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April 15, 2014, 11:09:04 AM
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Another 100 years?  Shocked

No the end is near. Either the Kiev Nazis will invade Eastern Ukraine and expel everyone living there to Russia or Belarus. Or they will be defeated by the self-defense units in the East and a separate country will be created there.

That separate country should definitely include The Mother of All Russian Towns.
I already have a name for it - Kievan Rus. Ukraine sounds a bit derogatory.
Then they can have a bit of friendly competition with Moskovia, and everything will be as it should.
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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 15, 2014, 12:08:32 PM
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The pro-Russian protesters are heavily armed. The Kiev nazis are in for a complete surprise:



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April 15, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
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Ukrainian presidential candidate Tsarev brutally beaten - press office
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-presidential-candidates-attacked-516/

Presidential candidate Oleg Carev got beaten pretty badly at the TV station of ICTV in Kiev, where he arrived to participate in a live program "Freedom of Speech".
http://ria.ru/world/20140415/1003943613.html

Carev say, that despite violence and threats on his life, he does not intend to withdraw his candidature.

Another candidate, Mihal Dobkin also had a run-in with violence.

This is getting more interesting by the minute. The theatre of absurdity:
After Carev got beaten up, the prosecution office in Kiev opened a criminal case against him for splitting the territorial unity of Ukraine.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/371729

Probably because he talked to the protesters in South-East, trying to understand their position?

That will remove him from the presidency run.

He was the only candidate, who was ready to represent the whole country, and not just the western regions.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 15, 2014, 12:44:23 PM
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^^^ I don't think that the CIA will allow his participation in the elections.

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April 15, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
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^^^ I don't think that the CIA will allow his participation in the elections.

Yeah... the perfect solution. Ban him, and there won't be anyone from the Eastern Ukraine in the fray. Why can't they just declare Yulia Tymoshenko as the next president? Why wasting so much money on such a rigged election?
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To the casual consumer of McMedia happy meals, the Ukrainian crisis is a consequence of Russia’s yearning for empire lost, a Nazi-style Anschluss that began with Crimea and will end, judging by the big-font hysteria, somewhere near Alaska.

For the more sober-minded observer, however, whose worldview has not been vandalized by misguided Russophobic inclinations, the reality of the situation is a bit more complicated.

Some of the US brands, such as McDonalds are quite popular in Russia. Russian nationalists should engage in a non-violent campaign aimed at the total boycott of such brands.

And they should stop using computers and phones. And they shouldn't use their oil also because more than 25% is mined with german and dutch rigs Smiley

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April 15, 2014, 01:48:03 PM
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And they should stop using computers and phones. And they shouldn't use their oil also because more than 25% is mined with german and dutch rigs Smiley

Just because there is no computer / phone production in Romania, that doesn't mean that there are no such industries in Russia. There are a lot of Russian brands as well, although the foreign brands might be more popular. The same goes for mining rigs.
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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I always thought that Lada Niva is much more off-road capable and reliable than a tank Smiley

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April 15, 2014, 03:12:52 PM
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4 people killed by the Ukrainian army in the Kramatorsk airport. Many more wounded.

The heavily armed Ukrainian army has launched a full-scale attack on protesters who were armed with sticks and baseball bats. Machine guns and RPGs were used against the protesters. At least four people were killed, all of them protesters. The remaining protesters have evacuated the airport, and are retreating towards the city center.

Also, an unknown number of protesters have been killed by the Ukrainian army and the Right sector militants in Slavyansk. The battle is going on.
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April 15, 2014, 03:15:00 PM
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4 people killed by the Ukrainian army in the Kramatorsk airport. Many more wounded.

The heavily armed Ukrainian army has launched a full-scale attack on protesters who were armed with sticks and baseball bats. Machine guns and RPGs were used against the protesters. At least four people were killed, all of them protesters. The remaining protesters have evacuated the airport, and are retreating towards the city center.

Also, an unknown number of protesters have been killed by the Ukrainian army and the Right sector militants in Slavyansk. The battle is going on.
http://ria.ru/world/20140415/1004030295.html

Slavjansk is under siege with APCs and tanks:
http://ria.ru/world/20140415/1004021157.html

According to one of the resistance members, Blackwater is taking part in airport massacre.

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Ukrainian fighter jet shot down near Kramatorsk.

Details not available.

http://rt.com/on-air/
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April 15, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
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Russia stopped transfer of military equipment from Crimea to Ukraine, as Russia is under international self-imposed obligation not to deliver weapons to hostspots.
http://www.rg.ru/2014/04/15/priostanovka-anons.html

No reason to give Nazis more people to kill their own people with.

