[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[Majormax]

I haven't checked here in a while, my God what has happened to this thread. Nothing but insults, intrigue, and people putting their faith in snake oil salesmen.

Is there anything in terms of product development still going on?

That is the way of nearly all coins. It is a well trodden path, and there is no escape unless development and innovation is continuous.

It happens much more quickly with younger coins (QRK is an 'old' coin,and took some time to get to this state), and a price decline is often the trigger. Possibly there will be a new initiative from some talented developers, but I don't see it yet.


Cooperation between communities is the future (probably merge-mining the same hashes).

If you are using "bitcointalk" as your main source of sediment, you are not well diversified.,

Diversification is my middle name.

There sure is plenty of sediment on Bitcointalk.

[HappyHogan]

Getting a huge response here for Quark - http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2ee6ed/im_the_worlds_first_decentralized_economist_ive/

Interesting read (reddit piece).

I'm gonna PM you with a question right now since it's not related to quark but I definitely wanna add some quark too after reading all that.  Thanks once again, brother!

TSsss, this is the same way currency traders and fund managers talk about themselves. Yet, over 90% only lose money. I have no faith in this guy.

This guy Digital or this guy me?

Whoever the guy is boasting about how smart he is in picking altcoins, anyone should see right through that nonsense

[digitalindustry]

I haven't checked here in a while, my God what has happened to this thread. Nothing but insults, intrigue, and people putting their faith in snake oil salesmen.

Is there anything in terms of product development still going on?

That is the way of nearly all coins. It is a well trodden path, and there is no escape unless development and innovation is continuous.

It happens much more quickly with younger coins (QRK is an 'old' coin,and took some time to get to this state), and a price decline is often the trigger. Possibly there will be a new initiative from some talented developers, but I don't see it yet.


Cooperation between communities is the future (probably merge-mining the same hashes).

If you are using "bitcointalk" as your main source of sediment, you are not well diversified.,

Diversification is my middle name.

There sure is plenty of sediment on Bitcointalk.

yes there is - but most of it relates to a scum pool of useless cheerleaders and trolls -

there are key innovators that still frequent the site.

as a "market" goes its a backwater., its the production engine of chaos, so its still very useful.

but you have to separate  your market segments.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Hi Guys,

I am selling quarkdice.com dice game along with several domains that I own.
quarkcasino.net
quarkdice.info
quarkdice.net
quarkdice.org
quarkdice.com

Please send me your offers. I can customize the dice game also.

Thanks

Dang, you cornered that market.  lol, good foresight.  I did the same for iXCoin.

Now much are you expecting to get, I'm just curious.

If quark blows up in the next few months you'll get way more money as people will have quark profits to spend. 

Good luck!

[maok]

@digitalindustry

You and your investors are some poor trolls and you don't have the buying power of a street beggar. Trying to divide quarkers with your trash talk has worked, congratulations!! But remember I know your schemes, I was made aware of all your scams attempts and if I see a similar one be sure I'll jump in to expose your dumb ass.

I suggest you stay in your bench and stop accusing others of what you already are and do. Don't you realize and see that everywhere you go people see through your false claims? We promote crpyo currencies because we want to exchange them with other people by being honest and legit with them, your strategy looks more like you want to exchange the coins with yourself aka your shill accounts. Trust me, if you continue this way bashing everyone around, you'll be the only one left using Quark.


@Vlad2Vlad

stiu ca nu ai treaba cu tampitul ala dar trebuie sa intelegi ca daca ai interes ca Quark sa creasca te rog sa nu-i mai dai apa la moara pentru ca el se foloseste de tine ca sa isi legitimizeze conturile false create, crede-ma are multe pe alte retele, d'aia te-au si acuzat multi de asta.

[cryptohunter]

I think Cryptohunters' idea of radical changes to Quark will only serve to damage Quark.  Quark algo etc is good as it is.  Quark just needs marketing and usage and a community that isn't pulling in 3 different directions.

1. Damage how? and through what process. What radical changes do you mean exactly. Explain the radical change and the process through which it would damage  qrk. I'm yet to hear one person justify this damage they assume would take place. I mean is -95% value already not reasonable damage?

2. are we going to start a new thread so we can block out people that just throw insults with no real reason or logic behind them.

3. QRK just needs...... Marketing and usage??  that is the same for EVERY coin out there. How will you motivate people to market it, how will you motivate people to use it above and beyond the other 500 alts?

"Just needs" means nothing. All coins " just need" people to buy and use it.


