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August 16, 2014, 03:43:02 PM
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I am not sure what is this game Russians are playing with those trucks, but seeing that most of them are barely loaded is very strange.
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August 16, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
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I am not sure what is this game Russians are playing with those trucks, but seeing that most of them are barely loaded is very strange.

They realized after the ban of food from EU that they don't have enough for themselves and so sent only 1/10 of the cargo Wink.


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They realized after the ban of food from EU that they don't have enough for themselves and so sent only 1/10 of the cargo Wink.

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August 16, 2014, 04:24:03 PM
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Seems like Battalion Aidar and Ukrainian Amy has been pushed outside the Lugansk - Izvarino highway. If the news is true, then the Russian convoy can reach Lugansk without trouble.

@ 247crypto, when was the Zhdanovka picture taken? 4 hours ago , the Ukrainian army claimed that they have seized that village.
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August 16, 2014, 04:49:54 PM
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Ukie soldiers switch  sides and join DPR republic

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-soldiers-sides-and-join-the-donetsk-peoples-republic/5396219


"Anti-Putin" Alliance Fraying: Germany, Slovakia, Greece, Czech Republic Urge End To Russian Sanctions


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-16/anti-putin-alliance-fraying-germany-slovenia-greece-czech-republic-urge-end-russian-



Ukraine Plays Down Significance of Destruction of Russian Military Convoy
European Leaders Meet in Effort to Bring Ukraine, Russia to Negotiating Table

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-russia-seek-to-ease-tension-over-convoy-1408201146?mobile=y
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and certainly not Europe proper, which it is now quite clear, is far more reliant on Russia than vice versa.

LMAO.

Inflation in Russia is out of control climbing to near 8% .

Rosfnet ask for 40 billions help from the government and this will be taken from the pension fund.

Prices for certain foods will grow by 20%.

Crimea want out of the ban because it lacks milk, sugar, oil , potatoes and more... basically everything.

And the ruble is going to rubble down 9% since the start of the year.

Yup. Europe is the one hurt by sanctions.


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"Anti-Putin" Alliance Fraying: Germany, Slovakia, Greece, Czech Republic Urge End To Russian Sanctions

The problem is that in most of these countries, it is the opposition parties who are urging to end the sanctions against Russia. In the case with Germany, it is the SPD and Die Linke, while Syriza in Greece is also requesting an end to the sanctions.
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i'll just leave this here without comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lEiJmdom6Q
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Rebels claim that they have over-run Blagodatne, connecting Uspenka with the Donetsk People's Republic.

BTW... here is a pic of Chechen mercenaries fighting for the Kiev junta:

https://twitter.com/DYDAEB/status/500703357875793920



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and certainly not Europe proper, which it is now quite clear, is far more reliant on Russia than vice versa.

LMAO.

Inflation in Russia is out of control climbing to near 8% .

Rosfnet ask for 40 billions help from the government and this will be taken from the pension fund.

Prices for certain foods will grow by 20%.

Crimea want out of the ban because it lacks milk, sugar, oil , potatoes and more... basically everything.

And the ruble is going to rubble down 9% since the start of the year.

Yup. Europe is the one hurt by sanctions.

During the last years, inflation has always been around these figures. Wouldn't call this "climbing out of control". For example, in 2007 and 2008 the inflation rate was much higher, 11.87% and 13.28% correspondingly (for complete info see here). Regarding the dollar exchange rate, there is also nothing of the ordinary, these rates that we see today had already been reached before (the euro rate is more interesting in this respect, though)... Cool

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In Nizhny Novgorod 10 corpses arrived for burial: "died in Novorossiya".
It is Russians fighting in Ukraine. And it is their presence that prolongs the suffering. If there would be no Russian mercenaries and constant flow of military hardware the battle would have long been over and rebuilding could have started.




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Another plane was bought down but this time was mig-29 let's say a bit newer plane compared to the rest. It's either that:

1) the rebels have indeed a more sophisticated air defense
2) the mig is extremely easy to be brought down.

Which remind me that we have lost 24 mig-21 lancer in accidents. yeah 24!


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August 17, 2014, 01:54:48 PM
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Another plane was bought down but this time was mig-29 let's say a bit newer plane compared to the rest. It's either that:

1) the rebels have indeed a more sophisticated air defense
2) the mig is extremely easy to be brought down.

Which remind me that we have lost 24 mig-21 lancer in accidents. yeah 24!

They have taken out a lot of their enemy air force, mainly using MANPADs. I guess jets and helicopters are easier to take out than one would think. Especially helos which are a slower moving target.

The MiG-s are supposed to be harder to take down than the old Su-25's they were using though.
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August 17, 2014, 01:57:08 PM
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This made me laugh.



