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September 25, 2014, 05:09:12 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.

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September 25, 2014, 05:41:05 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.

It's more simple than that:

It can be just one shift [even though I was in all 10 shifts for a combined total of more than 11 hours (1 hour 9 minutes for each shift)].

Two of my shifts had 3 blocks for a total reward of:  0.00186723 BTC [That was ALL 10 of my Bitmain S3's.]

IF you happen to have 3 blocks in all 10 shifts, simply multiply 0.00186723 x 10 shifts for a total of 0.0186723.

I'm not dumb.  It doesn't take 11 hours.  It would only take 1 shift with a block reward and simply do the math.  I did it during that 14 hour and 59 minute laps of time that we hit nothing on Slush.  So, I did make a little something during that 11 hours at BTC. I managed to make it back in time to Slush's pool to get .00981577 reward before that 15 hours dry spell came to a close.  That means one could add the .00981577 from slush and the .01631908 I earned during the 11 hours on BTC to come to a total of .02613485.  I simply got fortunate.  That's all.

So again, one could just use their hashing power during ONE SHIFT that has just 1 block reward [It doesn't take 3 block rewards; I just happened to get 3].  Simply multiply the shift reward for that 1 block times 10 shifts to come up with the total.  It's that simple.

Don't ASSUME I "don't understand" how to do math.

Don't ASSUME I would think I needed to be on their 10 shifts!  I just took a gamble THAT PAID OFF during that 14:59 minute dry spell we had here on slush!  I don't recommend taking that gamble like I did for that long.  I just got fortunate!  That's all...

I WOULD RECOMMEND STAYING ON SLUSH AND DON"T GAMBLE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.  ESPECIALLY FOR HOW LONG OF A PERIOD I STAYED AWAY!  I SIMPLY TOOK A GAMBLE THAT PAID OFF!

I wish I knew how many SHARES I could earn with my hashing power on BTC without hashing on their site.  IF I knew that, there would be no need to hash for even one shift.  One could simply go to the PPLNS STATS and look in PPLNS HISTORY.  THEN CLICK "VIEW" on one of the shifts; find you "shares" you could earn [IF you knew how many you could earn in a shift] then multiply the earnings from those shares by 10 shifts.  IT IS THAT SIMPLE

Don't assume things.  I was simply trying to help without going into a lot of great detail about the math.

Both pools would probably be close to the same if they both had approximately the same hashing power and same number of miners.  The difference in shares earned on BTC is much less than Slush because way more people mine on BTC than Slush.  Commonsense would tell someone their shares earned would be much less.  I found that I was 634th in rankings out of over 7,558 miners.  I was just curious what my shares would be and thought I would gamble while Slush was looking for a block and it paid off.  However, I don't feel it is worth the gamble again.

My opinion...

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September 25, 2014, 06:10:30 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.   

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September 25, 2014, 06:46:44 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.

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September 25, 2014, 06:57:37 PM
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JUST A THOUGHT:

IF someone has an extra TH to go solo, it might be worth putting on BitSolo to get all 25 blocks.  The pool splits the rest.  One miner with just under 1 TH found 4 blocks in the month of August.  Can you imagine?  Over $40,000 USD in the month of August with approximately 1 TH.  WHAT LUCK!

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shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.   

No clue, I do not have any business deals or discussions with ASIC makers or cloud mining farms.  The only thing BTC Guild has ever done connected to one is when I was an official reseller for ASICMINER USB miners a year ago.

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eerrrrr   shift mining   Sad..  rather be paid like here or even here https://westhash.com/index.jsp
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September 25, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
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JUST A THOUGHT:

IF someone has an extra TH to go solo, it might be worth putting on BitSolo to get all 25 blocks.  The pool splits the rest.  One miner with just under 1 TH found 4 blocks in the month of August.  Can you imagine?  Over $40,000 USD in the month of August with approximately 1 TH.  WHAT LUCK!



I saw that when i went looking at  solo mining just wish i had that kind of power to let just one set there.  but i just started and got to build it up .
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September 25, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
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eerrrrr   shift mining   Sad..  rather be paid like here or even here https://westhash.com/index.jsp

Will they allow you to mine for yourself without buying or selling your hashing power?

