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December 03, 2022, 02:55:29 PM
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That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
I remembered again the non-contact call of Brian Heruela against Paul Lee during the bubble, but the referees called a foul on it. Cheesy

Well, they are just people even though they are professional referees. Referees in the NBA are doing many mistakes as well like not calling travels etc. The management has imposed a suspension on the said referee. I just hope that things like this will never happen especially on a professional league like the PBA. It's a non-bearing game for both of the teams anyway, but still, they must do what they must do, and it is to do correct calls.

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December 03, 2022, 03:24:43 PM
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That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
I remembered again the non-contact call of Brian Heruela against Paul Lee during the bubble, but the referees called a foul on it. Cheesy

Well, they are just people even though they are professional referees. Referees in the NBA are doing many mistakes as well like not calling travels etc. The management has imposed a suspension on the said referee. I just hope that things like this will never happen especially on a professional league like the PBA. It's a non-bearing game for both of the teams anyway, but still, they must do what they must do, and it is to do correct calls.

Even though their referees see professional but still they are human they are not perfect and sometimes they miss a call and that what's happening. But this miss call would not be happen again and the management will take an action about this and their referees must be in good condition, so that their calls are straight and avoid miss call. But for me it will be okay as we all know that they are human they are not perfect.

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December 03, 2022, 07:08:46 PM
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That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
I remembered again the non-contact call of Brian Heruela against Paul Lee during the bubble, but the referees called a foul on it. Cheesy

Well, they are just people even though they are professional referees. Referees in the NBA are doing many mistakes as well like not calling travels etc. The management has imposed a suspension on the said referee. I just hope that things like this will never happen especially on a professional league like the PBA. It's a non-bearing game for both of the teams anyway, but still, they must do what they must do, and it is to do correct calls.

They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.

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December 03, 2022, 09:39:18 PM
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They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.
This is not the first time we hear some negative feedbacks about the decision of the referees to make that call, if that is wrong then something is wrong with those referees which I think the league should really investigate. Every game is important to every players and viewers, we should not tolerate this kind of mistake because again this is not the first time. PBA should assure the quality of the referees and ensure us that they will officiate the game professionally. What more if that wrong calls happen in the finals, I'm sure the fans will outrage.
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December 03, 2022, 10:01:52 PM
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They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.

Missed calls happens whether it is a barangay league, PBA or NBA. They are just part of the game. I think the league needs to put some fine to the erring refs so it would happen less because it affects the game. But the refs are just human, on a high speed and intense game, they can make wrong calls sometimes. It is just them being human. Players and coaches already accepted that call when the game is over because they know it cannot be reversed anymore. Fans should move on too because there is no benefit in playing the "what ifs" of the situation. 

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December 03, 2022, 10:05:13 PM
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So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

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December 04, 2022, 10:35:01 AM
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So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.
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December 04, 2022, 10:49:11 AM
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So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.

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December 04, 2022, 11:32:34 AM
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They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.

Missed calls happens whether it is a barangay league, PBA or NBA. They are just part of the game. I think the league needs to put some fine to the erring refs so it would happen less because it affects the game. But the refs are just human, on a high speed and intense game, they can make wrong calls sometimes. It is just them being human. Players and coaches already accepted that call when the game is over because they know it cannot be reversed anymore. Fans should move on too because there is no benefit in playing the "what ifs" of the situation. 



I get your point and it's valid, but you know gambler's mindset, right? hahaha but kidding aside, refs are being fine if I'm not mistaken they are getting sanctions to the point that they can lose their job if there's a complaint regarding to how they initiate the calls, on the side of fans, nothing can be reverse so better to move on and forget about the game, just give the best wishes for the team and continue supporting them whatever happens the entertainment that the team provides is what is important to every viewers and fans.

So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.

TNT is not the kind of team that will missed the playoff most of the time, in fact it is not usual for this team. Just an overreactions from critics, and what do we expect from those, just  a good negative write up to attract readers or viewers, as simple as that but expect a bounce back for this MVP team next season.

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December 04, 2022, 11:46:34 AM
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So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.
TNT is still a great team though with a lot of good finish from previous conference, maybe they just don't have the chemistry yet but with regards to their talents we should not disregard it, this conference might not be for them and other teams are just so eager to at least get into the playoffs. Let's not just blame Coach Chot here, the whole team did their best its just that, its not enough. We have to move on and focus on the teams that are still playing, there will be more surprises for this conference for sure.

