Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[tljenson]

I know, right? I mean, I had my own venom to spit, but I deleted it all due to being associated with these simpletons. Only capable of communicating in pictographs from their chimp tableau pads, pointing grunting -- occasionally flinging about their own shit...

That's nice

[dotatbg]

Craptsy is now refusing to do anything to get their stuck TX's resolved:

Code:

<yoyo> K1773R: craptsy responded upon the request to give raw transaction to me (they had closed ticket) by their usual rambling about fixing this issue with anoncoin devs
<yoyo> damn its worse than before they dont even broadcast nor are willing to give raw transaction now
<K1773R> yoyo: you see! they refuse to do anything

They refuse to give me/us the transactions and refuse (no idea if its with intent) to broadcast the TX.
Therefore, all TX created by craptsy for ANC cannot be mined unless they change this again.

We had enough problems with Craptsy, this shows just another case of them refusing to follow the protocol or care about its customers. Please stay away for your own sake.

I received the first request for a raw transaction today. To say I have done nothing to remedy the situation is a blatant lie as I was cooperating in pm with you and the other developers.

In no way are we refusing to "Follow the protocol" We run an unmodified anoncoind and send all transactions via "sendtoaddress". Out of the 236 currencies we list. ANC is the only one with this issue

You can say its a cryptsy issue all you want. But anyone that reads the facts can see that is not the case

So you can prove it very easy. Just post a non broadcast or stuck raw transaction   Because in my test node no pending withdraw transaction with ID from my Cryptsy account

This is because anoncoind didn't relay a transaction it created following its own parameters. What is your username and/or txid

Found your username from the chatbox

No. My stuck transaction is 9d116e6876d045b622e3dfa0db354a9761a2750f0122d6e601be1ac4fb5d61da. Can you give me a raw transaction?

[dotatbg]

Code:

anoncoind gettransaction 013a84aeedfefff1c2ea0705ca52b0cedbb588ef2477aca3c7d392ee91cae0cc
....

Successfully broadcasted from my test node - and already confirmed

p.s. Maybe someone should donate me. 

[CookieL]

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[04:31] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> I will speak here after work tomorrow I guess, many have a lot of questions and I will reply
[04:32] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> guess something between 17-20 GMT+1

[nbrk]

Can someone give me some pointers in wrangling raw transactions from Cryptsy? At this point they're refusing to provide them. Not directly. They just refuse to talk about. All they do is throw links to this forum, and tell me they are working with the devs. What does that have to do with opening the wallet and typing a line of code to get my raw transactions?

[drAGon925]

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[04:31] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> I will speak here after work tomorrow I guess, many have a lot of questions and I will reply
[04:32] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> guess something between 17-20 GMT+1

GREAT, meeh is alive : )


I see Skaia sites don't work, I will remove "advertisment" under my msgs.

EDIT:
News deleted, troll has already announced xD

[00Smurf]

Mark, Moolah and now Paul?
The cryptogoxers are working hard

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-cryptsy-owner-paul-vernon-face-lawsuit/

Cryptsy has had that coming, they have fucked up numerous times along the way, used shoddy code, buggy systems, played loosely with customers funds.

[gnosiscameeh420]

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[04:31] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> I will speak here after work tomorrow I guess, many have a lot of questions and I will reply
[04:32] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> guess something between 17-20 GMT+1

people have questions, and you have the answers
poor people who rely on this imp
new pump can begin

[AnonCoinTwitter]

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[04:31] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> I will speak here after work tomorrow I guess, many have a lot of questions and I will reply
[04:32] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> guess something between 17-20 GMT+1

Good to hear! Hopefully he can reassure some people about the future. As Gnosis said, substantial progress has been made.

[gnosiscameeh420]

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[04:31] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> I will speak here after work tomorrow I guess, many have a lot of questions and I will reply
[04:32] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> guess something between 17-20 GMT+1

Good to hear! Hopefully he can reassure some people about the future. As Gnosis said, substantial progress has been made.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg9261351#msg9261351


You'll get stuck again

[matthewh3]

Maybe we can have a Zerocoin bitcoin sidechain eventually.  So you could go from Anoncoin to Zerocoin to Bitcoin and vice versa all in decentralised trustless way.

How would altchains merge with sidechains on a protocol level?

Altchain is a generic term that includes both altcoins and sidechains. If you mean “Can an altcoin chain be a sidechain too?” The answer is yes. You can read more about this in section “6.1 Hashpower attack resistance”, in the point “Subsidy”.

If one wanted to turn an existing altchain into a sidechain or sidechain-compatible altchain, it would need to (just like Bitcoin) either use a softfork or federated pegging. Once that is in place, it would be up to the other sidechains whether they wish to accept that altchain’s assets being moved in or not in addition to (or instead of) bitcoins. If the current altchain is also desired to accept other assets (like bitcoins) being transferred in as a parallel asset to its native altcoin, it would be easiest done as a hardfork.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sidechains-bitcoin-2-0-revolution-highlights-reddit-ama/

[n00n]

I've been working on a new anoncoin.net.

The new site is an one page only with as little text as possible, referring to the wiki for details and social media or forums for news.