RT @OKoubara:" @ProfessorsBlogg, #NAF rebels not need weapons from #Russia. UkrArmy have left so many tanks; we don't have so many drivers!"
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August 17, 2014, 02:02:33 PM
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 24 min.
UNCONFIRMED #Ukraine authorities claim #Russia T72 main battle tanks observed in #Donetsk city. #cdnpoli


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 23 min.
#REPORTS #NAF have killed Alexei Zinchenko -commander of the #Ukraine 73rd marine center for special purposes. via @NovorossiaNews #cdnpoli


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 20 min.
REPORTS UNCONFIRMED that the NAF are assaulting #SaurMogila strategic hill by #Russia border. #cdnpoli #Ukraine


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 10 min.
MY TAKE: In the south half of #Donetsk & #Luhansk oblast #Ukraine troops routed. #Saurivka #Dyakove are surrounded. #Amvrosiivka vulnerable.


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 8 min.
MY TAKE: #UKraine troops in #Debaltseve #Alchevsk and east of there are in real danger of complete encirclement and capture.


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 7 min.
MY TAKE: To the north of #Luhansk city is an artillery zone mostly controlled by #Ukraine army. UKR claims capture of a N #Luhansk district


In the period from July 21 to August 5 the Ukrainian junta “gifted” to the Novorossiyian Armed Forces: tanks – 22 units; infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) – 26 units; armored personnel carriers (BTR) – 17 units; self-propelled guns (SAU) 2S9 NONA – 4 units; self-propelled guns (SAU) 2S1 Gvozdika (M1974 NATO index) – 4 units; multiple rocket launchers (RSZO) BM-21 Grad (M1964 NATO index) – 12 units; howitzers D-30 – 5 units; 82 mm. caliber mortars – 10 units; anti-aircraft mounts ZU-23-2 – 13 units; artillery tractors (AT) – 75 units.

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/16/graphic-warning-video-proof-that-the-us-media-is-lying-the-naf-are-winning-in-ukraine/
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August 17, 2014, 02:11:25 PM
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This is just hilarious. Neo-Nazi coup government turning on one another. Who would have thought?

edit: Note how both the Right Sector guy and the interior ministry politician both accuse of eachother for working for Moscow in some fashion. Man, these people must suffer from mass delusions.

http://rt.com/news/180876-nationalists-threaten-kiev-raid/

The far-right Ukrainian group Right Sector has threatened its armed forces will raid Kiev unless authorities release all its members and end all criminal investigations against them. They accused the police of being “anti-Ukrainian.”

In a statement published on Right Sector’s website, the group’s leader, Dmitro Yarosh, and the commander of the its volunteer battalion, Andrey Stempitsky, accused Deputy Interior Minister General Vladimir Yevdokimov of heading “a criminal police group of separatist stooges and a Moscow puppet.”

Right Sector also accused the Interior Ministry of “unlawful detentions, arrests, beatings, confiscation of arms taken in battle” in moves targeting dozens of fighters of Right Sector’s volunteer battalion, which was formed with the stated goal of fighting armed militias in the east of the country.

The far-right group called on President Petro Poroshenko to fire Yevdokimov and his men from the service and investigate them for “their criminal activities.” As for detained members of Right Sector, all of them should be released and criminal cases launched against them must be closed, Yarosh demanded.

“Unless our demands are met within 48 hours, we will be forced to call off all our units on the front line, start a general mobilization of reserve battalions and launch a march on Kiev to enact a ‘swift reform’ of the Interior Ministry. The columns of the Right Sector will march in full gear,” the statement said.

The movement called on other volunteer paramilitary groups supporting the government’s military campaign in the east of Ukraine to support their demands and oust “the helpers of the terrorists in police uniforms from the Ukrainian land.”
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August 17, 2014, 02:20:35 PM
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Novorissiya military briefing august 17th

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/17/novorossiya-military-briefing-situation-by-august-17-2014/


Right away, allow me to make a reservation. Some of the information has yet to be confirmed. It is provided here for the purpose of presenting a fulsome overview of the situation.
Counter-offensive of the DPR Army

In the evening, the situation with respect to the counter-offensive of the DPR Army began to started to become clear. The strike has been made. However, it did not come from the direction of Ilovaisk. One of the columns is attacking Blagodatnoye from the side of Torez. At the time this was written, there was no information as to who controls the village, but the units of the Junta to the north of Saur-Mogila were cut off in the village of Petrovskoye.

