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March 19, 2014, 01:24:40 PM
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Can't really say I blame them. They have no moderation powers and the moderators themselves don't do anything despite their own rules against trolling. This is pretty much a free for all. Sadly this isnt even the only one like this. Other threads tend to have the same thing going on. Not all but quite a few.

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March 19, 2014, 01:28:23 PM
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These folks claim to be selling TH unis as well. http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh

What the... appears to be a firm with its own design for coincraft a1 miners.... based in Alexandria, Virginia.

I'll need to pay them a visit!

Plese DO! I'd be a blessing to see if these mythical beasties exist and perform well.

They are asking $8,500 for a system with ONLY 40 A1 chips:

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This is for one unit with forty 28nm ASIC chips. 40 ASIC chips per unit.

You can plug in many more to the same Raspberry Pi computer using a high speed USB hub as you grow your mining rig!

Self contained system, Comes with Raspberry Pi and screen to see hashing rate. Everything you need to mine right out of the box!


Too expensive!

Here is the board design:  



10 A1 chips per board.

I just got word from these folks, they say 7-10 days for delivery.

Here is how the case is designed:     


 
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March 19, 2014, 01:30:43 PM
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clenell has generally just degenerated into being a troll. Hence why I have him on ignore. Any credibility he had died with his stupidity and insults toward anyone who even marginally disagreed with him.

There are a few who have ruined this thread. I reads better with them on ingore, but its been soooooo trolled its pretty worless.   AMT doesnt come around anymore due to the trolls or they are on a beach Wink



wow, what a simple world you must inhabit. What came first... the lack of updates or the "bitching"? Deliveries or "bitching"? Misinformation or "bitching" I'll let you respond before I prove what an idiot you are.

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March 19, 2014, 01:37:30 PM
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Josh texted me and said he would refund my money. he asked for my bank wire information and I sent it to him yesterday. I will see what he does with it today.

Sounds ridiculous to me that he waited this long and got a lot of bad press in the process.

Any additional information why he is refunding your money?   Have you filed complaints anywhere that we need to know?

 
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March 19, 2014, 01:54:57 PM
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Josh texted me and said he would refund my money. he asked for my bank wire information and I sent it to him yesterday. I will see what he does with it today.

Sounds ridiculous to me that he waited this long and got a lot of bad press in the process.

Any additional information why he is refunding your money?   Have you filed complaints anywhere that we need to know?

no, i just called him on his personal cell and demanded a refund. my hunch is he doesnt have the money. i will divulge more later. in the meanwhile i enjoy reading the AMT fanboy posts. they remind me of myself 3 months ago, a tool.

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March 19, 2014, 03:05:36 PM
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amt continues to no longer answer phone calls at the office... telling? They also no longer sell on amazon.com. i wonder if the folks at Amazon.com were being unreasonable when they decided to no longer allow AMT to sell on their website? Interesting how amazon.com figures out quickly what the AMT fanboys here are oblivious too.

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March 19, 2014, 04:25:22 PM
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THIS FORUM IS NOT A MEANS TO COMMUNICATE WITH AMT - CALL OR EMAIL US - WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE PROMISE.

Just email them. They promise to respond ASAP.

Buy & Hold
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March 19, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
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They never got back to me.... so good luck! lol
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March 19, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
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But, they promised, IN ALL CAPS even!

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March 19, 2014, 05:51:11 PM
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But, they promised, IN ALL CAPS even!

we are to blame for their terrible customer service - dopieum and mblackout said so.

they will get their miners before all of us.

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March 19, 2014, 06:03:20 PM
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Have not visited this thread in some time.
Unfortunately it looks like AMT has lived up to my expectations.
Exceeded them even. But not in a good way.
Businesses like this hurt Bitcoin. Incompetent and irresponsible.
Sorry for anyone who got taken here.

Knc and bitmain seem to be the only timely and honest sources right now.
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But, they promised, IN ALL CAPS even!

we are to blame for their terrible customer service - dopieum and mblackout said so.

they will get their miners before all of us.

That right!!!
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March 19, 2014, 06:25:13 PM
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Loking at BitMine's neww lineup, would be nice if my 520 system that AMT was strictly a reseller of, not a builder - gets upgraded to the 600GH BMch replaced that model with...
One can always dream...



If the network increases so much that the next level miner also can’t meet ROI, the product upgrade will continue to the next AMT product which is profitable. Therefore, no matter what happens, our clientele will be left a ROI either way. Plain and simple. We want our clientele to know that AMT cares about it’s clientele and AMT is a brand that consumers can rely on and trust.

ROI is defined as “a return on investment”.
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generally speaking you are right but in this case the implied warranty is return of investment with a profit

the question is, will AMT honer it?

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MPP, LOL!!

uh, no, they will not honor it.  I asked 3 times about the MPP.  1 partial reply, "you're miner already shipped".  so what, honor it and send another board, in a half ass effort to honor it.   I knew 2 weeks before my rig showed up that it would not ROI 6 months from quoted delivery date.  Seeing as i only had 5 months left on that 6 month window, it lessened my shot at ROI even more. 

