[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[Netnox]

Merge mining is more interesting to me than proof of burn because you basically destroy quark and have to start all over and hope the new coin will survive amongst the so many new coins. With a companion coin you still have Quark and get everything what proof of burn would offer and you don't destroy quark this way.

Although i would like the companion coin to be a brand new coin and not an already existing pretty much done coin which Kolin was after in the other Thread.

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[ycagel]

Why would anyone stay with Quark? You are offering the hype features of the market and it will follow the typical cycle that all other coins have. How is there going to be long term sustainability and short term acceptable price increase?

YC

The more i think the more i like Cryptohunters opinion to go for a companion coin. This way Quark will be here and it's issues will be solved, i believe the dev pot will be higher if we go with a companion coin and it doesn't have to come from the community. People are free to buy the new coin, i know that new blood will come by and the new coin can be as gateway for new people to join quark. I would buy the companion coin and would hold the majority of my quark as well. Also i'm not that sure if the community will be divided completely because quarks hash rate is going to be fixed + more active dev and quark it is also pretty well known amongst everyone. If we just market both quark and the new coin in a balanced way it should be alright.

[reRaise]

Why would anyone stay with Quark? You are offering the hype features of the market and it will follow the typical cycle that all other coins have. How is there going to be long term sustainability and short term acceptable price increase?

YC

The more i think the more i like Cryptohunters opinion to go for a companion coin. This way Quark will be here and it's issues will be solved, i believe the dev pot will be higher if we go with a companion coin and it doesn't have to come from the community. People are free to buy the new coin, i know that new blood will come by and the new coin can be as gateway for new people to join quark. I would buy the companion coin and would hold the majority of my quark as well. Also i'm not that sure if the community will be divided completely because quarks hash rate is going to be fixed + more active dev and quark it is also pretty well known amongst everyone. If we just market both quark and the new coin in a balanced way it should be alright.

Because quark will have a secure network and enough funds to add features? This can be made possible with merge mining.

quarkfx mentioned some features which can be reached with enough funds seen below, with the available funds we can make quark better, If you have any better suggestions would be nice to hear it.

Decentralized Marketplace / Auction
Distributed Storage
Multi-signatures
Two-phase Payments
Voting System
Reputation System
Decentralized Mixing Service
Smart Contracts

[hjg1312]

Why would anyone stay with Quark? You are offering the hype features of the market and it will follow the typical cycle that all other coins have. How is there going to be long term sustainability and short term acceptable price increase?

YC

The more i think the more i like Cryptohunters opinion to go for a companion coin. This way Quark will be here and it's issues will be solved, i believe the dev pot will be higher if we go with a companion coin and it doesn't have to come from the community. People are free to buy the new coin, i know that new blood will come by and the new coin can be as gateway for new people to join quark. I would buy the companion coin and would hold the majority of my quark as well. Also i'm not that sure if the community will be divided completely because quarks hash rate is going to be fixed + more active dev and quark it is also pretty well known amongst everyone. If we just market both quark and the new coin in a balanced way it should be alright.

Because quark will have a secure network and enough funds to add features? This can be made possible with merge mining.

quarkfx mentioned some features which can be reached with enough funds seen below, with the available funds we can make quark better, If you have any better suggestions would be nice to hear it.

Decentralized Marketplace / Auction
Distributed Storage
Multi-signatures
Two-phase Payments
Voting System
Reputation System
Decentralized Mixing Service
Smart Contracts

I will be very happy if any of these features can be implemented 

[quarkfx]

I think it´s worth to keep gathering information on the document because information in the forum disappear. Some really valuable information has been provided and I feel much less worried now.

Some of our core members are currently working on a new forum that will allow for more community participation. I think we should push things forward here. While we need capable developers to work on the code, the discussion process should be as effective as possible. We will soon need test users who help us to improve functionality. Who is willing to help us?

Also if you are a webdev or know some basic CSS coding your help is much welcome.

Next week I will release a game project draft that promotes Quark and needs funding. All of those who are seriously worried: please join the quarkuniverse IRC

https://kiwiirc.com/client/kornbluth.freenode.net/?nick=webguest#quarkuniverse

As you may or may not know, community members meet there, talk about Quark issues and join forces.

You can also chat with the new Social-Wallet (if you haven´t tried it already)

[coinerer]

For devs of new wallet version 0.9.2 (new very early stage of development wallet) only:



But - I have 1000x less QRKs than before. Only a few Probably same with transactions.

