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July 07, 2020, 06:21:39 PM
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Aguilar, Wong fined 20K for 5-on-5 scrimmage, will undergo swab testing

I understand the excitement of playing basketball again but these guys should follow the protocol that large gatherings are not allowed at the moment, not just in sports but for other regular activities as well. Just because IATF allows the resume of practice, players, even how popular they are, will just conduct a scrimmage.

For sure, there are other people here and not just players (obviously). The fine is small. Should serve a lesson if they will increase the fine.

In addition by this.

Here's another Aguilar breaking the quarantine protocols.

Japeth Aguilar spotted in La Union surfing town amid tourist ban:

On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

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July 07, 2020, 07:31:04 PM
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On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

Yes. That's one of the proposals I posted here before that might be considered if the league wants to push to resume. Since different PH regions do have their own quarantine status, PBA can choose to play outside Manila on a location where there is less strict status.

However, one problem is, that needs a decent budget since they have to rent the venue throughout the conference (around 3 months or less). Players and staff are not allowed to go back home (mostly in Manila) as part of staying in the said bubble. Regular testing should also be mandatory. PBA voice out concerns before about their loss so I doubt they will consider doing that.

Another problem is the location itself. Mostly, LGUs of the provinces don't allow visitors from those heavily infected areas. The reason some are against at "Balik-Probinsya" program that resulted in confirmed cases from those provinces with zero-cases.

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July 08, 2020, 12:13:31 AM
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On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

People there will strongly disagree if the PBA will be resumed there. Most town's Mayors are in the impression of building their names that they will not allow the virus in their respective provinces so they will limit accepting people from other places. One good record reference for election if they will able to keep it like that.

There is also no venue there that can accommodate all PBA players and staffs and as @harizen said, a big money is needed and their revenue will only rely on Television viewers and to think that their rating is not that good even before the pandemic hits the country, except when Brgy. Ginebra was on the Finals.

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July 08, 2020, 01:38:10 AM
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People there will strongly disagree if the PBA will be resumed there. Most town's Mayors are in the impression of building their names that they will not allow the virus in their respective provinces so they will limit accepting people from other places. One good record reference for election if they will able to keep it like that.
Yes, how come one can think that this can push through with pandemic? They had been taking the virus lightly where it has taken lives especially to the vulnerable individuals. Life is valuable compared to any game in life.

It had to to proceed with safety first not compromising the regulations and the health of others. One that think it can be push through is really a hardcore fan of basketball specifically the PBA.

So, we had to wait first the possible cure to this virus before anything else.
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Aguilar, Wong fined 20K for 5-on-5 scrimmage, will undergo swab testing

I understand the excitement of playing basketball again but these guys should follow the protocol that large gatherings are not allowed at the moment, not just in sports but for other regular activities as well. Just because IATF allows the resume of practice, players, even how popular they are, will just conduct a scrimmage.

For sure, there are other people here and not just players (obviously). The fine is small. Should serve a lesson if they will increase the fine.

In addition by this.

Here's another Aguilar breaking the quarantine protocols.

Japeth Aguilar spotted in La Union surfing town amid tourist ban:

On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/japeth-aguilar-adrian-wong-fined-p20-000-told-to-undergo-swab-test-a795-20200706

It is also stated in that article that they are fined for violating this protocol and fined P20K, told to undergo a swab test, and 30 hours of community service. I thought to practice is allowed right now but I guess some places are still restricting it.
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Yes, how come one can think that this can push through with pandemic? They had been taking the virus lightly where it has taken lives especially to the vulnerable individuals. Life is valuable compared to any game in life.

I agree, however if they can comply to all the necessary procedures before going into idea of resuming the game. Then perhaps, it would be a good to go, I think? Not sayin' that they should deliberately continue the league neither not feared the virus itself but if they can do what the NBA league does then I think they are going to be fine. Have some sort of necessary test, quarantine, and whatnot. After all, staffs or employees who usually not seen on the camera needs the jobs to open again.

It had to to proceed with safety first not compromising the regulations and the health of others. One that think it can be push through is really a hardcore fan of basketball specifically the PBA.

So, we had to wait first the possible cure to this virus before anything else.