Only QRKfx seemed able to think through the stages and logically lay them out as some kind of coherent thought pattern that people could follow and understand. QRk tbh is probably screwed unless some decent leadership rises up takes the lead and give some direction.  I have seen ZERO solutions to problems qrks has right now from anyone.


The ROI projects are the only way forward without making some radical changes. We will need leadership and organisation to get those going.

[silvermetal]

I think Cryptohunters' idea of radical changes to Quark will only serve to damage Quark.  Quark algo etc is good as it is.  Quark just needs marketing and usage and a community that isn't pulling in 3 different directions.

1. Damage how? and through what process. What radical changes do you mean exactly. Explain the radical change and the process through which it would damage  qrk. I'm yet to hear one person justify this damage they assume would take place. I mean is -95% value already not reasonable damage?

2. are we going to start a new thread so we can block out people that just throw insults with no real reason or logic behind them.

3. QRK just needs...... Marketing and usage??  that is the same for EVERY coin out there. How will you motivate people to market it, how will you motivate people to use it above and beyond the other 500 alts?

"Just needs" means nothing. All coins " just need" people to buy and use it.


Only QRKfx seemed able to think through the stages and logically lay them out as some kind of coherent thought pattern that people could follow and understand. QRk tbh is probably screwed unless some decent leadership rises up takes the lead and give some direction.  I have seen ZERO solutions to problems qrks has right now from anyone.


The ROI projects are the only way forward without making some radical changes. We will need leadership and organisation to get those going.

Hi Crypto,

Really like your devotion! And agree on many points with you.

The insults hurts/frustrates but I know who it is saying. Personally I will not lose hope just by one person. That would be too easy. I will be the last person who sell my Quark (to be honest I bought my original Quark back after I had first sold it in an impulse few weeks back)

When I speak for myself, some wounds need to be healed, and that takes time.
For me it is like when your wife/husband cheated on you, and the next day he/she says: "come on, nothing happened we continue with our relationship just like before"
I think each one of us will process what has happened on its own way.

Before we continue (as you described) we need to clarify certain aspects first (in my opinion).

- The role of Max. He indicated that he will only maintain the protocol. Is that sufficient? Or do we need other developers? (George?)
- The seed nodes. What I understood is that it is rented for one year. What will happen after that? (Didn't James-z take care of that)? Mining with the wallet is related to the 4 seed nodes.

If that is clarified then an inventory is needed who want to help with promotion and how etc (different Quark devoted people need to be united again here (in a moderated thread) or at reddit or at the quarktalk forum or somewhere else.
- Clarification about the shaq-fu perks. (which are hold by Victor).
- A structured foundation and a leader needs to be placed (who will step forward as a leader? maok? coinmama? you? I think there is still enough potential to build something nice :-) ).

[cryptohunter]

I think Cryptohunters' idea of radical changes to Quark will only serve to damage Quark.  Quark algo etc is good as it is.  Quark just needs marketing and usage and a community that isn't pulling in 3 different directions.

1. Damage how? and through what process. What radical changes do you mean exactly. Explain the radical change and the process through which it would damage  qrk. I'm yet to hear one person justify this damage they assume would take place. I mean is -95% value already not reasonable damage?

2. are we going to start a new thread so we can block out people that just throw insults with no real reason or logic behind them.

3. QRK just needs...... Marketing and usage??  that is the same for EVERY coin out there. How will you motivate people to market it, how will you motivate people to use it above and beyond the other 500 alts?

"Just needs" means nothing. All coins " just need" people to buy and use it.


Only QRKfx seemed able to think through the stages and logically lay them out as some kind of coherent thought pattern that people could follow and understand. QRk tbh is probably screwed unless some decent leadership rises up takes the lead and give some direction.  I have seen ZERO solutions to problems qrks has right now from anyone.


The ROI projects are the only way forward without making some radical changes. We will need leadership and organisation to get those going.

Hi Crypto,

Really like your devotion! And agree on many points with you.

The insults hurts but I know who it is saying. Personally I will not lose hope just by one person. That would be too easy. I will be the last person who sell my Quark (to be honest I bought my original Quark back after I had first sold it in an impulse few weeks back)

When I speak for myself, some wounds need to be healed, and that takes time.
For me it is like when your wife/husband cheated on you, and the next day he/she says: "come on, nothing happened we continue with our relationship just like before"
I think each one of us will process what has happened on its own way.

Before we continue (as you described) we need to clarify certain aspects first (in my opinion).

- The role of Max. He indicated that he will only maintain the protocol. Is that sufficient? Or do we need other developers? (George?)
- The seed nodes. What I understood is that it is rented for one year. What will happen after that? (Didn't James-z take care of that)? Mining with the wallet is related to the 4 seed nodes.