Syncing with network probably work.

I refuse to test other sensitive options


After returning to current version of wallet, 0.8.23, or my 0.8.24, it seems blockchain is corrupted

Do not use this new early stage wallet 0.9.2, just for experiments, except if you have to like I had to Do backup!

I see devs work on new wallet based on gui from bitcoin v0.9.2.1.

I compiled wallet with newest github source for v0.9.2.1.  Some problems solved, wallet started normally. Blockchain seems downloaded fully but still not compatible with prev wallet v0.8.3.23 or my 24). So it needs resyncing (or recovering from backup).

Above problem with showing 1000x less quarks still present.

Advance is obvious.


One suggestion:

In configuration.ac change line
    
             AC_SUBST(INCLUDES)           =>           AC_SUBST(AM_CPPFLAGS)

INCLUDES is obsolete.

[Coinmama2014]

For devs of new wallet version 0.9.2 (new very early stage of development wallet) only:



But - I have 1000x less QRKs than before. Only a few Probably same with transactions.

Syncing with network probably work.

I refuse to test other sensitive options


After returning to current version of wallet, 0.8.23, or my 0.8.24, it seems blockchain is corrupted

Do not use this new early stage wallet 0.9.2, just for experiments, except if you have to like I had to Do backup!

I see devs work on new wallet based on gui from bitcoin v0.9.2.1.

I compiled wallet with newest github source for v0.9.2.1.  Some problems solved, wallet started normally. Blockchain seems downloaded fully but still not compatible with prev wallet v0.8.3.23 or my 24). So it needs resyncing (or recovering from backup).

Above problem with showing 1000x less quarks still present.

Advance is obvious.


One suggestion:

In configuration.ac change line
   
             AC_SUBST(INCLUDES)           =>           AC_SUBST(AM_CPPFLAGS)

INCLUDES is obsolete.

This wallet is not ready for testing at all! They have begun the transition- I will let you know when the update is complete and ready for testing-

[coinerer]

For devs of new wallet version 0.9.2 (new very early stage of development wallet) only:



But - I have 1000x less QRKs than before. Only a few Probably same with transactions.

Syncing with network probably work.

I refuse to test other sensitive options


After returning to current version of wallet, 0.8.23, or my 0.8.24, it seems blockchain is corrupted

Do not use this new early stage wallet 0.9.2, just for experiments, except if you have to like I had to Do backup!

I see devs work on new wallet based on gui from bitcoin v0.9.2.1.

I compiled wallet with newest github source for v0.9.2.1.  Some problems solved, wallet started normally. Blockchain seems downloaded fully but still not compatible with prev wallet v0.8.3.23 or my 24). So it needs resyncing (or recovering from backup).

Above problem with showing 1000x less quarks still present.

Advance is obvious.


One suggestion:

In configuration.ac change line
   
             AC_SUBST(INCLUDES)           =>           AC_SUBST(AM_CPPFLAGS)

INCLUDES is obsolete.

This wallet is not ready for testing at all! They have begun the transition- I will let you know when the update is complete and ready for testing-

Of course it is not ready for testing at all. But not for me

Btw, inform devs about this suggestion.

[reRaise]

@quarkfx, i seen in the document where you state as one of the cons of merge mining there is no development fund. Wouldn't this fund come from a premine?

[coinerer]

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS.  Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

[reRaise]

^^ Most here are part of Reddit as well. We can’t build a succesful coin without an appropriate security basis. We also need funds for new developments. These are the most important things if a coin wants to keep being successful.  

[maok]

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS.  Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

[reRaise]

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS.  Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

Are you saying quarks network security is fine as it is? Read this comment from may " Right now [27 of May 2014] the main problem for Quark is completely hoppible situation in mining. Pool coinmine.pl generate from 60% to 70% of blocks and we have roughly 500 i7-class CPUs hashing ATM. So, we could experience a 51% attack virtually at any moment. And even assuming pool operator completely honest it’s very easy for someone to DDOS the location of major hashrate and attack Quark with no more than half a thousand CPUs. It’s a small botnet or a not very large corporate network -- e.g. Microsoft has 1200 000 server nodes, Google -- 800 000. The reason for such a pathetic situation is generally the initial coin distribution model, which generate very few Quarks, not enough to feed profit-seeking commercial miners. Just an other side of one of the greatest advantage of Quark."