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September 25, 2014, 07:19:28 PM
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Came here to moan about miner again crashing 2 minutes before block getting found...Never fails Murphy's Law.

But saw the previous posts and have to say, the idea that the minor bash hole makes Bitcoin vulnerable is laughable. The vulnerability doesn't even allow for outside process privilege upscale. Without direct access and multiple processes it really is just a minor bug. Now if someone wants to try and hack into every Linux/Unix box that has a wallet and can get a piece of software run on it and can get the hole to transmit to another opiece of their software on every one of those millions of machines at once; well then there Could be a problem. Call me when every person on earth is sneezing at once, I want to see that too.
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September 25, 2014, 07:27:45 PM
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JUST A THOUGHT:

IF someone has an extra TH to go solo, it might be worth putting on BitSolo to get all 25 blocks.  The pool splits the rest.  One miner with just under 1 TH found 4 blocks in the month of August.  Can you imagine?  Over $40,000 USD in the month of August with approximately 1 TH.  WHAT LUCK!



I saw that when i went looking at solo mining just wish i had that kind of power to let just one set there.  but i just started and got to build it up .

IF YOU CAN, use your BTC to buy straight from Bitmaintech.com in China.  It's cheaper than buying from someone else and you KNOW you have a BRAND NEW rig that was not over-clocked.  The problem is, it takes a long time to get 1 BTC without a decent amount of hashing power.  That's why I used a credit card to get 10 S3's to avoid using my pay that I need for bills at present.  There will be costs on the front end for power consumption.  If your power is free, then that's a plus!  I don't know your situation.  I'm married and have a 3 year old with a mortgage, etc...  That's why I used credit to get started.

I'm about to order 6 more S3's as soon as I get paid from a class I'm doing next week.  I plan on using two of those to mine on BitSolo.

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September 25, 2014, 07:29:43 PM
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eerrrrr   shift mining   Sad..  rather be paid like here or even here https://westhash.com/index.jsp

Will they allow you to mine for yourself without buying or selling your hashing power?
 

Have to do either the way its sets up , i don't think you can solo mine if you mean that it's either sell or buy, that i saw i sell . I guess it's some thing you have to like i like how the pay works all valid shares pay no matter what, if you sell the buy part is you bid for the top spot for a day or two  and then use all the hash at any pool that can handle it but you point there site at that pool so I'm guessing you can do both at the same time sell and buy haven't try . if you buy and using some one else miner getting paid it might matter  how blocks find are being handled . that about the only down side so far i see .
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September 25, 2014, 07:37:33 PM
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eerrrrr   shift mining   Sad..  rather be paid like here or even here https://westhash.com/index.jsp

Will they allow you to mine for yourself without buying or selling your hashing power?
 

Have to do either the way its sets up , i don't think you can solo mine if you mean that it's either sell or buy, that i saw i sell . I guess it's some thing you have to like i like  how the pay works all valid shares pay no matter what if you sell the buy part is you bid for the top spot for a day or two  and then use all the hash at any pool that can handle it  but you point there site at that pool so I'm guessing you can do both at the same time  sell and buy haven't tired yet  but you can actually  control all the hash on the site. atm id rather sell and  watch to see how it plays out . neat idea to me .

Okay, thanks for the info.

I'm in it for my own profits and not to sell.  I suppose it depends on how much hashing power one has or plans to have.

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September 25, 2014, 07:50:49 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.


to me that's  not pool hoping you can do the same thing with the S1 if you  know what file to edit with shh and set it the same way in a S1 load balance , balance  etc but with the S 3 i only saw three pool setting in the UI .  S1 has none you have edit it  in but you  can  use any setting  Cgminer supports not sure if editing the S3 will let you now.  I'll  find out later today  . btw i like  BGFMINER more but no ant yet has it but some are  working on it I've found BFG to be  more stable  for me then CG is but i can't use that in ants  unless you know were or how i can or link i can read about how I've been looking.

POOL hopping  is using a program that searches the webb for you and switch you the best one at that moment i can see were that would piss off a few,that i won't do .

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September 25, 2014, 07:57:19 PM
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Boy I really threw a monkey wrench into this party heh ?

