[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[maok]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439

sucks all this infighting and its a huge international joke the whole thing, its just been a big social experiment.

we'll pack it up soon and put everyone on camps !

it was just for a laugh

: D

nice but when it comes to satire no one beats The Onion!

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[georgem]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439

sucks all this infighting and its a huge international joke the whole thing, its just been a big social experiment.

we'll pack it up soon and put everyone on camps !

it was just for a laugh

: D

nice but when it comes to satire no one beats The Onion!

True, you know it is called "The Onion" since it's meant to make you laugh (or cry) tears?  

[maok]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439

sucks all this infighting and its a huge international joke the whole thing, its just been a big social experiment.

we'll pack it up soon and put everyone on camps !

it was just for a laugh

: D

nice but when it comes to satire no one beats The Onion!

True, you know it is called "The Onion" since it's meant to make you laugh (or cry) tears?  

they duly oblige, I would give them the idea of bitcoin created by the aliens and put that guy from history channel as witness on their report, that would beat this CIA satire article by miles

[digitalindustry]

onion is past its prime  - now they joke about "social media" i guess operating from a police state doesn't help?

[maok]

onion is past its prime  - now they joke about "social media" i guess operating from a police state doesn't help?

is past its prime? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgowBLb4sKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDBzQkWeQ5g :-)

and Quark related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atG3H3rTTsI skip to 1:15 

[quarkfx]

It's interesting to see how people cry that they are against and ask question that proof that they actually haven't read the document

I read the reddit, and glanced over the document.

I am not sympathetic to the whole premise, so I am probably not going to read the document in all detail when I am not even agreeing with the premise (the description of the "supposed" problem).
Therefor any proposed "solutions" don't really make sense to me.

Noone forces you into agreeing with the premise and if the concept is carried out then still noone forces you to burn tokens. This is not a fork proposal. Whoever wants to participate participates, whoever prefers to stay stays. However, if you complain about the concept you should ar least know what it is about, otherwise it makes your whole point look quite ridiculous.  

Btw. Georgem what serious business have YOU built for Quark? Instead of asking others to not waste their time with utter nonsense you should maybe do something for Quark on your own. Or have I overseen your rich contributions? Haven't seen any.

[cryptohunter]

For those who are interested in the Proof of Burn proposal that I made: You can find the Alpha Draft of the concept on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2d5521/proof_of_burn_concept_alpha_draft/

Very interesting. With a good dev team behind it i think it will be a great coin.

Are VIC and coinmama on board?

[cryptohunter]

It's interesting to see how people cry that they are against and ask question that proof that they actually haven't read the document

I read the reddit, and glanced over the document.

I am not sympathetic to the whole premise, so I am probably not going to read the document in all detail when I am not even agreeing with the premise (the description of the "supposed" problem).
Therefor any proposed "solutions" don't really make sense to me.

Your reason for "not being sympathetic to the whole premise"?

Let's start getting specific. Explain in detail exactly how this could be negative for qrk.  It seems like it could with a bit of tweaking solve a lot of qrks current issues.

QRK is regarded as a dying/dead project by most of the board.

Let's examine the POB proposal and hear from those being negative. Exactly what parts of the proposal do you not like and describe exactly how will have a negative impact.

Let's run through the entire process.


QRK as it is going now .........

QRK and the companion coin going forward........


actually just give me one good reason as a new investor here to look at qrk over the other alts with active commmunities and active development teams?

Hoping qrk will just get adopted by some big mainstream companies or some whale investor wading in for no apparent reason is not good enough. All coins are dreaming of such things.

Also how much qrk do each of you own.

To enter into discussions people should really have a reasonable steak in the coin. Who knows if half these people simply making comments even have any qrk. Some have probably sold out and want the prices driven lower to buy back in or else could be from other coin communities. We really need to establish who is really motivated to see qrk move up from here.

Either that or people need to start getting specific.

If you don't like a part of the proposal explain fully your reasoning on it so it can be fully examined.


I don't really care about the slowly maturing coins part. I see it as pointless.  You have a decent development/markerting/project managment teams showing some reason to retain you coins and you will retain them.

I do however see that we need to limit burn rate from qrk whales that give nothing back to the community.

I VERY much like the idea of taxing those that don't stake the coin.

[Netnox]

It's interesting to see how people cry that they are against and ask question that proof that they actually haven't read the document

I read the reddit, and glanced over the document.

I am not sympathetic to the whole premise, so I am probably not going to read the document in all detail when I am not even agreeing with the premise (the description of the "supposed" problem).
Therefor any proposed "solutions" don't really make sense to me.

Noone forces you into agreeing with the premise and if the concept is carried out then still noone forces you to burn tokens. This is not a fork proposal. Whoever wants to participate participates, whoever prefers to stay stays. However, if you complain about the concept you should ar least know what it is about, otherwise it makes your whole point look quite ridiculous.  