Also you talked about "We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol" I know about the social wallet, but other features like below and improving the protocol i believe we need funds to pay devs to do it.

Decentralized Marketplace / Auction
Distributed Storage
Multi-signatures
Two-phase Payments
Voting System
Reputation System
Decentralized Mixing Service
Smart Contracts

[ycagel]

Refreshing to hear this. Makes much more sense for the non miner crowd such as me. Looking forward to hearing results.

YC

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS.  Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

[maok]

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS.  Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

Are you saying quarks network security is fine as it is? Read this comment from may " Right now [27 of May 2014] the main problem for Quark is completely hoppible situation in mining. Pool coinmine.pl generate from 60% to 70% of blocks and we have roughly 500 i7-class CPUs hashing ATM. So, we could experience a 51% attack virtually at any moment. And even assuming pool operator completely honest it’s very easy for someone to DDOS the location of major hashrate and attack Quark with no more than half a thousand CPUs. It’s a small botnet or a not very large corporate network -- e.g. Microsoft has 1200 000 server nodes, Google -- 800 000. The reason for such a pathetic situation is generally the initial coin distribution model, which generate very few Quarks, not enough to feed profit-seeking commercial miners. Just an other side of one of the greatest advantage of Quark."

Also you talked about "We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol" I know about the social wallet, but other promising features and improving the protocol i believe we need funds to pay devs to do it.

Exactly, Quark network is not susceptible to such attacks, we could have 1 PC mining and if the attack occurs we revert back to the last checkpoint and so on. We need hashrate power but its not relevant at this point, what we need more is community involvement not spreading FUD and creation of merge coins etc. We need protocol to improve and we are creating a structure in which we welcome core supporters of Quark to become foundation members with a small yearly involvement from which the dev team will take a large portion, while the rest will go for Quark related projects.

[quarkcheck]

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS.  Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

Are you saying quarks network security is fine as it is? Read this comment from may " Right now [27 of May 2014] the main problem for Quark is completely hoppible situation in mining. Pool coinmine.pl generate from 60% to 70% of blocks and we have roughly 500 i7-class CPUs hashing ATM. So, we could experience a 51% attack virtually at any moment. And even assuming pool operator completely honest it’s very easy for someone to DDOS the location of major hashrate and attack Quark with no more than half a thousand CPUs. It’s a small botnet or a not very large corporate network -- e.g. Microsoft has 1200 000 server nodes, Google -- 800 000. The reason for such a pathetic situation is generally the initial coin distribution model, which generate very few Quarks, not enough to feed profit-seeking commercial miners. Just an other side of one of the greatest advantage of Quark."

Also you talked about "We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol" I know about the social wallet, but other promising features and improving the protocol i believe we need funds to pay devs to do it.

Exactly, Quark network is not susceptible to such attacks, we could have 1 PC mining and if the attack occurs we revert back to the last checkpoint and so on. We need hashrate power but its not relevant at this point, what we need more is community involvement not spreading FUD and creation of merge coins etc. We need protocol to improve and we are creating a structure in which we welcome core supporters of Quark to become foundation members with a small yearly involvement from which the dev team will take a large portion, while the rest will go for Quark related projects.

Very well said Maok, such a positive point of view, right now I am at the same page as you...less distraction more focused on building the community is key..this may take long time to achieve but at least we can step towards to a right direction. And open for discussion is always good.

[southaussie]

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

Hey im a long time holder and supporter of the Quarkcoin, I ahh bought 100,000 odd the very next day after Cryptsy it up for trade and iv been holding most of them ever since...

I just wanted to come for a visit to see how the Quark community is going as its Quarks 1st birthday in a few days and wanted to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUARKCOIN and WELL DONE DEVS!!!

WELL DONE... For not losing interest and keeping Qrk alive, Thanks for all the work you've put in over the last year and i hope theres many more to come....

STICK TO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR QRK DONT DO NO STUPID SHIT OTHERS ARE YOU PUSHING TO DO... Iv seen many of coin i invested in over the last 2.5 years iv been buying/trading coins simply die in the ass... For varies reasons, You only have to have a look around at all coins that had great potential once upon a time that are now dead or worthless, Go check out the ADT community for example... Literally go have a look at what a divided and arguing community has done to that coin.

