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February 11, 2022, 07:35:18 PM
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Yes he is from Pakistan and migrated to SA for better cricket future. In Pakistan there is lot of talent for cricket but due to corrupt system talent is neglected and players who have relatives in PCB makes it to playing 11. Imam ul Haq (nephew of Inzamam), Azam Khan ( the fat giant is son of Moin khan), Usman Qadir ( son of Abdul qadir) are few living examples of current time. Imran tahir has played 20 tests and 107 ODIs for SA, so it's a good migration for him.

This issue of nepotism is present in all of the South Asian boards and there is no quick fix solution. Even in the Indian team, useless players like Hard dick Pandya were retained in the squad for many years, despite not contributing either with the bat or with the ball. And in the end, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and T Natarajan finds themselves out of the team. Even from Bangladesh, I have heard about similar stories. But SENA nations are more professional when it comes to selection. Their selection polices are very unbiased. 
I agree nepotism is big problem but not in team, instead its in management as far as Indian cricket is concern. So i think you're mixing nepotism with favoritism.


I don't have much knowledge about Indian team family backgrounds so I can't comment on them but in the Pakistan team, yes there is a lot of nepotism. Remember the Akmal brothers (Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal), both remained in the team together for a long time even one of them does not have good performance, the other brother ensures/pressurzies that he plays in the team.

Coming to the PSL, the unbeaten Multan team faced their defeat against Lahore and this makes the tournament even more interesting. From today we have allowed 50% attendance in the stadium and from 16 feb, there will be 100% crowd attendance allowed.


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February 11, 2022, 11:37:47 PM
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I don't have much knowledge about Indian team family backgrounds so I can't comment on them but in the Pakistan team, yes there is a lot of nepotism. Remember the Akmal brothers (Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal), both remained in the team together for a long time even one of them does not have good performance, the other brother ensures/pressurzies that he plays in the team.
Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal are brother who play cricket but where does the nepotism comes in if they do not have anyone in the management that are fast tracking them in the team. Unless there is no one helping them stay in the team you can accuse them of nepotism. Kamran Akmal was the best keeper batsman available for Pakistan during that time and Umar Akmal was a decent batsman.
 
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I don't have much knowledge about Indian team family backgrounds so I can't comment on them but in the Pakistan team, yes there is a lot of nepotism. Remember the Akmal brothers (Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal), both remained in the team together for a long time even one of them does not have good performance, the other brother ensures/pressurzies that he plays in the team.
Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal are brother who play cricket but where does the nepotism comes in if they do not have anyone in the management that are fast tracking them in the team. Unless there is no one helping them stay in the team you can accuse them of nepotism. Kamran Akmal was the best keeper batsman available for Pakistan during that time and Umar Akmal was a decent batsman.
 
We can't say there is no nepotism, because going through the history of Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal it is clear his father is a senior administrator in the Pakistan Cricket. Both are able players, but somewhere they might've used the influence. Other than Umar and Kamran, there is Adnan Akmal who is also a cricketer. Kamran Akmal's wife is the daughter of former test cricketer Mohammad IIyas. Umar Akmal's wife is daughter of former Pakistani leg spinner Abdul Qadir. Babar Azam who is an able cricketer is cousin of Akmal brothers.

With all this getting tied to cricket we can't say there is no nepotism. There is nepotism, still those players are able to give good performance unlike the way they entered the team.
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February 12, 2022, 01:43:04 AM
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Yes he is from Pakistan and migrated to SA for better cricket future. In Pakistan there is lot of talent for cricket but due to corrupt system talent is neglected and players who have relatives in PCB makes it to playing 11. Imam ul Haq (nephew of Inzamam), Azam Khan ( the fat giant is son of Moin khan), Usman Qadir ( son of Abdul qadir) are few living examples of current time. Imran tahir has played 20 tests and 107 ODIs for SA, so it's a good migration for him.

This issue of nepotism is present in all of the South Asian boards and there is no quick fix solution. Even in the Indian team, useless players like Hard dick Pandya were retained in the squad for many years, despite not contributing either with the bat or with the ball. And in the end, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and T Natarajan finds themselves out of the team. Even from Bangladesh, I have heard about similar stories. But SENA nations are more professional when it comes to selection. Their selection polices are very unbiased. 
I agree nepotism is big problem but not in team, instead its in management as far as Indian cricket is concern. So i think you're mixing nepotism with favoritism.

Guy like Pandya comes from very humble background and had virtually zero backing when he started his career. I don't like his personality at all when it comes to discipline, attitude etc but i can't point finger on him as far as nepotism is concern.

