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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 19, 2022, 01:53:36 PM
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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.
That was a good game for SMB even without JMF, they are still hanging there and hoping for more wins so they can have the chance for next round.
The game between Magnolia vs Bay Area is indeed a great match, it looks like a finals. Magnolia is down by at least 3 points only and still have the chance to tie or force an OT. As expected this is a high scoring game, watchin the whole quarter and its really hard to pick who will win because there's no safe lead for both teams.
There are still a few minutes left and the lead is very much manageable by Magnolia. If they lose this game, they still should be proud of themselves as Dragons are used to dominating their opponent but what we are witnessing now is a close game where Magnolia is not giving up this game.
It was a great game between this two top teams, both are not giving up but eventually Bay Area prevail and handed Magnolia their second loss this conference. I see how good Bay Area, and now they are the leading team which guarantee them a spot in the next round. There's nothing to be ashamed of with Magnolia, they played well and for sure they will bounce back against Bay Are when they meet again. Few more games before going into the next round, other teams are still working very hard for that spot, this is a very unpredictable conference so far.
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November 19, 2022, 02:53:10 PM
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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.
That was a good game for SMB even without JMF, they are still hanging there and hoping for more wins so they can have the chance for next round.
The game between Magnolia vs Bay Area is indeed a great match, it looks like a finals. Magnolia is down by at least 3 points only and still have the chance to tie or force an OT. As expected this is a high scoring game, watchin the whole quarter and its really hard to pick who will win because there's no safe lead for both teams.
There are still a few minutes left and the lead is very much manageable by Magnolia. If they lose this game, they still should be proud of themselves as Dragons are used to dominating their opponent but what we are witnessing now is a close game where Magnolia is not giving up this game.
It was a great game between this two top teams, both are not giving up but eventually Bay Area prevail and handed Magnolia their second loss this conference. I see how good Bay Area, and now they are the leading team which guarantee them a spot in the next round. There's nothing to be ashamed of with Magnolia, they played well and for sure they will bounce back against Bay Are when they meet again. Few more games before going into the next round, other teams are still working very hard for that spot, this is a very unpredictable conference so far.

Bay Area Dragon (BAD) won against Magnolia today which we can see is that a beautiful and good matchup the match are close both teams are keeping their momentum and defending very well but bay area dragon are very though team as we all know that their import scored well even though the beast abueva trying to break his play but Powell is dominating. Abueva can't break his play.
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November 19, 2022, 03:54:22 PM
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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.
That was a good game for SMB even without JMF, they are still hanging there and hoping for more wins so they can have the chance for next round.
The game between Magnolia vs Bay Area is indeed a great match, it looks like a finals. Magnolia is down by at least 3 points only and still have the chance to tie or force an OT. As expected this is a high scoring game, watchin the whole quarter and its really hard to pick who will win because there's no safe lead for both teams.
There are still a few minutes left and the lead is very much manageable by Magnolia. If they lose this game, they still should be proud of themselves as Dragons are used to dominating their opponent but what we are witnessing now is a close game where Magnolia is not giving up this game.
It was a great game between this two top teams, both are not giving up but eventually Bay Area prevail and handed Magnolia their second loss this conference. I see how good Bay Area, and now they are the leading team which guarantee them a spot in the next round. There's nothing to be ashamed of with Magnolia, they played well and for sure they will bounce back against Bay Are when they meet again. Few more games before going into the next round, other teams are still working very hard for that spot, this is a very unpredictable conference so far.

Bay Area Dragon (BAD) won against Magnolia today which we can see is that a beautiful and good matchup the match are close both teams are keeping their momentum and defending very well but bay area dragon are very though team as we all know that their import scored well even though the beast abueva trying to break his play but Powell is dominating. Abueva can't break his play.
With that win, the Bay Area Dragons secured the top spot in the conference... or not Cheesy.
There is one win for them to be in the top 2 spot. The chances of it to happen is very low but it can still happen. If Ginebra will win their remaining 4 games, they will get the top spot even though the Bay Area Dragons win their final game against the TNT. It's because Ginebra won against them, and I guess that's the rule, right?

