same entity that mined on my solo pool.

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September 13, 2014, 03:42:57 AM
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We have went from 8 blocks in 24 hours down to 6 blocks in 24 hours. With this pool hashrate we need a minimum of 8 blocks per 24 hour. You guys know I'm normally positive about this pool when everyone is bitching, but it's panic mode time!!!! Sound the alarms!!!!!

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