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As far as i remember he got injured in last ODI series against Australia, that's why he was ruled out from the NewZealand tour (T-20 and ODI) he's not part of the test squad for quite some time, guess 1-2 years. He's making come back in upcoming ODI series vs South Africa. It looks like fitness is a major issue for majority of the Indian players, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Shikhar Dhawan, Hardik Pandya, Ishant Sharma, Jasprit Bumrah was injured but he is making a come back in the New Zealand, Deepak Chahar and Rohit Sharma who will sit out till the IPL and these injuries should be a major concern as the BCCI should focus on giving them proper guidance in giving them the best training and must concentrate on fitness. Getting into the form after injury might be really difficult task for that IPL will really help them.But Indian players playing too much games is the reason for players injury? or its just normal? |
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Haunebu
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March 04, 2020, 08:25:24 AM |
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Giving opportunities for new players is not bad when the senior players are injured and that is how they built a team for the future, unfortunately they did not perform like expected as the wicket was new for them and it is a learning experience for the youngsters, if they would have performed we will never talk about their experimentation but i am sure they put forward the best team possible and they failed miserably.
Giving opportunities at the right time and place is what matters even more. Also, this was definitely not the best team as you say. Getting into the form after injury might be really difficult task for that IPL will really help them.But Indian players playing too much games is the reason for players injury? or its just normal?
I don't think its related to playing too many games. Its just part and parcel of the game and it happens to every sportsman now and then. It comes down to luck at the end of the day which is why it is completely normal. IPL might rejuvenate many players like Hardik, Dhawan, Chahar, Bhuvi etc which is why it might help many returning players in a big way. |
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March 04, 2020, 11:05:17 AM |
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As far as i remember he got injured in last ODI series against Australia, that's why he was ruled out from the NewZealand tour (T-20 and ODI) he's not part of the test squad for quite some time, guess 1-2 years. He's making come back in upcoming ODI series vs South Africa. It looks like fitness is a major issue for majority of the Indian players, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Shikhar Dhawan, Hardik Pandya, Ishant Sharma, Jasprit Bumrah was injured but he is making a come back in the New Zealand, Deepak Chahar and Rohit Sharma who will sit out till the IPL and these injuries should be a major concern as the BCCI should focus on giving them proper guidance in giving them the best training and must concentrate on fitness. Fitness might be one of concern but I feel too much games has contributed to these injuries. India has been playing a lot of matches and the more you play the more chances are that you might get injured. |
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March 04, 2020, 04:39:27 PM |
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IPL might rejuvenate many players like Hardik, Dhawan, Chahar, Bhuvi etc which is why it might help many returning players in a big way.
Sanju Samson is one player who has performed exceptionally well in the IPL, but failed to do the same while playing for the senior side. As you pointed out, there are others such as Hardik and Dhawan, but they are like regulars in the national side. This edition of the IPL may offer great opportunities for players such as Navdeep Saini, Khaleel Ahmed.etc to cement their place in the senior side. Anyway, there is extreme competition for the limited number of available slots. |
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March 04, 2020, 04:42:14 PM |
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I don't think its related to playing too many games. Its just part and parcel of the game and it happens to every sportsman now and then. It comes down to luck at the end of the day which is why it is completely normal.
IPL might rejuvenate many players like Hardik, Dhawan, Chahar, Bhuvi etc which is why it might help many returning players in a big way.
Playing too much games will increase the chance of getting injured and more over every human needs rest for a while,if they go complete match after match whole year then they will get mental stressed and also muscle injuries will occur. And I heard that IPL might be postponed or canceled if corona attacks more people in India from local news. Is there anything news related from officials of BCCI? |
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March 04, 2020, 04:44:23 PM |
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IPL might rejuvenate many players like Hardik, Dhawan, Chahar, Bhuvi etc which is why it might help many returning players in a big way.
Sanju Samson is one player who has performed exceptionally well in the IPL, but failed to do the same while playing for the senior side. As you pointed out, there are others such as Hardik and Dhawan, but they are like regulars in the national side. This edition of the IPL may offer great opportunities for players such as Navdeep Saini, Khaleel Ahmed.etc to cement their place in the senior side. Anyway, there is extreme competition for the limited number of available slots. Navdeep saini was give an opportunity in the recent series with NZ. I won't say he performed badly but he can improve more. IPL will help newcomers to cement a seat in the national squad but the competition is so fierce that you do not get a lot of chance. |
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March 04, 2020, 05:04:59 PM |
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Navdeep saini was give an opportunity in the recent series with NZ. I won't say he performed badly but he can improve more. IPL will help newcomers to cement a seat in the national squad but the competition is so fierce that you do not get a lot of chance.