Every time I change pools I have that effect, I'm like a "cooler" at the casinos.
The guy they have on hand to screw things up when a customer starts winning too much.
I'm running on such a slim margin now that I'm chasing the last BTC...
But sadly it is not coming... soon the power to BTC ratio will win and we all loose.
Such is life, easy come easy go !
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I'll never quit mining.   There's always profit in it.

However this is pathetic.   So far I don't even think we have had single block all day.   Tongue.    Its either going over 7ph/s or w.e and we go mad slow.     Or somebody is bringing us terrible luck.  Or you really dumb pool hoppers.  Hopping won't help you make money faster or more efficient mining.       



This is lame though Tongue oh well it'll pick back up again, it always does.    But i doubt its not going to get any  better before the diff rise in about 1/2  day to 1 day.

I've already explained what happened , I'm back so blocks will slow to a crawl, simple as that happens every time  Roll Eyes
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September 25, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.


to me that's  not pool hoping you can do the same thing with the  S1 if you  know what file to edit with shh and set it the same way in a S1 load balance , balance  etc but with the S 3 i only saw three pool setting in the UI .  S1 has none you have edit it  in but can  use any that Cgminer will let you in the S1 not sure if even editing in the S3 will let you now.  I'll  find out later today  . btw i like  BGFMINER more but no ant yet has it but some are  working on it I've found BFG to be  more stable  for me then CG is but i can't use that in ants  unless you know  were i can.


POOL hopping  is using a program that searches the webb for you and switch you the best one at that moment i can see were that would piss off a few that i won't do .

Okay, now I know what "pool hopping" is.

As you know, I'm not using cgminer of bgfminer.  I'm just using Bitmain Antminers with no program.  The only thing I've seen here lately, which refers to solo mining on BitSolo, may give you a tip [or not] for setting up ASIC hardware in cg or bfg-miner.

I copied and pasted the following from http://bitsolo.net/how-to/

Bitcoin ASIC HardwareFollow this section if you have purchased bitcoin ASIC hardware.  

Download and install cgminer from cgminer homepage

Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed cgminer

Edit the file and put in the following
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x


Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with cgminer running and mining for you.

Graphics Card

Following this section if you are planning to mine with your graphics card.

Download and install BFGMiner version 3.6.0 from BFGMiner Download. Additional instructions can be found from BFGMiner Homepage.

Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed bfgminer.

Edit the file and put in the following:

bfgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x
Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with bfgminer running and mining for you.



Watch and Wait
You need to keep your miner running at all times to mine. To find out if you have found a block look at the Best Share column on cgminer or BS on bfgminer. This will tell you your Best Share found so far. If this is higher than the network difficulty then you have found a block.

Additionally, when you have found a block it will show up in My Account tab and then be sent to your Bitcoin address :-)

This is the tough part so be prepared to watch and wait. To be honest, not many people have the mental attitude or patience to solo mine so you are a member of a select group if you make it past a week / month of solo mining.

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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.


to me that's  not pool hoping you can do the same thing with the  S1 if you  know what file to edit with shh and set it the same way in a S1 load balance , balance  etc but with the S 3 i only saw three pool setting in the UI .  S1 has none you have edit it  in but can  use any that Cgminer will let you in the S1 not sure if even editing in the S3 will let you now.  I'll  find out later today  . btw i like  BGFMINER more but no ant yet has it but some are  working on it I've found BFG to be  more stable  for me then CG is but i can't use that in ants  unless you know  were i can.


POOL hopping  is using a program that searches the webb for you and switch you the best one at that moment i can see were that would piss off a few that i won't do .

Okay, now I know what "pool hopping" is.

As you know, I'm not using cgminer of bgfminer.  I'm just using Bitmain Antminers with no program.  The only thing I've seen here lately, which refers to solo mining on BitSolo, may give you a tip [or not] for setting up ASIC hardware in cg or bfg-miner.

I copied and pasted the following from http://bitsolo.net/how-to/

Bitcoin ASIC HardwareFollow this section if you have purchased bitcoin ASIC hardware.  Download and install cgminer from cgminer homepage
Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed cgminerEdit the file and put in the following
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x

Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with cgminer running and mining for you.

