[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[Mikolo]

Can you advice me stratum proxy for quark? I'm using currently https://github.com/gritche70/Stratum-mining-proxy-quark, but I can't figure out how to setup it for quark. There is only doublesha and scrypt algos.

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[maok]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin. The major difference and improvement of Quark is that due to its inflationary model and constant rewards, the late Quark adopters are not so unfair treated like the late Bitcoin adopters.

[Netnox]

why does gold have any value at all - do you use gold for things?


Gold is a chunk of metal - silver is used in electronics , Quark is a free market crypto, they all hedge against zany Corporate issued pieces of paper.

that's all the marketing you need.

You need to educate more on gold, it is used in a lot of things beside blings, like electronics, microcomputers, space satellites, it's a good conductor and doesn't oxidise much and doesn't discolour.

[digitalindustry]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

LOL

yeah Blackcoins distribution is the best on the market as well ! - and i think NXT has 20 NXT spread across 200 million addresses right?

  : D

you think anyones buying that?

i mean go right ahead ha ha ...

[niothor]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin.

1)  why should they join when at most 100 poeple control the majority of coins.
This is a big no for any attempt to switch to POS also.
2) If the top guys won't sell distribution won't be spread. And you can't force them to do so.

And ... 10 000 users of what? You mean holders as there is nothing you can really do with quarks.
Also the 2 mils for bitcoin is exaggerated  doubt there are more than 200 000 to 300 000.

[digitalindustry]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin.

1)  why should they join when at most 100 poeple control the majority of coins.
This is a big no for any attempt to switch to POS also.
2) If the top guys won't sell distribution won't be spread. And you can't force them to do so.

And ... 10 000 users of what? You mean holders as there is nothing you can really do with quarks.
Also the 2 mils for bitcoin is exaggerated  doubt there are more than 200 000 to 300 000.

as of course opposed to the maybe 70 people that own most of the Bitcoin that exist and conveniently split them up into 1000's of wallets?

dude this is Bitcointalk you are not "Memeing" anyone here - maybe some intellectually disabled.  (no comments)

you need to spin this shit on CNN or Twitter where tards believe it??

[maok]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin.

1)  why should they join when at most 100 poeple control the majority of coins.
This is a big no for any attempt to switch to POS.
2) If the top guys won't sell distribution won't be spread. And you can't force them to do so.

And ... 10 000 users of what? You mean holders as there is nothing you can really do with quarks.
Also the 2 mils for bitcoin is exaggerated  doubt there are more than 200 000 to 300 000.

Exaggerated ? There are more than 2 mils purses on blockchain.info alone!! If you take the rest of the big companies like coinbase, bitpay, etc. there are well more than 2 millions users, active users ? well on a daily basis there are about 60-70K transactions, so there you go.

Why should they join Quark ? There are a lot of reasons, read here: http://quarktalk.cc/resources/quark-en.6/, scroll down to "Quark advantages"

I own about 150K Quark, there are many others like myself, and there are only couple which own more than 1 million. This is initial phase just like Bitcoin has gone through, when Wink brothers joined Bitcoin and fueled the price to $100 they owned more than 1% of entire btcs. In Quark the only ones who own more than 1%(2,5Mils) are the exchanges and probably 1-2 major investors.

Like I said the great thing about Quark is that the late adopters still have good buying opportunities, unlike bitcoin late adopters.

[digitalindustry]

I think a fair price for Bitcoin is between :

$15 ~ $20 upon which the market can determine its price.

but with its being  "Blakcoined and NXT'd" that's really not going to happen and it might just fade away...

it depends on the power of "Corporate media"

[maok]

I think a fair price for Bitcoin is between :

$15 ~ $20 upon which the market can determine its price.

but with its being  "Blakcoined and NXT'd" that's really not going to happen and it might just fade away...

it depends on the power of "Corporate media"

The news regarding Bitcoin adoption should see a fair price for bitcoin of over $1K. The forces that keep bitcoin prices down are the speculators and traders which have much small margins than they had last year.

As for Quark, we are undervalued at the moment, we have economic features better most altcoins, better than Bitcoin; we're based on the legit crypto system POW and we have security in place against double spending unlike Bitcoin; Quark has potential but that doesn't mean immediate success, the potential may remain unfulfilled eventually we don't know, but we have all the elements for any investors coming now and they educate about Quark, they will rather take a longshot on such potential.

