[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread

[Stuartuk]

try and dispute my arguments instead.

lol you haven't got an argument, you have been repeating the same old shit for 3 or 4 days now. You are acting like a cunt so that's how you will be treated by me. Haven't you noticed that no one is interested in your constant shit?! Take it elsewhere. As you didn't get it first time - f@ck off.

[N_S]

He's not entirely wrong. ActM is not looking great at the moment. And even as someone who sees ActM positively, things aren't boding well.

I foresee a drop into the 0.002X range and perhaps some stability back down around IPO price (not original IPO). I don't think we'll see 0.001X, but who knows.

The problem is communication. We're likely not going to hear a peep next week regarding anything eASIC or Avalon refund related. And that lack of consistent communication has by far been my biggest complaint with ActM.

I don't think it's FUD if it's reality.

[Stuartuk]

He's not entirely wrong. ActM is not looking great at the moment. And even as someone who sees ActM positively, things aren't boding well.

I don't think it's FUD if it's reality.

I don't care if he's completely right, fact is he's being a really annoying prick and has been playing the same record for days like a spoilt little brat. There is only so much of that you can take isn't there?

lol it's not FUD to say price is going to .002?! OK, well with respect I would ask if that isn't FUD then what is?
Personally I'm not bothered where it goes short term as I'm holding for the long haul and buying the dips (whenever I have funds available) so the lower the better. But to say it's going down another 40% is spreading FUD - unless you know for sure that it is. And no one knows that do they?

[N_S]

Zefir received his refunds for batches 6,7, and 8.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg3066627#msg3066627

ActM has too many whales invested for it to go below 0.0025 (That is what is "Guaranteed" before Ken takes his shares.)

It might float around that as worst but anytime it goes below, someone will eat them up and just add to their stockpile.

What's so great about this stock right now is that it's like a rubberband, with any mention of good news the price bounces right back to 0.005+ even without chips in hand.

While I don't entirely disagree with you, I think any rebound back to 0.005 will be temporary if not immediately corrected.

Personally, I don't think it'd be a bad idea to sell at 0.0035 as a drop into 0.002X seems just about inevitable. The timeline associated with even a best case scenario places any substantial milestone weeks down the line. Hell, we go a few days with little to no news, and the price drops.

[Mabsark]

Good news everyone, we're not going to have any chips from eASIC till November. Let the price rise commence.

[Stuartuk]

Personally, I don't think it'd be a bad idea to sell at 0.0035 as a drop into 0.002X seems just about inevitable.

It's a strategy sure but that is risky without doubt. Buying the lows is a far safer bet, if not almost risk free  (as we know this is safe long term) but selling at what could be the bottom is like I said, risky.  

[Mabsark]

He's not entirely wrong. ActM is not looking great at the moment. And even as someone who sees ActM positively, things aren't boding well.

I don't think it's FUD if it's reality.

I don't care if he's completely right, fact is he's being a really annoying prick and has been playing the same record for days like a spoilt little brat. There is only so much of that you can take isn't there?

lol it's not FUD to say price is going to .002?! OK, well with respect I would ask if that isn't FUD then what is?
Personally I'm not bothered where it goes short term as I'm holding for the long haul and buying the dips (whenever I have funds available) so the lower the better. But to say it's going down another 40% is spreading FUD - unless you know for sure that it is. And no one knows that do they?

Is somebody forcing you to read the words I type? You're the one acting like a spoilt little brat, whining because you can't get your own way (me fucking off). I'm going nowhere, and was here way before you. Perhaps you should fuck off and go and cry in a corner. At least then you won't have to watch the share price plummet.

[N_S]

It's a strategy sure but that is risky without doubt. Buying the lows is a far safer bet, if not almost risk free  (as we know this is safe long term) but selling at what could be the bottom is like I said, risky.  

But that's my point, or at least the foundation to my point - it appears the drop to the 0.002X is inevitable. After all, we have a long way to any substantial news. Sure we'll probably hear from Ken & Co. sometime soon (although very unlikely it'll be this week), but it won't be anything that substantially moves the price.

[steveioio]

It's a strategy sure but that is risky without doubt. Buying the lows is a far safer bet, if not almost risk free  (as we know this is safe long term) but selling at what could be the bottom is like I said, risky.  

But that's my point, or at least the foundation to my point - it appears the drop to the 0.002X is inevitable.

I wouldn't agree that your drop appears inevitable.... Tomorrow we should hear something from PR. That could do a few things, it could throw a spanner in the works of your prediction or possibly not. So this is where I see the uncertainty and so would argue tha selling around this time is risky. If you must do it, be clear about how you will get back in.

[Stuartuk]

Is somebody forcing you to read the words I type?

I think I heard something? Um maybe not?

btw can you watch you language - children could be reading this.

[Stuartuk]

But that's my point, or at least the foundation to my point - it appears the drop to the 0.002X is inevitable. After all, we have a long way to any substantial news. Sure we'll probably hear from Ken & Co. sometime soon (although very unlikely it'll be this week), but it won't be anything that substantially moves the price.

I still think it is not the best idea. News tomorrow? Who really knows? Big or small news? Again, who knows?

According to PR this NDA issue is going to be tackled this week. So there will be some news either the NDA is cancelled or not - we might get a future date when the news will be released?

[N_S]

I wouldn't agree that your drop appears inevitable.... Tomorrow we should hear something from PR. That could do a few things, it could throw a spanner in the works of your prediction or possibly not. So this is where I see the uncertainty and so would argue tha selling around this time is risky. If you must do it, be clear about how you will get back in.

If we're being honest, communication isn't ActM's strong point. Sure, we may hear something from PR tomorrow, but it's likely not to be anything substantial. We still have this NDA to contend with, we haven't a clue where we stand on development, where the Avalon refund stands, etc.

