[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[Max Guevara]

I looked at some code of x11, x13, x15 coins, and I can say this code is often based on bitcoin 0.6.x or similar. It is very hard for me to compile on Windows.

Latest official version of Quark is based on bitcoin 0.8.3.x and can be compiled very easy compiled on Windows. Same for Litecoin 0.8.x.

Newest next version of Quark will be based on bitcoin v0.9.x.x and already now you can compile for Windows at the easiest way.

I am very close to conclude that many x11, x13, x15 coins are improved with many fancy things, but they are based on very old bitcoin code v0.6.x no matter how they artificially risen version number. It means it will be very hard to maintain it or developed it on the right way.

I am fresh in researching this.

Can someone confirm me if I am right?   For Windows only.

Thanks for recognising this.

The Bitcoin 0.9.x code base is much cleaner and easier to work with as a developer than for example 0.6.x.

A lot of changes has gone into "the insides" for Bitcoin 0.9.x and this is not always apparent to end users.

This is why my current priority is to upgrade the code base to Bitcoin 0.9.x. Few people seem to recognise that this is a big undertaking, especially with a coin like Quark that has many deviations from the Bitcoin code base.

The current code is here: http://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark092

It is close to being ready for merging into the main Quark code base.

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[digitalindustry]

When is the next code update coming for Quark?  I'm wondering if devs are planning any surprises.  This would be a good time I think.  

Good luck!

Won't ever happen, the main dev said he has no time for it. It's basically just kolin atm with his wishful thinking

Sad to hear that.  I would think with the huge run quark had last year the devs would have plenty of funds to pay for a lot of top notch updates.  Well, I'll be watching just in case.

these are our resident trolls for them everything is always bad - and we need "superblocz" inflation to "fix" quark -

you can look at their constant presences as bullish.

[digitalindustry]

I looked at some code of x11, x13, x15 coins, and I can say this code is often based on bitcoin 0.6.x or similar. It is very hard for me to compile on Windows.

Latest official version of Quark is based on bitcoin 0.8.3.x and can be compiled very easy compiled on Windows. Same for Litecoin 0.8.x.

Newest next version of Quark will be based on bitcoin v0.9.x.x and already now you can compile for Windows at the easiest way.

I am very close to conclude that many x11, x13, x15 coins are improved with many fancy things, but they are based on very old bitcoin code v0.6.x no matter how they artificially risen version number. It means it will be very hard to maintain it or developed it on the right way.

I am fresh in researching this.

Can someone confirm me if I am right?   For Windows only.

Thanks for recognising this.

The Bitcoin 0.9.x code base is much cleaner and easier to work with as a developer than for example 0.6.x.

A lot of changes has gone into "the insides" for Bitcoin 0.9.x and this is not always apparent to end users.

This is why my current priority is to upgrade the code base to Bitcoin 0.9.x. Few people seem to recognise that this is a big undertaking, especially with a coin like Quark that has many deviations from the Bitcoin code base.

The current code is here: http://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark092

It is close to being ready for merging into the main Quark code base.

you are a legend Max and we certainly recognize your work - i think you may have become more weary of our troll friends (but cant speak for you certainly) that attached themselves to us all those months ago (as soon as they recognized the Quark superior fundamentals ) - which are largely of course attributed to yourself.

I will work in future to hope that we can make your continued work have much more return. 

we are grateful.

[maok]

although if there is a large perception of low hash a merge mine is a possible solution while keeping all Quark paramaters intact.

also the C bloc solution should be tried - ( this is not inflationary and totally voluntary )

yes Maok the inflation is retarded, its retarded today, it will be retarded tomorrow and in 1000 years it will still be retarded.

Guess what, Quark is already inflationary, adding 0.05-0.1% inflation for incentivising regular people to keep their wallet open is a proposed solution to increase the health of Quark. Stop insulting other quarkers with your constant trolling on this subject. You don't like the lotto reward solution fine, argue with it from the economic perspective, tell us why adding 0.1% inflation p.a. would be a wrong solution and lets move on.

[reRaise]

When is the next code update coming for Quark?  I'm wondering if devs are planning any surprises.  This would be a good time I think.  

Good luck!