Literally half an hour ago [Note: August 16, 2014, 21:30] the DPR Army announced the taking of the Uspenka border-crossing checkpoint. The second column, which was moving along the border, arrived at this border-crossing checkpoint in the morning and took control of it by the evening. In addition, artillery strikes were conducted on the Junta units in the area of Kuteynikovo. The DPR Army’s saboteur-reconnaissance groups (“SRG”) are active in the area of Starobeshevo.
Southern Cauldron 2.0

Kozhevnya has been taken. In the area of Miusinsk and Krasniy Luch, the units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were partially eliminated and partially taken prisoner. There remain a few isolated pockets of resistance. Given that the DPR Army has commenced its assault, there is nowhere that they can expect help from, and that is why 17 soldiers of the 25th Brigade today crossed the border into the Russian Federation and the DPR Army has been reporting cases of mass surrender by the remaining servicemen of the 25th Brigade.
To the North of Donetsk

This is the only area where the Junta’s offensive has yet to run out of steam. Today there was a strike on Zhdanovka and Nizhnyaya Krynka. Fighting continues in these towns. An attack on Yasinovataya also took place. As yet, there are no results. The morning will show whether or not this is serious and if Gorlovka will be operationally encircled [Note: This danger did not come to pass, Gorlovka remains connected to Donetsk]. Due to lack of troops for an assault on Gorlovka, this offensive appears to be an attempt to distract the forces of the DPR Army from the crumbling southern front.
Counter-offensive in the LPR

The second counter-offensive, to the west and to the north of Lugansk, has been ongoing successfully for the past two days. Yesterday the settlement of Zimgorye and Rodakovo were taken. Today, the LPR Army liberated Sabovka. As a result, the Lutugino grouping of the Junta ended up in operational encirclement. Moreover, it is being squeezed by the LPR Army from the side of Uspenka. Also closer the evening reports were received that the troops of the punitive units were eliminated in the area of Khryashevatoye and that the enemy suffered significant losses in the area of Novosvetlovka. Most likely, by tomorrow the highway to Izvarino will again be free of the Ukrainian forces. Accordingly, a fuller picture of the operational plan of the counter-offensive has emerged – the complete unblocking of Lugansk.
Lugansk

Today there were insignificant battles in the northern suburbs of Lugansk; however, this fighting did not resemble an assault. By the evening, the fighting died down. There are no Ukrainian forces in the city.
Conclusions

The Junta’s offensive has nearly fizzled out. The units that ended up in the new Southern Cauldron are being subjected to fairly powerful pressure. Accordingly, the Militia has sufficient forces to eliminate the enemy units and the rout of the Ukrainian grouping will not turn into a lengthy saga this time around. Moreover, the offensive launched against Amvrosievka is developing successfully. The appearance of unified command can be felt.

This is especially visible in the case of the LPR. The strikes of the militiamen are well conceived and coordinated. As a result, the Junta grouping, which was weakened by the redeployment of a part of the forces to the Donetsk area, is retreating with losses. It is being simultaneously attacked from several directions and clearly lacks the troops to hold the stretched out front line. If the Lutugino grouping is not moved out to the north over the next day or two, it will repeat the fate of the Southern Cauldron, and the northern front of the punitive forces will be forced beyond the line of the Severskiy Donets river due to the lack of reserves (it is precisely from Severskiy Donetsk that the Junta commenced its offensive in the beginning of June).

The number of battle worthy units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that are present at the front has sharply declined. The Junta has been forced to plug holes in the front lines with Territorial Defence Battalions, which by no means can be considered to be battle ready units due to lack of proper training and heavy armaments. At the very least, the Junta’s southern front is floating out of control. The front to the north of Lugansk may be in the same situation next week (if the Junta continues stubbornly to latch on to the city of Lutugino). To the north of Donetsk the situation is complex, but overall controllable.

Note (Gleb Bazov): While this update sounds even more optimistic than the preceding one, this is not the time for rose-coloured glasses. The critical, and I would say – catastrophic, humanitarian situation continues to have a fundamental impact on the situation on the ground, and the remaining operational crises have yet to be resolved. Overall, while cautious optimism is warranted, it would be inappropriate to adopt the approach of the Ukrainian propaganda machine and trumpet victory. Save the champagne for Kiev.
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August 17, 2014, 02:26:15 PM
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Russian hardware spotted approaching and crossing Ukrainian border.

With a bunch of journalists checking the Humanitarian (R)aid Convoy, they are able to spot a lot of Russian hardware approaching the Ukrainian border as well.

Here is an overview of what they see.

All this happens at this crossroad, the exit towards Russian Donetsk and Izvarino border crossing which is in Russian control.