I have never seen nepotism when selectors select the National team and i admire this quality of BCCI because sometime local management neglect this very attitude when selecting Ranji, club team etc.

Venky and Nattu are talented players but i can't blame selectors because in recent time Indian bench strength is getting bigger. Its nice headache for cricket loving country but tough on selectors and they are bound to make mistake sometimes. Nattu was injured btw (surgery i suppose).

If nepotism is there like you mentioned then where are Arjun Tendulkar, Rohan Gavaskar, Binny etc?


Sunil Gavaskar tried getting his son Rohan Gavaskar into the Indian side but was not able to due to his performance. Another name is Angad Bedi the son of Bishen Singh Bedi was a big failure in cricket but got some odd acting jobs in Bollywood and is now known as an actor. Sachin Tendulkar son Arjun Tendulkar has already made his debut but has yet to get recognised. If nepotism was part of Indian cricket then these guys would have been part of the Indian team.

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February 12, 2022, 02:09:10 AM
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Coming to the PSL, the unbeaten Multan team faced their defeat against Lahore and this makes the tournament even more interesting. From today we have allowed 50% attendance in the stadium and from 16 feb, there will be 100% crowd attendance allowed.

Yeah.. it was quite shocking to see Multan going down by such a big margin. Fakhar Zaman and Kamran Ghulam destroyed the Multan bowlers during the first 10 overs and after that the match slipped further from their hands. Blessing Muzarabani, who had an exceptional match against the Zalmi leaked 48 runs from his 4 overs this time. Even then the target was not out of reach. But then, then the Lahore bowlers proved to be too hot to handle (Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, Zaman Khan and Rashid Khan).

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February 12, 2022, 02:47:43 AM
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But then, then the Lahore bowlers proved to be too hot to handle (Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, Zaman Khan and Rashid Khan).

 Lahore Qalanders has the best bowling side due to which I can see they are the favorites to win this year's title.

I don't have much knowledge about Indian team family backgrounds so I can't comment on them but in the Pakistan team, yes there is a lot of nepotism. Remember the Akmal brothers (Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal), both remained in the team together for a long time even one of them does not have good performance, the other brother ensures/pressurzies that he plays in the team.
Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal are brother who play cricket but where does the nepotism comes in if they do not have anyone in the management that are fast tracking them in the team. Unless there is no one helping them stay in the team you can accuse them of nepotism. Kamran Akmal was the best keeper batsman available for Pakistan during that time and Umar Akmal was a decent batsman.
 

I would not say that kamran Akmal was the best keeper but he was the only keeper we had in those times. Many times, Umar Akmal was out of form and selection committee wanted to replace him but then the only keeper Kamran Akmal insists that if umar akmal is out of team, he would also not play. This left no choice for the board to keep the both players in the team.


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February 12, 2022, 03:51:42 AM
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Yeah.. it was quite shocking to see Multan going down by such a big margin. Fakhar Zaman and Kamran Ghulam destroyed the Multan bowlers during the first 10 overs and after that the match slipped further from their hands. Blessing Muzarabani, who had an exceptional match against the Zalmi leaked 48 runs from his 4 overs this time. Even then the target was not out of reach. But then, then the Lahore bowlers proved to be too hot to handle (Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, Zaman Khan and Rashid Khan).

Lahore Qalandars are doing too good under the captaincy of Shaheen Shah Afridi. Hafeez and Salt made there contribution later in the inning to take the total to 182. This breaks the winning streak of Multan Sultan. Bad luck for those who made bet on MS win because of there unbeaten record.
Meanwhile team of expats aka Oman was beaten by national team of Nepal in first T20I. Nepal is emerging team and may be very soon it reaches level of Afghanistan and made there way to main ICC events.
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February 12, 2022, 05:50:34 AM
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IPL 2022 auction starts today. A total of 590 players will go under the hammer in a two days affair. A total of 10 franchisee will be participating in the auction this year. This year who will be the most expensive player? Any guess? I think it will be an Indian player this time.

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February 12, 2022, 06:13:47 AM
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IPL 2022 auction starts today. A total of 590 players will go under the hammer in a two days affair. A total of 10 franchisee will be participating in the auction this year. This year who will be the most expensive player? Any guess? I think it will be an Indian player this time.
600 total, they recently added 10 more players (u19), the ones who already fits the criteria.