Won't ever happen, the main dev said he has no time for it. It's basically just kolin atm with his wishful thinking

Sad to hear that.  I would think with the huge run quark had last year the devs would have plenty of funds to pay for a lot of top notch updates.  Well, I'll be watching just in case.

these are our resident trolls for them everything is always bad - and we need "superblocz" inflation to "fix" quark -

you can look at their constant presences as bullish.

No i was a long time believer and backer of quark against trolls actually, see my post history. Unfortunately irresponsible lowlife trolls like you who went on a provoking and ranting rally have ruined quarks name. Majority of the community agrees with me and decided to leave because they couldn't work with an immature moron. I don't know how this troll showed up and started to steer quark back then, maxguevera should have known who he is dealing with before working with this guy. Halve the time i can't get my head around what he is talking about.

[maok]

When is the next code update coming for Quark?  I'm wondering if devs are planning any surprises.  This would be a good time I think.  

Good luck!

Won't ever happen, the main dev said he has no time for it. It's basically just kolin atm with his wishful thinking

Sad to hear that.  I would think with the huge run quark had last year the devs would have plenty of funds to pay for a lot of top notch updates.  Well, I'll be watching just in case.

these are our resident trolls for them everything is always bad - and we need "superblocz" inflation to "fix" quark -

you can look at their constant presences as bullish.

No i was a long time believer and backer of quark against trolls actually, see my post history. Unfortunately irresponsible lowlife trolls like you who went on a provoking and ranting rally have ruined quarks name. Majority of the community agrees with me and decided to leave because they couldn't work with an immature moron. I don't know how this troll showed up and started to steer quark back then, maxguevera should have known who he is dealing with before working with this guy. Halve the time i can't get my head around what he is talking about.

Some would argue that his solution of merge mining with a fresh new coin is retarded. Why would someone want to mine a new coin to help Quark instead of mining Quark directly. If the merge mining would happen for a coin with an already established strong community then yes that would be fantastic but for a fresh new coin its clearly meant to undermine Quark position. Same goes for his C block solution in which he relies on voluntarism !! You hear that ? In a financial and brutal economic environment in which we live he relies on voluntarism 

[reRaise]

When is the next code update coming for Quark?  I'm wondering if devs are planning any surprises.  This would be a good time I think.  

Good luck!

Won't ever happen, the main dev said he has no time for it. It's basically just kolin atm with his wishful thinking

Sad to hear that.  I would think with the huge run quark had last year the devs would have plenty of funds to pay for a lot of top notch updates.  Well, I'll be watching just in case.

these are our resident trolls for them everything is always bad - and we need "superblocz" inflation to "fix" quark -

you can look at their constant presences as bullish.

No i was a long time believer and backer of quark against trolls actually, see my post history. Unfortunately irresponsible lowlife trolls like you who went on a provoking and ranting rally have ruined quarks name. Majority of the community agrees with me and decided to leave because they couldn't work with an immature moron. I don't know how this troll showed up and started to steer quark back then, maxguevera should have known who he is dealing with before working with this guy. Halve the time i can't get my head around what he is talking about.

Some would argue that his solution of merge mining with a fresh new coin is retarded. Why would someone want to mine a new coin to help Quark instead of mining Quark directly. If the merge mining would happen for a coin with an already established strong community then yes that would be fantastic but for a fresh new coin its clearly meant to undermine Quark position. Same goes for his C block solution in which he relies on voluntarism !! You hear that ? In a financial and brutal economic environment in which we live he relies on voluntarism  

Sounds legit..

[digitalindustry]

When is the next code update coming for Quark?  I'm wondering if devs are planning any surprises.  This would be a good time I think.  

Good luck!

Won't ever happen, the main dev said he has no time for it. It's basically just kolin atm with his wishful thinking

Sad to hear that.  I would think with the huge run quark had last year the devs would have plenty of funds to pay for a lot of top notch updates.  Well, I'll be watching just in case.

these are our resident trolls for them everything is always bad - and we need "superblocz" inflation to "fix" quark -

you can look at their constant presences as bullish.