It may not, but I'd contend it's fairly safe to say we'll see 0.002X

[Mabsark]

But that's my point, or at least the foundation to my point - it appears the drop to the 0.002X is inevitable. After all, we have a long way to any substantial news. Sure we'll probably hear from Ken & Co. sometime soon (although very unlikely it'll be this week), but it won't be anything that substantially moves the price.

I still think it is not the best idea. News tomorrow? Who really knows? Big or small news? Again, who knows?

According to PR this NDA issue is going to be tackled this week. So there will be some news either the NDA is cancelled or not - we might get a future date when the news will be released?

So what if there is news tomorrow? From Ken's own estimations, posted in the second post in this thread, samples will take 9 weeks after the NRE costs are paid. That puts the earliest date for the arrival of samples about October 10th, assuming the NRE costs were paid at the beginning of August. It's going to take time to turn those sample into miners.

So what do you expect to happen if Ken makes a post confirming that a small amount of hashing power will come online in November?

[Stuartuk]

Fair enough NS time will tell but it could shoot up quickly from there if long term holders have the funds to buy. So when you are out, don't go for a long pee.

[kleeck]

But that's my point, or at least the foundation to my point - it appears the drop to the 0.002X is inevitable. After all, we have a long way to any substantial news. Sure we'll probably hear from Ken & Co. sometime soon (although very unlikely it'll be this week), but it won't be anything that substantially moves the price.

I still think it is not the best idea. News tomorrow? Who really knows? Big or small news? Again, who knows?

According to PR this NDA issue is going to be tackled this week. So there will be some news either the NDA is cancelled or not - we might get a future date when the news will be released?

So what if there is news tomorrow? From Ken's own estimations, posted in the second post in this thread, samples will take 9 weeks after the NRE costs are paid. That puts the earliest date for the arrival of samples about October 10th, assuming the NRE costs were paid at the beginning of August. It's going to take time to turn those sample into miners.

So what do you expect to happen if Ken makes a post confirming that a small amount of hashing power will come online in November?

I've twice explained how your timeline could be off using more up-to-date information provided by Ken. I believe Vbs also chimed in regarding your "estimate". At this point you are spamming.

[Stuartuk]

NabSark I've no intention of discussing anything with you least of all share price reaction to news so that you can in some way profit from it - or save your stinking ass.

you are OUT of ACtM. Get over it. OUT.

You are so shiting your pants incase this goes against you. lol ha ha ha. Have a peaceful nights sleep. lol lol lol

[zumzero]

NabSark I've no intention of discussing anything with you least of all share price reaction to news so that you can in some way profit from it - or save your stinking ass.

you are OUT of ACtM. Get over it. OUT.

You are so shiting your pants incase this goes against you. lol ha ha ha. Have a peaceful nights sleep. lol lol lol

If Mab is indeed to follow the strategy he's barking on about every 2 mins, then he is in for a rude awakening.

The price for ActM stock will jump to 0.0055 the next time we get a snippet of info from PR.  This will be within three days I reckon.

Full disclosure following the lifting of the NDA will push the share price up to 0.012 within 12 hours and after that the share price will continue its upward trajectory when we start to see real publicity.  

Mab will be so left behind, and I really hope this happens.  Not because I don't want to see him do well, but because he is so unwelcome on this thread due to his unreasonable behaviour when he knows what he's doing is simply wrong.

[Mabsark]

But that's my point, or at least the foundation to my point - it appears the drop to the 0.002X is inevitable. After all, we have a long way to any substantial news. Sure we'll probably hear from Ken & Co. sometime soon (although very unlikely it'll be this week), but it won't be anything that substantially moves the price.

I still think it is not the best idea. News tomorrow? Who really knows? Big or small news? Again, who knows?

According to PR this NDA issue is going to be tackled this week. So there will be some news either the NDA is cancelled or not - we might get a future date when the news will be released?

So what if there is news tomorrow? From Ken's own estimations, posted in the second post in this thread, samples will take 9 weeks after the NRE costs are paid. That puts the earliest date for the arrival of samples about October 10th, assuming the NRE costs were paid at the beginning of August. It's going to take time to turn those sample into miners.

So what do you expect to happen if Ken makes a post confirming that a small amount of hashing power will come online in November?

I've twice explained how your timeline could be off using more up-to-date information provided by Ken. I believe Vbs also chimed in regarding your "estimate". At this point you are spamming.

Then show us your estimate and vbs' estimate. Last I checked, it was the pretty much the same as mine. Early-mid October for samples.

[Mabsark]

NabSark I've no intention of discussing anything with you least of all share price reaction to news so that you can in some way profit from it - or save your stinking ass.

you are OUT of ACtM. Get over it. OUT.

You are so shiting your pants incase this goes against you. lol ha ha ha. Have a peaceful nights sleep. lol lol lol

If Mab is indeed to follow the strategy he's barking on about every 2 mins, then he is in for a rude awakening.

The price for ActM stock will jump to 0.0055 the next time we get a snippet of info from PR.  This will be within three days I reckon.

Full disclosure following the lifting of the NDA will push the share price up to 0.012 within 12 hours and after that the share price will continue its upward trajectory when we start to see real publicity.  

Mab will be so left behind, and I really hope this happens.  Not because I don't want to see him do well, but because he is so unwelcome on this thread due to his unreasonable behaviour when he knows what he's doing is simply wrong.

0.012 BTC from just 430 GH/s with nothing else to show for the next 6 weeks? What then will be Labcoin's price from 4 Th/s coming online in the next 7 days with 50 Th/s to follow in 6 weeks? 0.1 BTC? That's pure delusion. Neither LC nor ActM  will see those prices in the next week.

[freedomno1]

How long is the NDA duration not sure how long ago that was discussed.