Captains are in demand this time (Iyer), including all rounders. In foreign players category Windies players like Holder/Alzarri Joseph and Proteas players are going to attract war bids, i hope. Warner should be in demand too.

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600 total, they recently added 10 more players (u19), the ones who already fits the criteria.

Captains are in demand this time (Iyer), including all rounders. In foreign players category Windies players like Holder/Alzarri Joseph and Proteas players are going to attract war bids, i hope. Warner should be in demand too.
Lyer is the most expensive player in this season as he was bought by Kolkata Knight Riders for 12.5 crore,  Ramada is the second bought by Punjan Kings for 9.25 crore and shikhar dhawan 8.25 crore also goes to punjab Kings. You can check rates of other players here.
RCB is in search of new captain as kohli after seven seasons as there captain stepped down as captain after last IPL edition.
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Lahore Qalandars are doing too good under the captaincy of Shaheen Shah Afridi. Hafeez and Salt made there contribution later in the inning to take the total to 182. This breaks the winning streak of Multan Sultan. Bad luck for those who made bet on MS win because of there unbeaten record.
Meanwhile team of expats aka Oman was beaten by national team of Nepal in first T20I. Nepal is emerging team and may be very soon it reaches level of Afghanistan and made there way to main ICC events.
Yesterday's win have big impact on PSL league table because now Multan Sultans already at top with Lahore Qalanders at second spot and Islamabad United having third spot with today's win against Quetta Gladiators can give them second spot is very interesting, and now these three teams have good chance for qualifying into play-offs and for last and fourth spot we have Peshawar Zalmi and Quetta Gladiators, but Karachi Kings need just 2 wins which can bring back them into limelight for having spot into play-offs very good and interesting situation which is creating good fans influence as well.

First match at Lahore have very big crowd and now many feeling in today and tomorrow matches surely we are going to have same level of fans which is very good.

I love Nepal team as they are doing very good recently and yesterday's was really great because once I was feeling they will lose but at the end they have done good job for good win.

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February 12, 2022, 10:09:47 AM
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600 total, they recently added 10 more players (u19), the ones who already fits the criteria.

Captains are in demand this time (Iyer), including all rounders. In foreign players category Windies players like Holder/Alzarri Joseph and Proteas players are going to attract war bids, i hope. Warner should be in demand too.
Lyer is the most expensive player in this season as he was bought by Kolkata Knight Riders for 12.5 crore,  Ramada is the second bought by Punjan Kings for 9.25 crore and shikhar dhawan 8.25 crore also goes to punjab Kings. You can check rates of other players here.
RCB is in search of new captain as kohli after seven seasons as there captain stepped down as captain after last IPL edition.

Bravo goes back to CSK again. IPL auctioneer could not handle the pressure I guess,  collapsed during the auction. He is said to be stable now. Charu sharma will now continue with the auction proceedings. I am not sure what else this guy's knows? I never knew that he had an experience in doing that too.

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February 12, 2022, 10:12:22 AM
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First match at Lahore have very big crowd and now many feeling in today and tomorrow matches surely we are going to have same level of fans which is very good.

I love Nepal team as they are doing very good recently and yesterday's was really great because once I was feeling they will lose but at the end they have done good job for good win.
In PSL, two teams from Islamabad, Quetta and Peshawar will make it to semis along with Multan and lahore. Yes there is more participation of crowd in lahore than in karachi.
Nepal had there second encounter with another team of expats i.e. UAE. This time Nepal wasn't able to win. UAE gave a target of 192, in reply Nepal manage to score 167 only.
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All rounders are in demands ridiculously. CSK and MI are being cheeky but that's the only reason they are successful franchise. Rajasthan Royal seems to grab fair amount of fine players according to Batting-bowling combination.

OZ are not attracting much bids because of their commitment ( Pak Tour clashing with IPL). Same with English players, their record is shit in India so no wonder no one willing to bid on them, Roy was steal tho.  


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All rounders are in demands ridiculously. CSK and MI are being cheeky but that's the only reason they are successful franchise. Rajasthan Royal seems to grab fair amount of fine players according to Batting-bowling combination.

OZ are not attracting much bids because of their commitment ( Pak Tour clashing with IPL). Same with English players, their record is shit in India so no wonder no one willing to bid on them, Roy was steal tho.  