If that is clarified then an inventory is needed who want to help with promotion and how etc (different Quark devoted people need to be united again here (in a moderated thread) or at reddit or at the quarktalk forum or somewhere else.
- Clarification about the shaq-fu perks. (with are hold by Victor).
- A structured foundation and a leader needs to be placed (who will step forward as a leader? maok? coinmama? you? I think there is still enough potential to build something nice :-) ).

Fully agree with you.

Yes, Max will only maintain the protocol. I think this is enough for now IF we are not going to make any radical changes and rather push to first unite the community behind one large and worthwhile ROI project, with possible strong returns and a large incentive for project managers to get involved.

Also where is VIC is he still on board with qrk??. I have spoken to VIC before in the past and always thought he was a nice guy who had put a lot of effort into qrk for very little recognition by most of the community. VIc was always pro to get some development funding set up since many of his ideas and work was held back by lack of funding and this was obviously a very frustrating position for him. The ROI project could deliver this funding without the development superblock or POB/qrk only ipo coin.

The leadership is essential now. Let's get the leadership in place, get a new moderated thread set up on here and get some ideas flowing for some good ROI projects. There is no reason to sit around waiting for some large companies to decide to implement qrk as a currency they will use. We should start creating some services that are actually useful and attractive for people to use. Perhaps when qrk is the only accepted currency on a few well know services then other companies may show an interest.

Coinmama come on say you will take the lead here. I would support this fully and other core members have also said this. Since max is not interested in leading we need someone at the helm with a great support group around them.

I would hope QRKfx would come back if this one taken care of in short order.

[maok]

After starting a reddit campaign on unrelated with crypto subreddits, new people are joining quarktalk which basically get to know Quark as their first crypto currency. I will also launch a google campaign and I think there will be many more who will hear about Quark for the first time so I hope some of you old quarkers join in and try to help/advice them. If anyone has the time to become a moderator and wants to help let me know. For Quark projects there are plenty of options and if anyone wants to share their projects and raise bounties etc you have full support on there. Good luck

[silvermetal]

I think Cryptohunters' idea of radical changes to Quark will only serve to damage Quark.  Quark algo etc is good as it is.  Quark just needs marketing and usage and a community that isn't pulling in 3 different directions.

1. Damage how? and through what process. What radical changes do you mean exactly. Explain the radical change and the process through which it would damage  qrk. I'm yet to hear one person justify this damage they assume would take place. I mean is -95% value already not reasonable damage?

2. are we going to start a new thread so we can block out people that just throw insults with no real reason or logic behind them.

3. QRK just needs...... Marketing and usage??  that is the same for EVERY coin out there. How will you motivate people to market it, how will you motivate people to use it above and beyond the other 500 alts?

"Just needs" means nothing. All coins " just need" people to buy and use it.


Only QRKfx seemed able to think through the stages and logically lay them out as some kind of coherent thought pattern that people could follow and understand. QRk tbh is probably screwed unless some decent leadership rises up takes the lead and give some direction.  I have seen ZERO solutions to problems qrks has right now from anyone.


The ROI projects are the only way forward without making some radical changes. We will need leadership and organisation to get those going.

Hi Crypto,

Really like your devotion! And agree on many points with you.

The insults hurts but I know who it is saying. Personally I will not lose hope just by one person. That would be too easy. I will be the last person who sell my Quark (to be honest I bought my original Quark back after I had first sold it in an impulse few weeks back)

When I speak for myself, some wounds need to be healed, and that takes time.
For me it is like when your wife/husband cheated on you, and the next day he/she says: "come on, nothing happened we continue with our relationship just like before"
I think each one of us will process what has happened on its own way.

Before we continue (as you described) we need to clarify certain aspects first (in my opinion).

- The role of Max. He indicated that he will only maintain the protocol. Is that sufficient? Or do we need other developers? (George?)
- The seed nodes. What I understood is that it is rented for one year. What will happen after that? (Didn't James-z take care of that)? Mining with the wallet is related to the 4 seed nodes.

If that is clarified then an inventory is needed who want to help with promotion and how etc (different Quark devoted people need to be united again here (in a moderated thread) or at reddit or at the quarktalk forum or somewhere else.
- Clarification about the shaq-fu perks. (with are hold by Victor).
- A structured foundation and a leader needs to be placed (who will step forward as a leader? maok? coinmama? you? I think there is still enough potential to build something nice :-) ).

Fully agree with you.

Yes, Max will only maintain the protocol. I think this is enough for now IF we are not going to make any radical changes and rather push to first unite the community behind one large and worthwhile ROI project, with possible strong returns and a large incentive for project managers to get involved.