If i mine BTC directly, i'm lucky to get .01btc/day.  .01*30=.3*5=1.5BTC   1.5BTC * $630(generous pricing there) = $945  hmmm, let me see, rig cost $1500+160 for shipping, and it brings in $945 minus power over th remaining 5 months.  That's not even close to ROI.  I ran these numbers well before my rig shipped and let AMT know about it. 

So where's my upgrade per the MPP?   It sure aint here.
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March 19, 2014, 06:56:23 PM
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Selling my AMT Order #961

6.5 BTC... PM me if interested
What about your glorious plans for 12k at eBay?
Common boys show some common sense  and prove  that there are bigger fools living in states Grin
Isawhim you are missing the golden chance to get precious amt device for just 4K with UNKNOWN delivery date. Looking at the crystal ball I can say it should be next week or week after that or some week in near feature Grin
FrictionlessCoin,
Show some respect and do not humiliate yourself. Just look for your rights as paying customer.
Make amt to get what they have asked for
Peace

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March 19, 2014, 07:00:48 PM
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Selling my AMT Order #961

6.5 BTC... PM me if interested
What about your glorious plans for 12k at eBay?
Common boys show some common sense  and prove  that there are bigger fools living in states Grin
Isawhim you are missing the golden chance to get precious amt device for just 4k
FrictionlessCoin,
Show some respect and do not humiliate yourself. Just look for your rights as paying customer.
Make amt to get what they have asked for
Peace

Loshia you are scum.  yes...  deriving pleasure on the misfortunes of others.  

 
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March 19, 2014, 07:04:15 PM
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Selling my AMT Order #961

6.5 BTC... PM me if interested
What about your glorious plans for 12k at eBay?
Common boys show some common sense  and prove  that there are bigger fools living in states Grin
Isawhim you are missing the golden chance to get precious amt device for just 4k
FrictionlessCoin,
Show some respect and do not humiliate yourself. Just look for your rights as paying customer.
Make amt to get what they have asked for
Peace

Losia you are scum.  yes...  deriving pleasure on the misfortunes of others.  
I just can not let go your bright thoughts about me not being American
You get what you asked for
Have I said something from day one which was not true about amt and some posters here?
Do you care where I live or if I am jipsy  juish or whatever?
Once again do not give up make them pay for their lies. They can not fuck their customers forever. They have to pay for that in one way or another. And you are the ones which can make this happen

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March 19, 2014, 07:10:19 PM
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Well AMT has a D+ in terms of their rating. Eventually there will be more organized and official sources as the cyrpto-mining community grows. Their rating was at a B+ at one point. They haven't gotten to BFL level delay levels. Not yet anyway. Too bad they have not made good on their word on updating.
 
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March 19, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
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Okay folks,  I have filled my complaints to various agencies:

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1  - FTC

https://complaint.ic3.gov/  - FCC Internet Crime

http://www.bbb.org/ - Better Business Bureau

http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/consumeraffairs/complaint.pdf  - Delaware County Consumer Affairs

I recommend that if you are not satisfied with the way AMT is treating you as a customer, then you should also file your complaints.

Their responses to any of these complaints will be used if ever I need to go to small claims court.

 
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March 19, 2014, 07:59:13 PM
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Okay folks,  I have filled my complaints to various agencies:

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1  - FTC

https://complaint.ic3.gov/  - FCC Internet Crime

http://www.bbb.org/ - Better Business Bureau

http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/consumeraffairs/complaint.pdf  - Delaware County Consumer Affairs

I recommend that if you are not satisfied with the way AMT is treating you as a customer, then you should also file your complaints.

Their responses to any of these complaints will be used if ever I need to go to small claims court.

Good job. I suggest everyone follow suit and do the same.

If this truly does go south, you will kick yourself later for not doing this earlier.

If AMT somehow manages to get everything shipped in the next week (doubtful) then it won't really matter whether you filed these complaints or not.

I'd err on the side of caution and file the complaints.
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March 19, 2014, 08:01:13 PM
 #3740

Okay folks,  I have filled my complaints to various agencies:

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1  - FTC

https://complaint.ic3.gov/  - FCC Internet Crime

http://www.bbb.org/ - Better Business Bureau

http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/consumeraffairs/complaint.pdf  - Delaware County Consumer Affairs

I recommend that if you are not satisfied with the way AMT is treating you as a customer, then you should also file your complaints.

Their responses to any of these complaints will be used if ever I need to go to small claims court.

Good job. I suggest everyone follow suit and do the same.

If this truly does go south, you will kick yourself later for not doing this earlier.

If AMT somehow manages to get everything shipped in the next week (doubtful) then it won't really matter whether you filed these complaints or not.

I'd err on the side of caution and file the complaints.

Wrong... it will matter if you filled these complaints.  You have a basis for your case in court.  Furthermore, bankruptcy is not excempt from fraud.

The complaint AMT should be really afraid of is the FTC complaint.  If they are guilty of wire-fraud,  that would be a very serious offense that entails jail time.

 
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