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December 04, 2022, 12:08:33 PM
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So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.
TNT is still a great team though with a lot of good finish from previous conference, maybe they just don't have the chemistry yet but with regards to their talents we should not disregard it, this conference might not be for them and other teams are just so eager to at least get into the playoffs. Let's not just blame Coach Chot here, the whole team did their best its just that, its not enough. We have to move on and focus on the teams that are still playing, there will be more surprises for this conference for sure.
They should make a move on Williams, he cannot stay with TNT as he will only destroy the chemistry. If one player is acting like a superstar and he wants special attention, that will affect the others and the bond will not be create. I though he will be the next Jason Castro, but I was wrong because the Castro I know is a very humble player despite being a talented one.

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December 04, 2022, 12:52:00 PM
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RoS was able to win their match against NLEX which secured their slot for the playoffs. They beat NLEX 110-100, a very decisive win. They will face the Top team in the conference right now, Bay Area Dragons. The Dragons have a twice-to-beat against Rain or Shine. I think it will be very difficult to win against the dragons, twice in a row. They have the advantage in height, import and camaraderie. It will be a tough job for Coach Yeng Guiao to command Rain or Shine to win against the top team, but I am beating they can surprise them in game 1. The dragons have a history of getting surprised with the tough defense that RoS can give.
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December 04, 2022, 01:19:41 PM
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RoS was able to win their match against NLEX which secured their slot for the playoffs. They beat NLEX 110-100, a very decisive win. They will face the Top team in the conference right now, Bay Area Dragons. The Dragons have a twice-to-beat against Rain or Shine. I think it will be very difficult to win against the dragons, twice in a row. They have the advantage in height, import and camaraderie. It will be a tough job for Coach Yeng Guiao to command Rain or Shine to win against the top team, but I am beating they can surprise them in game 1. The dragons have a history of getting surprised with the tough defense that RoS can give.

Good win but I would not expect they'll beat the Bay Area Dragon, last time they meet, Bay Area dominated them, they look like they are in a PBA D League. Coach Yeng had succeeded to be in the playoffs, but they are in a tough situation now.

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December 04, 2022, 02:15:22 PM
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So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.
Well, the players are different and he's got a full stack of those young talents. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he'll still do good and he can now focus on the Gilas.
Comparing TNT and Gilas isn't a thing for me, they are a different breeds of basketball players but we'll still see. We can't do anything about it but just to trust the process and Chot with his way of coaching it, hopefully, there could be some miracles for Gilas.

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December 04, 2022, 11:59:35 PM
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We can't do anything about it but just to trust the process and Chot with his way of coaching it, hopefully, there could be some miracles for Gilas.

Yes, no choice but to support instead the whole Gilas team whoever or whatever the lineup, coaching staff, and anything.

But it's good to support something that we really see improving and changing. They should also hear the people's stand related to it.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

That's not a good comparison, mate.

TNT suffers a blow at this conference and that impacted their rally. Injuries, consistency of import, Mikey Williams drama, etc.

Gilas is also not just composed of TNT players that's why it's not appropriate to have a conclusion like that.
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December 05, 2022, 07:24:46 AM
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If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

That's not a good comparison, mate.

TNT suffers a blow at this conference and that impacted their rally. Injuries, consistency of import, Mikey Williams drama, etc.

Gilas is also not just composed of TNT players that's why it's not appropriate to have a conclusion like that.

Only a few TNT players are with Gilas, maybe Pogoy, Erram, and  Kib Montalbo are only included in the roster, sorry not so familiar with the current update, that's only based on what I saw in their past games. Personally, what I don't like with Gilas are not the players but their coach, sorry again.

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December 05, 2022, 08:16:58 AM
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RoS was able to win their match against NLEX which secured their slot for the playoffs. They beat NLEX 110-100, a very decisive win. They will face the Top team in the conference right now, Bay Area Dragons. The Dragons have a twice-to-beat against Rain or Shine. I think it will be very difficult to win against the dragons, twice in a row. They have the advantage in height, import and camaraderie. It will be a tough job for Coach Yeng Guiao to command Rain or Shine to win against the top team, but I am beating they can surprise them in game 1. The dragons have a history of getting surprised with the tough defense that RoS can give.
It will be over in one game, that's for sure.

That is how confident I am with the Bay Area Dragons. I mean just look at how they dominated every single game. Well, they lost against Meralco but with only a single digit lead and to Ginebra which they lost by a huge margin.  Let's take note that the Bay Area Dragons didn't lose a single game with Powell as their import. Their 2 losses are when their import is Nicholson. I'm confident with the Dragons surpassing the first round, but still the ball is round, and we don't know what can happen.