They somehow need to keep going, at least, bud  Wink.
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People there will strongly disagree if the PBA will be resumed there. Most town's Mayors are in the impression of building their names that they will not allow the virus in their respective provinces so they will limit accepting people from other places. One good record reference for election if they will able to keep it like that.
Yes, how come one can think that this can push through with pandemic? They had been taking the virus lightly where it has taken lives especially to the vulnerable individuals. Life is valuable compared to any game in life.

It had to to proceed with safety first not compromising the regulations and the health of others. One that think it can be push through is really a hardcore fan of basketball specifically the PBA.

So, we had to wait first the possible cure to this virus before anything else.

I heard a bout the news today that the Philippines lend money from Japan, so I search the full story and I find it here.

Philippines secures P23.5-billion Japan loan vs coronavirus

As we can read in the report, the Philippine economy is already struggling, we would not borrow money if we have enough budget to combat the covid-19 pandemic, so it's easy to say to not allow business operations as it might result to the increase of the covid-19 cases but we are not seeing the worst effect of the economy if we don't have a source to fund our needs and to pay our debts.

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People there will strongly disagree if the PBA will be resumed there. Most town's Mayors are in the impression of building their names that they will not allow the virus in their respective provinces so they will limit accepting people from other places. One good record reference for election if they will able to keep it like that.
Yes, how come one can think that this can push through with pandemic? They had been taking the virus lightly where it has taken lives especially to the vulnerable individuals. Life is valuable compared to any game in life.

It had to to proceed with safety first not compromising the regulations and the health of others. One that think it can be push through is really a hardcore fan of basketball specifically the PBA.

So, we had to wait first the possible cure to this virus before anything else.

I heard a bout the news today that the Philippines lend money from Japan, so I search the full story and I find it here.

Philippines secures P23.5-billion Japan loan vs coronavirus

As we can read in the report, the Philippine economy is already struggling, we would not borrow money if we have enough budget to combat the covid-19 pandemic, so it's easy to say to not allow business operations as it might result to the increase of the covid-19 cases but we are not seeing the worst effect of the economy if we don't have a source to fund our needs and to pay our debts.

For the funds release for everything regarding on tackling this issue for sure the government funds will be drained and we don't have a choice so that we can kick up and continuously fight the virus, But it's good to see that majority of cities are now on GCQ since the economy is starting to kick up, and hopefully the private companies will help securing their workers and follow the health protocols so that we will beat this crisis and everything will go back to normal.

I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

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July 08, 2020, 10:52:35 AM
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I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

Same here and I am not against open the PBA season as long as they will do all the precautionary measures to keep the league free from covid-19.
The amount stated above is for the purpose of the covid-19 response only, if we look at it, it tells us how much this pandemic has already damage our economy.

For simple math, I like to illustrate.

Revenue (from private) = Tax = Economy.

if we kill that revenue, our economy will sink

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People there will strongly disagree if the PBA will be resumed there. Most town's Mayors are in the impression of building their names that they will not allow the virus in their respective provinces so they will limit accepting people from other places. One good record reference for election if they will able to keep it like that.
Yes, how come one can think that this can push through with pandemic? They had been taking the virus lightly where it has taken lives especially to the vulnerable individuals. Life is valuable compared to any game in life.

It had to to proceed with safety first not compromising the regulations and the health of others. One that think it can be push through is really a hardcore fan of basketball specifically the PBA.

So, we had to wait first the possible cure to this virus before anything else.

You have a point here bro but we must also see to it that our economy is moving. President Duterte has hinted in his report that the vaccine's availability is by December so this month onward we have to deal this virus without a cure but we can't hide from it. Businesses need to resume so that people will have work to feed their family but of course they have to always follow the minimum health protocol against covid.

The PBA's office has not yet release the guidelines of the league's resumption but i think safety of players and all others involved is the utmost priority. They can be in a bubble until the end of the season and arena would be crowdless, that would be the most safety scenario i think.
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I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

Same here and I am not against open the PBA season as long as they will do all the precautionary measures to keep the league free from covid-19.
The amount stated above is for the purpose of the covid-19 response only, if we look at it, it tells us how much this pandemic has already damage our economy.

For simple math, I like to illustrate.

Revenue (from private) = Tax = Economy.

if we kill that revenue, our economy will sink

That's the reason why the government is slowly resuming back those businesses coming back since they cannot afford to much on this pandemic if theirs no revenue will came for sure we will sink and luckily we see some lights regarding on these kinds of events and I'm glad that we have a clear insight on when the game will start kicking.