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April 15, 2014, 03:23:40 PM
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Well... Turchinov just made his decision to follow Hitler, Mussolini, etc. steps Roll Eyes

Puppet scum.
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April 15, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
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Ukrainian fighter jets bombed Karamatorsk airfield. Several civilian injuries from the bombing.
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April 15, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
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Ukrainian fighter jet shot down near Kramatorsk.

Details not available.

http://rt.com/on-air/

Well... Turchinov just made his decision to follow Hitler, Mussolini, etc. steps Roll Eyes

Puppet scum.

Ukrainian fighter jets bombed Karamatorsk airfield. Several civilian injuries from the bombing.

http://rt.com/news/kramatorsk-ukraine-attack-army-664/
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“They started negotiating with the people’s militia, which is in control of the airfield. The shooting started unexpectedly. There are injured among the people’s militia, and there may be deaths,” they said.

This sounds like a typical US strategy. Imitate talks, then kill everyone.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 15, 2014, 03:28:55 PM
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At least 500 Ukrainian soldiers in 20 armored vehicles have entered Slavyansk. Protesters are ready to fight them.
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Last edit: April 15, 2014, 03:53:45 PM by Nemo1024
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 During the Olympic games, one comment from a Norwegian commentator caught my attention. A Ukrainian female biatlonist (I think, I didn't keep up with the events that much), was poised to get gold on the final run, and the commentator said: "Look at her, her country is on the way to disintegration and civil war, yet look at her go for the gold medal!" That comment puzzled me back then - Maidan protests didn't yet enter their most violent phase.
It carries a whole new weight now.

German gutter publication Bild sent a petition to Bundestag to remove Russian T-34 from a memorial near Brandenburg gates in Berlin "in connection with Russian tanks threatening Ukraine and the whole of Europe".
http://www.bfm.ru/news/254611?doctype=news
Are they off their rocker completely. Last people checked, it were Nazi-controlled tanks from Ukrainian Army, that are threatening Ukrainian people in breech of §17 of Ukrainian Constitution. Looks like Bild is associating with the Nazis and wants them to return to Germany without any awkward reminders.

Medvedev said in a short address that "Ukraine is on a brink of Civil War and that is frightening".
http://ria.ru/world/20140415/1004027821.html
"Everyone who blames Russia for holding Ukraine by the throat, must help Kiev".
"The West must give Ukraine a real help, and not instructions to militants in that country."

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Dave Harpe 15.04.2014 15:49

How about this headline:

Neo Nazis Begin Ethnic Cleansing in Eastern Ukraine.

I can't help but think that they want to make sure not many Russians can vote when they hold their upcoming "election" .

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There are several confirmed deaths among anti-government activists in Kramatorsk, reports war correspondent and member of the Russian Presidential Council of Human Rights, Maksim Shevchenko. According to Shevchenko, who is currently in the Donetsk region and receives feeds from human rights activists in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, the airport has been captured by troops. Kramatorsk activists reporting on live internet channels, however, claim that they are still holding their positions following the attack.

Fighting not yet finished in Kramatorsk.
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April 15, 2014, 04:47:21 PM
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According to the latest news, it is (for now):
http://ria.ru/world/20140415/1004044329.html

Also:
http://novorus.info/news/policy/15239-rossiya-gotova-nanesti-sokrushitelnyy-udar-v-sluchae-esli-goryachie-golovy-v-kieve-ne-odumayutsya.html

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Poccия тaкжe cчитaeт нeпpиeмлeмыми плaны Киeвa o пpивлeчeнии OOH к yчacтию в cвoиx пpoтивoпpaвныx дeйcтвияx в югo-вocтoчныx peгиoнax Укpaины. B cлyчae нeoбxoдимocти миpoтвopчecкий кoнтингeнт бyдeт нaпpaвлeн caмoй Poccиeй и вoвлeчeниe в кoнфликт пocтopoнниx cил нe oпpaвдaнo.

Пoкa Poccия, пo cлoвaм Лaвpoвa, oжидaeт oбъeктивнyю инфopмaцию oт миccии OБCE, кoтopaя иccлeдyeт cитyaцию в Cлaвянcкe. Имeннo Poccия нacтoялa нa oтпpaвкe миccии OБCE в этoт peгиoн, и тeпepь ждёт oбъeктивныx фaктoв, o пpoиcxoдящeм тaм.

Russia does not consider plans of coup government in Kiev to have UN troops involved in illegal activities. If absolutely necessary, Russia will send its peacekeeping troops itself, without involving foreign forces into the conflict.

According to Lavrov Russia currently awaits reports from OSCE from Slavjansk, whom Russia directed to go there.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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