Also where is VIC is he still on board with qrk??. I have spoken to VIC before in the past and always thought he was a nice guy who had put a lot of effort into qrk for very little recognition by most of the community. VIc was always pro to get some development funding set up since many of his ideas and work was held back by lack of funding and this was obviously a very frustrating position for him. The ROI project could deliver this funding without the development superblock or POB/qrk only ipo coin.

The leadership is essential now. Let's get the leadership in place, get a new moderated thread set up on here and get some ideas flowing for some good ROI projects. There is no reason to sit around waiting for some large companies to decide to implement qrk as a currency they will use. We should start creating some services that are actually useful and attractive for people to use. Perhaps when qrk is the only accepted currency on a few well know services then other companies may show an interest.

Coinmama come on say you will take the lead here. I would support this fully and other core members have also said this. Since max is not interested in leading we need someone at the helm with a great support group around them.

I would hope QRKfx would come back if this one taken care of in short order.

Yes, Vic is still on board. I received an e-mail of him 2-3 days back where he asked support to answer some questions for an article. I am not sure whether somebody is helping with that. But he is for the next couple of years working 80 hours a week...therefore I don't think he wants to take the leadership. But I agree, it would be nice if he indicates and shares with all of us his current vision for Quark.

ROI projects are essential. Quark can't rely on donations only. We need to re-group first.

Quarkfx is always welcome to help us or to come back, but we should respect his choice to move on. I can't blame his choice. Maybe in the future we can cooperate with him one way or another.

[cryptohunter]

I think Cryptohunters' idea of radical changes to Quark will only serve to damage Quark.  Quark algo etc is good as it is.  Quark just needs marketing and usage and a community that isn't pulling in 3 different directions.

1. Damage how? and through what process. What radical changes do you mean exactly. Explain the radical change and the process through which it would damage  qrk. I'm yet to hear one person justify this damage they assume would take place. I mean is -95% value already not reasonable damage?

2. are we going to start a new thread so we can block out people that just throw insults with no real reason or logic behind them.

3. QRK just needs...... Marketing and usage??  that is the same for EVERY coin out there. How will you motivate people to market it, how will you motivate people to use it above and beyond the other 500 alts?

"Just needs" means nothing. All coins " just need" people to buy and use it.


Only QRKfx seemed able to think through the stages and logically lay them out as some kind of coherent thought pattern that people could follow and understand. QRk tbh is probably screwed unless some decent leadership rises up takes the lead and give some direction.  I have seen ZERO solutions to problems qrks has right now from anyone.


The ROI projects are the only way forward without making some radical changes. We will need leadership and organisation to get those going.

Hi Crypto,

Really like your devotion! And agree on many points with you.

The insults hurts but I know who it is saying. Personally I will not lose hope just by one person. That would be too easy. I will be the last person who sell my Quark (to be honest I bought my original Quark back after I had first sold it in an impulse few weeks back)

When I speak for myself, some wounds need to be healed, and that takes time.
For me it is like when your wife/husband cheated on you, and the next day he/she says: "come on, nothing happened we continue with our relationship just like before"
I think each one of us will process what has happened on its own way.

Before we continue (as you described) we need to clarify certain aspects first (in my opinion).

- The role of Max. He indicated that he will only maintain the protocol. Is that sufficient? Or do we need other developers? (George?)
- The seed nodes. What I understood is that it is rented for one year. What will happen after that? (Didn't James-z take care of that)? Mining with the wallet is related to the 4 seed nodes.

If that is clarified then an inventory is needed who want to help with promotion and how etc (different Quark devoted people need to be united again here (in a moderated thread) or at reddit or at the quarktalk forum or somewhere else.
- Clarification about the shaq-fu perks. (with are hold by Victor).
- A structured foundation and a leader needs to be placed (who will step forward as a leader? maok? coinmama? you? I think there is still enough potential to build something nice :-) ).

Fully agree with you.

Yes, Max will only maintain the protocol. I think this is enough for now IF we are not going to make any radical changes and rather push to first unite the community behind one large and worthwhile ROI project, with possible strong returns and a large incentive for project managers to get involved.

Also where is VIC is he still on board with qrk??. I have spoken to VIC before in the past and always thought he was a nice guy who had put a lot of effort into qrk for very little recognition by most of the community. VIc was always pro to get some development funding set up since many of his ideas and work was held back by lack of funding and this was obviously a very frustrating position for him. The ROI project could deliver this funding without the development superblock or POB/qrk only ipo coin.