[Netnox]

The Quark protocol is fine right now - if it needs to evolve that will happen.

it seem very robust right now

Who are you to decide anyway? Just like max said himself you don't represent quark The community and the dev decides and if you don't like that feel free to leave. An application, crypto, brand needs to keep innovating and upgrading to stay in the game, whether it's marketings wise or new features wise.

[digitalindustry]

The Quark protocol is fine right now - if it needs to evolve that will happen.

it seem very robust right now

Who are you to decide anyway? Just like max said himself you don't represent quark The community and the dev decides and if you don't like that feel free to leave. An application, crypto, brand needs to keep innovating and upgrading to stay in the game, whether it's marketings wise or new features wise.

  IT WILL BE THE ANGRY FREE MARKET  

THAT EVOLVES THE PROTOCOL  

IT WON'T BE ME

 

anger is an energy , you think?

[niothor]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin.

1)  why should they join when at most 100 poeple control the majority of coins.
This is a big no for any attempt to switch to POS.
2) If the top guys won't sell distribution won't be spread. And you can't force them to do so.

And ... 10 000 users of what? You mean holders as there is nothing you can really do with quarks.
Also the 2 mils for bitcoin is exaggerated  doubt there are more than 200 000 to 300 000.

Exaggerated ? There are more than 2 mils purses on blockchain.info alone!! If you take the rest of the big companies like coinbase, bitpay, etc. there are well more than 2 millions users, active users ? well on a daily basis there are about 60-70K transactions, so there you go.

Why should they join Quark ? There are a lot of reasons, read here: http://quarktalk.cc/resources/quark-en.6/, scroll down to "Quark advantages"

I own about 150K Quark, there are many others like myself, and there are only couple which own more than 1 million. This is initial phase just like Bitcoin has gone through, when Wink brothers joined Bitcoin and fueled the price to $100 they owned more than 1% of entire btcs. In Quark the only ones who own more than 1%(2,5Mils) are the exchanges and probably 1-2 major investors.

Like I said the great thing about Quark is that the late adopters still have good buying opportunities, unlike bitcoin late adopters.

The total number of transactions in the blockchain is 44 mils.

If we think of the 2 mils users , that would come to roughly 20 transactions per user.
Don't you think that this is very very low?
Not counting that there is a former satoshidice user who managed to do 10k bets.
Not counting all the mixers , rewards going out from mining pools , people sending their coins to storage and switching wallets.
I tracked the cons I've sent to one exchange and they did 5 transactions until the coins finally hit their storage address.


Don't forget that mt gox which people thought of it as being huge had only 90k active users that ever did a trade on it in 4 years.

[digitalindustry]

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin.

1)  why should they join when at most 100 poeple control the majority of coins.
This is a big no for any attempt to switch to POS.
2) If the top guys won't sell distribution won't be spread. And you can't force them to do so.

And ... 10 000 users of what? You mean holders as there is nothing you can really do with quarks.
Also the 2 mils for bitcoin is exaggerated  doubt there are more than 200 000 to 300 000.

Exaggerated ? There are more than 2 mils purses on blockchain.info alone!! If you take the rest of the big companies like coinbase, bitpay, etc. there are well more than 2 millions users, active users ? well on a daily basis there are about 60-70K transactions, so there you go.

Why should they join Quark ? There are a lot of reasons, read here: http://quarktalk.cc/resources/quark-en.6/, scroll down to "Quark advantages"

I own about 150K Quark, there are many others like myself, and there are only couple which own more than 1 million. This is initial phase just like Bitcoin has gone through, when Wink brothers joined Bitcoin and fueled the price to $100 they owned more than 1% of entire btcs. In Quark the only ones who own more than 1%(2,5Mils) are the exchanges and probably 1-2 major investors.

Like I said the great thing about Quark is that the late adopters still have good buying opportunities, unlike bitcoin late adopters.

The total number of transactions in the blockchain is 44 mils.