No i was a long time believer and backer of quark against trolls actually, see my post history. Unfortunately irresponsible lowlife trolls like you who went on a provoking and ranting rally have ruined quarks name. Majority of the community agrees with me and decided to leave because they couldn't work with an immature moron. I don't know how this troll showed up and started to steer quark back then, maxguevera should have known who he is dealing with before working with this guy. Halve the time i can't get my head around what he is talking about.

well then this is just a matter of the A B group tiers you are a Group A miner that still liked Quark because  you are in for the original mining profit then the "quick" profit - where as Group B tier see a slow accumulation and an eventual hedge against possible (probable) Fiat destruction.

see its simple - you are looking at the 15 min chart they are looking at the month by month chart -

inflation is bad because:

1. it devalues both the trust and investment of the original investors -

2. It won't work, it won't lift hash, i'm sorry for saying "retarded" but  i thought that was obvious - because if inflation hurts trust and confidence and erodes the price,  hash will drop not rise.

Quark does not exist solely for mindless profit miners, it si a balance of Mining; investment; use and hedge.

3. The EQ reward is a 0.4~ % that drops in % over time its essentially a fixed system it needs no adjustment.

Summary

it won't work.

that's so obvious that I misunderstood you for trolling sorry about that - this is a group A forum so that makes sense.

C Bloc

1. Does everything that the above does but with no inflation.

2. lets people have control and see a result - (in other words it's engaging)  

example let say in a 30 day period - people donate say 10,000 Quark and then this get advertised around and becomes known then if this lifts hash, the people that  donated can see the result of their donation they know that they helped the network.

3. there is no risk if it doesn't work, nothing changes as it does not affect the core parameters in any way.

[reRaise]

When is the next code update coming for Quark?  I'm wondering if devs are planning any surprises.  This would be a good time I think.  

Good luck!

Won't ever happen, the main dev said he has no time for it. It's basically just kolin atm with his wishful thinking

Sad to hear that.  I would think with the huge run quark had last year the devs would have plenty of funds to pay for a lot of top notch updates.  Well, I'll be watching just in case.

these are our resident trolls for them everything is always bad - and we need "superblocz" inflation to "fix" quark -

you can look at their constant presences as bullish.

No i was a long time believer and backer of quark against trolls actually, see my post history. Unfortunately irresponsible lowlife trolls like you who went on a provoking and ranting rally have ruined quarks name. Majority of the community agrees with me and decided to leave because they couldn't work with an immature moron. I don't know how this troll showed up and started to steer quark back then, maxguevera should have known who he is dealing with before working with this guy. Halve the time i can't get my head around what he is talking about.

well then this is just a matter of the A B group tiers you are a Group A miner that still liked Quark because  you are in for the original mining profit then the "quick" profit - where as Group B tier see a slow accumulation and an eventual hedge against possible (probable) Fiat destruction.

example let say in a 30 day period - people donate say 10,000 Quark and then this get advertised around and becomes known then if this lifts hash, the people that  donated can see the result of their donation they know that they helped the network.

See this is what i mean with i can't follow what you are saying, you talk puzzles and come up with these conspiracies like "destruction of fiat" and calling me an "A group miner" what are you talking about, i haven't mined quark.

Also the second part nobody will make donations to help the network, won't work like maok said as well. You guys made a mistake on the fast block halving model and are now stuck in this clusterfuck of issues.

[coinerer]

Also the second part nobody will make donations to help the network, won't work like maok said as well. You guys made a mistake on the fast block halving model and are now stuck in this clusterfuck of issues.

Last months there are so many coins with 1day-1week-1month mining. What do you think about it? 

And what do you think about big premining or big IPOs at most of the newest coins?

Some of them has very big marketcap. I think they will fall soon too.

And one example. In the code of one of the most attractive coins there are one not evan beginners mistake. Pointer to the for loop I don't know how nobody did not notice that. Or it was prevention for compiling with QT 5.3.1     CloakCoin Such attractive coin should be better.

[georgem]

I have a question about the quark brand:

http://www.qrk.cc/quarkbrand/

The font is ubuntu, right?
Or what is the exact name of this font we are using?

[reRaise]

Also the second part nobody will make donations to help the network, won't work like maok said as well. You guys made a mistake on the fast block halving model and are now stuck in this clusterfuck of issues.

Last months there are so many coins with 1day-1week-1month mining. What do you think about it?  