No one can stop Powell and that's a fact. His lowest score is 32 points against Converge and Magnolia. That's how dominating he is in the PBA and it's a good choice for the Dragons to pick them over Nicholson because with him, they have a point guard that can initiate some plays but at the same time, they have a scoring guard that can score more than 30+ points in every single game. Nicholson is big and a scorer as well but Powell's contribution to the team is way better than him and we've seen it in their performance every game. No one can stop this beast even in the playoffs. Every team in the playoffs will be having a hard time defeating this team.

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November 19, 2022, 05:57:20 PM
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Bay Area Dragon (BAD) won against Magnolia today which we can see is that a beautiful and good matchup the match are close both teams are keeping their momentum and defending very well but bay area dragon are very though team as we all know that their import scored well even though the beast abueva trying to break his play but Powell is dominating. Abueva can't break his play.

Powell is more relaxed than any other import that Abueva plays with. Maybe the scout knew already that Abueva will try, but we continue to see the productions of Powell. It was a great and entertaining game between these two great teams; we see that Mags really has the capabilities to compete, though they lose the game, but it's not a kind of game Bay area always have, Mags gives them the shake and almost snatches it from them.

Another great game for the fans, nothing to say, but Mags really gave the Dragons the tough game today, not sure what's the handicap is for this game, but it's only 6 points for the Dragon to secure the win.

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November 19, 2022, 11:31:54 PM
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That was a good game for SMB even without JMF, they are still hanging there and hoping for more wins so they can have the chance for next round.

Although a win is a win, SMB is supposedly have a upper hand against the Phoenix FuelMasters even JuneMar Fajardo is not around. SMB is really noticeably struggling this conference and I think that was because of inconsistent import and Coach Leo Austria's not changing tactics.

Next game against Terrafirma, they should win no matter what. Terrafirma now finally breaks the losing curse and might still enjoying their recent win that's why maybe they will try to do it again against SMB. If SMB will be upset here, they will be put in a tight spot as their remaining games will be a big challenge as they will face TNT and Meralco respectively.

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November 19, 2022, 11:49:01 PM
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There are still a few minutes left and the lead is very much manageable by Magnolia. If they lose this game, they still should be proud of themselves as Dragons are used to dominating their opponent but what we are witnessing now is a close game where Magnolia is not giving up this game.

Still proud even on losing? What a crap. Don't take Bay Area Dragon as a super tough team to beat.

Bay Area Dragon is not a team that are out of the reach of the locals. They are just doing their best to win.

In the event that a team loses against the Dragons and the final score is really close, don't feel proud because it went that way.
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November 20, 2022, 07:24:39 AM
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Here is my bet for today's games:

Northport Batang Pier vs Converge Fiberxers

Since Magnolia lost against the Dragons yesterday, Converge is now tied with them at 8-2. They will want to win this game in order to clinch the top 2 and a twice-to-beat advantage in playoffs. They are in a roll win 7 wins streak and looking to extend it to 8 against the Batang Pier.

TNT Katropa vs BGSM

Though I am a fan of Barangay Ginebra, I think TNT needs the win here more than Ginebra. TNT needs all the wins they can get since they are currently still out of the top 8 and tied with San Miguel and Meralco. They will be in a better position if they will beat Ginebra in this game. So, I know that they will give it all to win this one.

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November 20, 2022, 09:34:03 AM
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Here is my bet for today's games:

Northport Batang Pier vs Converge Fiberxers

Since Magnolia lost against the Dragons yesterday, Converge is now tied with them at 8-2. They will want to win this game in order to clinch the top 2 and a twice-to-beat advantage in playoffs. They are in a roll win 7 wins streak and looking to extend it to 8 against the Batang Pier.

End of first half and the Batang Pier is leading by 3 point and the odds ML for Converge is @1.80 now so i'm taking it because i think they will come back and win this game against the Batang Pier and extend their winning streak.

Good luck to us.
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November 20, 2022, 10:32:36 AM
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Here is my bet for today's games:

Northport Batang Pier vs Converge Fiberxers

Since Magnolia lost against the Dragons yesterday, Converge is now tied with them at 8-2. They will want to win this game in order to clinch the top 2 and a twice-to-beat advantage in playoffs. They are in a roll win 7 wins streak and looking to extend it to 8 against the Batang Pier.

End of first half and the Batang Pier is leading by 3 point and the odds ML for Converge is @1.80 now so i'm taking it because i think they will come back and win this game against the Batang Pier and extend their winning streak.