The Indian selectors do give opportunities for younger players in the T20 side every now and then. Navdeep Saini was lucky, as he got opportunity to play a few ODI matches as well. The real problem is that there are very few open slots available in the national team. Only when some of the regular players get injured the youngsters are given chances. |
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March 04, 2020, 08:55:44 PM |
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IPL might rejuvenate many players like Hardik, Dhawan, Chahar, Bhuvi etc which is why it might help many returning players in a big way.
Sanju Samson is one player who has performed exceptionally well in the IPL, but failed to do the same while playing for the senior side. As you pointed out, there are others such as Hardik and Dhawan, but they are like regulars in the national side. This edition of the IPL may offer great opportunities for players such as Navdeep Saini, Khaleel Ahmed.etc to cement their place in the senior side. Anyway, there is extreme competition for the limited number of available slots. Sanju Samson is interesting cricketer and looks strong when batting but he has big problem - Consistency- even in the IPL, Most of times he gives below average performance (Opposite to his talent and expectations) and sometime out of nowhere he gets his team out from the crisis. Khaleel is disappointing example for everyone so far, Management still backing him because he's left arm bowler as left arm provides different angle to batsmen in cricket, otherwise he can't make into zonal teams. @everyone : Guys, can we move this discussion into T-20 thread? . Discussing T-20 and IPL selection in Test Thread seems odd IMO. |
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Mitchell Johnson is one of the big critic of Virat, be it personally or professional so he never miss any chance. but this statement “Dikhadunga” seems fake to me. i was following all the press conference and media briefing and didn't heard anything about it, until now. IMO, it's only a matter of time before Virat loses the top position as a batsman; the only thing that can save his position is Indian cricket board arranging a load of series within the homeground (India) and not anywhere else.  Virat already lost the No 1 test batsman position in the Test format. About another statement  70 international 100s, majority in away tours with healthy average. he going with some bad phase but its just a matter of time.   
Food for thought : When any SENA country makes Green wicket which favor home team and including 5 seamers in the squad ( Zero spinner) then its good for cricket but imagine the outcry if they tour India and facing 5 spinners instead of fast bowling. it applies to every SENA country Double standard or Victorian mindset? Fast bowling is good, spin is bad? |
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March 04, 2020, 09:37:20 PM |
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Mitchell Johnson is one of the big critic of Virat, be it personally or professional so he never miss any chance. but this statement “Dikhadunga” seems fake to me. i was following all the press conference and media briefing and didn't heard anything about it, until now. IMO, it's only a matter of time before Virat loses the top position as a batsman; the only thing that can save his position is Indian cricket board arranging a load of series within the homeground (India) and not anywhere else. Virat already lost the No 1 test batsman position in the Test format. About another statement 70 international 100s, majority in away tours with healthy average. he going with some bad phase but its just a matter of time.
Food for thought : When any SENA country makes Green wicket which favor home team and including 5 seamers in the squad ( Zero spinner) then its good for cricket but imagine the outcry if they tour India and facing 5 spinners instead of fast bowling. it applies to every SENA country Double standard or Victorian mindset? Fast bowling is good, spin is bad? Currently Virat is best batsman in all formats and every batsman face thinks like this he can bounce back in near future no worries. |
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March 04, 2020, 10:01:30 PM |
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~snip~
Mitchell Johnson is one of the big critic of Virat, be it personally or professional so he never miss any chance. but this statement “Dikhadunga” seems fake to me. i was following all the press conference and media briefing and didn't heard anything about it, until now.
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Mate, if that "dikhadunga" statement is fake, then Indian Express should really be sued by someone in India: Virat Kohli struggles to come to terms with comprehensive New Zealand series losshttps://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/virat-kohli-struggles-to-come-to-terms-with-comprehensive-new-zealand-series-loss-6295456/When New Zealand were chasing, he (Kohli) was heard shouting at his teammates: “Jab India mein yeh log aayengey, tab dikha doonga.” A cry for revenge. |
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March 04, 2020, 11:41:42 PM |
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~snip~
Mitchell Johnson is one of the big critic of Virat, be it personally or professional so he never miss any chance. but this statement “Dikhadunga” seems fake to me. i was following all the press conference and media briefing and didn't heard anything about it, until now.