Graphics Card

Following this section if you are planning to mine with your graphics card.

Download and install BFGMiner version 3.6.0 from BFGMiner Download. Additional instructions can be found from BFGMiner Homepage.

Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed bfgminer. Edit the file and put in the following

bfgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x
Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with bfgminer running and mining for you.



Watch and Wait
You need to keep your miner running at all times to mine. To find out if you have found a block look at the Best Share column on cgminer or BS on bfgminer. This will tell you your Best Share found so far. If this is higher than the network difficulty then you have found a block.

Additionally, when you have found a block it will show up in My Account tab and then be sent to your Bitcoin address :-)

This is the tough part so be prepared to watch and wait. To be honest, not many people have the mental attitude or patience to solo mine so you are a member of a select group if you make it past a week / month of solo mining.

cgminer runs the antminer atm  so there is  no way that i know of using any thing but CGminer that whats inside the the antminer. i want BFG  inside my antminer as my miner not CGMiner if  you khow how to  tell me plz .


I want to solo mine but atm don't have at least one stand alone   with at least 1.5 th to do just that while i do other stuff, i like mining in pools to see all  neat ideas they come up with also I  want to solo mine but i need at least one stand a lone for with some power.


I get bored fast solo mining .


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September 25, 2014, 08:19:56 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.


to me that's  not pool hoping you can do the same thing with the  S1 if you  know what file to edit with shh and set it the same way in a S1 load balance , balance  etc but with the S 3 i only saw three pool setting in the UI .  S1 has none you have edit it  in but can  use any that Cgminer will let you in the S1 not sure if even editing in the S3 will let you now.  I'll  find out later today  . btw i like  BGFMINER more but no ant yet has it but some are  working on it I've found BFG to be  more stable  for me then CG is but i can't use that in ants  unless you know  were i can.


POOL hopping  is using a program that searches the webb for you and switch you the best one at that moment i can see were that would piss off a few that i won't do .

Okay, now I know what "pool hopping" is.

As you know, I'm not using cgminer of bgfminer.  I'm just using Bitmain Antminers with no program.  The only thing I've seen here lately, which refers to solo mining on BitSolo, may give you a tip [or not] for setting up ASIC hardware in cg or bfg-miner.

I copied and pasted the following from http://bitsolo.net/how-to/

Bitcoin ASIC HardwareFollow this section if you have purchased bitcoin ASIC hardware.  Download and install cgminer from cgminer homepage
Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed cgminerEdit the file and put in the following
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x

Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with cgminer running and mining for you.

Graphics Card

Following this section if you are planning to mine with your graphics card.

Download and install BFGMiner version 3.6.0 from BFGMiner Download. Additional instructions can be found from BFGMiner Homepage.

Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed bfgminer. Edit the file and put in the following

bfgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x
Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with bfgminer running and mining for you.



Watch and Wait
You need to keep your miner running at all times to mine. To find out if you have found a block look at the Best Share column on cgminer or BS on bfgminer. This will tell you your Best Share found so far. If this is higher than the network difficulty then you have found a block.

Additionally, when you have found a block it will show up in My Account tab and then be sent to your Bitcoin address :-)

This is the tough part so be prepared to watch and wait. To be honest, not many people have the mental attitude or patience to solo mine so you are a member of a select group if you make it past a week / month of solo mining.


cgminer   run the antminer  .

On BitSolo's website http://bitsolo.net/how-to/, THEY lead me to believe you can use "ASIC HARDWARE," such as a Bitmain Antminer to mine with cgminer.  I could be misunderstanding.  I'm just now researching it today after finding their website last night.  I don't know a thing about WINDOWS OS.  I've had Mac's since year 2000.  I'm wanting to put 2 Bitmain Antminer S3's on BitSolo's pool IF I CAN.  It appears you can using cgminer but I'm not sure because I know NOTHING about the program.  It would be something else I have to learn about mining.