Good luck to us.
Looks like you lost your bet because the NorthPort has a double-digit lead as of this moment and there's only 4 minutes remaining.

Maybe before you took that bet, I hope you looked the players who played in Converge. Their import Quincy Miller didn't play because they already secured themselves in the playoffs along with Bay Area and Magnolia. A winning streak is useless if your import accidentally got injured in their remaining games and it will be a disaster for the team if he will not play in the playoffs. We know that's a good decision coming from Coach Aldin Ayo not to play his import. We know how impactful import is in our league and we've seen it tonight. The Batang Pier are on their way to win this game.

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November 20, 2022, 11:09:04 AM
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Looks like you lost your bet because the NorthPort has a double-digit lead as of this moment and there's only 4 minutes remaining.

Maybe before you took that bet, I hope you looked the players who played in Converge. Their import Quincy Miller didn't play because they already secured themselves in the playoffs along with Bay Area and Magnolia. A winning streak is useless if your import accidentally got injured in their remaining games and it will be a disaster for the team if he will not play in the playoffs. We know that's a good decision coming from Coach Aldin Ayo not to play his import. We know how impactful import is in our league and we've seen it tonight. The Batang Pier are on their way to win this game.

This is very important knowing that Converge is a team that really relies on their import without him inside the court is far from the performance that they can do when he is inside. His presence really changes the entire system of the team. I agree with you that the decision coach Ayo did is a good strategy to have a fresh import when playoffs start.

Winning streak is nothing if you have your best weapon because of an injury that can be avoided.

He choose his cards right allowing to give up this game and prepare for much tougher competitions.

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November 20, 2022, 12:23:55 PM
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Ginebra vs TNT, this game is very close at the moment.

Does anyone here know what was the point spread before the game? I missed this game actually, I like to bet live but I like to know what's the pregame better spread. Anyone here watching now?

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November 20, 2022, 01:18:44 PM
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Ginebra vs TNT, this game is very close at the moment.

Does anyone here know what was the point spread before the game? I missed this game actually, I like to bet live but I like to know what's the pregame better spread. Anyone here watching now?

Ginebra won the game, they had 2 bad execution in the 4th quarter with less than 1 minute in the clock.

First, Pogoy's bad pass resulted in a turnover, 2nd is the inbound pass than resulted to backcourt violation.
The game is not really for them, or Ginebra are just too good in crunch time.

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November 20, 2022, 04:20:37 PM
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Ginebra vs TNT, this game is very close at the moment.

Does anyone here know what was the point spread before the game? I missed this game actually, I like to bet live but I like to know what's the pregame better spread. Anyone here watching now?

Ginebra won the game, they had 2 bad execution in the 4th quarter with less than 1 minute in the clock.

First, Pogoy's bad pass resulted in a turnover, 2nd is the inbound pass than resulted to backcourt violation.
The game is not really for them, or Ginebra are just too good in crunch time.

Import-less TNT plus an early injured Castro, but Poguy still there to compete it was just a bad mistake with his judgement with that two important plays that might send them to OT or maybe a possible snatch, it's just so happen that the pass is not that good both when he tried to pass it with Erram and that last chance in bounding the ball but Williams with an early cramp might be so exhausted.

Cross-court violation that give the Brgy another chance to extend their lead to a two possession ball game.

Nice try TNT but, Sunday is for the Brgy fans day!

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November 21, 2022, 03:04:16 AM
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Looks like you lost your bet because the NorthPort has a double-digit lead as of this moment and there's only 4 minutes remaining.

Maybe before you took that bet, I hope you looked the players who played in Converge. Their import Quincy Miller didn't play because they already secured themselves in the playoffs along with Bay Area and Magnolia. A winning streak is useless if your import accidentally got injured in their remaining games and it will be a disaster for the team if he will not play in the playoffs. We know that's a good decision coming from Coach Aldin Ayo not to play his import. We know how impactful import is in our league and we've seen it tonight. The Batang Pier are on their way to win this game.

This is very important knowing that Converge is a team that really relies on their import without him inside the court is far from the performance that they can do when he is inside. His presence really changes the entire system of the team. I agree with you that the decision coach Ayo did is a good strategy to have a fresh import when playoffs start.

Winning streak is nothing if you have your best weapon because of an injury that can be avoided.