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Mate, if that "dikhadunga" statement is fake, then Indian Express should really be sued by someone in India: Virat Kohli struggles to come to terms with comprehensive New Zealand series losshttps://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/virat-kohli-struggles-to-come-to-terms-with-comprehensive-new-zealand-series-loss-6295456/When New Zealand were chasing, he (Kohli) was heard shouting at his teammates: “Jab India mein yeh log aayengey, tab dikha doonga.” A cry for revenge. Don't want to sue them for spreading good joke. this whole incident "Dikhadunga" and Mitchelll Johnson is fun for average people, as it derives more click bait and audience. On the other hand, important thing is to look at " Stump Mic" before any solid conclusion i would like if NZ broadcaster could release all audiotape. which is not possible because it always favors home condition, Same thing happend in SA vs Aus (Sand paper saga) or in any Indian home series ( recent Steve-Ishant). In short this blame game is fucked up and have tons of layers, all we as fan can do is laugh-react-move on. |
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March 04, 2020, 11:51:20 PM |
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Mitchell Johnson is one of the big critic of Virat, be it personally or professional so he never miss any chance. but this statement “Dikhadunga” seems fake to me. i was following all the press conference and media briefing and didn't heard anything about it, until now. IMO, it's only a matter of time before Virat loses the top position as a batsman; the only thing that can save his position is Indian cricket board arranging a load of series within the homeground (India) and not anywhere else. Virat already lost the No 1 test batsman position in the Test format. About another statement 70 international 100s, majority in away tours with healthy average. he going with some bad phase but its just a matter of time.
Food for thought : When any SENA country makes Green wicket which favor home team and including 5 seamers in the squad ( Zero spinner) then its good for cricket but imagine the outcry if they tour India and facing 5 spinners instead of fast bowling. it applies to every SENA country Double standard or Victorian mindset? Fast bowling is good, spin is bad? Currently Virat is best batsman in all formats and every batsman face thinks like this he can bounce back in near future no worries. I wouldn't say that he is the best batsman in all formats as Smith has played just as well in the past year since coming back so I would rate them as equal. Also those charts show that he has played more innings away which of course is why we see him have more hundreds away from home. Also keep in mind that Smith had a year out of the game and I believe that Smith would easily be the best batsman if he wasn't out for the year. |
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March 05, 2020, 12:05:45 AM |
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I wouldn't say that he is the best batsman in all formats as Smith has played just as well in the past year since coming back so I would rate them as equal. Also those charts show that he has played more innings away which of course is why we see him have more hundreds away from home. Also keep in mind that Smith had a year out of the game and I believe that Smith would easily be the best batsman if he wasn't out for the year.
Oh well.... about more inning in away condition or overall, again let check smith's stat? Please allow me to pop your bubble. Smith don't even come close when we talk about all 3 formats. In Test format sometimes ( Sometimes) i rate smith higher than Kohli but its cat and mouse scenario for both of them. And when it comes to limited over cricket then smith is shit player over all, there are tons of players who are better than him. so i never consider smith as limited over cricketer, he can play fine inning once a while similar to any batsmen.    |
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March 05, 2020, 03:07:38 PM |
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^^^^ Let's not debate whether Kohli or Smith is the better batsmen. That said, there can be no denying that Kohli is going through a rough patch right now, irrespective of the format (I am not ignoring his 254 against South Africa and 136 against Bangladesh, but they came against weak opposition in flat tracks). On the other hand, Smith has scored runs against quality opposition in conditions more favorable for the bowlers.
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You might want to read posts again.. Edit: You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well. Not sure what to say heheh. Smith is World Class Test batsman (Rank no 1 now) and All time great. but yeah he's average batsman in the shorter format as many players are ahead of him in ODI and T-20. |
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March 05, 2020, 07:01:11 PM |
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You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well. |
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March 06, 2020, 06:34:00 PM |
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You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well. You need to rethink about your statement as he is one of best batsman in recent time because he is producing runs and giving very good results to his team which are helping them a lot Aussies are mostly done many strategies and they keep doing because they have really amazing system and good things to increase performance. |
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March 06, 2020, 07:39:34 PM |
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You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well. You need to rethink about your statement as he is one of best batsman in recent time because he is producing runs and giving very good results to his team which are helping them a lot Aussies are mostly done many strategies and they keep doing because they have really amazing system and good things to increase performance. Scoring not alone makes them best batsmen,their techniques and range of shots. Okay lets take Sehwag and Dravid as an example,Sehwag scores more runs than dravid on most of the matches but based on techniques Dravid is most stronger than Sehwag so now who you will say as best batsmen? |
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