Btw. Georgem what serious business have YOU built for Quark? Instead of asking others to not waste their time with utter nonsense you should maybe do something for Quark on your own. Or have I overseen your rich contributions? Haven't seen any.

+1

Wouldn't it be more suitable to have customised % to the slow maturing coins to the amount someone is burning? If someone would burn only like 1000 tokens then he can't really shake the market with dumping and his coins are not much anyway so it would be more fair the lower the amount you burn, the less % initial phase will be or like the faster your coin will mature?

@ georgem

I think first you should read the whole concept.

Also these players are killing a crypto with their pump and dumps. It will give the coin a bad reputation where people will say it's another pump and dump, this coin is limiting the ability of these guys to ruin a coin with their scheme and it's actually the first that i've seen which has come up with a model to do this and instead aims for a steady rise with less hardcore dumping. This give the coin much more credibility imo.

If you want to dump all your coins whenever you want there are enough cryptos and i think with all these pump and dump schemes there should be space for new models like these who is adapted to these schemes.

[Netnox]

For those who are interested in the Proof of Burn proposal that I made: You can find the Alpha Draft of the concept on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2d5521/proof_of_burn_concept_alpha_draft/

Very interesting. With a good dev team behind it i think it will be a great coin.

Are VIC and coinmama on board?

One of the reason which makes this interesting.

[digitalindustry]

Second animation is like hypnotizing by heartbeats Sound is missing.

Don't force me to buy Quarks.

I'll hypnotize everybody with my GIFs to buy more quarks.
Brain programming thru the visual cortex.

i'm convinced!

[digitalindustry]

If you like this GIF, please donate any amount of QRK you like and I will create more:
http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QSWH2gfjBhvKiasJXxudHLR2JDD8Y1zTPw

[dragonseer]

If you like this GIF, please donate any amount of QRK you like and I will create more:
http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QSWH2gfjBhvKiasJXxudHLR2JDD8Y1zTPw

Nice Gif..  

I'm glad action is being taken on Quark. The way to save this coin is for the large holders, to destroy their coins via proof of burn and forfeit their digital asset so they can get a certificate on a new, unknown and untrusted alternative crypto currency. Meanwhile, if you're like me and you've stuck your head in the sand then you let people read this thread and follow whatever whacko blockchain suits their fancy, I'll boot up my Quark out of cold storage in 2017 LOL

Edit: It may not seem like I have a lot of Quark but you won't buy up to that volume without causing a ripple on an exchange that gets noted here YAY for cryptos

[digitalindustry]

Hey Pete i've got a question:

Ok so now that we all agree that you should move forward with this project, i have some question because some things don't make sense (and please don't take this the wrong way)

so now we essentially have two (2)  basic scenarios:

1 - You are just genuinely confused around how Crypto currency works, and you really believe that "democracy"  works for a monetary mechanics system.

or

2. - you are obviously (very poorly) trying to (yawn) troll Quark with this dead end project.



Now i'm firmly with number 1 and i want you to know why - :

A- you are European ? I think you are ?

B- There is no point to the Trolling as it's(if real)  so badly executed and in such wrong timing that everyone is obviously ignoring it.

C- It won't waste time or energy or distract any members as there are no members - remember you can't troll core code, this type of method needs to be used on a project that is yet to be launched . otherwise distraction serves no purpose? ??

D- It has the real potential to help Quark - as just look at the recent price drop and all the posting here (some of which is about "the burn") all this is doing is constantly bumping our topic and brining new members to our Reddit ??

E- after a point of discussing it endlessly (unless you make lots of sock puppets) most members will just ask you to make an ANN (i'll bid for you to keep it with us) (as you will be helping Quark)

and the big one:

F- You can't make it appear successful if you do ever get it off the ground, to do that you will have to do a massive IPO "Proof of Burn" then you will have to try to price manipulate the price upward to try to gain a large market Cap - but to do that you will have to build your own exchange ( basically just follow the NXT model)  - But lets see   Ripple , and now the new failure Stellar, NXT and all the other failed Crypto have tried that already.

so how do you plan to spin it into any sort of success?  


Summary

listing all the above its clear you do believe in Democracy in Monetary mechanics, and that is a beautiful thing , its also wrong in my opinion, but as i'm not 100% on anything you could be correct so I encourage this project
and will even participate in a novel and token way, but in all other respects will totally ignore it. (for the obvious failure i believe it to be)

so to be clear i'm NOT calling you a failure that would be believing you are trying to Troll ( and this is such a miserable unimaginative attempt i don't believe that is the case )

i just think you are honestly confused at how Crypto and decentralized monetary systems work.  

[digitalindustry]

If you like this GIF, please donate any amount of QRK you like and I will create more:
http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QSWH2gfjBhvKiasJXxudHLR2JDD8Y1zTPw

Nice Gif..  