In Google Streetview you can recognize the buildings:



Link to Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/search/Nehoteevka/@48.250676,40.292214,668m/data=!3m1!1e3

This is how they crossed the border the past month, so that's how they will likely do it now too:



     #Russian military hardware near the #Ukraine border and the convoy on Thursday. pic.twitter.com/NWwYR1MfAC
    — Tom Barton (@TomBartonJourno) August 15, 2014


    Can anyone identify these chaps? pic.twitter.com/5cVUN2xqd2
    — Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) August 15, 2014

These are two of the elements of the BUK-system. The TELAR (or 'launcher'; same that shot down MH17) and the LLV ( or 'loader').

    A dozen of these have just passed by us in the direction of the border. Cannot confirm that is where they're heading. pic.twitter.com/XOya5Z9NT4
    — Steve Rosenberg (@BBCSteveR) August 15, 2014

Where else do they go?

    Military transports kept rolling by toward border... pic.twitter.com/VOV2IUudVi
    — Andrew Roth (@ARothNYT) August 14, 2014

That is the BUK command centre.

    Erm ok so this isn't humanitarian aid. Column of over 20 APCs, 10km from the Ukraine border, and heading closer pic.twitter.com/OMvJmHzsx1
    — Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) August 14, 2014


    So @RolandOliphant and I just saw a column of APCs and vehicles with official Russian military plates cross border into Ukraine.
    — Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) August 14, 2014


    .@shaunwalker7 and I just witnessed a not insubstantial column of APCs and trucks slipping across the border into Ukraine.
    — Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 14, 2014


    These might very well be the Russian invaders @shaunwalker7 & @RolandOliphant saw. If not: next batch http://t.co/ingg380877 via @ukr_lito
    — djp3tros (@djp3tros) August 14, 2014


    Didn't even turn off their headlights. Saw Russian military plates on support vehicles, but no markings I could make out on APCs.
    — Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 14, 2014


    Meanwhile, this has appeared in a field outside Donetsk (Russian Donetsk). Didn't notice it yesterday. pic.twitter.com/rgdX03obpt
    — Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 15, 2014


    Help required. Spotted two of these yesterday when the aid convoy arrived in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky (but what is it?) pic.twitter.com/BunnI4YeyF
    — Steve Rosenberg (@BBCSteveR) August 15, 2014

That's the BUK radar

    Estonian Postimees.ee published pictures of #RUS regular army crossing #UKR border CP. http://t.co/VKO27OoIvr pic.twitter.com/Mjsk6YmOxK
    — lennutrajektoor (@lennutrajektoor) August 15, 2014


    #BREAKINGPICTURE of the Russian army convoy that invaded #Ukraine yesterday evening. pic.twitter.com/6YIcsSIxZi
    — ConflictReporter (@MiddleEast_BRK) August 15, 2014


    #BreakingPicture shows Russian ARMY convoy right at the Ukrainian border in #Donetsk(Ru),reported to go in right now. pic.twitter.com/H0TmqR7VPl
    — ConflictReporter (@MiddleEast_BRK) August 15, 2014


    Russian Pantsir-S1 AA unit east of Donetsk, Rostov Oblast on road A-260 close to the airfield. SRC:VK #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/1zrbH3MQh3
    — Jerry Popowicz (@JerryPopowicz) August 14, 2014


    Massive column of APCs flying Russian flags and some with мc - peace keeper - driving past aid convoy and barrelling it toward Donetsk
    — Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 15, 2014


    These guys. Lots of them. pic.twitter.com/XM1QCCpmNQ
    — Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 15, 2014

Meanwhile these fresh units are spotted in Donetsk by a webcam:

    Multiple evidences that 9 Russian tanks headed Donetsk via H21 road. pic.twitter.com/HbvoxSwjGE RT @21brklyn @EastOfBrussels
    — Ruthen (@RutheniaRus) August 14, 2014


    August 15 #Doentsk, #Russian army APCs & SAU Akatsya 152mm self-propelling howitzers. Purest form of an invasion. pic.twitter.com/87gMR6oIvw
    — lennutrajektoor (@lennutrajektoor) August 15, 2014


    Per fresh information the #Russian army column entered #Ukraine last night is heading to #Molodohvardiisk, #Luhansk region.
    — lennutrajektoor (@lennutrajektoor) August 15, 2014


UPDATE 16-8

Russia now has an ENTIRE BUK-system transport to Ukraine:

    After entire BUK system (Launcher, Loader, Radar & Command), now #Russia transports its missiles to(wards) #Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/zAr77bS33y
    — djp3tros (@djp3tros) August 16, 2014


http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.com/2014/08/russian-hardware-spotted-approaching.html?m=1

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August 17, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
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Bus full of neo-nazi Pravii Sektor ukraine troops ambushed by NAF, 10+ KIA, see the results for your self..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J9kqKTQ6u8E
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