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September 25, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.


to me that's  not pool hoping you can do the same thing with the  S1 if you  know what file to edit with shh and set it the same way in a S1 load balance , balance  etc but with the S 3 i only saw three pool setting in the UI .  S1 has none you have edit it  in but can  use any that Cgminer will let you in the S1 not sure if even editing in the S3 will let you now.  I'll  find out later today  . btw i like  BGFMINER more but no ant yet has it but some are  working on it I've found BFG to be  more stable  for me then CG is but i can't use that in ants  unless you know  were i can.


POOL hopping  is using a program that searches the webb for you and switch you the best one at that moment i can see were that would piss off a few that i won't do .

Okay, now I know what "pool hopping" is.

As you know, I'm not using cgminer of bgfminer.  I'm just using Bitmain Antminers with no program.  The only thing I've seen here lately, which refers to solo mining on BitSolo, may give you a tip [or not] for setting up ASIC hardware in cg or bfg-miner.

I copied and pasted the following from http://bitsolo.net/how-to/

Bitcoin ASIC HardwareFollow this section if you have purchased bitcoin ASIC hardware.  Download and install cgminer from cgminer homepage
Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed cgminerEdit the file and put in the following
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x

Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with cgminer running and mining for you.

Graphics Card

Following this section if you are planning to mine with your graphics card.

Download and install BFGMiner version 3.6.0 from BFGMiner Download. Additional instructions can be found from BFGMiner Homepage.

Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed bfgminer. Edit the file and put in the following

bfgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x
Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with bfgminer running and mining for you.



Watch and Wait
You need to keep your miner running at all times to mine. To find out if you have found a block look at the Best Share column on cgminer or BS on bfgminer. This will tell you your Best Share found so far. If this is higher than the network difficulty then you have found a block.

Additionally, when you have found a block it will show up in My Account tab and then be sent to your Bitcoin address :-)

This is the tough part so be prepared to watch and wait. To be honest, not many people have the mental attitude or patience to solo mine so you are a member of a select group if you make it past a week / month of solo mining.


cgminer   run the antminer  .

On BitSolo's website http://bitsolo.net/how-to/, THEY lead me to believe you can use "ASIC HARDWARE," such as a Bitmain Antminer to mine with cgminer.  I could be misunderstanding.  I'm just now researching it today after finding their website last night.  I don't know a thing about WINDOWS OS.  I've had Mac's since year 2000.  I'm wanting to put 2 Bitmain Antminer S3's on BitSolo's pool IF I CAN.  It appears you can using cgminer but I'm not sure because I know NOTHING about the program.  It would be something else I have to learn about mining.



Ive been to that site did they give you  a upload of some kind to replace the antminer software I'll  have to go there again  and read more.


cool that how i found out about solo mining  i love that link when i found a month back .
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September 25, 2014, 08:27:22 PM
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My mining pool experience was:

Slush -> Ghash.io -> Back to Slush and i'll stay here for the rest of my life.

Of course i did test some other pools but i didnt trust them, was gonna try Eligius but was much research time..meh

I switched over to BTC Guild with all of my 10 S3's going on it to figure out something.  What I figured out is the following:  .0186723 for 3 blocks in an 11 hour period.  I make .01746733 on average for each block we find on here.  That total for BTC Guild was for 3 BLOCKS.  

SLUSH RULES...    PERIOD!!!

I have to find 3 blocks on BTC for every 1 block we find on here!  It's a no brainer...   SLUSH RULES...   PERIOD!!!

The only way it would benefit me is if we did not find a block at all on here during that entire 11 hour period.  But how are we supposed to know that?  It's a gamble I'm not willing to take!!!

Translation:  Somebody who doesn't understand PPLNS compares per block rewards from one pool to another instead of actual earnings.  Also thinks 11 hours is sufficient to compare *any* pool to another.

With a proper test, you'd have found that BTC Guild will pay you *per block* about half of what Slush does once you have shares in every shift, and find them about twice as often.  The fees are identical, and BTC Guild pays NMC.  Statistically, it will provide better income over enough time as a result.  It is also unhoppable, while Slush's score system has been hoppable since 2011.


shhhhh, don't tell people about it being hoppable =)  just curious, did GAW have to ask permission to use your "BTCGuild" name as one of their own pools ?  i see they recently changed it to Genesis Guild or something like that.  

Not sure what "GAW" is?