I'm glad action is being taken on Quark. The way to save this coin is for the large holders, to destroy their coins via proof of burn and forfeit their digital asset so they can get a certificate on a new, unknown and untrusted alternative crypto currency. Meanwhile, if you're like me and you've stuck your head in the sand then you let people read this thread and follow whatever whacko blockchain suits their fancy, I'll boot up my Quark out of cold storage in 2017 LOL

+ 1 : D

[coinerer]

No important democracy based on money in real world.

[quarkfx]

For those who are interested in the Proof of Burn proposal that I made: You can find the Alpha Draft of the concept on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2d5521/proof_of_burn_concept_alpha_draft/

Very interesting. With a good dev team behind it i think it will be a great coin.

Are VIC and coinmama on board?

This is an individual proposal, it is nothing more than ideas and I would like to keep it this way for as long as it isn't finished. I am however talking to the people who are working on MC2 and will receive their comments on the Alpha Draft in the next few weeks. It is possible that they are not interested, it is also possible that they are interested to work with us independently from Quark. I am wxcited no matter what the answer is as I am following the project since it was quoted by fiatpete (i think it was him) some months ago.

Don't want to speak for Vic or Julie. Both know about my work and will probably comment on it once they find time.

[Netnox]

@ digitalindustry

I'm one of the devs at quark Reddit and let me show you some stats regarding our reddit traffic.

 

As you see it has basically no traffic and subscribers have not increased since months. It's always the same couple members posting and not counting sock puppets accounts which yourself have such account as well.

People have the right to chose if they want to stay or not and have the right to make their own projects, same goes for community members and investors which are tired of seeing the awful price decrease with no active development and community, so imo you have no right to criticise them.

I get the idea that some just are waiting for the "next Bitcoin bubble" that might have it's influence on quark or else without that many don't see quark rising on it's own feet. Core members gave it the benefit of the doubt once back in December but it didn't happen because you didn't really cooperated with them and again same happened with core members who came next. So the problem is not these members but something else right.

[digitalindustry]

@ digitalindustry

I'm one of the main devs at our Reddit and let me show you some stats regarding our reddit traffic.

 

As you see it has basically no traffic and subscribers have not increased since months. It's always the same couple members posting and not counting sock puppets accounts which yourself have such account as well.

People have the right to chose if they want to stay or not and have the right to make their own projects, same goes for community members and investors which are tired of seeing the awful price decrease with no active development and community, so imo you have no right to criticise them.

I get the idea that you and some others just are waiting for the "next Bitcoin bubble" that might have it's influence on quark or else without that many don't see quark rising on it's own feet. Core members gave it the benefit of the doubt once back in December but it didn't happen because you didn't really cooperated with them and again same happened with core members who came next. So the problem is not these members but something else right.

yeah, this of course is keeping with the "superblocz" retard meme...

If traffic hits equated to investment then Doge would have surpassed Bitcoin

yet its slowly working its way to 1 Sat. ( hey trust me i hope it doesn't)

your next bit - again retarded , i never said i wanted to "kick anyone" (in fact if you read it i said the opposite)  ( i want you to keep the failed project here)

next bit "Bitcoin bubble" meme - no Quark supporters are usually very independent as they have usually educated themselves around the basics of decentralized economics, so for example they understand that Quark fundamentals make sense - i.e the EQ reward the , the full distribution, the multi Algo ( and what it means for decentralization)

i've no doubt that there are pure speculators - jam the price down and it tends to become are party !

however information always distributes , never centralizes so you see what i'm saying?

i'm saying the price can go back in theory to  0.00000025  (or a fraction of a cent)  the holders will be vastly different and vastly more distributed.

( that was what my "on a string" point was about ) ( badly explained I understand) 

summary:

* I want the project here - i reserve the right to create a new Reddit, (notice i'm not telling anyone to come to it)

* as a Troll project its pathetic and backwards and you guys need to be fired (for rehashing an old dusty project) if thats the aim.

* As a genuine "Free pony" type "crypto democracy" its a fantastic and memorizing   train wreck.

[quarkfx]

@ digitalindustry

I'm one of the devs at quark Reddit and let me show you some stats regarding our reddit traffic.

 

As you see it has basically no traffic and subscribers have not increased since months. It's always the same couple members posting and not counting sock puppets accounts which yourself have such account as well.

People have the right to chose if they want to stay or not and have the right to make their own projects, same goes for community members and investors which are tired of seeing the awful price decrease with no active development and community, so imo you have no right to criticise them.

I get the idea that some just are waiting for the "next Bitcoin bubble" that might have it's influence on quark or else without that many don't see quark rising on it's own feet. Core members gave it the benefit of the doubt once back in December but it didn't happen because you didn't really cooperated with them and again same happened with core members who came next. So the problem is not these members but something else right.

Hey Netnox, this must be obviously a good development and it is of course intended and planned.  It only shows that the real boom is not far...