The leadership is essential now. Let's get the leadership in place, get a new moderated thread set up on here and get some ideas flowing for some good ROI projects. There is no reason to sit around waiting for some large companies to decide to implement qrk as a currency they will use. We should start creating some services that are actually useful and attractive for people to use. Perhaps when qrk is the only accepted currency on a few well know services then other companies may show an interest.

Coinmama come on say you will take the lead here. I would support this fully and other core members have also said this. Since max is not interested in leading we need someone at the helm with a great support group around them.

I would hope QRKfx would come back if this one taken care of in short order.

Yes, Vic is still on board. I received an e-mail of him 2-3 days back where he asked support to answer some questions for an article. I am not sure whether somebody is helping with that. But he is for the next couple of years working 80 hours a week...therefore I don't think he wants to take the leadership. But I agree, it would be nice if he indicates and shares with all of us his current vision for Quark.

ROI projects are essential. Quark can't rely on donations only. We need to re-group first.

Quarkfx is always welcome to help us or to come back, but we should respect his choice to move on. I can't blame his choice. Maybe in the future we can cooperate with him one way or another.

great news that VIC is still on board. 80 hours per week? seriously i hope he is on 250k per year or more. With funding and spending 80hours per week someone like vic could help get qrk to the top 5 again. Shame we didn't have the funding in place to make all of his hard work pay off for him so he didn't have to work so hard. Perhaps if we can get qrk back on it's feet it can finance people like vic to work on qrk projects.

Yes i do agree we must respect QRKfx's decision to leave. However, under the correct conditions i am hopeful we could get him back on the qrk team.

Donations don't work. With the exception of doge i have not really seen donations amount to much. ROI is the only way without taking radical measures to get things moving.

[maok]

@silvermetal, You were here at the beginning, right ? Why wasn't the logo with "the elementary currency" adopted instead of `money reinvented` ? You took a vote or ? Its just that the latter fits more for Bitcoin because Bitcoin reinvented how we see and use money, while Quark creator transformed it into a day-to-day currency by adding security,speed,zero fees,etc therefore `the elementary currency` would have fitted much better IMHO.

[Majormax]

@silvermetal, You were here at the beginning, right ? Why wasn't the logo with "the elementary currency" adopted instead of `money reinvented` ? You took a vote or ? Its just that the latter fits more for Bitcoin because Bitcoin reinvented how we see and use money, while Quark creator transformed it into a day-to-day currency by adding security,speed,zero fees,etc therefore `the elementary currency` would have fitted much better IMHO.

There was no tagline in the first months...Later there was a poll on the forum : we set up the forum in November 2013... I favored 'Money built by the people', here is the link to the poll. December 2013. I don't recall a formal adoption of Money Reinvented.
http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/702/poll-quark-slogan?page=2

[Vlad2Vlad]

Who is this Max you guys keep talking about?  At first I thought you were talking about Max Keiser.  lol.

And what is his function?  By the sounds of it he is the lead dev, is this correct?

Sorry, there's a lot of confusion on this thread right now.  Like I said, I used to have 2 million Quark but sold it all at 200 Satoshi and now I have less than 20,000 Quarks.  

Thank you!

[silvermetal]

@maok, I am not from the beginning. I bought my Quark since November 2013 (few weeks before the pump) and I became active since Januari 2014?
There were many different logos and slogans as far as I can remember. During the thunderclap we all agreed to one logo at reddit. I will look it up for you after my work.

[maok]

@Majormax, thanks but like you say I don't see Money reinvented in those pool options. It was too early days perhaps..

@silvermetal, so things were decided on reddit where there is no voting power ?  Also how many options you had to choose from in terms of slogans ?

@Vlad2Vlad, yes Max Guevara, Quark creator and main dev.

[silvermetal]

@ maok, well it was not exactly a poll on reddit. BuyQuark was busy with a banner: http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/1901/thunderclap-quark-feedback-social-media?page=2
and asked the community at reddit for advice (search "revolution" at reddit and see post of buyquark "Join the revolution [what do you think]")
The final banner which was used for the thunderclap was with the "money reinvented". This to keep it simple for people who would be exposed to the banner and had never heard of cryptocurrencies before.
Since then we used for all Quark promotions "money reinvented".

It is open for change, to make a fresh start ;-). I also rather see a slogan what reflects Quark and not cryptocurrencies in general.

[bitcoinnee]

quark is still the top 15 coin

[bitcoinnee]

quark algo is a bit hot in summer for miners

[digitalindustry]

quark is still the top 15 coin

; D now take the scams out.

let me just check....

yep we are top 10 simple - and just wait a few months.