He choose his cards right allowing to give up this game and prepare for much tougher competitions.
I agree because after all, Coach Ayo has been a coach for Collegiate level basketball competition, so he knows when to let his trump cards play and when not to.

Converge really played well in their first 2 seasons. They clinched the playoffs on their first season and it's a good achievement already though they lost at the first round and now on their 2nd season, they are on the top (currently 4th) which is a good achievement. The bad thing that I'm thinking though is Converge is an independent team and we've seen how SMC and MVP are milking independent teams. I just hope that Converge will not make unbalanced trades to these 2 big teams like what other teams are doing. I see a good future with the team with their current roster (maybe a bit of trades might help the team) and their current head coach.

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November 21, 2022, 03:36:24 AM
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Looks like you lost your bet because the NorthPort has a double-digit lead as of this moment and there's only 4 minutes remaining.

Maybe before you took that bet, I hope you looked the players who played in Converge. Their import Quincy Miller didn't play because they already secured themselves in the playoffs along with Bay Area and Magnolia. A winning streak is useless if your import accidentally got injured in their remaining games and it will be a disaster for the team if he will not play in the playoffs. We know that's a good decision coming from Coach Aldin Ayo not to play his import. We know how impactful import is in our league and we've seen it tonight. The Batang Pier are on their way to win this game.

This is very important knowing that Converge is a team that really relies on their import without him inside the court is far from the performance that they can do when he is inside. His presence really changes the entire system of the team. I agree with you that the decision coach Ayo did is a good strategy to have a fresh import when playoffs start.

Winning streak is nothing if you have your best weapon because of an injury that can be avoided.

He choose his cards right allowing to give up this game and prepare for much tougher competitions.
I agree because after all, Coach Ayo has been a coach for Collegiate level basketball competition, so he knows when to let his trump cards play and when not to.

Converge really played well in their first 2 seasons. They clinched the playoffs on their first season and it's a good achievement already though they lost at the first round and now on their 2nd season, they are on the top (currently 4th) which is a good achievement. The bad thing that I'm thinking though is Converge is an independent team and we've seen how SMC and MVP are milking independent teams. I just hope that Converge will not make unbalanced trades to these 2 big teams like what other teams are doing. I see a good future with the team with their current roster (maybe a bit of trades might help the team) and their current head coach.
They need to keep the team or if possible to get more athletic players, though I understand your point, but the team is already competitive. The coaching system brings the talents to show their individual skills. They are more confident now compared with the last season and, knowing coach Ayo, he really loves seeing his players to come up and compete. He will continue to develop them and will guide those young stars to be more competitive.

Though this season the big factor is their import but with the experienced they are gaining and the familiarities with each other, they will continue to chase that title.

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November 21, 2022, 02:32:04 PM
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Ginebra vs TNT, this game is very close at the moment.

Does anyone here know what was the point spread before the game? I missed this game actually, I like to bet live but I like to know what's the pregame better spread. Anyone here watching now?

Ginebra won the game, they had 2 bad execution in the 4th quarter with less than 1 minute in the clock.

First, Pogoy's bad pass resulted in a turnover, 2nd is the inbound pass than resulted to backcourt violation.
The game is not really for them, or Ginebra are just too good in crunch time.

Import-less TNT plus an early injured Castro, but Poguy still there to compete it was just a bad mistake with his judgement with that two important plays that might send them to OT or maybe a possible snatch, it's just so happen that the pass is not that good both when he tried to pass it with Erram and that last chance in bounding the ball but Williams with an early cramp might be so exhausted.

Cross-court violation that give the Brgy another chance to extend their lead to a two possession ball game.

Nice try TNT but, Sunday is for the Brgy fans day!

You are right, you never bet against the Ginebra in a Sunday game as usually, they will win, either from a strong come back or a dominant win. I still remember when they have a strong comeback after trailing a double-digit points against the SMB, I was discourage that time because I though SMB would already get the win.

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November 21, 2022, 03:35:24 PM
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You are right, you never bet against the Ginebra in a Sunday game as usually, they will win, either from a strong come back or a dominant win. I still remember when they have a strong comeback after trailing a double-digit points against the SMB, I was discourage that time because I though SMB would already get the win.

This is my mistake, even though I am a Ginebra fan, I bet on TNT that game because I thought that TNT will force a win against Ginebra. They almost did it though. Lesson learned, never bet against BGSM on a Sunday.