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July 08, 2020, 01:40:01 PM
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I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

Same here and I am not against open the PBA season as long as they will do all the precautionary measures to keep the league free from covid-19.
The amount stated above is for the purpose of the covid-19 response only, if we look at it, it tells us how much this pandemic has already damage our economy.

For simple math, I like to illustrate.

Revenue (from private) = Tax = Economy.

if we kill that revenue, our economy will sink

If this is the case then why does Tolentino wanted to reduce the tax of people working at home? Since we are talking about revenue, reducing the tax means having a negative effect on the economy, right?

https://www.rappler.com/nation/265915-tolentino-wants-tax-deductions-employees-working-from-home

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July 08, 2020, 07:50:45 PM
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If this is the case then why does Tolentino wanted to reduce the tax of people working at home? Since we are talking about revenue, reducing the tax means having a negative effect on the economy, right?

That is reasonable. Remember that Meralco company does some magic in our electric consumption.

Just imagine the 8 hours or more of electricity consumption that supposed to be paid by companies now being shouldered by workers. That's not fair.

I agree, however if they can comply to all the necessary procedures before going into idea of resuming the game. Then perhaps, it would be a good to go, I think? Not sayin' that they should deliberately continue the league neither not feared the virus itself but if they can do what the NBA league does then I think they are going to be fine.

The problem is PBA is totally different from the NBA. NBA has lots of options for venues with hotels. They have big finance.

The preparations are not limited only to testing, quarantine, and safety measures. It needs big money to cover other aspects such as players and staff facilities, everyday rent for the venue and hotels, etc. Players are not allowed to go to their homes since they will be in the bubble. After all those spendings, the revenue is still in question because of no-audience. As I said in my previous post, they will only rely on television/pc viewers.

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July 08, 2020, 10:15:40 PM
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I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

Same here and I am not against open the PBA season as long as they will do all the precautionary measures to keep the league free from covid-19.
The amount stated above is for the purpose of the covid-19 response only, if we look at it, it tells us how much this pandemic has already damage our economy.

For simple math, I like to illustrate.

Revenue (from private) = Tax = Economy.

if we kill that revenue, our economy will sink

If this is the case then why does Tolentino wanted to reduce the tax of people working at home? Since we are talking about revenue, reducing the tax means having a negative effect on the economy, right?

https://www.rappler.com/nation/265915-tolentino-wants-tax-deductions-employees-working-from-home

That's different because taxes paid by employees is very small compared to the amount paid by a corporation.
In fact, the government has increase the threshold of non taxable income for employees, so this benefited the employees who are only earning average salary. I noticed that our government now is protecting the small employees while they want to maximize the tax from big companies or corporation.
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I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

Same here and I am not against open the PBA season as long as they will do all the precautionary measures to keep the league free from covid-19.
The amount stated above is for the purpose of the covid-19 response only, if we look at it, it tells us how much this pandemic has already damage our economy.

For simple math, I like to illustrate.

Revenue (from private) = Tax = Economy.

if we kill that revenue, our economy will sink

If this is the case then why does Tolentino wanted to reduce the tax of people working at home? Since we are talking about revenue, reducing the tax means having a negative effect on the economy, right?

https://www.rappler.com/nation/265915-tolentino-wants-tax-deductions-employees-working-from-home

They are working from home, obviously, they are consuming their own electricity and using other things that would increase their bill.

The government is taking care of these people and you want to make them continuously do that? This is a good decision by the government. Instead, they could just maximize the tax they are getting in big companies or corporations that can still normally function despite the pandemic.
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July 09, 2020, 08:27:08 AM
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I'm so excited to see the first tip off hopefully we they can restart the season as soon as possible when everything is controlled.

Same here and I am not against open the PBA season as long as they will do all the precautionary measures to keep the league free from covid-19.
The amount stated above is for the purpose of the covid-19 response only, if we look at it, it tells us how much this pandemic has already damage our economy.

For simple math, I like to illustrate.

Revenue (from private) = Tax = Economy.

if we kill that revenue, our economy will sink

If this is the case then why does Tolentino wanted to reduce the tax of people working at home? Since we are talking about revenue, reducing the tax means having a negative effect on the economy, right?

https://www.rappler.com/nation/265915-tolentino-wants-tax-deductions-employees-working-from-home

They are working from home, obviously, they are consuming their own electricity and using other things that would increase their bill.