And what do you think about big premining or big IPOs at most of the newest coins?

Some of them has very big marketcap. I think they will fall soon too.

And one example. In the code of one of the most attractive coins there are one not evan beginners mistake. Pointer to the for loop I don't know how nobody did not notice that. Or it was prevention for compiling with QT 5.3.1    CloakCoin Such attractive coin should be better.

Those short period mining coins switch to pos so they don't have quarks issue and ipo's i don't like them much are scammy.

[maok]

I have a question about the quark brand:

http://www.qrk.cc/quarkbrand/

The font is ubuntu, right?
Or what is the exact name of this font we are using?

yes Ubuntu

[coinerer]

Also the second part nobody will make donations to help the network, won't work like maok said as well. You guys made a mistake on the fast block halving model and are now stuck in this clusterfuck of issues.

Last months there are so many coins with 1day-1week-1month mining. What do you think about it?  

And what do you think about big premining or big IPOs at most of the newest coins?

Some of them has very big marketcap. I think they will fall soon too.

And one example. In the code of one of the most attractive coins there are one not evan beginners mistake. Pointer to the for loop I don't know how nobody did not notice that. Or it was prevention for compiling with QT 5.3.1    CloakCoin Such attractive coin should be better.

Those short period mining coins switch to pos so they don't have quarks issue and ipo's i don't like them much are scammy.

Many times I read about problems with pos coin. How dangerous POS problems could be for the Quark security?

Is there POS with nonexponential, linear behaviour in some of coins? Fixed amount of newly added coins per every year.

[georgem]

Thanks maok.

I have another question regarding mining.
So at the moment I am setting up a few raspberry pi with USB antminers... to support all the sha-256 coins I own.

Very cheap, very efficient.

So, I was thinking... what's the most basic cheap and efficient method to mine quark these days?
And I am not talking about profitability. I don't care if I don't mine much quark.
I just want to help quark hashrate with as little energy and setup costs as possible.

I am just looking for the minimum price to recieve maximum efficiency, much like the raspberry ANTminer setup (which cost me about 50 $ total to setup)

I am talking about helping the networks hashrate (and therefor securing my qrk holdings).
If everybody who owns QRK would also mine QRK a tiny little, then we would have a much better hashrate.

[WillowRosenberg]

Thanks maok.

I have another question regarding mining.
So at the moment I am setting up a few raspberry pi with USB antminers... to support all the sha-256 coins I own.

Very cheap, very efficient.

So, I was thinking... what's the most basic cheap and efficient method to mine quark these days?
And I am not talking about profitability. I don't care if I don't mine much quark.
I just want to help quark hashrate with as little energy and setup costs as possible.

I am just looking for the minimum price to recieve maximum efficiency, much like the raspberry ANTminer setup (which cost me about 50 $ total to setup)

I am talking about helping the networks hashrate (and therefor securing my qrk holdings).
If everybody who owns QRK would also mine QRK a tiny little, then we would have a much better hashrate.

lol, it would be great to see Quark hashing on a Raspberry Pi. They use less than 5W power, so it might be viable, I haven't done the math.

[maok]

So at the moment I am setting up a few raspberry pi with USB antminers... to support all the sha-256 coins I own.

Very cheap, very efficient.

So, I was thinking... what's the most basic cheap and efficient method to mine quark these days?

I am just looking for the minimum price to recieve maximum efficiency, much like the raspberry ANTminer setup (which cost me about 50 $ total to setup)

I wish to find that out also, Im currently mining using one of my servers and also my PC but as an efficient/cheap method I really have no idea.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Looks like the price is bouncing back some today.  Bummer, I was hoping one more down day so I could average down.  Well, if that was the bottom that would be a good thing too - alts need to rebound eventually.

[georgem]

I just saw a dead link.

It concernes the android wallet that is mentioned in the first post of this thread:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.quarkcoin.wallet

if you follow this link, it will lead to the google play and there in the infos it will show a github link that is dead:
https://github.com/HashEngineering/Quark-wallet

Can someone fix that?

Am not gonna install a wallet without inspecting code first. Thanks.

[maok]

@georgem see here https://github.com/HashEngineering/quarkcoin-wallet