If we think of the 2 mils users , that would come to roughly 20 transactions per user.
Don't you think that this is very very low?
Not counting that there is a former satoshidice who who managed to do 10k bets.
Not counting all the mixers , rewards going out from mining pools , people sending their coins to storage and switching wallets.
I tracked the cons I've sent to one exchange and they did 5 transactions until the coins finally hit their storage address.


Don't forget that mt gox which people thought of it as being huge had only 90k active users that ever did a trade on it in 4 years.

puts it in perspective.

[niothor]

Also , a question as I'm too lazy to do the math.
At the current hashrate of the coin , how many i7 processors it will take to do a 51%?

[digitalindustry]

Also , a question as I'm too lazy to do the math.
At the current hashrate of the coin , how many i7 processors it will take to do a 51%?

as many as you like?

[maok]

The total number of transactions in the blockchain is 44 mils.

If we think of the 2 mils users , that would come to roughly 20 transactions per user.
Don't you think that this is very very low?

47 mils total transactions actually, and since janury 2014 there are 17 million transactions. That makes about ~30 transaction per day for each of those 2 millions users(as I said there are more). There are 60-70 K transactions per day, that makes about 1 transaction per second. Its not that low for a few years old technology. Quark can support this type of daily transactions much better than bitcoin.

Also , a question as I'm too lazy to do the math.
At the current hashrate of the coin , how many i7 processors it will take to do a 51%?

they can't do a 51% double spend. There is already a pool which has lots of power but all they can do is delay the transactions. Don't get me wrong, Quark needs hashrate but we don't know yet how to attract new miners in a way that we all agree.

[niothor]

The total number of transactions in the blockchain is 44 mils.

If we think of the 2 mils users , that would come to roughly 20 transactions per user.
Don't you think that this is very very low?

47 mils total transactions actually, and since janury 2014 there are 17 million transactions. That makes about ~30 transaction per day for each of those 2 millions users(as I said there are more). There are 60-70 K transactions per day, that makes about 1 transaction per second. Its not that low for a few years old technology. Quark can support this type of daily transactions much better than bitcoin.

Also , a question as I'm too lazy to do the math.
At the current hashrate of the coin , how many i7 processors it will take to do a 51%?

they can't do a 51% double spend. There is already a pool which has lots of power but all they can do is delay the transactions. Don't get me wrong, Quark needs hashrate but we don't know yet how to attract new miners in a way that we all agree.

1) Total number of transactions is 44 645 451 right now. And as i played today with the exchanges and done a few bets i manged to do 21 transactions myself just today as i count also the transactions where the exchanges and the betting sites moved the coins..

Besides number of daily transactions hasn't increased from too much from last years , just with 15% in average.

That would mean that in the last year we had just a 16-20% increase in bitcoin users?

2) Why can't they?

[maok]

1) Total number of transactions is 44 645 451 right now. And as i played today with the exchanges and done a few bets i manged to do 21 transactions myself just today as i count also the transactions where the exchanges and the betting sites moved the coins..

Besides number of daily transactions hasn't increased from too much from last years , just with 15% in average.

That would mean that in the last year we had just a 16-20% increase in bitcoin users?

2) Why can't they?

yes sorry its late, its bout 45 millions total. What are you saying, bitcoin should have visa transaction volume after just couple of years ?

They can try but because Quark devs implemented an automatic checkpoint system it verifies for double spend attacks and if one is found then some measures are applied, I don't know the technicalities because its sort of firewall so if we know how it works we can make an workaround, but most likely that bad node gets banned(read moer about banscore and bantime) and/or the block gets orphaned. The trusted node on which the checkpoints are being verified is in Max's control but I don't know exactly what measures are applied but basically Quark is protected against double spends even with a low hashrate. I have tried studying the tcp traffic and its very interesting how it works, with every node our Quark client connects we exchange info about the past checkpoints but because its binary I wasn't able to see exactly whats going on.

[maok]

be sure to register on Quark forum to ask your questions and continue discussions, good thing is that with so little activity your posts won't be buried like on this thread and you earn Quarks too, simply by logging in daily or by posting quality stuff, as more likes you posts get the more quarks you'll earn.