They could help more if they will just exempt from tax those who are working at home, but we know our government, they are taxing everything, even the online sellers now are being obliged to pay taxes.

The government is taking care of these people and you want to make them continuously do that? This is a good decision by the government. Instead, they could just maximize the tax they are getting in big companies or corporations that can still normally function despite the pandemic.

They should go for the big corporation as some of these corporations are not even playing the right taxes, one example is the ABS CBEnd, they are exposed now of underreporting their taxes to the government and it looks like their franchise will not be renewed.

Not sure if the ABS-Sports is also affected with this, we should concern about this since they are also covering basketball particularly the MPBL.

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July 09, 2020, 10:40:25 AM
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Fresh from his 5 on 5 game controversy amid the GCQ status in Metro Manila, Japeth Aguilar strikes again lol. Why do this guy can't follow simple rules, is it that they think they untouchables because they are famous? If the trend continues, PBA resumption would be a disaster since some players can't follow protocols.

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Fresh from his 5 on 5 game controversy amid the GCQ status in Metro Manila, Japeth Aguilar strikes again lol. Why do this guy can't follow simple rules, is it that they think they untouchables because they are famous? If the trend continues, PBA resumption would be a disaster since some players can't follow protocols.

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Please, don't think like that, let's just exclude Japeth and those other players who are violators, PBA is still good with them, and it increases the chances of the SMB to win in the conference without Japeth, lol.

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July 09, 2020, 11:44:12 AM
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If this is the case then why does Tolentino wanted to reduce the tax of people working at home? Since we are talking about revenue, reducing the tax means having a negative effect on the economy, right?

That is reasonable. Remember that Meralco company does some magic in our electric consumption.

Just imagine the 8 hours or more of electricity consumption that supposed to be paid by companies now being shouldered by workers. That's not fair.

That makes sense. I remembered all of the posts I've read about people complaining about how large their bill is even though they are not really consuming that much. I don't know if that is a flaw on their side or maybe a misread of their bills since we all know how they make decisions since the lockdown happened like delaying their payment and some free bills.

I hope though that they pass this bill and make sure that these employers will be doing their job on correctly calculating the reduced tax these employees will be receiving. They're doing their jobs so I do hope they get something they deserve in return.

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Now, this is really a good music to the ears of PBA fans. Just read it on my social media feed and i don't have link to it but i think this is legit news.

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JUST IN | Resumption of games in PBA, pro leagues recommended; MPBL, other semi-pros not allowed until vaccine is available   

MEMBERS from various sports organizations, including the Philippine Basketball Association, met with the Department of Health, the Games and Amusement Board and the Philippine Sports Commission, which created a Joint Administrative Order on Thursday to discuss certain protocols to be followed in the resumption of training for professional and semi-pro leagues.

Atty. Melvin Mendoza represented the PBA as league commissioner Willie Marcial was in another meeting.   

In the joint administrative order by GAB, PSC and DoH, the following general guidelines were recommended:

1. Contact sports and activities for non-professional sports are not allowed at any time, until an effective vaccine and established standard of care is put in place for COVID-19 cases.

2. Contact sports and activities for professional sports are allowed in low risk areas, provided that the minimum public health standards are observed at all times.               

Under the 4Ps framework (person/participants, public/private location, physical environment and participation), the NCR, whose most municipalities are under the General Community Quarantine or under Moderate Risks Area, can have a maximum participants of five people attending the training. They are allowed to conduct training in a private or public place.

Unless the NCR is put on high risk or will return to Enhanced Community Quarantine (ECQ), games of the PBA and other pro leagues can resume, but might do it behind closed door or in just one secured area until such time an effective vaccine or appropriated standard of care for COVID-19 cases is developed.
       
On resumption of live audience, non-professional events such as tournaments, competitive events, and athletic meets shall not be permitted. Professional sporting events may be allowed in low-risk areas, provided such events are compliant to the minimum public health standards.

This developed as the PBA is set to meet with the coaches of 12 participating teams on Friday afternoon. Immediately after the meeting, Commissioner Marcial will gather the rest of the board members regarding their plans to resume training and eventually, the games.

So there we go, we will just wait on what will the outcome of the meeting tomorrow but it's sure that PBA will resume unless NCR will be reverted back to ECQ.
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