They might be tested on the second round where they will face the winner of Converge-SMB. Both are strong teams and SMB doesn't have JMF on some of their games that's why they ended up on the 5th. Converge on the other hand played really well this conference as well so they might be tested on the second round. I would love to see the Dragons reaching the PBA Finals against Ginebra and this is my prediction as well. Bay Area Vs. Ginebra in the PBA Finals.

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December 05, 2022, 08:24:01 AM
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RoS was able to win their match against NLEX which secured their slot for the playoffs. They beat NLEX 110-100, a very decisive win. They will face the Top team in the conference right now, Bay Area Dragons. The Dragons have a twice-to-beat against Rain or Shine. I think it will be very difficult to win against the dragons, twice in a row. They have the advantage in height, import and camaraderie. It will be a tough job for Coach Yeng Guiao to command Rain or Shine to win against the top team, but I am beating they can surprise them in game 1. The dragons have a history of getting surprised with the tough defense that RoS can give.
It will be over in one game, that's for sure.

That is how confident I am with the Bay Area Dragons. I mean just look at how they dominated every single game. Well, they lost against Meralco but with only a single digit lead and to Ginebra which they lost by a huge margin.  Let's take note that the Bay Area Dragons didn't lose a single game with Powell as their import. Their 2 losses are when their import is Nicholson. I'm confident with the Dragons surpassing the first round, but still the ball is round, and we don't know what can happen.

They might be tested on the second round where they will face the winner of Converge-SMB. Both are strong teams and SMB doesn't have JMF on some of their games that's why they ended up on the 5th. Converge on the other hand played really well this conference as well so they might be tested on the second round. I would love to see the Dragons reaching the PBA Finals against Ginebra and this is my prediction as well. Bay Area Vs. Ginebra in the PBA Finals.

Coach Yeng beat his old team but that doesn't mean he will advance in the semi finals. Against the Bay Area Dragon with twice to beat disadvantage, that's not gonna happen, unless coach Yeng has found something that will beat the system of Bay Area.  Good luck to him, he is a veteran coach but he has past his prime.

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December 05, 2022, 11:47:35 AM
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RoS was able to win their match against NLEX which secured their slot for the playoffs. They beat NLEX 110-100, a very decisive win. They will face the Top team in the conference right now, Bay Area Dragons. The Dragons have a twice-to-beat against Rain or Shine. I think it will be very difficult to win against the dragons, twice in a row. They have the advantage in height, import and camaraderie. It will be a tough job for Coach Yeng Guiao to command Rain or Shine to win against the top team, but I am beating they can surprise them in game 1. The dragons have a history of getting surprised with the tough defense that RoS can give.
It will be over in one game, that's for sure.

That is how confident I am with the Bay Area Dragons. I mean just look at how they dominated every single game. Well, they lost against Meralco but with only a single digit lead and to Ginebra which they lost by a huge margin.  Let's take note that the Bay Area Dragons didn't lose a single game with Powell as their import. Their 2 losses are when their import is Nicholson. I'm confident with the Dragons surpassing the first round, but still the ball is round, and we don't know what can happen.

They might be tested on the second round where they will face the winner of Converge-SMB. Both are strong teams and SMB doesn't have JMF on some of their games that's why they ended up on the 5th. Converge on the other hand played really well this conference as well so they might be tested on the second round. I would love to see the Dragons reaching the PBA Finals against Ginebra and this is my prediction as well. Bay Area Vs. Ginebra in the PBA Finals.

Coach Yeng beat his old team but that doesn't mean he will advance in the semi finals. Against the Bay Area Dragon with twice to beat disadvantage, that's not gonna happen, unless coach Yeng has found something that will beat the system of Bay Area.  Good luck to him, he is a veteran coach but he has past his prime.

Comparing the stats and checking the capabilities to win against the Bay Area Dragon, I can go in your direction. Even coach Yeng advances and moves to the playoff. The chance of escaping the top seeders to move forward is next to impossible, unless he might found something that will break both the offense and defense capabilities of the visiting team.

Maybe moving to have that chance to play against the top seeder was already an achievement for him after being away from his former team and now coaching them back.

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December 05, 2022, 01:02:24 PM
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Maybe moving to have that chance to play against the top seeder was already an achievement for him after being away from his former team and now coaching them back.


It wasn't an achievement IMO, why? because the only reason why they will play the top seed because they are at the bottom.  Grin

Well, I think there's a chance to win, and if they will upset the Bay Area Dragon, that's the best achievement for me, even just winning in the elimination, it's like winning a championship since Bay Area is the best team this conference.

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