Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[SmokingSkull]

So...

What's going on now with the update? We've been informed that it would come and we already should look out for Infos in bitcointalk and reddit 


I just wonder, because the problem with the wallet/exchanges/hashrate is going on for quite long

[lunokhod2]

Does anyone have a chart of the total number of ANC in circulation as a function of time?

I could be wrong, but I think that about 300,000 coins have been minted in the past couple months in relation to the difficulty algorithm problems. If that is true, we will burn through a million coins (1/3 of total supply) by the end of the year.

[gostrol]

I have checked using http://www.timeanddate.com :

Genesis block : Sunday 02 June 2013

Up to block 87777 theoretical time for a block was 3.42 min hence : for 87777 x 3.42 min = 300197 min = 5003 hours

Sunday 02 June 2013 (noon) + 5003 hours (208 days, 11 hours) = 27 December 2013, 23 h 00 m 00 theoretical

In practice block 87777 timestamp is 2013-10-31 05:37:47

Hence two months in advance, probably due to diff too low in begining and/or attacks when diff adjust was like litecoin.

Taking 31 october 2013 for block 87777 and adding 257343 (actual block) - 87777 = 169566 blocks of 3 min each :

2013-10-31 + 8478 hours (353 days, 6 hours) = Sunday 19 October 2014, 18 h 00 m 00 (today)

--> hence I conclude the diff adjustment using KGW is on time even if having highly variable block time.

So there is no problem and not a million coins will be burned like you said in 2014. We are 49223 blocks = 246115 ANC before the halving reward, the date of halving is about 30 january 2015.

Does anyone have a chart of the total number of ANC in circulation as a function of time?

I could be wrong, but I think that about 300,000 coins have been minted in the past couple months in relation to the difficulty algorithm problems. If that is true, we will burn through a million coins (1/3 of total supply) by the end of the year.

[Gnosis-]

It's too late in the day for me to make a progress update, except to say that I have been writing code at a very rapid pace  You all can expect a real update in ~21 hours.

Generally the quieter I am on btctalk and IRC, the more work I am getting done, so don't worry if I'm not posting much here!

[tljenson]

It's too late in the day for me to make a progress update, except to say that I have been writing code at a very rapid pace  You all can expect a real update in ~21 hours.

Generally the quieter I am on btctalk and IRC, the more work I am getting done, so don't worry if I'm not posting much here!

Your fine, I for one really appreciate your time and hard work.

[Gnosis-]

I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.

I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.

[alincoln]

I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.

I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.

Really, this is the best you can do after saying it'd be ready in a week?

[darlidada]

lol

[CarlosFromAcuapulco]

I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.

I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.

You are a manipulator and certainly make much profit with your bullshit estimations.

[stealth923]

If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...

Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.

@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.

Agreed with the above!

Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.

I rest my case

[nbrk]

LOL -- Well that escalated quickly. Manged to half my investment in ANC in a couple of seconds. It's not even worth moving on at this point. See you in a couple'a months I guess...

[stealth923]

LOL -- Well that escalated quickly. Manged to half my investment in ANC in a couple of seconds. It's not even worth moving on at this point. See you in a couple'a months I guess...

To be honest I doubt this will ever see the light of day - if you look at the history of this thread, Gnosis cannot devote full time efforts, and even called out for donations so that he could for a small period of time.

My main concern as an investor is if this is ever released and there will be bugs, Gnosis might not be around to fix it.....

Edit: And not to mention the coin is already utterly fucked with difficulty raping going on...

[wooder]

I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.

I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.

this happens when one trusts an anonymous developer. delays after delays.

the coin is still defunct and raped on a day to day basis, zerocoin won't be implemented in
near future which all leads to a crypto with a defunct difficulty calculation. i bet the price will dump even harder very soon

sorry for all the investers that bought a ticket for the ANC-Titanic

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

This thing got very shady very quickly. Are these guys for real?

[rsa_ufo_attack]

LMAO
Who is the troll now?
All remember of my posts here. Someone send me 20 BTC some weeks ago to remove them all. Today, I understand why.

[Gnosis-]

If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...

Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.

@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.

Agreed with the above!

Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.

I rest my case

Yes, it was very heavy. In any case, I am still committed to getting this done, just not in the original time frame.

It's probably too much to ask, but for all of you panicking about the price dropping, hold tight because this is only temporary. I remember when BTC dropped from $30 to $2 and stayed there for months, before going back up to $60 and beyond. A coin dropping in price does not mean it's dead.

[alincoln]

If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...

Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.

@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.

Agreed with the above!

Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.

I rest my case

Yes, it was very heavy. In any case, I am still committed to getting this done, just not in the original time frame.

It's probably too much to ask, but for all of you panicking about the price dropping, hold tight because this is only temporary. I remember when BTC dropped from $30 to $2 and stayed there for months, before going back up to $60 and beyond. A coin dropping in price does not mean it's dead.

Bare minimum you should be doing by now besides apologizing is giving a full and detailed report of what you supposedly have achieved so far, and why you are postponing it again for 3 months after being 3 or 4 days away from the release date. The very fact that I am having to tell you this, along with your excess of optimism setting deadlines, is a big hit to your reputation and nail in ANC's coffin IMO.

[wooder]

If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...

Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.

@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.

Agreed with the above!

Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.

I rest my case

Yes, it was very heavy. In any case, I am still committed to getting this done, just not in the original time frame.

It's probably too much to ask, but for all of you panicking about the price dropping, hold tight because this is only temporary. I remember when BTC dropped from $30 to $2 and stayed there for months, before going back up to $60 and beyond. A coin dropping in price does not mean it's dead.

Bare minimum you should be doing by now besides apologizing is giving a full and detailed report of what you supposedly have achieved so far, and why you are postponing it again for 3 months after being 3 or 4 days away from the release date. The very fact that I am having to tell you this, along with your excess of optimism setting deadlines, is a big hit to your reputation and nail in ANC's coffin IMO.

reputation of an account that has 90 posts you are a funny guy

[nbrk]

I guess this is a pretty apt demonstration of anonymity curtailing responsibility. Double-edged sword to say the least. The limits of libertarianism to a fucking T.

[Skirmant]

I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.

I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.

Welp, you fucked it up. Only on the last few remaining days you realized that you need 3 extra months? That sounds like bullshit to me, or at least massively irresponsible.
The constant lying, endless delays and market manipulation has stripped Anoncoin of it's credibility and I bet you intended to create all this hype in order to have a better exit price.

I've definitely lost faith in this project..