Australian players sold in 2022 IPL received much less then what they received Last year. You are right, since they will miss start of IPL that's why they are bought at less price. Pat Cummins goes to KKN for $1.34m while Warner in A$1.16m goes to Delhi. Steve Smith and Matthew Wade remain unsold in first round.
English players are not required anymore because of there recent bad performance in last T20 series as well in Ashes.
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Holy cow... Ishan kishan (WK+Opener)

That was unexpected for this guy INR 15.25 crore by MI. RCB got Harshal Patel and Hasarangsa for INR 10.75 crore each. It is raining money for now. Till now Ishan Kishan is the most expensive player for IPL 2022. I do not think any franchise will bid for English players this time as they have not performed last year and also the humiliating defeat is Ashes.

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All rounders are in demands ridiculously. CSK and MI are being cheeky but that's the only reason they are successful franchise. Rajasthan Royal seems to grab fair amount of fine players according to Batting-bowling combination.
OZ are not attracting much bids because of their commitment ( Pak Tour clashing with IPL). Same with English players, their record is shit in India so no wonder no one willing to bid on them, Roy was steal tho.  
Australian players sold in 2022 IPL received much less then what they received Last year. You are right, since they will miss start of IPL that's why they are bought at less price. Pat Cummins goes to KKN for $1.34m while Warner in A$1.16m goes to Delhi. Steve Smith and Matthew Wade remain unsold in first round.
English players are not required anymore because of there recent bad performance in last T20 series as well in Ashes.

After watching this I have to say that they approached the bidding really well and Even though the prices are a little less for the Australian players I would say the prices absolutely reasonable and nothing too crazy so far.
I am interested to see the destination of Matthew Wade and Steve Smith as these two can be the most important players of any team.

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That was unexpected for this guy INR 15.25 crore by MI. RCB got Harshal Patel and Hasarangsa for INR 10.75 crore each. It is raining money for now. Till now Ishan Kishan is the most expensive player for IPL 2022. I do not think any franchise will bid for English players this time as they have not performed last year and also the humiliating defeat is Ashes.

Ishan kishan base price was 2 crore but he was sold for 15 crore INR. The guy has played only 3 ODI and 5 T20I for India. I really have no idea how they are paying so much money for average player. Ishan is now the second most expensive Indian player in IPL till date. Let's see what  benefit this 15 crore player gave to Mumbai.
He hasn't got big experience playing for the Indian cricket team, but he was the captain for U19 team during the year 2016. He have played good number of IPL matches, and his performance seems to be consistent which is the reason for his high pay on the auction. During 2018 auction he was bought by Mumbai Indians. In that season he is the highest run scorer for Mumbai Indians with with 516 runs from 14 matches. Maybe that can be a reason for paying this money on him.
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Holy cow... Ishan kishan (WK+Opener)

That was unexpected for this guy INR 15.25 crore by MI. RCB got Harshal Patel and Hasarangsa for INR 10.75 crore each. It is raining money for now. Till now Ishan Kishan is the most expensive player for IPL 2022. I do not think any franchise will bid for English players this time as they have not performed last year and also the humiliating defeat is Ashes.
Kamine paani ki tarah paisa bahate hai. Kishan is bit expensive but at the same time he was with MI for so long and part of their team building plan, earlier they were paying peanuts for him.

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February 12, 2022, 04:17:20 PM
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That was unexpected for this guy INR 15.25 crore by MI. RCB got Harshal Patel and Hasarangsa for INR 10.75 crore each. It is raining money for now. Till now Ishan Kishan is the most expensive player for IPL 2022. I do not think any franchise will bid for English players this time as they have not performed last year and also the humiliating defeat is Ashes.

Ishan kishan base price was 2 crore but he was sold for 15 crore INR. The guy has played only 3 ODI and 5 T20I for India. I really have no idea how they are paying so much money for average player. Ishan is now the second most expensive Indian player in IPL till date. Let's see what  benefit this 15 crore player gave to Mumbai.
He hasn't got big experience playing for the Indian cricket team, but he was the captain for U19 team during the year 2016. He have played good number of IPL matches, and his performance seems to be consistent which is the reason for his high pay on the auction. During 2018 auction he was bought by Mumbai Indians. In that season he is the highest run scorer for Mumbai Indians with with 516 runs from 14 matches. Maybe that can be a reason for paying this money on him.
An inexperienced player is being charged an extremely high price for 15.25 crores. The price should be less than 10 crores or 12 crores at most. However, SRH ruined the game. Mumbai Indians made their first purchase of the day today, and it's a massive deal for Ishan Kishan! That was such a silly move on their part. Neither Quinton de Kock nor Trent Boult were chosen over Ishan Kishan. It doesn't make sense to me.
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