I want to point something out... Look at the all time trading history of Qrk on Cryptsy, It traded for 3-4 months from July to mid November between 0.00000040 - 0.00000400 and never any higher in those months until every single coin got pumped to Mooon in November and Qrk went along for the ride with all the other coins, Since then every coin not just Qrk but every coin has come crashing back to Earth and many harder than others, I think compared to many coins Qrk is shaping up better than most have in that time its still trading at 5x what it was before it got pumped (Think of it that way)... Many of these new coins coming out WOW there are shitloads arnt there? I can see many of those coins dying off just as iv seen so many in my time, Most are just pump, dump get rich quick coins that dont have a solid footing in the crypto world... Me personally have much more faith in the oldschool coins that had innovation in the early days, They have stood the test of time they've been pumped, dumped, thrashed out but they still here doing well... Qrk will have good times again (After this financial crisis is over)... Block rewards halve next couple days so buy up while Qrkcoins are still cheap...

Anyways... Keep on keepin on guys, Im glad your still here putting the effort in to make sure Qrk is around for along time to come... HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUARKCOIN YOU ROCK [/list]

[Coinmama2014]

@quarkfx, i seen in the document where you state as one of the cons of merge mining there is no development fund. Wouldn't this fund come from a premine?

Yes! Or mining for the foundation, or some solution as yet to be agreed upon..This is not a con at all- it was a challenge to be figured out, to make it a pro- so that the end result would would be not only increasing hashrate, but also creating funding for the Foundation for infrastructure building..

However, so many posts have taken place here that it is extremely confusing for anyone to follow any one proposal- Its getting too muddled here. Most people dont even understand what a merge mine is http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/273/how-does-merged-mining-work , and there are two totally different "companion coin" discussions, in addition to other completely different proposals-

I started out several pages back attempting to guide the discussion a bit in the direction of a merge mine, only because Max has already agreed this might be a good idea to consider, to support the hashrate..(In addition to the checkpoints). But there are so many ideas flying around here, and I wasn't about to speak for Max on this topic. We need more info on what he would seriously consider.

So, we will need to know a bit more from Max at the next meeting before proceeding with any of this.

[Coinmama2014]

Hey im a long time holder and supporter of the Quarkcoin, I ahh bought 100,000 odd the very next day after Cryptsy it up for trade and iv been holding most of them ever since...

I just wanted to come for a visit to see how the Quark community is going as its Quarks 1st birthday in a few days and wanted to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUARKCOIN and WELL DONE DEVS!!!

WELL DONE... For not losing interest and keeping Qrk alive, Thanks for all the work you've put in over the last year and i hope theres many more to come....

STICK TO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR QRK DONT DO NO STUPID SHIT OTHERS ARE YOU PUSHING TO DO... Iv seen many of coin i invested in over the last 2.5 years iv been buying/trading coins simply die in the ass... For varies reasons, You only have to have a look around at all coins that had great potential once upon a time that are now dead or worthless, Go check out the ADT community for example... Literally go have a look at what a divided and arguing community has done to that coin.

I want to point something out... Look at the all time trading history of Qrk on Cryptsy, It traded for 3-4 months from July to mid November between 0.00000040 - 0.00000400 and never any higher in those months until every single coin got pumped to Mooon in November and Qrk went along for the ride with all the other coins, Since then every coin not just Qrk but every coin has come crashing back to Earth and many harder than others, I think compared to many coins Qrk is shaping up better than most have in that time its still trading at 5x what it was before it got pumped (Think of it that way)... Many of these new coins coming out WOW there are shitloads arnt there? I can see many of those coins dying off just as iv seen so many in my time, Most are just pump, dump get rich quick coins that dont have a solid footing in the crypto world... Me personally have much more faith in the oldschool coins that had innovation in the early days, They have stood the test of time they've been pumped, dumped, thrashed out but they still here doing well... Qrk will have good times again (After this financial crisis is over)... Block rewards halve next couple days so buy up while Qrkcoins are still cheap...

Anyways... Keep on keepin on guys, Im glad your still here putting the effort in to make sure Qrk is around for along time to come... HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUARKCOIN YOU ROCK [/list]

Thank for this awesome post, and a reminder of what a great community we have!!!

[cryptohunter]

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

• We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
• Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
• Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
• The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

Hey im a long time holder and supporter of the Quarkcoin, I ahh bought 100,000 odd the very next day after Cryptsy it up for trade and iv been holding most of them ever since...

I just wanted to come for a visit to see how the Quark community is going as its Quarks 1st birthday in a few days and wanted to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUARKCOIN and WELL DONE DEVS!!!

