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September 13, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
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8 on the 12th, and 6 so far today,
end of the day at Slush's it is at 02h00 AM (Paris Time).


hashrate has fallen back to 88 from high of 97 should see a slight uptick in estimated rewards... I personally don't care much about the hashrate fluctuation I just want the luck #'s up up up ^

to 86 now, after they sucked all the luck #'s up they run away... they got to be yankeez^^

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September 13, 2014, 10:18:34 PM
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August 21th was a really nice day, big money day Smiley

Le ROI est mort.
No more ROI, Mining in Europe it's almost the end of the game, except for few countries like Romania and Bulgaria where the electricty is cheap.
The last country to enjoy mining be the USA and in some part of this country like around Whashington or somewhere else i don't remember (very cheap electricty).


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atm  were I'm  at it's  nice electric we pay  9 to 13  per kw  so not to bad  cents not dollars, I   live just out side DC and 10 miles  about from Baltimore. until my Power bill  is hit  hard I'm  gonna mine my ass off .
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September 13, 2014, 10:21:51 PM
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2000 T Gone, where did t go so quick?
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September 13, 2014, 10:32:33 PM
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2000 T Gone, where did t go so quick?



 Eclipse .com is worse i was there  just trying it out because this pool seemed to come to a stand still last nite i was getting for a a few hours there like 7 digits per pay  out I was like wow nice  then for no reason i saw i dropped to 2 digits per pay out.: that 's a US base company (   MY  problem is mostly my speed atm  but that aobut to change once the one  S3 and two grades come in for two of my S1   but here i don't drop like that low even at 600 GH I stay at most of the time  5 to 6 digits pay out .
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September 13, 2014, 10:36:24 PM
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Speed is dropped back almost to  " normal " it had to be some manufacturer testing new miners
JMHO
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September 13, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
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You have the higher hash rate, which means that if your contributed rate is the same you get a smaller piece of the pie. But the higher pool hash helps mitigate the effect of increased difficulty.

that is not true

Take a look at the stats page:
2014-09-08 - 3 blocks
2014-09-09 - 3 blocks
2014-09-10 - 5 blocks
2014-09-11 - 5 blocks
on average 4 blocks per day and then the hashrate increase with 33% = expected 6 blocks per day
2014-09-12 - 8 blocks
2014-09-13 (half the day) - 4 blocks = 6 blocks average ... and the day is not over yet

Before 2014-09-12 I got 0.002 per round and now it's down to 0.00135 or 0.008 per day before and 0.0081 per day now ... as you can it's more NOW than BEFORE
Don't trust me - do the math yourself

@Datelli cold figures from the day i have started mining - the difficulty was ~700k and now it is 27428630902, the BTC price was ~0.05$ and now it's ~500$, but the mining is still not dead and makes sense?

There was a guy who gathered all the block data for  this year and concluded that on avg. we  will get about six blocks. This is my personal experience but back in May when I was running ~1.4 THS, I was getting about 0.1 per day  and now with 2.7 THS I barely get 0.07 or less. You need to realized that the slush is not only pool with increase hashrate.
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September 13, 2014, 11:29:05 PM
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You have the higher hash rate, which means that if your contributed rate is the same you get a smaller piece of the pie. But the higher pool hash helps mitigate the effect of increased difficulty.

that is not true

Take a look at the stats page:
2014-09-08 - 3 blocks
2014-09-09 - 3 blocks
2014-09-10 - 5 blocks
2014-09-11 - 5 blocks
on average 4 blocks per day and then the hashrate increase with 33% = expected 6 blocks per day
2014-09-12 - 8 blocks
2014-09-13 (half the day) - 4 blocks = 6 blocks average ... and the day is not over yet

Before 2014-09-12 I got 0.002 per round and now it's down to 0.00135 or 0.008 per day before and 0.0081 per day now ... as you can it's more NOW than BEFORE
Don't trust me - do the math yourself

@Datelli cold figures from the day i have started mining - the difficulty was ~700k and now it is 27428630902, the BTC price was ~0.05$ and now it's ~500$, but the mining is still not dead and makes sense?

There was a guy who gathered all the block data for  this year and concluded that on avg. we  will get about six blocks. This is my personal experience but back in May when I was running ~1.4 THS, I was getting about 0.1 per day  and now with 2.7 THS I barely get 0.07 or less. You need to realized that the slush is not only pool with increase hashrate.




So true.     the difficulty changing also causes for a decrease in payout.   

But still giving a rather amazing payout.   Years go on more miners get added to pools thus causing an increase in difficulty.

But hey.      A payout is a payout.   And its alllllll about time and patients.


