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September 13, 2014, 12:21:05 AM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...


Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

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September 13, 2014, 12:32:43 AM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...


Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

  How do you know if someone was block witholding?
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September 13, 2014, 12:39:13 AM
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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...


Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

  How do you know if someone was block witholding?



There's quite a few pages in the BTCGuild thread about the block withholding user...it was going on earlier this year from what I read

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September 13, 2014, 12:42:43 AM
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 How do you know if someone was block witholding?
It has been discussed to death in other threads.  There is absolutely no way of knowing it apart from bad luck for certain. The best you can do is be very suspicious once one miner has mined more than about 5x diff in shares and not found a block. By 10x diff it's almost certain. That's a long time to wait and see before you can start accusing, and there's nothing to stop them from just moving their mining to a different account or split it across multiple accounts to hide it. On the other hand, on a non-PPS pool, the miner has zero to gain by doing a block withhold unless they're maliciously trying to harm the pool as a very expensive exercise. The only known block withhold to date has been attributed to a software bug on the miner's part for their custom mining hardware+software combination, but even then we'll never know for sure.

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September 13, 2014, 12:59:35 AM
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 How do you know if someone was block witholding?
It has been discussed to death in other threads.  There is absolutely no way of knowing it apart from bad luck for certain. The best you can do is be very suspicious once one miner has mined more than about 5x diff in shares and not found a block. By 10x diff it's almost certain. That's a long time to wait and see before you can start accusing, and there's nothing to stop them from just moving their mining to a different account or split it across multiple accounts to hide it. On the other hand, on a non-PPS pool, the miner has zero to gain by doing a block withhold unless they're maliciously trying to harm the pool as a very expensive exercise. The only known block withhold to date has been attributed to a software bug on the miner's part for their custom mining hardware+software combination, but even then we'll never know for sure.

Thank you for putting this into layman's terms. I actually understand it better now than from when I was trying to follow the thread and I do remember the custom software being mentioned now.

I don't claim to know too much about the technicalities of how mining works but I do my best to stay aware of whats happening so that I can make more educated decisions when it comes to buying new gear or what have you.

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September 13, 2014, 01:07:02 AM
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CK, know you visit various threads do you have any insight / speculation on the sudden appearance of the 3+PH here? As said thanks for that and other explanations it really does break it down and helps educate a lot of us.

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September 13, 2014, 01:33:38 AM
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CK, know you visit various threads do you have any insight / speculation on the sudden appearance of the 3+PH here? As said thanks for that and other explanations it really does break it down and helps educate a lot of us.
No idea, and no they're not the same entity that mined on my solo pool.

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September 13, 2014, 03:42:57 AM
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We have went from 8 blocks in 24 hours down to 6 blocks in 24 hours. With this pool hashrate we need a minimum of 8 blocks per 24 hour. You guys know I'm normally positive about this pool when everyone is bitching, but it's panic mode time!!!! Sound the alarms!!!!!

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September 13, 2014, 04:07:22 AM
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What happened to this pool!!! My rewards have tanked and it is taking the same amount of time or even longer to find a block. If this keeps up it will be time to move on. A pity considering this was a great place to mine. Nothing good lasts for ever!!!
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September 13, 2014, 04:15:16 AM
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What happened to this pool!!! My rewards have tanked and it is taking the same amount of time or even longer to find a block. If this keeps up it will be time to move on. A pity considering this was a great place to mine. Nothing good lasts for ever!!!
Payouts are becoming fewer and further between  Cry

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September 13, 2014, 04:21:04 AM
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I have mined with Slush for several months but have never posted, however, my silence has ended. This is the end of a good thing!!!!! Goodbye Slush!!!!
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September 13, 2014, 04:55:16 AM
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We have went from 8 blocks in 24 hours down to 6 blocks in 24 hours. With this pool hashrate we need a minimum of 12 blocks per 24 hour. You guys know I'm normally positive about this pool when everyone is bitching, but it's panic mode time!!!! Sound the alarms!!!!!!

Yeah I am watching the block count closely and will be making a move in the next couple/few days if necessary.

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September 13, 2014, 05:04:27 AM
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We have went from 8 blocks in 24 hours down to 6 blocks in 24 hours. With this pool hashrate we need a minimum of 12 blocks per 24 hour. You guys know I'm normally positive about this pool when everyone is bitching, but it's panic mode time!!!! Sound the alarms!!!!!!

Yeah I am watching the block count closely and will be making a move in the next couple/few days if necessary.

Same here. I really have enjoyed this pool so hopefully works out.
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September 13, 2014, 05:29:00 AM
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beat it , nerds.

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September 13, 2014, 06:10:14 AM
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Everybody is jumping in!!! This is a video of Slush's Pool right now.

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September 13, 2014, 07:34:57 AM
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Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days):   111%, 95%, 107%
And there are still people who complain  Huh
As long as we are over 100% it doesn't matter how much hashpower is added to the pool, because the luck is calculated based on the actual power!
If we are over 100% luck we get more regardless of the pool hashpower.

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September 13, 2014, 08:44:47 AM
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Its not just us, I think it must be Manuf putting the newest gen ASICs to work either in their cloud farms or in testing before sending off to customers, every pool I looked at has had a big jump in hashing power this week and it looks like too much to just be people moving around. Haven't looked yet but anyone tracking the % increase in the total network hashrate?
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September 13, 2014, 09:44:11 AM
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Wondering if other pool members are experiencing lack of reward payouts.
My confirmed reward has been way over the payout threshold for at least 3 hours.  Ticket raised with Slush support.
Maybe this is related to the other 'hiccups' experienced over the last few days.
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September 13, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
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Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days):   111%, 95%, 107%
And there are still people who complain  Huh
As long as we are over 100% it doesn't matter how much hashpower is added to the pool, because the luck is calculated based on the actual power!
If we are over 100% luck we get more regardless of the pool hashpower.


How about cold figures in stead of complaining? Yesterday I've mined only 0.048 BTC  (due to the increased hashpower)  At this moment (september 13) it's worth only 16,95. (sell on bitonic.nl)
I burn 11,36 Euro's electricity on a daily base, hence... my overwhelming profit was a whopping 5,59 lousy Euro's!


More non complaining figures: when I started mining I got the average of 0.087 BTC daily. At that time a BTC fetched around 635 Euro's, the equivalent of 55,42 Euro's. (still burning 11,36 euro's on electricity/day)

Bases on these non-complaining, but realistic figures I have to conclude that bitcoin "profits" have come down by a factor 10. I predict in a few months from now, mining bitcoins doesn't make any sense anymore for the common man.
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September 13, 2014, 01:28:58 PM
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Bases on these non-complaining, but realistic figures I have to conclude that bitcoin "profits" have come down by a factor 10. I predict in a few months from now, mining bitcoins doesn't make any sense anymore for the common man


The only way to make money in this game is either BTC surges and stays above $650 (or Euro equivalent) or you can buy mining equipment at a good price (I came up with my own formulas for that) and you sell the machines after 2-3 months, while you can get at least half you purchase price back. Of course, this is all 'work' so the real question is if you are not better off simply buying BTC when cheap(er). Keep in mind that many/most ASIC miner manufacturers run their newest machines for 1-2 months themselves before selling them so they are the only ones really ahead of the game.
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