I lost both bets this Sunday. First with Converge and then on TNT. It is just not my day.

The round-robin is almost over. There are only 12 remaining games before the playoffs begin. I guess the Bay Area Dragons are secured of their top spot and twice-to-beat advantage. Since Ginebra won the game against TNT, they bumped up to the third spot in the rankings. They have a chance to snatch the #2 spot from Magnolia if they win most of their remaining games.

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November 21, 2022, 04:53:36 PM
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You are right, you never bet against the Ginebra in a Sunday game as usually, they will win, either from a strong come back or a dominant win. I still remember when they have a strong comeback after trailing a double-digit points against the SMB, I was discourage that time because I though SMB would already get the win.

This is my mistake, even though I am a Ginebra fan, I bet on TNT that game because I thought that TNT will force a win against Ginebra. They almost did it though. Lesson learned, never bet against BGSM on a Sunday.
I already learned my lesson, good to know you did learn yours, haha.

I lost both bets this Sunday. First with Converge and then on TNT. It is just not my day.

The round-robin is almost over. There are only 12 remaining games before the playoffs begin. I guess the Bay Area Dragons are secured of their top spot and twice-to-beat advantage. Since Ginebra won the game against TNT, they bumped up to the third spot in the rankings. They have a chance to snatch the #2 spot from Magnolia if they win most of their remaining games.



Converge was on a hot streak, who would have thought they'll lose to Northport, but seems like no streak is not broken this conference, so that's okay.
I guess Dragons is gonna earn the top spot but I'm not confident enough that they'll win it all, we have Ginebra, Meralco, TNT, and SMB that might give them a problem if they'll meat in the QF, SF, or the Finals.

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November 21, 2022, 08:41:51 PM
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You are right, you never bet against the Ginebra in a Sunday game as usually, they will win, either from a strong come back or a dominant win. I still remember when they have a strong comeback after trailing a double-digit points against the SMB, I was discourage that time because I though SMB would already get the win.

This is my mistake, even though I am a Ginebra fan, I bet on TNT that game because I thought that TNT will force a win against Ginebra. They almost did it though. Lesson learned, never bet against BGSM on a Sunday.
I already learned my lesson, good to know you did learn yours, haha.
This is what you called betting against the odds. Ginebra did a great job and plays agains TNT which I think the reason why they get the win. Ginebra most of the time get boosted by the crowd and that’s what happened here. I also have the same experience before and its fun to bet against your favorite team sometimes, you just didn’t get you luck here. Sunday game might be their luck, so this can be one of your basis the next time you place a bet.
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November 21, 2022, 09:34:52 PM
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Here is my bet for today's games:

Northport Batang Pier vs Converge Fiberxers

Since Magnolia lost against the Dragons yesterday, Converge is now tied with them at 8-2. They will want to win this game in order to clinch the top 2 and a twice-to-beat advantage in playoffs. They are in a roll win 7 wins streak and looking to extend it to 8 against the Batang Pier.

End of first half and the Batang Pier is leading by 3 point and the odds ML for Converge is @1.80 now so i'm taking it because i think they will come back and win this game against the Batang Pier and extend their winning streak.

Good luck to us.
Looks like you lost your bet because the NorthPort has a double-digit lead as of this moment and there's only 4 minutes remaining.

Maybe before you took that bet, I hope you looked the players who played in Converge. Their import Quincy Miller didn't play because they already secured themselves in the playoffs along with Bay Area and Magnolia. A winning streak is useless if your import accidentally got injured in their remaining games and it will be a disaster for the team if he will not play in the playoffs. We know that's a good decision coming from Coach Aldin Ayo not to play his import. We know how impactful import is in our league and we've seen it tonight. The Batang Pier are on their way to win this game.

My bad, I didn't bother to look at who's playing as I'm only monitoring the score via sportsbook. I could have bet the other way around if I knew that Miller didn't play in that game because on the bookies, they are the favorite to win but without an import, most likely they will lose and that's what happened.

Speaking of Miller who didn't play, i have read on my social media feed that the reason why coach Ayo didn't bother to field-in Miller because it is some sort of a punishment for him for not attending practice because he overslept due to the celebration of Miller's 30th birthday. Have coach Ayo fielded Miller, their winning streak could have not been broken yet but i think it was still a good decision to show the whole team that if anyone is messing around, they will be punished.
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