The speed thing fluctuation sucks but met.  I rather stay on a pool that inobi can trust and rely on.   Than one I dontnreally use and may not be so reliable

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September 14, 2014, 12:37:27 AM
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So a quick question the mining calculators make it tough to decide is it possible to still make a profit if I add a cointerra iv there is one available for 950$ I'm gonna try and get it for 850$ or btc equivalent anyone that has one does it hash consistent around 1.6 th/s also what is the stock power draw? Huh

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September 14, 2014, 02:11:56 AM
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So a quick question the mining calculators make it tough to decide is it possible to still make a profit if I add a cointerra iv there is one available for 950$ I'm gonna try and get it for 850$ or btc equivalent anyone that has one does it hash consistent around 1.6 th/s also what is the stock power draw? Huh
I personally haven't had any experience with their hardware but there is a lot on ebay for around that price. Power I think is 1200 w but I would read through the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269093.2460 before making a decision.

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September 14, 2014, 02:23:38 AM
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This is quite interesting... When you look at the difficulty (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty):

Why does the hash rate go down before the difficulty goes up? I never thought about this - maybe it's a typical newbie question.

Before the last difficulty jump (Sept. 13th?) this hash rate drop was not that high. I wonder if some folks try to manipulate the difficulty by switching on some TBs of hashing power at the right moment?
I don't know how the difficulty steps are calculated. I hope that it's not possible to manipulate them in this way... (Or: Finally, it's not a manipulation, because this TBs of more hashing power really exists, even when they are switched on only temporarily)
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September 14, 2014, 03:20:04 AM
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rah!

back to normal hash...
its like a 1/3 drop...
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September 14, 2014, 04:56:36 AM
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So a quick question the mining calculators make it tough to decide is it possible to still make a profit if I add a cointerra iv there is one available for 950$ I'm gonna try and get it for 850$ or btc equivalent anyone that has one does it hash consistent around 1.6 th/s also what is the stock power draw? Huh

I have 18 IVs in my farm. I'm pretty sure the power draw is 2100.  Buying a used one now.... I wouldn't pay more than 500.00 and only if it's a confirmed Data Center pull.  You need time to make your ROI before the next bump and 1.6TH isn't as much as it was 6 months ago...

Cointerra is selling them for 999.00 for buys of 100+ (used confirmed DC pulls ).  It was 1500.00 3 weeks ago.  I think you can see the trend.  In a few months you won't be able to give them away just like old KnC , BFL, Avalon, etc.


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September 14, 2014, 05:18:23 AM
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So a quick question the mining calculators make it tough to decide is it possible to still make a profit if I add a cointerra iv there is one available for 950$ I'm gonna try and get it for 850$ or btc equivalent anyone that has one does it hash consistent around 1.6 th/s also what is the stock power draw? Huh

I have 18 IVs in my farm. I'm pretty sure the power draw is 2100.  Buying a used one now.... I wouldn't pay more than 500.00 and only if it's a confirmed Data Center pull.  You need time to make your ROI before the next bump and 1.6TH isn't as much as it was 6 months ago...

Cointerra is selling them for 999.00 for buys of 100+ (used confirmed DC pulls ).  It was 1500.00 3 weeks ago.  I think you can see the trend.  In a few months you won't be able to give them away just like old KnC , BFL, Avalon, etc.


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so adding the 1.6ths for 850$ is still not a good deal? it is a dc pull and verified temps and hash i pay like .07 pkwh with 10% diff jumps looks like a sub 90 day roi which is the same as buying 3 s3+ and or 2 tubes etc? I mean Roi is tight across the board right now and im not seeing great improvements sp20 will be more power efficent but costs way to much for the hashrate who knows when s4 etc will come out diff will be 40+ I'm just trying to find an economical way to stay valid until next phase ie: 20nm 1th/s per 500w miners come out for 1th/s per .5btc lol Roll Eyes

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September 14, 2014, 07:18:13 AM
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So a quick question the mining calculators make it tough to decide is it possible to still make a profit if I add a cointerra iv there is one available for 950$ I'm gonna try and get it for 850$ or btc equivalent anyone that has one does it hash consistent around 1.6 th/s also what is the stock power draw? Huh

Check out CrazyGuys website:

https://asicpuppy.com/magentoPuppy/

Or his thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769998.msg8680806#msg8680806

I wouldn't mess with the used cointerra...IMOHO


^ That power draw seems high. A couple hundred watts can make or break you at this point in the game. You can get new in stock and more efficient for miners for less money