You can use either http://quarktalk.org/ or http://www.quarktalk.cc/

P.S. also a good thing is that with so little activity I won't have to worry about spending much quarks  . But if anyone wants to help please do so, I will use the funds solely for the forum faucet. My QRK address is in the signature. Thanks!

[Coinmama2014]

hm thought it was quarkfx design since the reddit banner is his work

no i think Quarkfx is Peter from the original forum the guys that were trying to say they were "Quark developers"  - they had to try to take over the Crypto because it was a threat to all the other price manipulated crypto - so they panicked and started to say they were "trying to help" Quark from "low hash"

they are rehashing that now and its still not working  ....

its kind of sad a pathetic really?

if Quark fx isn't "Peter" i apologize of course as it would be an insult to  call you a "retard."

THIS!!...
Is why people find your comments so disheartening (aka disgusting) Kolin- and ultimately wind up leaving altogether.

You know exactly who QuarkFX is...But you also know that most of the public (especially the new members) do not know what/who you know, which is why you make such comments...(but of course, this is your m.o.- manipulation of the public's perception.)

So, what am I talking about?
Quark FX (Peter), the one you pretend not to know... was the one you attempted to secretly pull into your B9 merge mine coin launch- to design the logo, remember? The coin you have now "reincarnated" as Mimic when the B9 was exposed for the deceptive and self serving project that it was?
 
"Mining monopoly"- your favorite term... you are sooo against this concept ( except when you propose it for yourself of course), - meanwhile (pre)mining away Mimic as we speak until rebranding it as Quark Omega...How many coins have you mined now, and what is the hashrate of this seemingly worthless coin (can someone check this)? And how many people are you offering these coins behind the scenes, anyone?
 
You lied about this project to not only the core members but the entire Quark community, stating that you were "looking for" a merge mine candidate (call to Quark clones post on Reddit and Bitcointalk), then "discovered it" as a "fairly launched" Quark algo. All the while you were/are the OP, "mimi" ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657528.msg8131261#msg8131261

Quark FX, myself, and *almost* all other members of the Core (core meaning most active) community- were not supportive of your (still ongoing) plan, because of the deceptive nature of it (social manipulation or whatever)...

Therefore, your reaction: More manipulative and deceptive comments like the above, to downgrade the importance of all the core Quark community members...calling them trolls, useless, retards, etc, etc..Until they leave, or stop contributing...Creating a clear path for your ongoing plans behind the scenes, perhaps?

But again, to clarify for everyone-
QuarkFX: Most active, helpful, and productive Quarker until less than 1 month ago...contributing countless hours of his work for free, in support of Quark, and for the spirit of community effort.

Designer of:
- the "Quarkcoin Theory" video,
- the "What does the Quark Say?" Video(such a beautiful, upbeat and helpful Quark Promo!!- **was pending release, now pulled)
- the Iceland project video,
- contributor of hours of the ZhangZhang video project at the Bitcoin Convention in China,
the Mobile wallet promo video....
- the Reddit header,
- design contributor to the mobile wallet splash screen,
- design contributor to quarktalk.org
- recently spending countless hours designing a Quark Video game, almost ready to go into BETA TESTING!!

Kolin, you claim to be a leading Quark member/educator, and yet you don't know who the main core members are- really?

...Most of the above projects, by the way, pulled now because of your most uninspiring and counterproductive contributions, Kolin.. and your most manipulative and deceptive ways, and the way you set out to destroy anyone who comes forward in opposition to you. Last but not least, the fact that Max deals with you at all...

Thus the "Proof of Burn" concept coming forth for your "reappearance" and attempt to re-gain control of the Quark community as some sort of educator/leader.



Go ahead, keep downgrading "core" contributors, and see where it leads...

First of all it leads to a downtrust rating(somewhat, but not completely worthless)- This, for my own first hand knowledge of your plans to deceive the Quark community (B9, Mimic, "quark synergy" IPO scam, etc.) because, as you say.."the community needs their hands held"?

Why did Max ever link up with you, one of the most manipulative, conflicted, and self destructive people (trolls) I have ever seen? This is not free market stuff Kolin, this is out and out manipulation-- I wish you would stop!

Secondly it leads to the recommendation that everyone should go to www.quarktalk.org for moving forward with productive conversations/contributions to Quark infrastructure and community building.