I see you laugh much n00n.
How many months or years you need to release a simple one page site?
Other coins like DRK, SDC or more have concretized real projects and services in only few months.
ANC was created 16 months ago and since nothing concrete has been done. The "devs" have not even been able to do a simple update of the wallet based on new litecoin versions (fork).
ANC users are still using an old litecoin fork full of bugs and you laugh n00n. Shame on you little boy.

the post with the noise-to-signal ratio smiley you are quoting were deleted by a mod:

"A reply of yours, ..., was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted."

thats really funny

to answer to the statements that should have been formulated as questions:
the logo was designed by me and chosen by the devs.
the homepage is done, just not published by the devs.

[drAGon925]

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[04:31] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> I will speak here after work tomorrow I guess, many have a lot of questions and I will reply
[04:32] <theRelay_> <Meeh@I2P> guess something between 17-20 GMT+1

Good to hear! Hopefully he can reassure some people about the future. As Gnosis said, substantial progress has been made.

Hi,  do you know is that today, or tomorrow? 

I'm waiting for him for hours I have to go pee! 

Cryptsy is down??

[blahcoin]

Here is a roadmap how to scoop anc up from the abortion clinic floor and bring it back to life.

1) Focus on politics exclusively.
2) Implement the best algorithm available at a particular time.
3) Avoid the idiot game of building the coin around any algorithm or person or goal.

With just this anc could be at us$20 per coin in a few months.

Good roadmap if ANC had a community. The facts are ANC have only pump/dumpers and few sheep.

1) ANC have no focus since 16 months. Even the initial focus with the Guy Fawkes logo have been removed by "investors".
2) Devs already promised to change the algorithm and the flawed KGW but until now nothing concrete. They seems to be only competent to do promises and delay.
3) Impossible to change that. Since months, Anoncoin is built on Zerocoin scam and Gnosis promises.

At this point there are two paths between which any coin can choose.

The path of promising features is an endless circlejerk. One promises x feature. Another improves it so people jump. etc.

The path of promoting some developing value or some growing political force is the path that has proven successful so far but people often misinterpret the reasons for a coins popularity and miss this.

Bitcoin is popular for political reasons, not because of the features offered by ecurrency. There were digital currencies long before bitcoin but they had no traction until after the economic meltdown became visible post 2007 2008.

If you want to sabotage a coin promote it for its features. Or worse, promote it for a feature that is guaranteed to have huge holes like zerocoin.

If you want a coin to succeed attach it to a developing value system that history suggests will succeed.

If isis, the islamic state, issued a coin today, and they will issue one eventually, it would reach a billion usd capitalization before any of the other btc followers.

There is no coin that is positioned to do that right now except anc but it has to shift from morons chasing features to sensible folk promoting something real.

Right now btc is #1.
Soon isis coin, whatever they call it, will be #2.
And anc what? Chasing retardation? Why?

[mateamargo]

Cryptsy CHAT (right now)

user  A --> @NetworkAdmin:@Mullick:
i know that you guys have your hand full already but are there any ETA for the Anon wallet being back online?

NetworkAdmin --> user A
I am under the understanding that it is an issue the developers are working to resolve? I don't track the status though.

user A --> @NetworkAdmin:
Ok just wondering because the coin can stll be mined

user B --> @NetworkAdmin @user A:
cex.io and BTC38 work fine with ANC. It's a CRYPTSY problem. No Blockchain problem. No anc Devs problem

Mullick --> user B:
It is an NC problem admitted by the developers themselves. BTC#* admitted up to 2 day delays on anc withdrawals. Its an ANC problem NOT a Cryptsy problem

Mullick --> user B:
Out of the 238 daemons i manage. Only ANC has this issue

user B --> @Mullick:
you can go BTC38 and withraw by yourself. So this way may be you can trustme

[entertheabyss]

Cryptsy CHAT (right now)

user  A --> @NetworkAdmin:@Mullick:
i know that you guys have your hand full already but are there any ETA for the Anon wallet being back online?

NetworkAdmin --> user A
I am under the understanding that it is an issue the developers are working to resolve? I don't track the status though.

user A --> @NetworkAdmin:
Ok just wondering because the coin can stll be mined

user B --> @NetworkAdmin @user A:
cex.io and BTC38 work fine with ANC. It's a CRYPTSY problem. No Blockchain problem. No anc Devs problem

Mullick --> user B:
It is an NC problem admitted by the developers themselves. BTC#* admitted up to 2 day delays on anc withdrawals. Its an ANC problem NOT a Cryptsy problem

Mullick --> user B:
Out of the 238 daemons i manage. Only ANC has this issue

user B --> @Mullick:
you can go BTC38 and withraw by yourself. So this way may be you can trustme

is this on freenode?

[mateamargo]

No.
This is CRYPTSY CHAT. Inside Cryptsy
between users and cryptsy hi staff (system admin and wallets admin)

[nbrk]

This is what I got from the crypsy chatroom:

"Mullick told me that he will put online ANC blockchain explorer today and use it as a node for all ANC transactions including stucked ones"

So apparently, from that garbled mess, that means Mullick is on the job? Because I messaged him two days ago on the bitcointalk account -- asking if he could get the raw transactions -- and I haven't heard anything back from him since.

The cryptsy saga continues.

Meanwhile they have stopped replying to my open ticket thread.

[mateamargo]

Mullick say me (about 10 minutes ago) that It's an ANC problem NOT a Cryptsy problem

This smells very bad

[nbrk]

How is that game over? Can you actually read? Go back to your goddamned bonobo lexigram chart and try again.