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September 14, 2014, 08:13:52 AM
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You have the higher hash rate, which means that if your contributed rate is the same you get a smaller piece of the pie. But the higher pool hash helps mitigate the effect of increased difficulty.

that is not true

Take a look at the stats page:
2014-09-08 - 3 blocks
2014-09-09 - 3 blocks
2014-09-10 - 5 blocks
2014-09-11 - 5 blocks
on average 4 blocks per day and then the hashrate increase with 33% = expected 6 blocks per day
2014-09-12 - 8 blocks
2014-09-13 (half the day) - 4 blocks = 6 blocks average ... and the day is not over yet

Before 2014-09-12 I got 0.002 per round and now it's down to 0.00135 or 0.008 per day before and 0.0081 per day now ... as you can it's more NOW than BEFORE
Don't trust me - do the math yourself

@Datelli cold figures from the day i have started mining - the difficulty was ~700k and now it is 27428630902, the BTC price was ~0.05$ and now it's ~500$, but the mining is still not dead and makes sense?

There was a guy who gathered all the block data for  this year and concluded that on avg. we  will get about six blocks. This is my personal experience but back in May when I was running ~1.4 THS, I was getting about 0.1 per day  and now with 2.7 THS I barely get 0.07 or less. You need to realized that the slush is not only pool with increase hashrate.




So true.     the difficulty changing also causes for a decrease in payout.   

But still giving a rather amazing payout.   Years go on more miners get added to pools thus causing an increase in difficulty.

But hey.      A payout is a payout.   And its alllllll about time and patients.


The speed thing fluctuation sucks but met.  I rather stay on a pool that inobi can trust and rely on.   Than one I dontnreally use and may not be so reliable


There is going to be point where small miner like myself won't compete with the large farm and probably needs to stop mining all together. I'm paying almost rent money for electricity every month.
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September 14, 2014, 09:58:55 AM
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I now want owner of big hashrate back to slush pool, because he helped to crunch big long blocks we stuck and if pool luck is above 100% we all get more payment for it in long run...
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September 14, 2014, 11:03:09 AM
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There is going to be point where small miner like myself won't compete with the large farm and probably needs to stop mining all together. I'm paying almost rent money for electricity every month.

yeah I was looking at the spondoolies sp20 home miner 1190 usd 1100watts at 15c/kwh looks like I'm out..I still have my (bad choice) knc NO ROI Titan 1st batch coming (that is gonna hurt) ....but after that I see zip...cloud mining shares even if legit like hashnet has all the glamor of buying stock...so i will go to www.coinbase.com buy some coin once in awhile but looks like I just can't get the puppy to fly as a home miner...maybe someone in the northwest usa with hydro power at 2c/kwh or some such....and I really found out this was true...all hosting of mriners I could find (Titan DC miner Washington state as an example) when all the costs are figured in the fairest price i could find was you guessed it ..came out to 15c/kwh

sign from god I guess just to go to www.coinbase.com already


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September 14, 2014, 01:30:48 PM
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yeah I was looking at the spondoolies sp20 home miner 1190 usd 1100watts at 15c/kwh looks like I'm out..I still have my (bad choice) knc NO ROI Titan 1st batch coming (that is gonna hurt) ....but after that I see zip...cloud mining shares even if legit like hashnet has all the glamor of buying stock...so i will go to www.coinbase.com buy some coin once in awhile but looks like I just can't get the puppy to fly as a home miner...maybe someone in the northwest usa with hydro power at 2c/kwh or some such....and I really found out this was true...all hosting of mriners I could find (Titan DC miner Washington state as an example) when all the costs are figured in the fairest price i could find was you guessed it ..came out to 15c/kwh

sign from god I guess just to go to www.coinbase.com already



When I look back, I think it would of been wiser move to buy the bitcoin directly rather than mining. I guess lesson learn
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September 14, 2014, 02:47:59 PM
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When I look back, I think it would of been wiser move to buy the bitcoin directly rather than mining. I guess lesson learn


Yea :p.   I recently bought 2 s1s.   Been brining in a sweet profit bought 2 for $340 CAD.     BOUGHT another 9 s1s with 7 PSUs. 3 miners for 340 cad the rest of the miner are basically on loan.    But will give me about 2.4Th/s.

I pay about .08ckw/h but run em on free electrcitiy as well.


But iv thought about just buying them make money faster

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September 14, 2014, 03:24:37 PM
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^^^ for avg folks, minging will be obsolete very near soon. So far I made little profit for my 8 S1's but as to 4 S3 (near break even). All my S1 have been undervolted and underwatted or current I can't seems to remember right terminology. I'm thinking about selling it, I don't know
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