WELL DONE... For not losing interest and keeping Qrk alive, Thanks for all the work you've put in over the last year and i hope theres many more to come....

STICK TO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR QRK DONT DO NO STUPID SHIT OTHERS ARE YOU PUSHING TO DO... Iv seen many of coin i invested in over the last 2.5 years iv been buying/trading coins simply die in the ass... For varies reasons, You only have to have a look around at all coins that had great potential once upon a time that are now dead or worthless, Go check out the ADT community for example... Literally go have a look at what a divided and arguing community has done to that coin.

I want to point something out... Look at the all time trading history of Qrk on Cryptsy, It traded for 3-4 months from July to mid November between 0.00000040 - 0.00000400 and never any higher in those months until every single coin got pumped to Mooon in November and Qrk went along for the ride with all the other coins, Since then every coin not just Qrk but every coin has come crashing back to Earth and many harder than others, I think compared to many coins Qrk is shaping up better than most have in that time its still trading at 5x what it was before it got pumped (Think of it that way)... Many of these new coins coming out WOW there are shitloads arnt there? I can see many of those coins dying off just as iv seen so many in my time, Most are just pump, dump get rich quick coins that dont have a solid footing in the crypto world... Me personally have much more faith in the oldschool coins that had innovation in the early days, They have stood the test of time they've been pumped, dumped, thrashed out but they still here doing well... Qrk will have good times again (After this financial crisis is over)... Block rewards halve next couple days so buy up while Qrkcoins are still cheap...

Anyways... Keep on keepin on guys, Im glad your still here putting the effort in to make sure Qrk is around for along time to come... HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUARKCOIN YOU ROCK [/list]

Probably the strangest post i've seen for a while.

Let's welcome qrk back to the 400 sat range? I'm not sure that is what we should aim for.

Please tell me PRECISELY some negatives of introducing a companion coin in the way i have suggested in detail.  I am still waiting to hear ONE negative.

I still see NO negative side to it. If the companion coin was handled correctly. It will give qrk everything it needs to proceed in the competitive market we are in now. All these old school coins are actually dead and are not coming back. WDC, MEC, DGC, ...... every single one of the last wave is dead. If you think these are coming back to take on DRK,XC, basically any of the new wave of coins with well funded full time developers and promotional teams you are wrong.

I agree with one point, the hash rate is the least of qrks worries.


All of these currencies are pretty much the same with different names. The algos can even be altered, every bit of the tech can be changed. Any coin out there can switch to emulate QRK 100% carbon copy. Forget qrk being able to beat down other coins on the speed of transaction, the auto checkpointing. That all is completely 100% open to be adopted by any other coin.

The main issues are obvious.

1. dev with no funds
2. dev win no motivation to work full time on the coin
3 community exists outside of crypto and forgot about qrk
4. community that is not active with ideas or any further financial input
5. half the community is against any kind of new features - the same features that have boosted dark way above qrk in terms of interest and activity within the crypto community.


Tell me know about the great job qrk is doing. You are watching this coin on it's way back to 20 -200 sats range.



Let me tell you about another version of the qrk story starting a year ago


1. we had a dev pot
2. we had a dev that was fully active this last year with money to finance him
3. finance for marketing and funding other teams not just a handful of people who help when they can
4. qrk that stopped most of our BTC leaking to dark and BC
5. qrk that had lots of on going projects and services giving hope to investors to hold their positions and increase them
6. qrk that had active investors on this board that were also active in investing in ROI projects.
7. qrk that was holding at 50k sats not 2k and sinking. It is VERY simple, qrk was seen as very promising, now other coins are seen as far more promising. That is why it is sinking. If we had been the most active community, had active dev team, marketing team, project managers, active investors we would have maintained a higher price and had some decent purchasing power. Once you get back to 20 sats you will never be able to afford to get any developers on board., qrks purchasing power will be pathetic.


I want that qrk thanks.

QRK can not compete against other coins that do not have the weaknesses qrk has now.


Tell me ONE precise negative of the companion coin introduced through QRK only IPO above and beyond the negatives every single other competing crypto coin ? i am listening. I have given over and over all of the possible benefits. I mean hell if we can't even make 30% of the possible benefits work out for us. Let's quit now and join some communities that can get some things going.

Lot's of benefits with ZERO negatives? and we are still thinking about it?

I have great faith in qrks core team. But they are too small and too poorly funded to compete with larger coin communities that are very active and very well funded. QRKS algo and tech will not save us from anything.