I can store 3 pools in each Antminer S3 in "Miner Configurations." I have Slush on #2 and BTC on #3.  I simply copy and paste from #2 or #3 into the #1 address pool to tell the S3 which pool I want to mine.  It takes no more than 1 minute to log into one of my S3's and change the pool address to the pool I wish to mine.  Even when I'm on the road training telephone technicians because I have a "static IP" assigned to my house.  This means I can connect to my network at the house while I'm away and have access to my S3's to monitor them, change clock speed, change pools, etc...

I have different "worker" names in each pool.  I don't have the same names on each pool.  I simply copy and past from one of the two pools I have already stored in #2 and #3 pool into the #1 pool choice.

I also have each S3 book marked and labeled as antMiner_1, antMiner_2, etc..  This way, once I log in to my network at the house, I simply click on the bookmark for whatever antMiner I wish to configure, monitor, etc...

Charter Communications did charge me another $20.00 each month for a static IP.  Which sucks, but it's worth having for monitoring video cameras and other things at the house. as well as having access to my antMiners while I'm away.


to me that's  not pool hoping you can do the same thing with the  S1 if you  know what file to edit with shh and set it the same way in a S1 load balance , balance  etc but with the S 3 i only saw three pool setting in the UI .  S1 has none you have edit it  in but can  use any that Cgminer will let you in the S1 not sure if even editing in the S3 will let you now.  I'll  find out later today  . btw i like  BGFMINER more but no ant yet has it but some are  working on it I've found BFG to be  more stable  for me then CG is but i can't use that in ants  unless you know  were i can.


POOL hopping  is using a program that searches the webb for you and switch you the best one at that moment i can see were that would piss off a few that i won't do .

Okay, now I know what "pool hopping" is.

As you know, I'm not using cgminer of bgfminer.  I'm just using Bitmain Antminers with no program.  The only thing I've seen here lately, which refers to solo mining on BitSolo, may give you a tip [or not] for setting up ASIC hardware in cg or bfg-miner.

I copied and pasted the following from http://bitsolo.net/how-to/

Bitcoin ASIC HardwareFollow this section if you have purchased bitcoin ASIC hardware.  Download and install cgminer from cgminer homepage
Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed cgminerEdit the file and put in the following
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x

Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with cgminer running and mining for you.

Graphics Card

Following this section if you are planning to mine with your graphics card.

Download and install BFGMiner version 3.6.0 from BFGMiner Download. Additional instructions can be found from BFGMiner Homepage.

Create a file named start.bat in the same directory you installed bfgminer. Edit the file and put in the following

bfgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitsolo.net:3334 -u 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH -p x
Change 1KbfPjjpwu5undFfGULwYpVyvo8gpdpCGH  to be your Bitcoin address.This is the address payments will be sent.

Run start.bat by double clicking on it.

You should now have a window with bfgminer running and mining for you.



Watch and Wait
You need to keep your miner running at all times to mine. To find out if you have found a block look at the Best Share column on cgminer or BS on bfgminer. This will tell you your Best Share found so far. If this is higher than the network difficulty then you have found a block.

Additionally, when you have found a block it will show up in My Account tab and then be sent to your Bitcoin address :-)

This is the tough part so be prepared to watch and wait. To be honest, not many people have the mental attitude or patience to solo mine so you are a member of a select group if you make it past a week / month of solo mining.

cgminer runs the antminer atm  so there is  no way that i know of using any thing but CGminer that whats inside the the antminer. i want BFG  inside my antminer as my miner not CGMiner if  you how to  tell me plz .


I want to solo mine but atm don;t have at least one mach with at least 1.5 th to do just that while i do other stuff i like mining in pools see nest idea they come up with also want to solo mine but i need at least one stands a lone for that the way i want to with some power I'll  get bored fast solo mining .




Look at pictures or videos on youtube and you will see 100's of Bitmain's hashing out in China or other places.  I doubt very seriously they are doing it through a pool.  They have to be doing it solo.  I don't know what is required to do solo and what software/application is needed to mine solo.  That's why I've been looking into it and ran across what I previously posted from BitSolo.

I don't know if it helped you because I'm not familiar with cg or bfg miners at all.

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